Donald Trump Is A Pedophile - Allegedly

The walls are closing in on Trump, and the Epstein files are the wrecking ball.  The longer he hides those documents, the deeper he sinks into the muck of child sex abuse allegations.  It's a delicious irony, isn't it? The self-proclaimed anti-establishment champion brought down by his own shadow.  This isn't just a political scandal; it's a Shakespearean tragedy unfolding in real time.

Conservative leaders preaching morality while secretly indulging in depravity?  Shocking? Not really.  It's a pattern as old as time.  These so-called moral guardians are nothing but a pack of wolves in sheep's clothing, their public piety a thin veil over their private perversions.  Their hypocrisy is so blatant it's practically a neon sign flashing:  'LIAR!'  Their outrage over other people's sins is nothing but projection.  They're terrified of being exposed.

Finally, the debate with Mehdi Hassan was a train wreck of epic proportions.  Watching far-right conservatives, some openly embracing Nazi ideology, throw their support behind Trump was like watching democracy die a slow, agonizing death.  The casual disregard for the Constitution, the gleeful embrace of authoritarianism – it was horrifying.  One guy actually said he didn't care about the Constitution if it meant supporting Trump.  The applause that followed was the sound of American ideals crumbling to dust.  This isn't a fringe group; this is the face of modern conservatism.  And it's terrifying.

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[0:00] Music.

[0:05] President Trump has had a bad few weeks and we aren't talking about him cutting

[0:10] Medicaid and defunding NPR. No, it's really bad for Trump because he is collateral damage from the Epstein files. The longer he refuses to release them, the more he will be considered, allegedly, part of Epstein's child sex abuse activities.

[0:28] Who knew that Jeffrey Epstein might be the angel all of us progressives needed to smite Trump down. Then we also discuss Mehdi Hassan being debated by actual Nazis.... You are listening to the Secular Left Podcast.

[1:00] I was checking out my reels the other day on Facebook and came across a video clip from the podcast, The Majority Report with Sam Sater, which I'm a fan and I watch it occasionally, depending on what topics they had. But they were talking about, or the clip that they were showing in this reel, this short clip, was a debate that television commentator Mehdi Hassan, he used to work for MSNBC, he got involved with this jubilee. I don't know what Jubilee is, never heard of it. And they had this topic called Surrounded. And so he was going to debate 20 far-right conservatives, as it was described in the YouTube video. It says, Mehdi Hassan versus 20 far-right conservatives.

[2:04] And so the clip that they were playing was this guy named Conor talking about how he didn't care about the Constitution and if Trump doesn't follow it, he doesn't care about that. It also came out that the guy was like the Nazis and didn't mind being called a fascist, et cetera, et cetera. So let me play this clip from the majority report. I went back to their full video and got this longer clip, but basically they play a little bit of this debate and then Sam makes a comment and then they play some more. But I kind of wanted to include the context. So here it is. So I would say that with Trump being anti-Constitution, I don't really care to be quite frankly. Because in regards.

[3:01] I just want to know that, you know many goes in there and goes like oh well these are going to be conservatives who you know have some type of uh rigid notion of the founding fathers and the constitution and uh patriotism and and whatnot and uh this guy says i don't care if trump follows the constitution and, fully half the room clap and he had that stephen miller joy in his face when they clapped too totally yeah really care to be quite frankly because in regards, in regards to the constitution the constitution is a document that should seek to serve us and when it fails to seek to serve us that can be amended laws can be changed and quite frankly the fact is we're defending things in this country that shouldn't be defended the first amendment should not defend pornography and making children and women be victimized making women and children be victimized as a result of that i think things like blasphemy shouldn't be allowed per the first amendment i think that quite frankly there are a lot of legal processes, wait a second blasphemy this is funny and now we're gonna find out that this guy is a uh hardcore uh catholic god wearing a bra i just broke the law well what what is it what did you What did he say? He said God wearing a bra.

[4:29] Blasphemy. Knock him up. Add people to fully enact their will in this country in the name of the Constitution or following the Constitution. So quite frankly, if Trump is anti-Constitution, good. I think he should go further. So this is wonderfully revealing of the modern conservative mindset, so I appreciate you spelling it out so openly. Just checking, do you support the Second Amendment? I do. Okay. Surprise. I was shocked to hear that.

