Mother's Day: Mom's Bad Advice, We Had A Fight, Digital Gardening

Hormones, third-grade teaching aspirations, and palm-scanning payment technology collide in this exploration of modern marriage and family life.

Other Talking Points:

• "You're going through hell and taking me with you." 
• Winthrops career ambitions 
• Amazon's palm-scanning payment system at Whole Food
• Bad Advice from TV Moms
• Flashbacks Quiz
• Digital gardening

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Podcast Introduction and Family Updates

Speaker 1 0:00

Familiar Wilson's Media Relationships are the story . You are made of meat , my friend , all the way down . The following podcast uses words like and and also . If you're not into any of that shit , then now's your chance . Three , two , one run .

Speaker 2 0:23

I'm super familiar with the Wilsons . Get it Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons . I'm Amanda .

Speaker 1 0:32

And I'm Josh and we're the podcast about Marriage 2.0 with all of the side quests .

Speaker 2 0:36

Many , many side quests we have .

Speaker 1 0:39

Yes , and one of our little side quests is called Winthrop . He's our eight-year-old .

Speaker 2 0:44

He's not a little side quest . He was an unexpected side quest , but he takes a lot of mental energy .

Speaker 1 0:50

Changed the whole campaign , rolled a nat 20 and here he is . I picked him up from school the other day , as I do almost every day , and he says Dad , I want to teach third grade or be a YouTuber .

Speaker 2 1:01

Okay , those are very different goals , but okay .

Speaker 1 1:06

I want to be a teacher because you get free snacks and it's fun , but they don't make much money . True story , Winthrop . But I thought it was interesting that he said he wanted to be a third grade teacher . He's in second grade .

Speaker 2 1:17

I don't know what he's expecting , but I have a feeling he's going to be disappointed .

Speaker 1 1:22

But it's just interesting how it's like human nature to be like well , I don't wanna be anything in second grade . I don't wanna be a second grade teacher , because I know what that looks like . So me , the peak is a third grade teacher .

Speaker 2 1:32

I , as a lifelong teacher , would encourage him to maybe go toward YouTubing .

Speaker 1 1:37

You think there's more money in YouTubing ?

Speaker 2 1:39

I just think there's maybe less stress in YouTubing . I don't know , can you go to college to be a YouTuber ? Is this a degree ?

Speaker 1 1:46

path ? I don't think so . I think well , actually , you say that I'll bet you in a couple of years , if it's not a degree path , it will be .

Speaker 2 1:52

Yeah , you know what I Can you imagine ?

Speaker 1 1:54

You cannot be a YouTuber now without a college degree and you need to send in your resume and to the YouTube people and then they hire you . And now that's now ruined and corporatized .

Speaker 2 2:05

I would actually prefer that , because some people have a YouTube channel and lots and lots of followers that I wish wouldn't be talking . I didn't know . I learned something yesterday . He was watching a video of some guy who he only watches kids YouTube . We don't turn him loose on regular YouTube , but there's still some stuff on kids YouTube . I'm like I don't get it . So , but there's still some stuff on kids youtube I'm like I don't get it . So he was watching a video yesterday and this guy buys all of these snacks and mixes them together to make one snack we did that .

Speaker 2 2:33

We used to do that , I know but what he was doing was buying content creator snacks . So you know like they're . All these different content creators have their own like food marketed like mr beast has candy or whatever . The guy went into walmart and asked to find one of the youtubers candies and the sales associate was like oh no , we have a whole youtube section . So there's just a youtube section in walmart for all of the foods created by youtubers .

Speaker 1 3:00

So it is becoming very corporatized yeah , which means it's already had its death and now we're feasting upon its rotten flesh yeah , so until the next thing , like I wonder what the next thing is going to be like . The next social media or the next video app is just going to be . We shoot it straight into your brain , right ? That's the only thing left , or like giant holograms in the sky . What's left ?

Speaker 2 3:21

maybe I don't know . We were at whole foods yesterday and because whole foods is now has been , uh , absorbed by amazon , everything is amazoned . At the checkout there is a place where you can scan your palm . So I don't know what amazon has done , but it picks up like your . I don't know . It's the mark of the beast . 666 .

Speaker 1 3:40

I don't know , definitely playing into , like the old christian stereotypes here .

Speaker 2 3:46

Well , I remember thinking that we were all going to get tattooed on our wrist and that's how we were all going to be tracked . So he's sitting there with his palm , trying to pay with his palm , like no bud . It's not just anybody's palm .

Speaker 1 3:56

Yes , okay .

Speaker 2 3:57

Like it's not just anybody's palm .

Speaker 1 3:59

You don't have enough credit on your palm you have to register your palm palm .

Speaker 2 4:02

Yesterday also was joke day at school and so he was researching a joke to take in and it's all second grade jokes . And he was telling me one as we were driving and he said mom , somebody said , is my wallet an onion ? Because every time I look at it I cry and goes . I don't know what that means , because wallets aren't a thing . Right like he doesn't . Really , you have one , but does he see you ? Money , like you don't look at it and not have money , and cry Like we don't really have cash anymore .

