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But in order for our"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2864.5699999999997,"endTime":2870.12,"body":"nation to be competitive, we"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2870.12,"endTime":2874.98,"body":"need engineers, and there's a"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2870.12,"endTime":2874.98,"body":"lot of opportunities. And you"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2874.98,"endTime":2878.52,"body":"and I both run businesses. So"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2874.98,"endTime":2878.52,"body":"we've, we've been a benefactor"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2878.52,"endTime":2882.48,"body":"of being able to do engineering,"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2878.52,"endTime":2882.48,"body":"but also run businesses. So I"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2882.48,"endTime":2886.89,"body":"just encourage more students to"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2882.48,"endTime":2886.89,"body":"become to consider engineering"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2886.89,"endTime":2890.43,"body":"as a career. From a financial"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2886.89,"endTime":2890.43,"body":"standpoint, you look at starting"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2890.43,"endTime":2894.5099999999998,"body":"salaries. Right out of"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2890.43,"endTime":2894.5099999999998,"body":"undergraduate school, I would"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2894.5099999999998,"endTime":2898.8599999999997,"body":"argue engineers probably had the"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2894.5099999999998,"endTime":2898.8599999999997,"body":"highest salaries. Now, kids go"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2898.8599999999997,"endTime":2901.38,"body":"to law school, medical school,"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2898.8599999999997,"endTime":2901.38,"body":"but I'm talking about right out"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2901.38,"endTime":2904.65,"body":"of a four year degree, there's"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2901.38,"endTime":2904.65,"body":"probably and if you're a parent,"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2904.65,"endTime":2908.16,"body":"listen, this, there's probably"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2904.65,"endTime":2908.16,"body":"not and better investment in a"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2908.16,"endTime":2910.68,"body":"for education than getting an"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2908.16,"endTime":2910.68,"body":"engineering degree."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2911.12,"endTime":2914.0299999999997,"body":"Well said, All"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2911.12,"endTime":2914.0299999999997,"body":"right. Chris, how can people get"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2914.0299999999997,"endTime":2914.6,"body":"ahold of you?"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2915.7599999999998,"endTime":2917.74,"body":"Well, several"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2915.7599999999998,"endTime":2917.74,"body":"ways. If you're on LinkedIn, you"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2917.74,"endTime":2922.87,"body":"can find me just LinkedIn and"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2917.74,"endTime":2922.87,"body":"I'm at a Houston our website is"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2922.9,"endTime":2927.97,"body":"advintegrity.com and you can see"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2922.9,"endTime":2927.97,"body":"me that way. And then I've got"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2927.97,"endTime":2934.18,"body":"an email which is"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2927.97,"endTime":2934.18,"body":"chris.alexander@advintegrity.com."},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2934.75,"endTime":2937.8399999999997,"body":"If you email me, I can't"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2934.75,"endTime":2937.8399999999997,"body":"guarantee I'll get back to you."},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2937.8399999999997,"endTime":2941.3199999999997,"body":"Aaron knows that. Aaron and I"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2937.8399999999997,"endTime":2941.3199999999997,"body":"probably both get a couple 100"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2941.3199999999997,"endTime":2945.64,"body":"emails a day, but I'll do my"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2941.3199999999997,"endTime":2945.64,"body":"best to respond. But would"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2945.64,"endTime":2948.25,"body":"certainly be glad to entertain"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2945.64,"endTime":2948.25,"body":"any questions that you might"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2948.25,"endTime":2949.39,"body":"have about what we're doing."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2949.73,"endTime":2952.31,"body":"Wonderful. Well,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2949.73,"endTime":2952.31,"body":"Chris, thank you so much. I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2952.31,"endTime":2955.3399999999997,"body":"really deeply appreciate you"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2952.31,"endTime":2955.3399999999997,"body":"spending some time and sharing"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2955.3399999999997,"endTime":2958.16,"body":"your insight and wisdom. Thank"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2955.3399999999997,"endTime":2958.16,"body":"you so much for being on the"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2958.16,"endTime":2958.6099999999997,"body":"show."},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2958.8199999999997,"endTime":2960.74,"body":"You bet Aaron"},{"speaker":"Chris Alexander","startTime":2958.8199999999997,"endTime":2960.74,"body":"thanks for the opportunity."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2964.37,"endTime":2967.8199999999997,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncure,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2964.37,"endTime":2967.8199999999997,"body":"founder of Pipeline Design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2967.8199999999997,"endTime":2970.85,"body":"Engineering. If you liked what"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2967.8199999999997,"endTime":2970.85,"body":"you heard today, please share"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2970.85,"endTime":2974.39,"body":"the episode. 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