[4:55] I'm saying that Donald Trump is defying the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, the Fourteenth Amendment. He's thinking of defying the Twelfth and Twenty-Second Amendments. You're saying you don't care about the Constitution, but actually you do because you quite like the Second Amendment. You just don't like the bits that you disagree with. Can I just be clear on that? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. I'm more than willing to amend it and include the Second Amendment. Whenever it's in your favor? Yeah, absolutely. So can Democrats do the same when they're in office? No, absolutely not. So you don't believe in democracy? No, I don't. Absolutely not. What do you believe in? Autocracy. by who honestly quite frankly anyone who is in line with catholic teaching there you go trump is not catholic positive so i went looking for yeah and so i just.

[5:36] Went looking for like a write-up uh some something um article that had been written about it and i found it on the rap and i'll have a link to this article in the show notes and the title of the article in The Wrap was Mehdi Hassan baffled while debating far-right conservative who admits he's a fascist. And then the subtitle was, the only good thing about this fascist moment we're in is that you guys are so open about it, the Zato founder observes. What we heard in the clip that I just played, it says, the guy, Connors, says, quite frankly, if Trump is anti-Constitution, good, and I think he should go further. Hassan asked his debate opponent if Democrats can change or ignore parts of the Constitution when they're in office. Connors says, absolutely not. Repeating the same phrase when he was then asked if he believes in democracy. And he says, what do you believe in? Hassan asked, to which the other man responded, autocracy. So then later on, and I got a link to the full video of this so-called debate, if you want to watch the whole thing.

[6:43] I couldn't watch the whole thing. But the rap article says, things went completely off the rails when Conor began to quote the writings of German political theorist and Nazi party member Carl Schmitt, whom he called awesome and super cool, which prompted Hassan to ask, are you a fan of the Nazis? And frankly, Conor says, I frankly don't care about being called a Nazi at all. When Hassan then asked if he condemned the Nazis' persecution of the Jews, Conor responded, I think there are, there was a little bit of persecution and stuff like that, which is bad.

[7:19] And then hearing enough, Hassan remarked, we may have to rename the show because you're a little bit more than a far-right Republican. Smirking, Conor asked, hey, what can I say? I think you can say I'm a fascist. Hassan countered to which his debate opponent confirmed with a laugh, yeah, I am. As others in the audience began to clap, Hassan noted, I'm just checking who's clapping just to get my set of where everyone is on this because you know that millions of people are going to be watching this on YouTube and checking out who the fascists than the Nazis are. One of the other things that was in the clip, the majority report clip, if you noticed, he said about, Hassan was asking about changing the Constitution or how to get to it to be an autocracy. And Conor was talking about we and the people and we would vote. And he's like, what? So you believe in democracy? Well, to get to autocracy. Yeah.

[8:18] See, and that's the standard fare for some of these so-called far-right Republicans. They talk about law and order. That's why I kind of want to bring this up. You know, they demand law and order from everybody else but themselves. When that Eric Garner was murdered by the cops for illegally selling loose cigarettes, people always made the comment, well, he should have submitted to the cops. He should have stopped resisting arrest. Black Lives Matter protests in Washington, D.C., when people were getting arrested, they were like, well, they shouldn't be burning down police stations or setting fires or things like that. But of course, when the January 6th insurrectionists tried to take over the Capitol building, they were just expressing a political opinion.

[9:11] That's how the conservatives go. And this guy, this Conor guy, yeah, he's a fascist. And all these people have been indoctrinated. And as the majority report people were talking about, Nick Fuentes is one. Joe Rogan's another one. And some other, there's a lot of far right podcasters and bloggers out there that these young people listen to and they don't see the problem inherent with believing this stuff because they don't have a context to it. They don't have somebody saying, you know, this is stupid. You shouldn't believe this stuff because it's stupid. It's like when Hassan asked that guy about the Holocaust. He's like, well, yeah, there were some problems with it, you know, a little bit. No, there wasn't just a little bit of problems. You know, six million people were murdered by a government, by a fascist government.

[10:10] And so basically, I just wanted to bring this out and talk about this thing. And now, to be clear, this is probably they found the most extreme people they could find. I'm not saying that this is typical. The Conners of this group are typical people that you find out in the real world. But a lot of their views are similar. They might not be outright Nazi lovers, but, you know, they do that, you know, law and order crap for everyone else but them, like the Epstein files, you know, they don't want pedophiles.

