Gear up for an adrenaline-pumping ride through the latest Pardon The Disruption podcast, where we've assembled an all-star lineup of thought leaders who aren't afraid to tackle the real grit of real estate and business leadership. With host, Matthew Potter, and the ever-insightful RJ Bates III, Leon Barnes, Chris Jefferson, and Steve Trang. They're here to share their hard-won wisdom from the front lines of entrepreneurship, and you won't want to miss a second of their tactical advice and the banter that only this crew can deliver.
Feel the heat as we dissect the Washington Commanders' playbook, drawing parallels between the gridiron and the boardroom. We're not holding back as we scrutinize their moves and debate the power play of bringing in seasoned talent to reinvigorate a team. And for those scaling the heights of business, we offer strategies on how to blend quick decision-making with smart hiring practices, all while nurturing the invaluable networks that propel us forward. It's an episode where sports insights and business acumen collide, offering you a fresh perspective on leadership and team dynamics.
The real estate arena takes center stage as we navigate the ethical minefield of public criticism, with our very own CJ championing a positive spin on the toughest debates. Meanwhile, Steve admits to enjoying the spectacle, though from a safer distance. And as we pay homage to coaching legend Nick Saban, we peel back the layers on what makes an exceptional leader tick. Whether it's in the relentless pursuit of talent or the masterful orchestration of a team, this episode unpacks the intricate dance between individual brilliance and the guiding hand of strategic management. So buckle up for insights that go well beyond the surface, delivered by a panel that knows how to score big in the game of life.
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Gear up for an adrenaline-pumping ride through the latest Pardon The Disruption podcast, where we've assembled an all-star lineup of thought leaders who aren't afraid to tackle the real grit of real estate and business leadership. With host, Matthew Potter, and the ever-insightful RJ Bates III, Leon Barnes, Chris Jefferson, and Steve Trang. They're here to share their hard-won wisdom from the front lines of entrepreneurship, and you won't want to miss a second of their tactical advice and the banter that only this crew can deliver.
Feel the heat as we dissect the Washington Commanders' playbook, drawing parallels between the gridiron and the boardroom. We're not holding back as we scrutinize their moves and debate the power play of bringing in seasoned talent to reinvigorate a team. And for those scaling the heights of business, we offer strategies on how to blend quick decision-making with smart hiring practices, all while nurturing the invaluable networks that propel us forward. It's an episode where sports insights and business acumen collide, offering you a fresh perspective on leadership and team dynamics.
The real estate arena takes center stage as we navigate the ethical minefield of public criticism, with our very own CJ championing a positive spin on the toughest debates. Meanwhile, Steve admits to enjoying the spectacle, though from a safer distance. And as we pay homage to coaching legend Nick Saban, we peel back the layers on what makes an exceptional leader tick. Whether it's in the relentless pursuit of talent or the masterful orchestration of a team, this episode unpacks the intricate dance between individual brilliance and the guiding hand of strategic management. So buckle up for insights that go well beyond the surface, delivered by a panel that knows how to score big in the game of life.
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What is going on everyone? Great to have you on this week's part in the disruption. I am your host, matthew Potter, and we are gonna go ahead and get into it real quick. Just want to give you a breakdown of how we do things around here. Right, here are our rules. We have five questions, ranging from real estate, business leadership, viral video, sports and trending. Each person will get 60 seconds and then we'll argue afterwards for two minutes. Points are awarded to the panelists based on arguments and rebuttals, and we are doing something different this week. They've given me the power. You will get in question points. Here's your points and here's taking your points away. That's gonna apply to RJ and Steve. Leon and CJ are just gonna run away with it. This week we're gonna get into intros, starting the last week's champion coming to us from Dallas, fort Worth. We have RJ Bates, the third. Introduce yourself.
Speaker 2:What's up everybody. Rj Bates, the third here, I'm gonna start a new segment. On my intros I'm just gonna read the top five comments left on Steve's short from the. Here's my top five. Say you're a Chinese spy without saying it, so the communist wants us to pay them. Number three look a Chinese communist telling what Americans can own and can't own. Number four the ignorance here makes me cringe. And number five Someone's being a little snowflake. Steve train.
Speaker 1:Point to RJ for the great, all right. Next up, do not forget, we have Leon G barns. Do not forget the G. Go ahead and introduce yourself collective genius. Go ahead, boss.
Speaker 3:What's up everyone? It's today, unfortunately, g no longer stands for growth, it stands for gone he gone. All the hair on my face, all seven of them are gone. Just could not stand it anymore, and Every day that I looked in the mirror I started looking more and more like RJ Bates. And if you start looking like RJ, you gotta get.
Speaker 1:The G this week actually stood for get on the call. Leon was the last one to show up.
Speaker 4:That's why we started slightly late.
Speaker 1:Alright. Next up coming to us from Richmond, va, we have Chris Jefferson CJ, the. You introduce yourself, boss.
Speaker 5:Chris Jefferson, the you all right. Richmond, va. It's always good to be here. I Don't I'm not sure the vibes I'm getting from RJ today. I'm not sure what's going on with this. Hat Potter, it's good to see you. My skin, steve, what's up, and young Leo G man, it's good to see you as well, man alright.
Speaker 1:Last, certainly not least, we have mr Disruptor himself, steve Trang. Say hi to the people.
Speaker 7:So you know I'm glad we have a full roster here. You know, CJ saw the questions was about leadership, so he tried to duck it today and the reason why we're late we apologize. The reason why we're late is because Leon showed up late and his penalty for being late today he's gonna go through RJ's 36 points of how to be productive. So check that out, as it's a video that's gone viral because no one knows how it takes 36 steps to be productive.
Speaker 3:The good news is, I'll be. I'll get 36 points today to make up for that. How about that?
Speaker 1:That there we go. All right, we're gonna go ahead and get into it with question number one. Earlier this week, tiger Woods and Nike announced the end of their partnership. What is the longest real estate relationship you were or are involved in? Start us off, rj.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So Cassie, my partner, we are Breaking into our 14th year of being business partners, or this is our ninth year of doing nothing but real estate. It's it's been a great, just opportunity to teach other people how to run a successful partnership. You know, cassie and I, we never Question each other. We there's never a lack of trust. We show up every single day, and I think the thing that has made our partnership so successful has been the fact that our work ethics are aligned and our goals are aligned, and Because of that it's it's crazy to think about 14 years, but that's that's definitely the longest partnership.
