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Am"},{"speaker":"Rafael Testai","startTime":1151.1100000000001,"endTime":1153.75,"body":"I, am I right on that?"},{"speaker":"Sean Mceligot","startTime":1154.5900000000001,"endTime":1157.6200000000001,"body":"Well, yes,"},{"speaker":"Sean Mceligot","startTime":1154.5900000000001,"endTime":1157.6200000000001,"body":"although as far as knees go"},{"speaker":"Sean Mceligot","startTime":1157.6200000000001,"endTime":1162.66,"body":"there, I think at this point"},{"speaker":"Sean Mceligot","startTime":1157.6200000000001,"endTime":1162.66,"body":"there is a reasonable supply or"},{"speaker":"Sean Mceligot","startTime":1162.66,"endTime":1167.64,"body":"reasonable selection of knees."},{"speaker":"Sean Mceligot","startTime":1162.66,"endTime":1167.64,"body":"And so what where we live, as I"},{"speaker":"Sean Mceligot","startTime":1167.64,"endTime":1171.8700000000001,"body":"said, we do one of a kind. 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