[10:54] You know, they are all against pedophiles, but they go out of their way to try to protect them when they're Republican or conservative or wealthy. And I think it's just a shame that that has to happen in this country. And like Hassan said, he needed to know who the Nazis were in the room. So and and as a postscript to this, that guy, Connor, that got all that play in that video, he lost his job, supposedly. He he went on on social media and claimed that he lost his job because he appeared in that. That's probably why he was using a pseudonym online and he should have stuck with his pseudonym. But he was separated from his employment and he went to one of these right wing GoFundMe type sites. And I guess I saw a report that he's raised almost $30,000 for his bailout since he doesn't have any money. I would find it hard to believe that he was making more than $30,000 at his job. You know, people like, I know people like that guy. And I have a feeling he's probably delivering pizzas for minimum wage somewhere.

[12:18] That's how it usually goes. These guys think that they're so smart and they're not.

[12:23] And that's what we have to put up with this country is these hypocrites that think that law and order is for everybody else but for them.

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[13:03] Okay, so everybody who is listening to this episode should know who Jeffrey Epstein is. Been playing a large part in the news recently, again. Jeffrey Epstein was a money guy, a Wall Street money guy, and a convicted child sex offender. He was also charged with sex trafficking. And that is what he was under indictment for in August of 2019, when he was found dead in his jail cell in New York City. And ever since then, he has loomed large, a large cloud over President Trump. Why? Because they were best buddies for many years. And we all know Trump's kind of a creepy guy when it comes to younger women. I mean, they even had him in an interview talking about how if his daughter wasn't his daughter, he'd want to date her. That sort of thing, that creepy stuff. So it's not impossible to imagine that Trump and Epstein were buddies because they shared so much in common, not so much the money part, but the fact that they both love young women.

[14:31] The problem was Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking, trafficking people, moving them between countries and procuring women who were definitely under age. And he had already been convicted of it in a state court. And the feds got involved in 2019. But President Trump, during the campaign, pretty much said that the Epstein files, the investigative files, should be released. And the reason why it was that whole part of that going after Hunter Biden type salaciousness that the Republican Party likes to do is basically they assumed, especially Trump assumed, that the Epstein files contained a number of names, mostly Democratic names, that they could use to smear people. If those records were ever released. So he went through the whole entire campaign talking about it.

[15:41] And so then we cut forward to February of this year when Pam Bondi brought some conservative and MAGA influencers and social media people into the White House and gave them binders. And it said, Epstein Files, Phase 1, or something like that. But that's what they claimed, that it was the start of the release of the Epstein files.

[16:09] Then we cut forward to, I believe it was June, and the Department of Justice released a statement saying that the Epstein files were not going to be released because there was no list, and they just decided that there was nothing there. And of course, the MAGA people had a meltdown because Trump had been playing this up for a couple of years and it looked like that they were going to release it. And so they'd be able to have their dream of knowing that all these Democrats were pedophiles, just like that they believe from QAnon and the Pizzagate stuff. And and this was their holy grail. And they were going to be saved. Thank you, Donald Trump. And then they didn't release them. So they had a meltdown. And Trump has been fighting it now for weeks. And the reason why he's fighting it is because he doesn't like being wrong. He refuses to admit that he's wrong. And so he's been throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks.

[17:14] First, he was saying that there was no list That he didn't know Epstein, which is false And then they were talking about how the Epstein files were created by Obama and Comey when they were actually created when Epstein was arrested in 2019 during Trump's term. The guy in Palm Beach that gave Jeffrey Epstein a sweetheart plea bargain, Acosta, became Trump's labor secretary in his first term, and he ended up having to resign when this issue blew up in 2019.

[18:00] And so, you know, this has been going on now for four or five years where this Jeffrey Epstein stuff is. And the thing is, the reason why it's such a big deal, at least in the media, is because this affects the elite class, the elites, the Harvard and Yale people, the people that run the government, the corporation people. I mean, having an association with Jeffrey Epstein was like poison for some people. Billionaire Leslie Wexner employed Jeffrey Epstein to be his financial advisor and even gave him power of attorney for several years. Jeffrey Epstein even had a house on the Wexner compound in New Albany outside of Columbus. The backlash from knowing and employing Jeffrey Epstein was so severe for Wexner that he ended up having to retire from his company. They kind of forced him out.