Speaker 1:There we go, 14 years. Congratulations. That's a. That's a solid partnership right there. All right, leon, what about you? Longest relationship in this real estate business.
Speaker 3:Well, I love this question because if you've watched this show before, you know I'm all about community and relationships and I feel like, as new investors or if you're an investor, that's you know you haven't had a lot of long-term relationships.
Speaker 3:I think that something that you should be working on. I think it's super important to grow your business. For me, there are two that came to mind immediately. I've been with the same title company for 10 years and I know that that isn't always a great thing, but the relationship that I have with my title company has been one that I feel like has helped me in so many situations Turn, you know, harry, situations into gold. I think one other relationships are actually a couple different contracting crews for the fix and flips that I do, as well as the birth strategy that I do. It says a lot about those contractors, says a lot about our business that we've had contractors that have been working with us for 10 years, consistently for those 10 years, and they haven't had to go look for work and I haven't had to worry at night if those products are getting done or not.
Speaker 1:There we go. Consistent Consistency from from Leon over there. We like it All right, cj. What about you?
Speaker 5:Yeah, I've got a two that come to mind initially because I just saw the question for the first time I've got. I've got two lenders that I worked with one that gave me my first loan on my first ever flip Back in 2010 and I actually didn't have enough money for the $20,000 down payment, so I borrowed the 20,000 from another lender as a secondary source of funds on that deal and I've been so I was able to do the deal 100% financing for my first deal. But I've been working with these guys for almost 14 years now or 14 years now and that's been really cool. We've had some upswing, some downswing, some deals go left, some deals go right and those relationships have been really critical. I can think of moments where, like the guy who lent me the 20 grand, being in a jam in between draws, not sure what to do, got to pay my guys on a Friday and being able to call them, get a wire the same day to be able to float. So I really value both those relationships.
Speaker 1:What those are? Solid, solid relationships in this business. All right, steve, what about you? Longest relationship, start us off.
Speaker 7:So before I get into it, I just want to give a shout out to Cassie. You know, like to be able to carry a glorified shift manager for 14 years. Like that's a hell of a freaking job, like that's. She should get her own points on this show for that. So for mine, I don't know if I want to admit it like I don't know if I want to disclose this because it's kind of uncomfortable but my longest relationship in real estate it's not the short sale that we're so processing from 15 years ago, but it's the guy that helped me become the short sale expert. So you know, matthew and I connected back in 08 or 09 Well, when I was the quote unquote short sale expert and he would do all the dirty work behind the scenes. So I've been working with Matt for far too long. We've done way too many different types of transactions together. He was licensed with a brokerage for some time. Now he's leading our real estate family tree. So that's for better, for worse. That's my longest standing real estate relationship 16 years, that's right.
Speaker 3:See the importance, boys and girls, of relationships. You too can host a show if you've known someone like Steve long enough.
Speaker 1:Look at that Yo.
Speaker 7:The only qualification.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so Steve was a short sale expert. Potter just did what you said. You're saying Now he's a short sale expert. What is Steve? What does Lyske and Steve do?
Speaker 7:I go to the customers and I take it to the engineers and I talk to the engineers and bring them back to the concerns. It's how you know buying NFTs. I'm a goddamn people person.
Speaker 5:I'm wrong with you.
Speaker 2:Leon, I have to say you brought up title company and the first ever deal that Cassie and I did back in 2014 was with the title company we still use here at DFW and that relationship was so vitally important for us in our first two years because the education that we got was not solid, we weren't really educated Yep, and she helped teach us so much that escrow officer at that title company. We have followed her through multiple different title companies, eventually, inevitably leading to her starting her own title company.
Speaker 3:Great relationship and it's definitely moved the needle for us in our wholesale journey when I thought about this question and thought who has helped me the most over the last 10 years, whenever I would ask a question, wouldn't tell me no, would just say, well, we've never done that before, but let's see if it's possible. That's the type of response that if you're not working with a title company like that and let's face it, all title companies are not created equal all investors are not created equal either. I realize that. But at the same time, there are title companies that are investor friendly, more so than others, and so when you find one of those, hold on to it, build relationships. I tell you how many relationships I have and how many deals we've closed because that title company, including private money investors that have been referred to us, because we closed so many deals at that title company.
Speaker 3:Yeah and one of the fastest ways.
Speaker 7:Oh, real quick. One of the fastest ways to end a relationship Is for a title person to tell us no, hey, can we do this? No, alright, thanks, you are absolutely useless, I will find someone else.
Speaker 5:Yeah, just a surgeon general's warning man. If you're RJ Bates, you know, if you find yourself in this position where you've got a great title representative that, for whatever reason, has to keep bouncing title company to title company, guys, be a good person, a good human being to help them start a title company and use your marketing prowess alright to help them grow their business to have a sustainable place. Alright, there we go. Introduce me to your title lady, on email, by the way.
Speaker 2:Charge of title baby, I'm focused on my head trying concept over here. I don't want to run a title company.
Speaker 3:You know we said that relationships are important, but Steve made a great point there. I'll give him actually that on this particular question and answer If you do have a title company that you've been working with and you feel like you have a great relationship and you're getting more knows lately than you are getting yeses, it's probably time to start looking for another one.
Speaker 1:Big facts. Alright, that was a great first question there. I like that. Look, everybody had a great answer. Steve's getting home field advantage on this one. I mean, I've had to put up with him for 16 years. Rj, put your hands down. Point to Steve on that round. Alright, we're going to get into question number two. Bob Myers, former GM of the Warriors, is one of two outside executives being brought in to help the Washington commanders hire a new coach as a real estate investor. Have you ever brought in a CEO or executive from another industry to help you with big business or hiring? Start us off, steve.
Speaker 7:I've done accountants times. The most recent one was we finally relented and went outside third party for recruiter and since we went third party for recruiter, we've been getting rock star applicants after rocks are applicants, so that's been absolutely huge. And in last week we were talking about you know the position. You would look for a portal. We're talking about COO's and I kind of share. I am actively looking to hire a COO that's been involved in a nine figure exit, because I think that's what it's going to take to get our company to the land where we want to be. So we are. It's really applicable for me today. So yes, absolutely, and I would say multiple times those are just two that are happening right now.
Speaker 1:There we go. Okay, steve, trying to get the point board to work over here. Maybe we can start with that before the hires, just throwing it out there. Alright, rj, what about you?
