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We're working on a"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2557.5,"endTime":2561.04,"body":"pretty tough problem right now."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2561.16,"endTime":2564.19,"body":"So hearing words of wisdom like"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2561.16,"endTime":2564.19,"body":"that, to me personally, that's,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2564.82,"endTime":2566.74,"body":"that's very helpful. And I'm"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2564.82,"endTime":2566.74,"body":"sure that there are a lot of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2566.74,"endTime":2569.65,"body":"other people out there"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2566.74,"endTime":2569.65,"body":"listening, for whom that is just"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2569.65,"endTime":2574.36,"body":"as helpful. Well, Greg, thank"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2569.65,"endTime":2574.36,"body":"you so much. I really, really"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2574.36,"endTime":2577.54,"body":"appreciate you taking time out"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2574.36,"endTime":2577.54,"body":"of your busy schedule to talk"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2577.54,"endTime":2582.37,"body":"with me and share some of your"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2577.54,"endTime":2582.37,"body":"wisdom and insights. Is there"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2582.37,"endTime":2585.5499999999997,"body":"anything else that we haven't"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2582.37,"endTime":2585.5499999999997,"body":"talked about that you think we"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2585.5499999999997,"endTime":2586.45,"body":"should talk about?"},{"speaker":"Greg Trees","startTime":2587.71,"endTime":2590.32,"body":"What they will say"},{"speaker":"Greg Trees","startTime":2587.71,"endTime":2590.32,"body":"too, is just the failure. 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Oh,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2649.57,"endTime":2653.89,"body":"and I wanted to touch on your"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2653.92,"endTime":2657.7,"body":"comment about theology very"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2653.92,"endTime":2657.7,"body":"briefly. It's, it's super"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2657.7,"endTime":2660.13,"body":"interesting for me to hear"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2657.7,"endTime":2660.13,"body":"people talk about it because I"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2660.13,"endTime":2667.21,"body":"myself am a a man of faith. And"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2660.13,"endTime":2667.21,"body":"I have never tried to facilitate"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2667.21,"endTime":2671.14,"body":"that kind of conversation here"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2667.21,"endTime":2671.14,"body":"on the podcast, but it comes up"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2671.17,"endTime":2674.2,"body":"fairly regularly. You know,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2671.17,"endTime":2674.2,"body":"people just start talking about"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2674.2,"endTime":2679.06,"body":"it. And it's just interesting to"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2674.2,"endTime":2679.06,"body":"me. How organically that that"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2679.06,"endTime":2683.62,"body":"comes up. And anyway, I think"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2679.06,"endTime":2683.62,"body":"it's neat. So thank you for, for"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2683.62,"endTime":2688.87,"body":"sharing that perspective, as"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2683.62,"endTime":2688.87,"body":"well."},{"speaker":"Greg Trees","startTime":2688.96,"endTime":2689.5,"body":"Thanks, Aaron."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2690.19,"endTime":2693.79,"body":"Well, how can how"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2690.19,"endTime":2693.79,"body":"can people get in touch with"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2693.79,"endTime":2694.5099999999998,"body":"you, Greg?"},{"speaker":"Greg Trees","startTime":2695.2999999999997,"endTime":2697.88,"body":"I think LinkedIn"},{"speaker":"Greg Trees","startTime":2695.2999999999997,"endTime":2697.88,"body":"probably one of the easiest ways"},{"speaker":"Greg Trees","startTime":2697.88,"endTime":2700.43,"body":"to get in touch with me, that's"},{"speaker":"Greg Trees","startTime":2697.88,"endTime":2700.43,"body":"out there."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2701.06,"endTime":2703.52,"body":"Excellent. Okay."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2701.06,"endTime":2703.52,"body":"Well, again, thank you so much."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2703.52,"endTime":2708.62,"body":"This has been just fantastic."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2703.52,"endTime":2708.62,"body":"And I can't wait for for all of"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2708.62,"endTime":2711.5,"body":"the listeners to hear everything"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2708.62,"endTime":2711.5,"body":"that we talked about today."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2711.5299999999997,"endTime":2712.25,"body":"Thank you, Greg."},{"speaker":"Greg Trees","startTime":2712.34,"endTime":2713.6,"body":"Thanks, Aaron, I"},{"speaker":"Greg Trees","startTime":2712.34,"endTime":2713.6,"body":"appreciate it."},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2717.23,"endTime":2720.68,"body":"I'm Aaron Moncur,"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2717.23,"endTime":2720.68,"body":"founder of Pipeline Design, and"},{"speaker":"Aaron Moncur","startTime":2720.68,"endTime":2723.71,"body":"Engineering. 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