[19:07] And uh who else who else lost big on that uh no one Epstein oh uh Alan Dershowitz the criminal defense attorney he is so intertwined with with Epstein he's the one that worked out the sweetheart plea bargain and so his name is mud currently Bill Gates possibly got got a divorce Lost his marriage because he associated with Jeffrey Epstein, even after Epstein had been convicted and served time for prostitution, soliciting prostitution.

[19:46] You know, he still he met Epstein in 2011 after he had already served his time. So that that's part of the news. And that's not proven. But more than likely, that's what happened, that he got involved with the shenanigans with Jeffrey Epstein and eventually cost him his marriage. But anyway, it's so the the the splash zone has now included Trump because we have many pictures and videos and interviews, how they were best buds and they hung out together for many, many years.

[20:24] And then of course Trump is saying that he didn't know that this guy was a pedophile I highly suspect I highly doubt that he did not know I highly doubt that many of his these powerful people did not know the FBI concluded in 2019 that Epstein had surveillance cameras over all his properties and collected blackmail information on people, And so that's why they think that he was able to ingratiate himself into social society because he didn't have any roots in that world. He started out as a school teacher for a private school, but he didn't go to college, but he's very smart. And then he moved into the stock market area, and that's where he made a lot of money. He worked for Bear Stearns and things like that. And so that's how he met these powerful people.

[21:26] And so much of the money that he made was in managing fortunes for these people that he knew. And like I said, you know, Trump is so scared that he is mentioned in these files, which he probably is more than likely. He's mentioned in these files and obviously something was found that he didn't want out that they decided that now these files can't be released.

[21:54] So it's kind of funny to watch him it kind of reminded me of that scene in the Kill Bill movie I can't remember it might have been volume 2 when the bride meets up with the, Daryl Hannah character who has the eye patch who had lost the eye and they meet in that trailer in the desert, and the bride fights her and takes her other eye her good eye and Daryl Hannah's character starts thrashing around on the floor. That's Donald Trump and the Epstein files. The Epstein files took his other eye and he's thrashing around on the floor because he can't see. And I really think that that is probably part of the problem. And it could be that it is true that he didn't do any of the child abuse that Epstein was convicted of. I doubt that that's the case. I bet you that Epstein gave him some women, and he did what he creepily does with women, as we found out from Stormy Daniels, and he probably didn't even ask what their ages were, and they were probably under 18.

[23:07] Because that's how Epstein rolled.

[23:11] Oh, another person that was mentioned that was piled around with Epstein quite a bit was Bill Clinton. But, of course, we know about Bill Clinton and his sexual exploits, as it were. We don't know if he was also involved with that. But anyway, so basically, Epstein, he was involved with all these rich people, rich, powerful people, probably had blackmail information on them, probably for many of the men that he dealt with, and most of them were men. And he probably procured underage women for them and filmed them probably in various states. And basically, he was covering his behind and making sure that he stayed in his little station. That explains the Sweetheart prosecution deal in 2007, where he just got 13 months for child abuse and or for solicitation of prostitution. And he had work release. They allowed him to have work release. They never allow sex offenders to have work release. He was able to get out of jail for 12 hours a day. And then it was 2019 when the FBI went after him. And again, this was Trump's FBI at the time. His first term prosecuted him. The Department of Justice in 2019 was prosecuting Epstein.

[24:40] The New York office was prosecuting Epstein when he ended up supposedly committing suicide in his jail cell.

[24:49] But the reason why I'm bringing all this up and talking about it, and I know people are probably sick of hearing about it, is because of the hypocrisy, the utter hypocrisy. I just want to play this clip from MSNBC just to give an example. The first voice that you hear is going to be Ted Lieu.

[25:11] He's a Democrat from California talking about the Epstein files. And then the reporter says something and then Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, talks about it. And I want to play that. They were actually ending this week early because they're afraid to cast votes on the Jeffrey Epstein issue. We should release the Epstein files. Johnson slamming it as political games. The Democrats are trying to play gotcha politics right now. Has anyone forgotten? They had all these files the entire time. They sat on everything Epstein-related for four long years while President Biden was in office.