Speaker 2 4:30

I mean I have 40 British pounds in my wallet , buying you nothing in the YouTuber section at Walmart .

Speaker 1 4:36

No , wallets are still . They still sell wallets on end caps at , like Marshalls and stuff .

Speaker 2 4:41

I understand that but I'm telling you that his experience with a wallet is we had to explain to him what it meant , because then he said it to Muffy and she said that's real Winthrop . I feel that . But she doesn't have a wallet , she just has an app on her phone that's connected to her bank account .

Speaker 1 4:57

I think , the next app , or useful video app . I got this teacup here . What if , like , I could have a screen on my teacup ? What if there was a screen on the bottom , and so I could be drinking my tea and then also watching a video ?

Speaker 2 5:11

I mean , that's basically what we do at the gas pump anyway . Like this technology exists out in the world ?

Speaker 1 5:16

Oh , I freaking hate that man . Is that widespread ? I would guess that it is because these are national chains . But you drive up to the gas pump and you don't want to be there . It's already unpleasant and then the gas pump basically starts to yell at you to buy things , and it's so loud . And it's weird because to me , the soundtrack of gas pumps used to be Harry Styles and she was .

Speaker 2 5:40

As it was , as it was , yeah , whatever .

Speaker 1 5:43

But now it's just people yelling at me , like about what I don't even know . I'm not there to . That's why I have my phone at the pump , so that I can amuse myself and look at a screen . I don't want to be staring at the gas pump .

Speaker 2 5:54

If you were on your phone . It isn't supposed to make like the gas tank explode or something . Wasn't that what we were all told ?

Speaker 1 5:59

Yeah , well , clearly that is some BS . You know , I'm waiting for the day and this has probably already happened somewhere where I go into the bathroom stall , I close the door and there's a commercial showing on the backside of the door .

Speaker 2 6:12

I'm sure that's a thing and I'm trapped .

Speaker 1 6:13

I have no choice .

Speaker 2 6:14

I'm sure that's a thing .

Speaker 1 6:15

What if you go into the bathroom ? You sit on the thing , on the throne , on the whatever and all of a sudden it's called a toilet . On the toilet , thank you , and you buckled in . It buckles you in and you have to watch the commercial before you're allowed to leave . What if it's a three minute commercial ? You have to do all your business

YouTube Culture and Technology Concerns

Speaker 1 6:31

within that stretch of time , no matter what , and then they just eject you out .

Speaker 1 6:36

I don't like this kind of anxiety inducing this is the world that we're rushing towards , as everything is on fire . And corporations take over more and more and commercials are going to be everywhere . You're going to be walking along . You're going to look down at the back of someone's shoes . Two tiny little screens , you know , advertising Best Buy .

Speaker 2 6:55

I mean we're already advertising . We are all walking advertisements when we wear any kind of brand .

Speaker 1 7:00

Yes , but people are going to rent out now the back of their head , right ? So I don't have to see the commercial playing on the back of my head , but I get money because everywhere I go I got this hat and on the back of my head there's a gap or old navy commercial welcome to our comedy podcast no , this is all great . I love it . So everything is content . Speaking of everything is content . We had our first real perimenopause argument yesterday like legit question , the relationship type of perimenopausal argument .

Speaker 2 7:31

Is this content ?

Speaker 1 7:32

Well , it is because I just want to warn everyone out there . It's coming for you . If you have a significant other who's going through perimenopause , it's coming for you and just prepare yourself for it . My favorite quote from you yesterday was I'm sorry that I'm putting you through hell . You remember what my response was we're going through it together or something . No , I said no , you're going through hell and you're taking me with you .

Speaker 2 7:58

That's right . I thought it was gonna be don't yell at me in response , Like what I need you to do is not yell at me while I'm yelling at you .

Speaker 1 8:05

Yes , so that was the crux of this argument . You were raising your voice at me on the phone . We don't need to get into the particulars of the argument , because it doesn't matter .

Speaker 2 8:13

Well , I was yelling because it was on my Bluetooth and I didn't think you could hear me .

Speaker 1 8:16

Lies and damned lies . So you were yelling at me on the phone and I am not a yeller .

Speaker 2 8:22

You're not , You're really really not .

Speaker 1 8:23

I am You're not , but I have had a particularly interesting two weeks during during my date times these last Two weeks . I was gonna say a few days , because it's just , I don't even know Time doesn't mean anything anymore , so I finally just I yelled back at you .

Speaker 2 8:40

Yeah .

Speaker 1 8:41

And then that's it did not go over well that started an argument and I said how am I supposed to handle it when I'm upset ? And you said you can't yell back at me .

Speaker 2 8:52

I said yelling back at me is not helpful . I didn't tell you not to yell back at me , I just said it wasn't helpful .