Speaker 2:I have not hired someone to come in and help make big business decisions or hiring decisions. I have consulted people that I have relationships with, friendships with. But, more importantly, the first part of this question is man CJ, dude, your football team sucks so bad. That's just going out and they're trying to find any organization that has any sort of potential, Can you?
Speaker 5:please help us.
Speaker 2:Man. Just it's a terrible name, terrible organization, terrible stadium, terrible fans, terrible colors. I don't think there's a worse organization than the Washington commander. So if that's what they're doing, then no, I'm not ever going to follow up with what the Washington commanders do.
Speaker 1:RJ is absolutely brutal. We love it All. Right, Leon, what about you? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3:Well, I actually was going to say congrats to CJ because his organization is finally starting to understand that maybe they don't have the smartest people in-house and they need to go outside.
Speaker 3:This is not unprecedented. This happened in other industries, where baseball and other industries started bringing people from the outside to give them different perspective, and I think it's super important for us as real estate investors to make sure that we're doing the same thing. I'm very thankful that a lot of you know that when I started in this industry, I started out as a COO, running a day-to-day operations for Fix and Flip Company, and one of the things that I forced myself to do out of the gates is make sure that I was around other business owners and networking. So I consistently networked with other business owners and, turns out, all of us entrepreneurs have very. So, like RJ, I didn't necessarily hire a lot of them, but I consulted on a weekly basis and went to their offices and talked to them about hiring decisions and marketing things that were working for them. So it is crucial networking again, relationships super important, and don't underestimate the power of going outside of your own industry.
Speaker 1:There you go. All right, CJ, we're interested to hear what you have to say about your team and strategy.
Speaker 5:Man take a shot when I got on Burgundy team colors.
Speaker 6:It's kind of crazy, bro.
Speaker 5:As a former season ticket holder, you know I feel good about this. I really do. I don't feel good enough to renew my tickets. You know, shout out to the org All right, I don't feel that great yet, but I think this is good, right, I think going out and get outside advisement, I think, makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 5:I had some struggles in 2017 that I talk about a lot.
Speaker 5:I didn't hire somebody to work for me, but I definitely consulted on a Harvard educated executive had to come in, and they did really transformative work in my business, and two of the things that they helped me with the most was at least in my business life, right, not my personal life, I guess, but they helped me with speed of making decisions, right. So you know, one thing that he said to me one time was you should be able to make any educated, critical decision in 60 seconds or less, right, you got to be able to follow your gut instinct, follow that voice from God, whatever that might be. And then the other thing that's really, really helped me over the years is you have to look at business in simple ways, right, I think a lot of us we get stuck trying to be. You know, look at things within whatever box we think we need to look at things in. Sometimes you got to take a step out of that look at things in a more simplistic way, and that's been really helpful.
Speaker 7:You're not out to crest for being able to make it this far and making decisions in 60 seconds or less. I thought it would be like the Washington commanders. I think that's how they made their decisions.
Speaker 5:I wasn't before that, but I've tried to work on it. I'm not perfect at that, though.
Speaker 7:I was going to say if you're making all your decisions in 60 seconds or less, man, that's like kudos to you.
Speaker 1:There are some decisions that are like two seconds. There are some decisions that are like bro, he's done by 9am for a day's worth of work. Come on now. There you go.
Speaker 3:I feel really good. Bob Myers is really smart. I feel really good about him helping the commanders. One thing I would suggest is go ahead and since they're, you know, right there in the DC area, just go and send him over to the wizards as well to figure out that.
Speaker 5:That hot. I'm not a wizards fan man. They could use the hope man, the wizards and the commanders.
Speaker 3:My goodness, dumpster fires all over the DC area.
Speaker 7:My hope, my hope for you, cj, is Bob Myers comes in and he helps recruit Dremon to your team. The commanders I think that's the missing piece.
Speaker 5:Yeah yeah, put a helmet on Dremon and let him tackle somebody. It might be a better sport. Well, it might be better sport.
Speaker 3:I know you went hard at the commanders, but man, back in the day, in the 80s and 90s, that's a proud franchise and so if you're going to really talk about the worst franchises, I wouldn't put Washington up there. Now the Jets, on the other hand, that's a different story. I would say that's probably one of the worst ran organizations.
Speaker 7:I nominate, I nominate, I nominate Arizona Cardinals. So, going into bringing in a person that understands building a roster though, like again, I'm just going back to the fact that the recruiter we brought in, she worked, she was a recruiter for Facebook and she was a recruiter for Google right and like, she knows what it takes, and I've been trying to do this on my own do it internally, and it's just a light and day difference when you have someone that has done it at a high level for a long time. It makes it's has profound impact, and I think it's really smart on the commanders to bring in Bob Myers to help them with the hiring decision.
Speaker 2:What I really want to know is is I've known CJ now through our time on pardon the disruption as, like a realist, someone that speaks facts, he always wants to point back to the facts and then when he talks about his football team, it's with this just dumb foundingly optimism where he's like I feel really good about this decision. How often do you feel really good about these decisions that your team's making there, CJ?
Speaker 5:You know what I love about that question, rj, as you, as you asked it, you know I reflected on the times that I scrolled IG and in Facebook and I see you in hockey gear, right, and I say to myself I'm like this dude, he still thinks he's going pro, he still thinks this is going to work out. You know so and so you know from, from, you know, one one optimist to another man, like you know, you know, the vibes man. You see what I got going on. We got to be hopeful.
Speaker 3:Just just don't forget, rj, that you know fan is short for fanatic. No other choice but to be optimistic.
Speaker 5:Yeah, bro, we got the second pig man. What's up?
Speaker 7:Yeah, it's either pessimistic. It's either you're hopeful or you're dead on the inside, and that's how we feel as Cardinals fans or jets fan, just always know that you're not going to win.
Speaker 1:It's a rough go. This is the year we're not going to win again. It's a rough go of it for many of our panelists and their respective football teams this year. I'm going to go ahead and give a point to CJ for the eternal optimism for his commanders on that round. Good banter, as always. There we go. We'll go ahead and get him a point. All right, we're going to get into question number three. This is our video. Go ahead and check this out.
Speaker 6:Remember, when Cedric the Entertainer starts, he's supposed to be singing, dancing and telling jokes. That's why he's called the Entertainer. We found out he can't sing, can't dance and doesn't write jokes. He did four comedy specials. They're so bad, Shannon, they're not available on Netflix or Tubi. Can I say that again for the audience they're so bad that they're not available on Netflix or Tubi. You don't think they have a good comedian. The world doesn't think that, sir, I have 12 comedy specials. He has four specials that are not available on Netflix or Tubi.