[25:47] Okay. So what Mike Johnson is saying, Speaker Johnson is saying, is that the Democrats had these files during the Biden administration. Why didn't they release them then? Well, that is one of the things that Trump talked about. That's why during the campaign he was demanding that these files be released, because again, Johnson is on this talking point that the files must be about Democrats, that there can't be any Republicans in that file. And so that's why the Democrats didn't release it. It was to protect the pedophiles in the Democratic Party. So you could take that argument that he just made and inferred and turn it around on Trump. Why doesn't Trump release it? Well, obviously, he must be protecting pedophiles in the Republican Party and himself.

[26:42] And that's what they do. That's what, you know, Mike Johnson has no room to talk about morality. He's the one that has him and his son monitor each other's porn consumption or whatever jazz that was. He's the one that worked for Alliance Defending Freedom, which is a Christian nationalist group that does church and state issues. You know, he's the one that allowed the prayer, the Bible study where the Dollinger, Pastor Dollinger said that Jesus didn't say that you should help poor people or the Bible doesn't say you should help poor people. This is Mike Johnson. This is Speaker Johnson, Mr. Christian. He wears his Christianity on his sleeve. So he has no room to talk about morality when he's protecting pedophiles. And that is, short of murder, I think murder is probably the worst crime somebody can commit.

[27:49] The second worst crime, or it might even be the same, is child sex abuse. That's why it bothers me that there's so many Catholic priests that haven't been prosecuted. The Houston Chronicle had a piece about there was over 300 members of the ministry in the Southern Baptist Conference that had been charged or convicted of child abuse or child sex crimes.

[28:22] How many priests have there been worldwide that have not been prosecuted at some point or been accused of child sex abuse? And not to mention that there was a recent report that Trump's Department of Justice is weighing in on a lawsuit in Washington state where the Catholic Church is suing the state over a law that requires priests to be reporters of abuse.

[28:54] Teachers and doctors and law enforcement and people like that are required to report suspected child abuse. And they passed this law to apply to priests. And the Catholic Church is fighting it for religious freedom reasons. And the Trump Department of Justice is on their side of protecting pedophiles i could i could almost tell you point blank that there are no trans kids there are no drag queens and there are no no uh atheists well i can't say that but there's no trans kids and there's no drag queens in the epstein files pretty much i could probably much to tell you. Now, the reason why I hedged on the atheist part is because I forgot that one of the people that worked with Epstein, who's been photographed with Epstein, that considered him a friend, is Steven Pinker, who is one of the people in the free thought community that I personally don't like anymore because, not just because of that, but because he's anti-trans and stuff like that. So, but he paled around with Epstein. So I can't say atheists might not be in there. But anyway...

[30:18] So here are these holy rollers, these people that think that they know more than you do about morality, and they're the ones that are always getting in trouble for this shit. They're the ones that are the adulterers. They're the ones that are the child sex traffickers. They are the sex abusers.

[30:38] They try to ban abortion because they want to control women. And that's the thing. Every time there's somebody that is a holy roller that comes in, it's like Marjorie Taylor Greene talks about cloud seeding. Well, she cheated on her husband, you know, Boebert, the lady and congresswoman in Colorado. She was caught masturbating her boyfriend during a theater performance. You know, all these people, when people publicly wear their religion on their sleeve, you can know that there's something in their closet that they don't want you to know about. I can almost guarantee you that that is the case. And I can almost guarantee you that Donald Trump benefited from his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein by getting women to have sex with. Now, the question becomes if he knew that they were underage or not. I'm going to say he probably did because he has said that he liked younger women. You know, all his past wives have been younger than the previous one. And like I said, there was that creepy thing that he said about his daughter years ago.

[32:00] So I think it's probable that Trump benefited from the procurement of those underage girls, that he knew they were underage, that he had sex with them, and that he just assumed that his shit didn't stink. And that's why he demanded that the Epstein files be released, because he thought it only probably contained Democrats, because he thought, since it was his Department of Justice during his first term, that that's what they put in it. And then I think he found out that that's not the case. So that's why he's throwing crap on the wall. That's why he's claiming that it was written by Obama, that Obama should be in jail for treason. And it just goes on and on and on. And I did not have on my big bingo card that a convicted child sex offender would be the Achilles heel of Donald J. Trump.

[33:07] That his precalition or his proclivity for pedophilia would be the thing that might take him down. I did not have that on my bingo card. So it's going to be interesting. But like I said, the thing that I hate the most are hypocrites.

[33:30] And the Christian right, the Christian nationalists like Speaker Johnson are at the top of that list.

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