Speaker 1 9:00

I'm quite certain that you were pretty adamant that I am not to yell back at you .

Speaker 2 9:01

Well , other than that , I just hung up , but I did say goodbye , so it couldn't be considered hanging up on you . I just said I'm getting off the phone , bye . So I said goodbye . So it wasn't just hanging up . I just didn't want to say things that we were going to regret after we had already said it .

Speaker 1 9:16

You mean more things well , we did iron it out and we established that sometimes I might raise my voice in response to you raising your voice , and we just have to deal with it somehow . I don't like it .

Speaker 2 9:30

It's not fun it's more not fun for me .

Speaker 1 9:35

What ? Here we go , here we go , god , here we go , can we ?

Speaker 2 9:40

skip to the part where we go to the tavern with the ovaries and Jeff Jeff said he'd come to the tavern with me and my ovaries .

Speaker 1 9:47

Yes , that's right .

Speaker 2 9:54

Perimenopause and menopause is when your ovaries pack up and go to a tavern and the next town over or something .

Speaker 1 9:56

Yeah , not even this one , or leaving this . Your mom went through bad menopause too , right ?

Speaker 2 9:59

well , she went through it early , like in her early 40s and I'm gonna be 50 in a couple weeks , so it's just now hitting me . But I think though , because I had winthrop when I was 41 , I think I remember the doctors telling me that that pushed it . So , yeah , she went through it early . But then it I mean I remember her like my mom was a pretty soft spoken person slamming the cabinet doors so hard that , like the cabinet , the counters were shaking and I took my nephew outside and we just wandered around for like the rest of the day because it was intense rest of the day because it was intense .

Speaker 1 10:31

Yeah , no , it's nothing that I would wish on my worst enemy , and you know we joke and I joke , but I know that I have to be more sensitive and I promise I will be . So no yelling for me . That was my one yell for the year or whatever . I mean , it's pretty much been that long anyway . But let's do skip on to happier subjects . Mother's Day it is Mother's Day and you are one of those .

Speaker 2 10:56

I am a mother , you are a mother .

Speaker 1 10:58

So you know all about bad advice from moms .

Speaker 2 11:02

Why ? Because I give it , because I received it . Why do I specifically know about this ?

Speaker 1 11:06

First of , all , you also are a teacher and I'm certain as a teacher you've heard really bad advice given by moms and even like in your little mom's friends groups you've had , I'm certain you've heard things that have been ridiculous . I'm certain that even like in the history of your mom giving you advice , there have been some clunkers , some things that like , oh well , that's ridiculous .

Speaker 2 11:29

No , my mom just used to tell me that the Holy Spirit knew everything that I did and told her about it .

Speaker 1 11:33

So I was just terrified all the time . Holy Spirit really is kind of Santa right .

Speaker 2 11:39

Yes .

Speaker 1 11:41

Well , I'm going to give you a little quiz here . This is not game time , this is a Mother's Day . Things here . Bad advice from TV moms of the quiz . First one , which TV mom told her son everyone who isn't us is an enemy .

Speaker 2 11:58

Oh God .

Speaker 1 11:59

Was it Marie Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond ? Was it Circe Lannister from Game of Thrones ? Or was it Lucille Bluth from Arrested Development ? Do you know all those characters ?

Speaker 2 12:10

I never have watched any of those shows , but I'm aware of them , so I'm going with C .

Speaker 1 12:15

You think it's Lucille Bluth from Arrested Development that says everyone who isn't us is an enemy ?

Speaker 2 12:19

Yes , I do .

Speaker 1 12:20

Wrong Circe Lannister from Game of Thrones .

Speaker 2 12:23

That seemed way too obvious .

Speaker 1 12:25

Oh yeah . So she's the ruthless queen mother of Westeros who raised her children to view love as power enemies , raised her children to view love as power enemies as everyone and poison as parenting . If they were parenting Yelp reviews , she'd have one star and it would explode .

Speaker 2 12:39

Who warned her ?

Speaker 1 12:39

child gossip . Is the devil's telephone ? Best just to hang up ? Probably my mother Was it Tammy Taylor from Friday Night Lights , moira Rose from Schitt's Creek or Lois from Malcolm in the Middle .

Speaker 2 12:53

It was definitely not Moira , because Moira enjoys from Schitt's Creek or Lois from Malcolm in the Middle . It was definitely not Moira , because Moira enjoys a good gossip A .

Speaker 1 13:00

It is Moira Rose from Schitt's .

Speaker 2 13:03

Creek . Yes , no , she enjoys herself a gossip .

Speaker 1 13:06

Yes , but she also enjoys perhaps giving contrary advice to what she really believes she was a really bad advice giver .

Speaker 2 13:12

That is true .

Speaker 1 13:13

And really really questionable clothing choices as well . Was your mom a gossip at all or no ?

Speaker 2 13:19

No , no , no . Unless it was a prayer request .

Speaker 1 13:24

That's right . Prayer requests , as gossip is definitely a thing I was raised with .