Speaker 1:All right. So off of that, is it okay to expose real estate professionals? Start us off, cj. Go easy, go easy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I don't know if it's exposing when you're responding, right, you know the things that Kat was talking about here. He was responding to things that were said either about him or on this same platform, right? So I can understand that. I think our industry has gotten a bit weird with this whole everybody's trying to expose. You know, everybody's not a guru, everybody really does it. I think it's all kind of lame and weird, you know, because often in our space nobody even says who they're talking about. You know, like they allude to people. And what I've concluded right, I've been in this space for a long time what I've concluded is people are just simply trying to market themselves and make themselves sound better by quote unquote exposing other people. If it's not coming from an actual helpful place, then I think it's pretty corny. I think it's pretty lame person there we go.
Speaker 1:I like it, the PC answer. Today. He's not trying to lose points from his favorite realtor over here. All right, steve, what about you? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 7:I'm here for it, I love it. So you know, there has been a time or two where I might whisper something into Corey Thompson's ear. I was like, hey, did you hear about this? What are your thoughts on this? And just let him go to work. There's Chris Rude, right? He posted something a couple of weeks ago. I loved it To Chris's point. You know it could have been a little bit more specific. And then there's a reason why I don't watch reality TV. So I do enjoy ballerbusters whenever it comes up in my feet, right. So I think that there is something to be said for exposing these people. But even though there's something to be said for it, no one's doing it, from what I've seen, except for Corey Thompson. So I'm here for it, I support it, but I try to stay out of it as far as being actively involved in it, because I'm not trying to put out negative energy, but I get. I get sucked up into the job as well.
Speaker 1:There we go. Don't don't be bringing negative vibes around the office, steve. We don't need that. All right, what about you, rj?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not really a big fan of this whole exposing other people that are trying to make a living and you know, being an entrepreneur is hard. I think a lot of times what I've seen is is people being exposed because they weren't successful on a venture or or it didn't get a positive result, and you know, cj and I openly talk about the fact that we've had struggles in our businesses. What could that have done to my family and my business and the my ability to help change other people's lives, if I had had someone come out and attack me and expose me and be like dude. Chris Jefferson can't make payroll in 2017. Does that mean he can't impact thousands of lives now, in 2023? No, it's as part of the entrepreneur journey at times, the overcoming struggles, so I'm not a huge fan of it.
Speaker 2:I do think there's a time and place where maybe a theory theory that's being thrown out needs to be exposed and let people reverse, engineer, like, for example, I saw a post on social media the other day that said hey, the numbers don't work on a deal, that's what you wholesale. I completely disagree. That's not what you wholesale. That's bullshit. I'll expose that topic. I'm not going to call out the person because it's not necessary. You can figure that out for yourself if you follow that person. So I like to handle those situations.
Speaker 1:Don't talk about CJ, like that dude. He's right there Like come on now, bro, be nice, be nice. All right, leon, what about you, man?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean I'll let the audience go back and watch all the PTDs. They definitely know that I love to spitfire, but I am not someone to take the flamethrower which, by the way, how entertaining was that, I don't know how many views it's had now. But I'm for it when it comes to the comedy side, because I love being exposed, because comedians steal from each other all the time. The good thing about in real estate investing is we can steal from each other all the time and it not be that big of a deal. But in comedy it's a little different. Obviously Steve knows this about me.
Speaker 3:I try to never say any ill about anybody because I know that at almost 47 years of age that negative energy and talking bad about others is just going to you know. It says more about you than it does actually that individual. So I try less time on that. But one thing I will say is this in a community like ours, 375 members strong, if somebody comes to me and asks me about a specific individual, about doing a JV or doing, you know, hiring that individual, you know, tell them the truth, you know, and let them then make the decisions based upon the feedback that I've heard about that individual services or what I know about that individual. That is not speaking ill will, that's speaking the truth and I think it's important when we know these type of things. Like Steve tells me all the time not to work with RJ, I have to listen to that.
Speaker 7:So when we're talking about, you know the stuff that Leon is on talk about. That's the reason why I corner him. When we're a collective genius like Leon, what do you got? What's the latest? Right? But as far as RJ goes, I strongly disagree. As far as exposing someone during a downtime, the perspective here is, when you're having a hard time or see you has a hard time, I'm having a hard time we'll say we're having a hard time. I can say with full confidence that my education company revenue went down as I was being honest about my business. But I live with that because I sleep good at night knowing that I am fully honest and transparent. Right, my challenge? Well, you were talking earlier. Someone has a downtime if they're talking about how awesome they're doing and they're not. Now you're just selling snake oil, because now you're selling something that's unproven and now you're taking someone's good, hard-earned money that you don't deserve. Right, because you're selling under false pretenses.
Speaker 2:But it's our job, as their competitor in the education space, to be better at marketing, better conveying our message, for them to spend their dollars and cents with us instead of the person that's selling snake oil.
Speaker 5:Yeah, because, because here's the thing, right, like, if somebody's doing what you're saying, Steve, I would assume they're not getting people any results. You know, like, one thing I challenge people on all the time, right is like, you know, hey, like, ask people for the results they've gotten people for what you're looking to pay them for. We're just in this weird culture. Rj reminded me when he went, I got a guy running around calling me a scammer right now, beating court eight times. Right, I'm not losing any sleep over that, right, right, the actual reality of it is this right, like, people expose for their own benefit. That's, that's the harsh reality People always look into expose somebody for their their own benefit, because I never see anybody doing anything about what they're trying to expose. Right, when I, when I see other influencers and educators, like talking about other people and referring to other people, I just think it's pretty corny. Right, like, if you're not going to say who you're talking about and why, then it really has no room in the space to me.
Speaker 7:Right, like, you know, that's that's what you're talking about, though, right Is like you're, you're suggesting that they should vet the mentor, right, but you're assuming that everyone is going to go through and do these things and isn't going to fall for the marketing, isn't going to fall for the false promises Like this is what. This is the the greatest challenge.
Speaker 3:So there's this is breaking news, I know to everyone, but in this industry, at real estate investing, there's something that is different than comedy, right? When, when a cat was calling out Cedric to entertainer, there's actual video of him stealing that. That same job, right, you can actually go back and see it. The difference in real estate investing that we all know. What's the one of the first things that we say at the collective genius, steve in the first day check it.
