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We have a"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2929.62,"endTime":2935.59,"body":"bunch of free blogs. If you want"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2935.59,"endTime":2939.52,"body":"to see what programs we have go"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2935.59,"endTime":2939.52,"body":"ng on. I also do free Zoom co"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2939.97,"endTime":2942.67,"body":"sultations. So there's a button"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2939.97,"endTime":2942.67,"body":"here, you could just click a"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2942.67,"endTime":2946.81,"body":"d contact me. If you want to"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2942.67,"endTime":2946.81,"body":"do that. You can also I am pret"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2946.81,"endTime":2952.27,"body":"y active on LinkedIn. So I am St"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2946.81,"endTime":2952.27,"body":"phanie Slocum, PE. So I have a"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2952.27,"endTime":2954.85,"body":"retty open network. Feel free to"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2952.27,"endTime":2954.85,"body":"connect with me there. And the"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2954.85,"endTime":2958.87,"body":"you'll also see when I posts o"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2954.85,"endTime":2958.87,"body":"various things we're doing o"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2958.87,"endTime":2961.12,"body":"new blogs and all that sort of"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2958.87,"endTime":2961.12,"body":"thing."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2961.9,"endTime":2963.97,"body":"Awesome. Well,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2961.9,"endTime":2963.97,"body":"this has been so interesting,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2963.97,"endTime":2965.89,"body":"Stephanie. Thank you very much"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2963.97,"endTime":2965.89,"body":"for joining me."},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2966.19,"endTime":2967.21,"body":"Thanks for"},{"speaker":"Stephanie Slocum","startTime":2966.19,"endTime":2967.21,"body":"having me, Aaron."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2971.14,"endTime":2974.59,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncure,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2971.14,"endTime":2974.59,"body":"founder of pipeline design and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2974.59,"endTime":2977.62,"body":"engineering. If you liked what"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2974.59,"endTime":2977.62,"body":"you heard today, please share"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2977.62,"endTime":2981.16,"body":"the episode. 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