Speaker 2 13:29

You know what the worst is ? The unspoken request . That's

Our First Perimenopause Argument

Speaker 2 13:32

like the vague booking people do on Facebook now or social media where they're like I'm having a really rough time , think of me , but they don't tell you what it is . I also don't like it when you hear that people died from a short illness . I need more information . What was the short illness ? Was it a stroke ? Was it COVID ?

Speaker 1 13:48

Was it like was it being caught in the bed with someone else , right ?

Speaker 2 13:51

What was the short illness that happened ? Yeah , no , the unspoken prayer request used to drive me nuts .

Speaker 1 13:57

Those of you who weren't raised in the church , there would be a time where they would take prayer requests , and so we're going to have a time of out loud praying and we want to know what it is you would like for us to pray for , or the dude in the front of the thing to pray for , and people raise their hands , be like you know , my dog Sparky lost his tail , or you know whatever , and then someone raised their hand and says I have an unspoken request . Okay then what are you doing ? Why are you saying it ? What's the point ?

Speaker 2 14:25

Well , because the whole thing was like the Lord knows your request , so we just have to .

Speaker 1 14:29

Well then , why say if it's unspoken , you just spoke it .

Speaker 2 14:33

Dude , I'm telling you , it's just because they want attention , of course it is All right .

Speaker 1 14:37

Next one here who declared I am the only authority in this house till I die , then you can do whatever you want . Was it Kitty Foreman from that ?

Speaker 2 14:54

70s show Lois from Malcolm in the Middle or Rebecca Pearson from this Is Us . No , it is Malcolm in the Middle . Or Rebecca Pearson from this Is Us .

Speaker 1 14:57

No , it is Malcolm in the Middle that is correct . I think that's the only one you've gotten right .

Speaker 2 14:59

Well it's because I only watched the two shows on either side . I watched this Is Us , I watched that 70s show and knew it wasn't those two .

Speaker 1 15:07

So process of elimination she was an interesting parent because she was definitely the one yell first and ask questions later . Nice Kind of like my dad . So there you go .

Speaker 2 15:18

Awesome . Maybe that's why you don't like it when I yell .

Speaker 1 15:20

Maybe it is that's right . As long as you don't go bald , we're okay though .

Speaker 2 15:23

I don't yell , I raise my voice so you can hear me .

Speaker 1 15:25

Okay . Who said to her daughter there's no such thing as too much coffee ? Me , was it Lorelei Gilmore from the Gilmore Girls , deborah Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond , or Carla Tortelli from Cheers ?

Speaker 2 15:40

no , it was . It's definitely Gilmore Girls that is correct .

Speaker 1 15:44

So my question to you is what bad habit do you think that your children are gonna pick up from you ?

Speaker 2 15:49

well , maybe coffee , because the um the 18 year old does not like coffee .

Speaker 1 15:54

She drinks green tea , like you , but I didn't start drinking coffee until I was mid-20s oh , I started drinking it like around 14 I mean I started drinking it early with my mom do you think that's why you're so short ?

Speaker 2 16:04

maybe also maybe just genetics , because my family is short . But uh , winthrop has decided he wants to try coffee and he's had it a couple times with no , because I don't drink it sweet . I drink it with cream but no sweetener , and he likes it . So I mean we've got an eight-year-old who's ready to be hopped up on caffeine . So that's probably a bad habit that they will get from me .

Speaker 1 16:23

That and the yelling . Okay , who lives by this philosophy ? Guilt works better than discipline . Discipline . Was it Betty Draper from Mad Men , Livia Soprano from the Sopranos or Lucille Bluth from Arrested Development ?

Speaker 2 16:37

Also my mom , but in the form of Christian guilt . I'm gonna go with the Sopranos .

Speaker 1 16:43

That is correct . The guilt that you were given , was it like passive , aggressive , or was it just straight ?

Speaker 2 16:49

No , it was more passive , aggressive , because it was like , if I didn't want to get up in the morning to go to church , it was like , well , you know , christ can walk up the hill to Calvary for you , but you can't get up to go to church . That's the kind of guilt I was given .

Speaker 1 17:01

It worked until it didn't . Yes , who said I have eight kids . I raise them like veal . I keep them in small spaces and feed them good lord , I have no idea . Was it Peg Bundy from Married With Children , carla Tortelli from Cheers or Lois from Malcolm in the Middle ?

Speaker 2 17:17

I'm gonna go with Carla because I don't think the other people had eight children .

Speaker 1 17:20

That is correct . Eight children , though , can you imagine ? Double the amount we have , right ? But we haven't even ever had them . Well , very rarely , for a small amount of time , we had them all in the house together .

Speaker 2 17:32

Yeah , like right after Winthrop was born and right before Daniel went to college .

Speaker 1 17:37

I don't know .

Speaker 2 17:38

And then it was still only half of the week because the boys were with their other set of parents for half of the week .