Speaker 3:You go at the door you go at the door because in this industry people always round up on numbers Now, I'm not saying all but people lie on their numbers.
Speaker 3:I know that's breaking and shocking, but the reality is that it is common practice in this business and that's why I said before. I'm not here to flamethrow anyone, but if I am asked on, should I choose Steve Trang as my, as my sales trainer, I'm absolutely going to give them all the positives and all the negatives the one or two that I've heard. I'm going to give them the truth and let them then make the decision.
Speaker 5:But Leon, even in that scenario, like for me, like if somebody says hey, don't do business with RJ because of XYZ, like that's not going to sit with me I'm not that type of person, right? Unless you can show me a firsthand experience and like you can you can reasonably tell me why you had a negative experience with RJ. I'm not naive, right, like I know that some people don't like other people, like we, we, we got to stop operating in this world like as if unanimous love exists. Absolutely. People don't unanimously just love everyone or like everyone.
Speaker 3:Here's one thing I say all the time all of us as a community, as educators, as trainers we cannot be all things to all people, so we cannot satisfy every single individual Absolutely. People should understand that when they're making decisions, and that's a great point.
Speaker 5:Because how many times has somebody and I'll be quiet RJ how many times has somebody from a jaded perspective, shout out to RJ base? I mean, I like the hat how many times, from a jaded perspective, has somebody told you not to do business with somebody, and maybe they've never even done business with that person themselves? Sure, you know they're operating from a secondhand conversation or thought or opinion, or you don't even know what the person's ulterior motive is. So I just think we got to be cautious with that. We have to be cautious in all ways, but we, I think we certainly have to be cautious with judgment.
Speaker 2:CJ, you done.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can try to get some points.
Speaker 2:Shout out to CJ's opinion on this one. He really wanted to make it known. Going back to what Leon was talking about, you know everyone rounds up on numbers and things like that and taking a little bit of a shot at CJ here, I think this is why it's important to follow people's organic content. You follow it long enough, you will see lies being told or the story adds up because the liars out there. They will tell you hey, I'm doing $10 million a year.
Speaker 2:And then all of a sudden you see, like the post change and then it's like I just had my first million dollar month, but I thought two months ago you had 800,000 in escrow. Like the organic content, can you know kind of lead you to which ones is the most of you?
Speaker 5:At least RJ saying at least delete the post, man, when you make the new one, at least the older one, because, as we can add, everybody's got a calculator.
Speaker 7:You know, update the old posts to a lot of the new storyline. Always read the edit Always.
Speaker 3:One last point on this, I see the most inflation of numbers, not to take a flamethrower to anyone.
Speaker 1:Oh boy.
Speaker 3:When someone tells me they do 20 million in business, who is that? Generally Realtors, baby. Thank you.
Speaker 5:Shout out to NAR. I just saw a realtor say this today Everybody's losing points and I'm just like yeah.
Speaker 7:I'm a million dollar producer too. You know that's true.
Speaker 2:You know, that is absolute truth.
Speaker 5:Add up the price of the home. The house that sold, yeah, the house. You sold 10 houses for 500,000. Now all of us come on.
Speaker 1:That's a five million dollar producer, cj.
Speaker 7:I'm a bigger producer.
Speaker 3:Just for that one comment. I should get everyone's point.
Speaker 2:Actually, I donate all of my points to Leon.
Speaker 1:Leon came in guns blazing. On that one he did, he came in guns blazing. I'm not a flamethrower, but we're going to give Leon the point on that one. Yeah, there's a lot of rounding up in the industry on both sides of the fence. There is it, does it, definitely does. Before we get into our next question, we want a word from our sponsor, pat Hilton, over at Acoustic Force Media.
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Speaker 1:Awesome. Thank you to Pat for everything that you do for the PTD crew around here. We're going to get into question number four. Nick Saban announced his retirement from Alabama and college football, leaving behind one of the greatest achievements among coaches and a grand legacy for Alabama. If you could steal one of Nick Saban's leadership traits, which trait would you pick? Start us off, Leon.
Speaker 3:Man, what a last couple of days. Belichick, saban, pete Carroll, I mean all people that are championship level coaches, and I think the one thing that I love about all of those guys is their ability to hold, the ability to hold people accountable to their greatness. Saban was a master at holding elite talent accountable to their greatness to live up to that five star ranking and to me, that's the legacy of Nick. Saban is holding people accountable to be great, above and beyond whatever they came in thinking they could be. He took them to another level and so to me, it's getting the most. It's truly coaching right, getting the most out of someone, even at the most elite level, because there are coaches all the time to get five star recruits and they're done. Nick turned them into superstars beyond what they ever thought they could be.
Speaker 1:Very, very true Good analysis there. We wouldn't expect anything less from you, Leon. All right, CJ, what are your thoughts on Saban and what would you try to go ahead and take from him?
Speaker 5:Man, what an end of an era. I mean, this guy is an absolute legend, I mean greatest college football coach ever. So what I would take from Nick Saban is, I think, back in this moment of just hearing the question of you know, all his pressers, all the moments that I've seen of Nick Saban I think what I would take and I appreciate the most is his directness. You know I'm working on making sure that I'm more direct. You know, I think anytime I've seen him he's operated in this direct environment with people and his communication, but he's also garnered the level of respect that he has for who he is. So that definitely would be what I would take for sure.
Speaker 1:There we go. There we go. All right, I like it. Cj, yes, legend, absolute legend. All right, steve, what about you?
Speaker 7:So, from what I understand, he was always one of the best recruiters in the country, right, he's always bringing in the best talent and he did what Leon mentioned a moment ago about checking your ego at the door. He could bring in the top three receivers in the country and have them all willing to buy into the system and wait for their time. Put in the work, do the work, do your job and wait until it's your time right. So being able to manage all the egos all at once, I think, is what I envy the most. We have this show here. We have a bunch of alphas. These are all first draft picks, lottery picks here. Right In every episode, archer tries to steal the show. He doesn't check his ego at the door, he's trying to make the show about him right. The ability to get everyone to keep their egos in check for the greater good for all parties I think it's the most admirable trait.
Speaker 1:I love that you brought RJ into the mix. On that one, steve, we appreciate it, we all do. All right, rj. What about you, mr Ego? Yeah, shut up to.
Speaker 6:RJ.
Speaker 2:Seriously man seriously.
Speaker 5:Dude. Just look at the wall behind him and just think of Steve's answer, man.
Speaker 2:It's all earned, baby.
Speaker 4:That's all earned.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm saying. When I think about Nick Saban, I think about his ability, not only for what he did for his players, but to create great coaches from his staff. His coaching tree is undeniably one of the best of all time. Not his results, but his ability to bring people up within his organization, and then they'll let them go spread their wings. 10 NFL head coaches have come from him. Last year's NFL coach of the year came from his coaching tree.
Speaker 2:Nine former FBS coaches, 13 current, including the back-to-back national championships with Georgia Kirby Smart. Four of those coaches are in the SEC and it'll probably be five when one of those comes in and replaces him. And then he has three coaches in the FCS as well. I mean his ability to bring coaches up and let them go out. I mean what he did for Steve Sarkesian. In hearing that story, steve Sarkesian couldn't get a job and he said come be a consultant for Alabama and he resurrected that man's career. Now he's the head coach of the University of Texas. That, I think, in the coaching realm will be Nick Saban's legacy, not the national championships and everything else his ability to change other coaches' lives. I think that's what Nick Saban will be remembered for RJ.
Speaker 3:that's a great point I forgot about when I was talking about demanding greatness. I just isolated to players like the quarterback room that he had with Jaylen Hertz and Tua and what's your guy's name? In New England. He had three starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:That ain't my guy, bro.
Speaker 3:Don't put that on me. He had three starting quarterbacks in managing to Steve's point. He managed egos and he demanded greatness not only from his players. But again you're coming in with five star egos, right? That's one of the things that people talk about. I'm attracted to greatness, so if I'm reading any sports book, it's always about the Phil Jackson's of the world Michael Jordan's, obviously the Nick Saban's wanting to understand how you get the best out of that, because that's I mean Mike Tomlin talks about that all the time with the Pittsburgh Steelers is that coaches. Our job is to get the best out of someone and coach them up and get them to be able to do. I can't think of anyone at the collegiate level in my lifetime that did it better than Nick, not only from a coaching standpoint for his players. But to RJ's point, the coaching tree is phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Well, leon on that note, if you were to say who is the better coach? Because our next question is about Bill Belichick Bill Belichick or Nick Saban? The results on the field are pretty comparable, but the results off of the field and what they did in their coaching trees are polar opposites. Bill Belichick's coaching tree underneath them is a hot mess. No one left Bill Belichick and went out and succeeded. So many other people left Nick Saban and went out and replicated what they did at Alabama. I mean, look at what Kirby smart's doing at Georgia. He's basically Alabama junior.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he's Alabama 2.0.
Speaker 7:Yeah, leon. So like, since you're studying greatness and like how to get the most out of people and that's what you admire like, what are we going to do to get the most out of CJ, because, like he just checks it in every week?
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'd love to hear the answer. I see Steve coming in hot today I like it, I like it I think it's the burgundy at throwing them off.
Speaker 2:Hey, cj, what would you feel about if Bill Belichick went to the commander?
Speaker 5:I'm not a fan of that at all.
Speaker 7:Look, I think it was.
Speaker 5:No, I think the sports world has changed right, like I think that, with the world of the NIL deal, with the transfer portal, with how that transfers into the professional leagues.
Speaker 5:Now, I think these young coaches are winning for a reason, right they're able to resonate better with their players, they're able to build better bridges and relationships. That you know, I think, the years of Belichick and maybe Saban sees that type of writing on the wall as well right, alabama in the last couple of years hasn't necessarily been Alabama in certain ways. Right, we expect almost them to win every year. It seems like, or at least be in it, and they seem to be, I guess. But my point is saying that, you know, ultimately is like, even with us as coaches, right, like we all coach here, you know there's a certain level of work that it takes to, like, build a bridge of trust with somebody underneath you, whether that's a student, whether that's another coach, you know, whatever that is. So, like to RJ's point, saban's been able to create a level of trust with players, with the AD's office, with other coaches around him, and that is truly coaching all the way around.
Speaker 3:Yes, I would say that one thing I would slightly disagree if I'm a Washington Commander fan and Bill Belichick's name was mentioned. We started this off talking about greatness because obviously Belichick and Nick I mean you could argue both of those are the two best college and professional football coaches of all time and it's hard to argue against that right. But greatness generally goes with, you know, someone maximizing a specific piece of the business right. Like if I were going to bring in Belichick. There's no way I would bring him in to be the GM as well. He'd have to be like Andy Reed, where Andy was like I got to give this up because I'm really good.
Speaker 3:I'm really great at being a coach. So if you want to do it, you have to have a great general manager. That would work well, and I think that Bill can do really well still in the NFL with a great general manager.
Speaker 2:I'll say one thing that I also think that played a role in the Nick Saban's decision here is that he knows he could be a great like absolute great TV personality and I think he's gotten to the point where he feels like maybe the game's starting to pass him by and he's like dude, I could go be a Hall of Fame TV personality for 10, 15 more years and that's a lot less stressful.
Speaker 2:So I think he kind of realized like, instead of what Belichick's done and kind of stayed on the horse for too long, he said, hey, I'm going to go do something else and be great at it.
Speaker 3:Surprise by it, though I can tell you, when we got that news last night, I thought Nick would be the guy that, like Bear Bryant or Joe Paterno that died within months of leaving. I just thought that he would be a lifer, so I was surprised by that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was definitely some breaking news. Something else to think about. He walked away from $71.8 million remaining on that contract. Like that's not like.
Speaker 5:I wonder what that broadcast deal is going to look like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like well, it's got to be what greater than or equal to.
Speaker 3:My man's got no expenses. Alabama paid off his house. I mean the guy's got zero expenses and a bunch of money in the bank. I mean he could. He's going to be OK regardless.
Speaker 1:Absolutely On that round. Shout out to RJ getting a hold of Savins Wikipedia page and just going through all the coaches. Geez got to give him the point for that one.
Speaker 3:It's research.
Speaker 1:We're impressed when RJ brings his research. The R in RJ Bates stands for research.
Speaker 3:It does, but the J is junior because I still got him on that one.
Speaker 1:Awesome. All right, let's get into our last question today, now that the Patriots dynasty has officially ended with Belichick's departure, what role is more important to long term success Management or key players? Start us off, rj.