Speaker 1 17:43

Yeah , yeah , I don't know Ate a lot . But we had a bigger house then as well . Yeah , All right . Last one is if you don't stop crying , I'll give you something to cry about while I'm eating this casserole .

Speaker 2 17:54

Okay , take away the casserole 100% . Was told that many , many times .

Speaker 1 17:59

Was it Rebecca Pearson from this Is Us , deborah Barone from Everybody Loves Raymond , or a real mom somewhere ? A real mom somewhere . That is correct , my God .

Speaker 2 18:10

My mom would also say cause I whined a lot . Shocking .

Speaker 1 18:14

Did you really ? Oh yeah , you don't strike me as a whiner , yeah , but have you met our children ?

Speaker 2 18:19

Yeah , because they do it Clearly . They got it genetically .

Speaker 1 18:21

Yeah , but you don't whine . I mean , when you get angry , it's not whining .

Speaker 2 18:34

It's very forceful and yelling driving I'm sorry , I was also driving .

Speaker 1 18:36

Okay , are you ready to let this one go , or do we need to be here for a minute ? What would we do if we stayed ?

Speaker 2 18:38

here for a minute . You just keep reiterating the same things you've already reiterated , and I would say , okay , and then we'd move on .

Bad Advice from TV Moms Quiz

Speaker 2 18:45

So let's just pretend that we did that . What was it ? No , my mom would say like either cry or stop . But if you're whining , I'll give you something to cry about oh , jesus , oh yeah , that's vicious .

Speaker 2 18:55

I want you to cry , or I don't want you to cry , or I'll make you cry and I used to get like and my mom , I used to get spanked , right , my dad only spanked me once . My mom spanked me probably every other week and is that what happened to your bottom ?

Speaker 2 19:09

yeah , that's yet swollen it's swollen still shut up but the problem was I really loved those paddle ball things that had the rubber band attached . I mean the rubber ball attached with the thing . But I knew when it broke she was going to put it in a drawer and that's what I was going to get spanked with . And then so it was like it was just like I really want that to play with , but I don't want it in my house because I will eventually get spanked with it . And then she also , like she would say , go to your room , like , and you knew what was going to happen .

Speaker 2 19:38

And then my nephew , who is seven years younger than I am and he lived with us for a long time because my brother , his dad , died when he was three or four from brain cancer . See , I tell people what happens when people die . Because I don't want you to try to figure it out , I digress , that's a side quest . Anyway , my nephew lived with us for a long time and when my mom would tell me to go to my room because I was going to get spanking , he would say can I watch ? And she'd let him and I was . Really that was worse .

Speaker 1 20:06

You have never told me this , that was worse Would he laugh .

Speaker 2 20:10

Oh yeah , for the very few times that he actually got a spanking I was like selling tickets , like out in the neighborhood being like come watch . He's going to get a spanking , because it happened to me all the time .

Speaker 1 20:21

So are you saying that if you didn't have one of those broken things in your drawer , you wouldn't get spanked or she would grab the cast iron ?

Speaker 2 20:26

and do it with it . She'd just use her hand . But I would hurt less I don't know , it was wood . It felt like I don't know . Anyway , I don't .

Speaker 1 20:35

We don't spank our children so it's a thing because I don't , because we don't have any of those little paddle , that's right but I also don't subscribe to the .

Speaker 1 20:43

I need you to listen to me because you're afraid I'm going to hurt you instead of I'm just teaching you how to be a better human it's a problem because my thing right now is I hate threatening him with taking away screen time or doing this or that , but it's the only thing that works . There is no intrinsic motivation for him right now to listen to me when I tell him it's time to do this or time to take a bath . I have to threaten to take something away , and I hate doing that .

Speaker 2 21:09

Well , I mean , I think , as long as it's it's not a threat , it's a consequence , then that's different . Threatening means I'm telling you this is going to happen . I'm not actually going to follow through on it , right ?

Speaker 1 21:19

oh , I always follow through on it , and he loses his ever-loving mind . Well , one would think he would learn .

Speaker 2 21:23

No , you're not hitting him , you're not yelling at him , you're not berating him . You're parenting him . You were setting consequences for actions and that's absolutely fine with me . He doesn't't like it , but it's fine with me . My mom also used to do like she would count . Did your dad ever count Like we count with him , right ?

Speaker 1 21:40

I count with him . I count to three .

Speaker 2 21:42

Right , so my mom would count to three , but I knew if she got to three I was getting a spanking .

Speaker 1 21:47

Right .

Speaker 2 21:48

And she would tell me like I vividly remember her telling me one time to go clean my room and I said I'm not gonna do it . I was standing and I was maybe his age , maybe a little bit younger . I was standing in the hallway and wasn't a very long hallway to my room from the living room and she said go clean your room . And I said I'm not gonna do it . And she said she said you know I'm gonna go clean your room and I was not doing it and she said okay , I'm gonna count to three . If you are not cleaning your room you will get a spanking . So she said one and I stood there and said I'm not going to do it . And she said two and I started backing up I'm not going to do it .

Speaker 2 22:17

And by the time she got to three I was in my room cleaning my room , saying I'm not going to do it . So I wouldn't let go of the like , refusing that I wasn't going to do it but I was actually cleaning my room .

Speaker 2 22:35

My aunt called my mom one time and my mom's name is Shirley and she was like Shirley , she was like I've been trying your counting thing like you do with your kids , and I'm on 25 and he's not done it yet . Anyway , are we done with the bad advice from mothers , or are there more ?

Speaker 1 22:54

Trust me , if you give any bad advice , I'm going to write it down and I'll just bring it to our listeners .

Speaker 2 23:00

Also listeners . What's the worst parenting advice that you've received from either your mom or your dad , or your grandparents or caregivers ? Whoever took care of you in whatever way they tried their best to do ?

Speaker 1 23:10

Yes , definitely . Send that to us familiarwilsons at gmailcom . What time is it ?

Speaker 2 23:29

Daytime , Woo that excellent song by our second son , acjw nope , I do it wrong every time .

Speaker 1 23:46

Bad mothering advice ajcw .

Speaker 2 23:47

Sorry , andrew . Uh means it's game time and we haven't had a flashbacks in a couple weeks , so we're gonna have a flashbacks . This is a thing that you can play along with at home from the New York Times . Josh is going to try to anchor events in history . You ready ? Do you have your paper ? It's under here .

Speaker 1 24:05

Oh okay , Can I ? Can you just do that thing , that where you pull it out from under my computer without knocking my computer off of the thing ?

Speaker 2 24:12

Very good you did it . You ever ?

Speaker 1 24:17

seen that clip from jim carrey . No , he was recording the grinch that stole christmas and there's a scene where he is supposed to pull the tablecloth from from , uh , underneath all the plates on this table in his kitchen , and what's supposed to happen is that he's supposed to pull it off and all the stuff is supposed to come off . And there's the joke that he's supposed to pull it off and all the stuff is supposed to come off .

Speaker 1 24:36

And there's the joke that he's just screwed it all up , but what really happens is Jim Carrey goes to pull the tablecloth and everything stays on the table .

Speaker 2 24:42

So he did it perfectly .

Speaker 1 24:43

So he did it perfectly , and instead of like cutting and then reshooting it , he just then instantly ran back and knocked everything off the table , which makes for a much better scene anyway .

Speaker 2 24:53

And did they keep it in the movie ?

Speaker 1 24:54

They did .

Speaker 2 24:55

That's so good . That's so good .

Speaker 1 24:59

All right are you ready for your first event ? Yes , go ahead , give it to me .

Speaker 2 25:01

All right . So now , when you play flashbacks on your own , it's gonna give you the date to set your timeline , but we're gonna give this to Josh and have him try to guess the date first . The US troops start to seize and burn Canadian towns . Britain's , britain's , not the Britain's , just one Britain , Britain responds later by torching the White House .

Speaker 1 25:22

Oh my gosh , so this was like a couple weeks ago , right ?

Speaker 2 25:25

Mm-hmm , maybe tomorrow .

Speaker 1 25:29

Who knows . So let's say I freaking , have no idea . It would be after the revolutionary war , so 1790 1813 damn , I was gonna say in the 1800s okay .

Speaker 2 25:47

But okay , there were no points , so 1813 yeah , and that one doesn't really count for points anyway . Okay , all right , here's your real one for points On the oldest known papyrus , a ship's supervisor . Nope , did I say it wrong again ?

Speaker 1 26:01

You said papyrus and then a ship's supervisor .

Speaker 2 26:04

I know , so can we start that over please ?

Speaker 1 26:06

Oh , so I should edit this . Yeah , all right , go ahead .

Speaker 2 26:10

You're not going to edit this . On the oldest known papyrus , a ship supervisor keeps a diary of his life . On the nile day 25 , hauling stones . Day 26 , hauling stones . Day 27 , hauling stones it's just like some people social media feed now right um , let's see , so that's gonna be like bc , that's gonna be like um 900 bc , okay so , for the sake of this game , you just have to say if it's before or after 1813 .

Speaker 1 26:38

900 BC .

Speaker 2 26:38

yes , Okay , I'm going to tap it and you get circa 2600 BCE .

Speaker 1 26:44

Oh damn , 2600 BCE . You mean board . People existed back then as well . Yep Wowzers .

Speaker 2 26:52

Alright , next one the first US space station , Skylab , is launched . It has books , games and even darts , but the most popular way to relax is simply by watching Earth . I guess that's like we watch the moon .

Speaker 1 27:06

Yeah , would you do that ?

Speaker 2 27:08

Would you want to go into space ? No , I used to want to be an astronaut for like half a second , and this was even after challenger happened but then I decided I didn't want to do that . Would you go to space ?