Speaker 2:As a Patriots fan, thank you so much to that organization that gave us 20 plus years of just amazingness. I mean I don't think you will ever see anything like that. On that note, I love Bill Belichick's death, but it's key players. Management cannot win without talent. Talent can win with poor management. We saw that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers I mean they didn't have great management, they didn't have great coaching. Brady went down there with talent and still found a way to win a Super Bowl in that organization. Belichick could not win with Bumass, mac Jones and Cam Newton. Why he couldn't do it? He's the greatest coach of all time, supposedly, but we couldn't even find a way to go to the playoffs, not much less win championships. So in my opinion, it's got to be key players. That's more important than management.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that third place draft picks looking really sharp this next upcoming season. We're excited for it. All right, Leon, what about you?
Speaker 3:Well, I definitely knew where RJ was going. We've had this kind of question before and he's always Jimmy's and Joe's over X and O. But I will say that.
Speaker 5:Jimmy's and Joe's.
Speaker 3:You've never heard that one before. That's great. Always Jimmy's and Joe's over X and O. That's in basketball. So when coaching basketball, yeah, I'm definitely looking for Jimmy's and Joe's because I know I can put them in my X and O's and be competitive. But if I think about this from a business perspective and really dissect the question, the question says long-term success, and Steve can attest to this. You bring in a bunch of Mavericks, azure acquisitions, people and they will get you to a certain point. They're really good at the gift of DAB and closing, but it is a temporary fix. If I dissect the question and look at long-term success and don't get me wrong, they're both super important. You've got to have the Jimmy's and Joe's, but for long-term success for me you've got to have management and key processes to build key players. It may not work in the NFL, but from a business perspective, there's which way I'm going. I'm going on the management and process side.
Speaker 1:There we go. You're only going to go as far as your systems will take you. All right, CJ, what about you?
Speaker 5:I mean it's obviously management. I mean management's always going to win out. Great management creates key players at all ways. That comes down to your training, that comes down to your scouting, that comes to how you develop people. So it's always going to be management to me and that should be evident. I know this is RJ's favorite team, but he could watch maybe more hockey than football, I don't know. But once the key player left, as they often always do, when we asked about longest relationships other than Steve and I don't know how they figured this out, but nobody said like the key person in their business, people leave, they go, they go try new things, they want to go other places for other opportunities. So it's always going to be management, because that's what creates those things.
Speaker 1:But no, cj, I am the reason that Steve's still in business, so I just wanted to share that with you.
Speaker 5:If I had to take a wild guess, that would have been it.
Speaker 1:There you go. That's it right there.
Speaker 5:Somebody's got to carry the sled from the front, and it's not Lyskin, steve bro.
Speaker 3:No, and you're doing 100 million worth of business every year, so you know that.
Speaker 5:It can't be the guy who spends $150K on a digital token, all right. It can't be the guy we trust for everything, all right.
Speaker 1:Oh man, All right, Steve, what about you?
Speaker 7:Management or key players. So there is some truth there and Matt has been an absolute key player. He has met the MVP throughout my career. So I don't think you can have one without the other. You look at it as a leadership principle. The team can only go as far as a leader can lead them, and a leader can only go as far as a team can take them. It goes both ways. So you can't just focus on one or the other. I take that back. What we can control is ourselves and be the best version of ourselves so we can attract the people that want to work with us. Right. So then we can build out the best systems. But you can't. You can't just have a great system.
Speaker 7:I can't go to collective genius like, ok, I'm going to sign up for left main, I'm going to go to dantic, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that, I'm going to do that, boom, we're done. Right, I'm going to have Gary Harper come in and build my business, I'm done. It doesn't work that way. You can't just have systems and management. Likewise, I can't just go recruit a bunch of rock stars and be a crappy leader. If I can't lead them, they're going to go off and like why am I working here? I can go off and do this on my own. How many times have you heard people that run a wholesale business like, oh, my guy just abandoned me and left me to go do his own thing. The reason why they left is because they didn't believe in you being able to help them get where they wanted to go. So I think it goes both. You can't have success without having a high level of management and high level of people.
Speaker 3:Keith. I think they're being long term success and I agree with you, Steve. It is important for both, Because if we just went with talent to RJ's point Jermakas, Russell, Ryan, Leif we wouldn't have a term called bust. Right, All these players that were number one overall picks, Michael Olo Candy in the NBA, All of these people were super talented but were bust. So you have to have both.
Speaker 2:And that had nothing to do with management on why they were bust.
Speaker 3:You don't think the organization like Jermakas Russell, you put him in the right system or Ryan Leif, or any of these players that were. They're talented enough to be a top pick overall or five pick. You don't think organizations matter.
Speaker 2:I cannot help the fact that the Raiders thought a 350 pound guy was going to be a great quarterback. Ok, yeah, you can?
Speaker 3:That was a good call just by looking at him. You don't know that he wouldn't have been great in another, better run organization? You don't know that?
Speaker 2:OK, but that's not the question. I mean the question we're assuming that key players are like the Tom Brady's and the Aaron Rodgers, not the bust.
Speaker 5:I mean you wouldn't consider a number one draft pick a key player?
Speaker 2:Yes, no, go, look at the history of number one draft picks. They're normally bust, but that's again.
Speaker 7:Leon's point.
Speaker 3:You assume that because they were great or they didn't become a great player that they couldn't have become, you put a different organizations, process and coaching matters. You have to have both. You can't just have a bunch of great players, assume that you're going to win.
Speaker 2:OK, so let's diving back into the first part of this conversation. Is the New England Patriots? Ok, but like this is the dynasty of the early 2000s and 2010, all the way into the 2020s. If their management was top notch, they had plenty of bust inside of their organization. That's just part of the game. I mean, there was plenty of people that they brought along. Are you saying that just great management automatically eliminates the fear?
Speaker 7:of having a bust. It doesn't prevent you from making mistakes, but you're going to have better long-term success. We're talking about long-term success Like did they have crappy picks? For sure they had crappy picks, but in a long run they drafted better and they built them up. They had people like I can't was it Pat who was one of their DBs, that left Lloyd Malloy right, like I think that was a big contract negotiation, like he wanted a big contract, and they're like no, we got someone right behind you. Like they had a steady bench consistently, so they didn't have to max out their contracts with a handful of players. But let's be real.
Speaker 2:What made that organization was Tom Brady.