Speaker 1 27:20

no , I think that I'm too anxious , especially since all these planes falling out of the sky . Now I'm gonna get on a rocket ship . No , thank you , katie perry just did it the whole time staring at her damn phone , not looking out at the , at whatever , at space , sort of she's looking at her phone and taking a selfie .

Speaker 2 27:34

Our world is doomed well , and then she came back to earth and kissed the ground and said like we must respect the mother , but let's talk about the amount of environmental damage that your five billion dollar space flight just did exactly that .

Speaker 1 27:47

Well , now that she's done , now she's in favor of no one else doing it . Okay , so 1973 would be sky lab all so after 1813 . 1973 is exactly it Bam . How did you know ? I know everything . You don't because clearly you didn't know circa 2600 BC . That's old news , boring Go ahead .

Speaker 2 28:06

Okay , venice's great council begins choosing the doge , its ruler . The role is for life , so to limit power , the council picks old men who won't live long . Parenthetical text it works uh , okay .

Speaker 1 28:22

Well , that's clearly gonna be between 2600 bce and 1813 , so we're gonna put that at like 1500 11 oh . So , you're still correct , you're still getting all of these right , but just not your side quest game , which is I feel like the last thing that we did , the last iteration of this game we did it grouped everything all together within a period of like 50 years and made it very difficult . These are like thousands of years apart , so this is a lot easier .

Speaker 2 28:53

All right . The Texas pilot , bessie Coleman helps popularize barnstorming with her aerial stunts . For one of them , she walks on her biplanes wings in midair .

Speaker 1 29:03

Okay , so biplanes would be circa 1936 .

Speaker 2 29:10

Did we watch Carl Pilkington do this ?

Speaker 1 29:12

We did , somebody did this . Pilkington got up on a wing 1936? . Yep , is that right ?

Speaker 2 29:17

1922 .

Speaker 1 29:19

Close 1922 biplanes All right , go ahead .

Speaker 2 29:24

To end their second war over Kashmir . India and Pakistan make the Tashkent Declaration . They vow to settle their disputes without violence .

Speaker 1 29:34

Yeah , how's that working out for them right now ? Not well , I have no idea . This could be hundreds of years ago Well , no , it couldn't , because Pakistan hasn't been around that long . But this could be last week or this could be 10 years ago . I'm going to say that it is probably after 1973 . So we're going to say 1980 . It's probably later than that 1966 . Damn wrong Frick . Okay 1966 , India , Pakistan . Have you seen the video ? Did I show you the video of the changing the guards at the India-Pakistan border ?

Speaker 1 30:11

Yes , I feel like you did , where it basically looks like a dance-off .

Speaker 2 30:15

Yes , yes , yes , like you did , where it basically looks like a dance-off .

Speaker 1 30:16

Yes , yes , yes , you did if you want to , I guess , look back on a more peaceful time between the two nations , where how they settled their disputes was dance-offs , then you should look for that video having been jailed in siberia for subversive activity , doostoevsky draws on his prison experience to write the very , very long novel Crime and Punishment .

Speaker 2 30:39

I ad-libbed it very , very long 1850 .

Speaker 1 30:42

That's probably later than that . Oh damn it , I don't freaking know , oh shit , 1900 . Okay , 1866 .

Speaker 2 30:54

Okay , 1866 . Okay . So I still got that you said 1850 to start with , didn't ?

Speaker 1 31:00

you ? Yeah , I did and I blinked .

Speaker 2 31:02

Two more , but you still did get that one . To escape the control of the US government , Mormon settlers found Salt Lake City . They choose the area because it's a part of Mexico . Didn't know that .

Speaker 1 31:16

Mormons , what is that like 19 ?

Speaker 2 31:21

I have no idea what's his name Joseph Smith . What's the guy's name ?

Speaker 1 31:25

Yeah , I think so . Is that like 1950 , maybe , maybe .

Speaker 2 31:31

I don't know , friend , yeah , we'll go with that 1950 . So you're saying between barnstorming and Kashmir .

Speaker 1 31:38

That is correct 1847 . Damn . All right , it's too wrong .

Speaker 2 31:44

Too wrong . All right , here's your last one , ready .

Speaker 1 31:45

Yeah , go ahead .

Speaker 2 31:47

Named for a Roman god , the priest Mercurius , becomes the first pope to rename himself . Upon taking office , he picks a less pagan name Pope John II .

Speaker 1 31:59

We're going to go with 1600s .

Speaker 2 32:05

Okay , so before the Venice Council , and I mean after the Venice Council and before blowing up the White House .

Speaker 1 32:14

Yes 533 . Damn it . I didn't , it was a rough week for you .

Speaker 2 32:19

in the flashbacks you got five out of eight correct .

Speaker 1 32:22

I did not do . Well , I don't know my history of the Far and middle east . I don't really know my italian history . So there we go . Now I know what to study okay .