Speaker 7:That was a big part of it. But, how did they draft him in the sixth round?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's management.
Speaker 7:That was management.
Speaker 5:That's management.
Speaker 2:No, it was not management.
Speaker 5:You don't think so.
Speaker 2:RJ, we're going to use your word, man.
Speaker 5:Take all.
Speaker 7:RJ's points away.
Speaker 3:You're going to use the Patriots example. You did mention earlier that they didn't have a lot of coaches that have panned out. But one thing they lost a lot of and more responsibility continued to go with Bill Belichick was personnel Like the more people would leave and start going to other organizations to be in GM and VPs of personnel and those type of things. Their talent evaluation continued to go downhill. So my point in saying that is the system and the coaching and all of that still could have been great, but the evaluation of the talent you need both to be successful.
Speaker 2:No way, bro. You're so dead wrong.
Speaker 7:What are you talking about? You can't judge an organization by its last three years.
Speaker 2:They won three Super Bowls in the first four years and then they won the back three on the back four years. What are you talking about? Their talent evaluation went down.
Speaker 3:No, they went about recent, the recent last three, four years, where they haven't been.
Speaker 5:I think you're losing RJ. Rj is one of those guys, man Like you know, those guys that are. They talk about high school accolades. You know what I'm saying. If he doesn't, lost.
Speaker 7:How would it go, bro? Hey, so Al Bundy, al Bundy, real quick. Have you guys watched the art of coaching? So it's an HBO special. I watched it a couple of years ago and I see them watch TV. I don't watch a lot of TV.
Speaker 5:It was a couple years ago it was documentary.
Speaker 3:HBO isn't television right.
Speaker 7:Yeah, he's the only three guys who goes to the botanical garden.
Speaker 5:man Hall box office anyway.
Speaker 7:So the art of coaching and it's basically it's a interview with Nick Saban and Bobella check. You guys know, right, every year they take turns going to each other's house for this, like you know, in the summer, and they just talk football right for two full days or whatever. It's a very fascinating documentary. Like Nick Saban, you're talking about coaches that have built up other coaches. I don't know if you know this, rj, but Nick Saban was a coach under Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2:I know that and everyone wants to get you read it on Wikipedia. It's not Leon. I will say this you need to read that. You need to come around over here.
Speaker 7:What's RJ doing?
Speaker 2:Leon, you need to read the dynasty, and that was the.
Speaker 3:I actually have read the dynasty.
Speaker 2:Then you need to read it again and actually try to call it.
Speaker 7:This is the first time we had on the show where someone said, hey, go read a book, do yourself a favor, go pick up a book.
Speaker 3:So the easy answer, the easy, the lazy answer, is that it was just Tom Brady. That's an easy, lazy answer.
Speaker 5:That's lazy RJ, frustrated and stressed on. Rj is my favorite RJ.
Speaker 2:It was Wes Welker and Randy Moss, it was all these key players.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they got there because of management, bro. You think they just, you think they just ended up over there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, randy Moss broke in the Tom Brady's hotel room and said I want to come play for you next year. He didn't break into Bill Belichick's hotel room. He said I want to play with you, motherfucker. He said, hey, I'm gonna throw 75-yard bombs.
Speaker 7:RJ is like your friend he spent a little too much time in the champagne room and now he's got all this built up frustration.
Speaker 5:For shame, rj for shame.
Speaker 1:All right, so clearly we have some passionate debate regarding this Managing. Maybe we're gonna bring back. You know, next week we'll do a management versus key players question again, because clearly there's some unresolved issues here.
Speaker 7:Loving the. You know what, though, I want to say? I want to get more shout out. I'm sorry to management, so good job, cassie, for honing in this player.
Speaker 5:Steve, I was literally thinking the same thing earlier. I mean, could you imagine RJ as the key player? No management. You probably hear fighting contractors and stuff.
Speaker 1:Cassie just gets an automatic 10 points at the start of every PTD Just for just for getting RJ here on time. Great show this week, loving the new stream deck being able to absolutely award points as you guys give zingers. The inaugural winner today is gonna be Leon G Barnes. Love it, that was. That was a well managed show. If you will, we had a blast today. I'm gonna go ahead and let everybody do outros. We're gonna start with our winner, leon. Say bye to the people.
Speaker 3:Stated earlier, you can go back and watch the tape spitfire, not necessarily front flamethrowers. So great show today, I love. I love this as much as we love Steve 420. Steve, we love angry.
Speaker 1:RJ. Angry RJ is my favorite card. Alright, cj, say bye to the people.
Speaker 5:Now I see the people man. Bye to angry RJ. Man Can't wait to see him again. It's like my favorite guy on the planet. Man. Great show today. Congrats to Leon. Leon's often right and he comes from this very you know like stoic place. So good went for Leon today. I think it was well deserved.
Speaker 5:I was gonna give him all my points too, you know, but I still want to follow behind RJ because that didn't seem like good management. 7 pm Eastern tonight StarFlippinDealscom haven't done a class in a month. We're back, baby. I see y'all tonight.
Speaker 1:Alright, steve, say bye to the people.
Speaker 7:Bye everyone. Thank you guys for watching. Shout out to the you fam this it's. They're blowing up with lightning bolts in here in the chat and if you guys, please you know those are still watching if you could subscribe to this channel right, if you're listening on it to subscribe, come in and defend me. I am under massive verbal assault here and the comments these communists accusations are completely unfounded. Rj, telling everyone I voted for Bowden Biden completely untrue. It's coming back to hurt me. Please subscribe and defend my honor inside the YouTube shorts please that's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yes, make sure you subscribe to PTD. Definitely do that. Go ahead, go in there. Give Steve a rash of it. That is what we're looking for, alright? Last, certainly not least, say bye to the people.
Speaker 2:Rj, angry RJ was angry we on was the player today. We got to give a shout out to Leon's management. Leon's copyright writer gave them all the answers today. Shout out to him. Shout out to Leon's scheduler, the person that told them to show up five minutes late so the whole show could start late. Shout out to Leon's groomer, who got rid of that terrible beard that he was showing up. And shout out to Leon's reader, the person that reads books and then tells them what the book is about, so he doesn't actually comprehend what the dynasty was about. Congratulations, leon, you got your win for the year wow, someone seems, but hurt seems slightly angrier than normal.
Speaker 1:All right, thank you everyone for tuning in. We hope you had as much fun watching us as we had being here. We will see you guys next week.