Speaker 2 32:36

So here real quick , is all of the reason why these were in the new york times flashback this week . Chinese shipments to the united states have plunged but have spiked to southeast , as that was the Holling Stones Day . Holling Stones Day , holling Stones Day To the world . He's now Pope Leo , the what is this 14th ? To his friends ? He's just Bob . I would like to point out that I saw something yesterday that said

Flashbacks Game: Anchoring Historical Events

Speaker 2 32:59

just so you all know , you're about to honor a chosen name for the next , however long , so you're able to do it , you can get on board with it .

Speaker 1 33:09

So , yes , we have an American Pope , and I'm sure that everyone is all a flutter about that one way or the other . I was trying to figure out what I think about that , because initially I was like I liked the fact that we always had a Pope that was not American , so that he would feel free to criticize any sort of policies that he thought were that he'd be a separate entity , right ? Not that I'm Catholic or anything , but the Pope does command respect over a large group of people and so in that way , it's an authority , it's a power structure , and it's always good to be separate , to be able to criticize , you know , authority or power , and and so I thought that this kind of muddies the waters a little bit . But who knows ? But who knows ? He seems to be a rather um , liberal chap concerned with social justice that's a good way of saying it .

Speaker 2 34:05

All right , some other things out of the new york times . Great salt lake is drying up . Did you know that ? I ?

Speaker 1 34:09

did not . We'll have to ask our buddy , antonio , about that .

Speaker 2 34:12

And the Oscars will add a new category for stunt design in films . That was the barnstorming for you .

Speaker 1 34:17

Oh , very good Okay .

Speaker 2 34:21

A proposed NASA budget would to a mission to Mars . There's your space station one . So if you do the flashbacks and then when you're done , it'll tell you how those events have an anchor in whatever current events are happening right now .

Speaker 1 34:35

Very good , thank you . No one likes to be told what to do , and now is the time in the program where we tell you what to do . Amanda , what should we do ?

Speaker 2 34:44

I think you should explore digital gardening .

Digital Gardening and Final Thoughts

Speaker 1 34:50

Is this a term that you have heard of ? Is it a game like no , no , no , no , all right , go ahead it's ?

Speaker 2 34:55

I learned about it this week . It's a metaphorical approach to curating and sharing personal knowledge or ideas online , so it's supposed to be an anecdote for doom scrolling . So , instead of just sitting there and scrolling and scrolling and watching all of the reels and all the TikToks and just getting further down the rabbit hole , it's a way of when you find , say , you come across a video on a sourdough bread starter , right , instead of just saving that and moving on , you drop it into your digital garden and there are apps that do this and then you can kind of web things to it . So when you see a recipe somewhere , you can put it in your digital garden for sourdough starting , and it's a way of curating stuff that makes it more of an active creation than just passive information taking in . It reminds me of what I think the idea of Pinterest was in the very beginning , where you're collecting all of this stuff and putting it on your boards . To do something with Pinterest now is just giant ads and it's really , really frustrating . So it's this idea of focusing on growth and your personal voice . The apps that you use , like Obsidian Roam Research I just downloaded Craft to do it because it's a little more aesthetically pleasing , but they have interactive designs .

Speaker 2 36:07

I can't really collaborate on them . I could see how they would be helpful if you were collaborating with people on like project management , but this is more . Just when you're laying in bed at night and you see something like I want to build a raised garden bed for my garden , you start to curate that piece of your digital garden . I think it's interesting . I'm going to try it .

Speaker 1 36:27

Oh , you've not started yet , because I would have to see what you're talking about . To know what you're talking about . Okay , well , that sounds interesting . Join us on that journey . Do you already have a digital garden ? Do you know what Amanda's talking about ? Let me know FamiliarWilson's at gmailcom . All right , Amanda . That's all there is . There is no more . What do you think of that mess ? And boy , was it a mess .

Speaker 2 36:56

Yeah , sorry , I can't help it . Soccer was canceled today because we had thunderstorms and hail which apparently never showed up . Did you know we're supposed to get light hail today ? No , I did not know that that was in the forecast . I'm very disappointed . Thunderstorms and light hail .

Speaker 1 37:08

We were in the hail village today .

Speaker 2 37:10

Different hails , oh got it .

Speaker 1 37:12

All right . Well , we cannot get out of here without thanking those people for whom we have thanks . I don't know .

Speaker 2 37:21

I was going to say the bell tolls and I don't know why .

Speaker 1 37:24

No , those people without whom we would not be able to do this . So we want to thank in no particular order , because you know , time is a spiral Matt , who designs blueprints with crayons . Antonio , who speaks in hushed tones . Josh Scar , who is closed on Tuesdays , danny Buckets Danny , do not lick the frogs again . Chicken Tom , who clucks twice in approval . Monique , from Germany , makes it to brunch on time . Joey , joey , refined . Gay . Jeff , who comes with velvet ropes and complimentary cocktails . Mark and Rachel , with all the jazz hands and inexplicable giggles . And Dan and Gavin . We are still looking for the End of the rainbow . So thank you all very , very much , and we love you .

Speaker 2 38:17

Love you Go , be kind Bye , thank you .