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Personal Trainer, Asia Cornwall, Is Not "Playing Wit It", When It Comes To Her Commitment to Fitness
Listening to Personal Trainer, Asia Cornwall, talk about fitness, makes you want to go to the gym and work it out. As Asia recounts her evolution from a track athlete to a fitness guru, she reveals the mental paradigm shift that accompanied her journey, emphasizing that the real measure of progress lies not with the scale but with the inner transformations we undergo. Asia also discusses the myths when it comes to weight training and how lifting heavy is the key to seeing a transformation.
Our final chapter is an ode to empowerment, spotlighting fitness as a catalyst for personal strength and confidence, particularly for women. Asia speaks to the trepidation many feel when stepping into a gym but promises an encouraging truth: the focus is on personal goals, not on judgmental onlookers. With the mantra "Don't play with it", she drives home the importance of taking fitness aspirations seriously.
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Welcome to LAGO. My name is Lisa. Join me on the journey in having real raw and uncomfortable discussions about fitness, health and everything in between, because, let's be honest, this journey would suck if we don't get our shit together. Welcome back to the LAGO podcast. My name is Lisa and I am your host.
Speaker 2:As you know by now, lago is all about fitness, health and everything in between. It's a podcast for women to learn more about their fitness, mental health and wellness, to become the best versions of themselves. We also have to think about the women who are in the fitness industry that are helping us become the best versions of ourselves. They also have their own challenges that they have to navigate through in a male dominating industry. So with that, I welcome Asia Cornwall. She is an athlete, a personal trainer at iGrind 365. Of course, I gotta say that and it's currently training for a bodybuilding competition in the wellness division. Welcome, asia. Hello, we're making this happen. So, yes, well, first of all, I didn't even think about asking you this question. Your first name, like that's so unique. What do you? What's the origin Like? Why did your parents choose that name?
Speaker 1:Honestly, I have no idea. So, like my mom, chose the name Asia, and then my middle name is Genesis, and like my dad, chose that name. But I honestly I wish my first name was Genesis. I feel like that, just like blows so much better, like I don't know, but I like the name Asia, I guess, but I like Genesis a little better.
Speaker 2:Very unique, both very unique names. I love it. Okay, so let's talk about what inspired you to become a personal trainer and how did your journey begin? Like, did you have a transformation? Like, how did it all go about?
Speaker 1:So basically I used to run track. I ran track for like nine years. So I started when I was in middle school and then I was a junior in college I tore my Achilles, so up until that point that basically like set me back in that kind of like mess with my head a little bit. But eventually I kind of just like stopped feeling sorry for myself and I was like, hey, let me just continue like working out, just so I don't like lose sight of like training and like what I love to do. So then I think personal training, it kind of just like stuck with me because I love to work out.
Speaker 1:So I was like you know why not kind of like encourage more people to get into fitness and not just for like the fitness aspect of it is more like a mental thing, because I don't think people realize like when you train, it's like it helps you mentally, it kind of like grounds you and keeps you disciplined. So I think I kind of wanted to like share that with other people and I feel like my the best thing for me when it comes to personal training is like when I hear people say I feel so much better about myself, like I look so much better, like I'm so much happier, like I feel like I can move way better, so like I feel like that's really why I love personal training and it's just like something that I've been doing for so long. So it's like why kind of change my direction in a career when I've been doing this for so long? And I just like love hearing what other people have to say about like my personal training and like how I've helped them Otherwise.
Speaker 2:I love that. So the other thing I wanted to say was I okay, first of all, if anyone comes and looks on your Instagram page, her body slamming okay, slamming. I showed your, your, some of your photos to my daughter. She's like, she's like mom, look at her body, look at her booty. And you did a before and after girl, that was so inspiring. Okay, you did a before and after picture. I was like, oh shit, she built that up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. I'm like it's crazy, I don't know. I just I feel like this is the one thing, like how I said. Like it it's like a grounding experience, because it definitely does draw me and it keeps me like on track and it's just something I really love to do, like I just don't know why, like it just makes me so happy.
Speaker 2:I could tell. I could tell that that's you love it, just like you're talking about it and your face is just brightening you know brightening up. So I love that, okay. So let's get down to some of these, the serious questions. Okay, can you share some common misconceptions or even myths about fitness that you encounter frequently in your work? Like, what are some of the things that you know people think about? Maybe even personal trainers even think about being a woman and trying to get fit, like just let's just talk about some of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I want to say, like a lot of people think training like they're immediately gonna like lose weight, but that's not how it works. Like we, we are weight fluctuates so much, we have like water weight, like stress weight and a lot of that. And I feel like sometimes people are like, oh well, I'm not losing weight. I'm like I don't want you to look at the scale. Like looking at the scale is such a toxic like thing. It literally messes with your head so much like I don't even weigh myself Because I know what it's gonna do to me. So what I do is I just measure myself. Like I take measurements every single week to kind of see like, for example, like my waist, if your waist is shrinking, like that's a sign that you're you're losing fat, so that's a good thing. But I just like feel like when people are like, oh, I'm not losing weight, like I'm not doing the correct things, it's like no, like you don't need to always look at the scale.
Speaker 2:You know, I was gonna think you also. Well, you sharing the fact. Okay, cuz this is also a myth. Like everyone thinks that personal trainers, or if you think about any type of you know Athlete, like oh well, they, they got it going on, like they don't need to be looking at the scale, like you just said that even you, like you said, like even me, I'm an athlete, I was an athlete, I'm a personal trainer, I don't even look at the scale because it's it, can you know, fuck with your head, especially as women, right? So like that is also a myth in this conception that you're just as you're just one of us. You're like.
Speaker 1:I know and I get and literally people are like, oh, you don't have any like problems with your body. I'm like we all have body dysmorphia, especially if you start working out. It's like, yeah, you're. You may think, or people may think, that you think there's nothing wrong with you. But you know, we all have our like, we all have our areas where we want to be perfect in and I feel Like people are just. I feel like people. It's hard people to take advice from me when I say, oh, like I don't have any um. Or people feel like it's hard to take advice me when I say I look a certain way and I don't like what. I like some parts of my body and everything. So I'm like, no, like I get insecure about my body, but I mean I kind of just, it's just how it is, it's just well with it.
Speaker 2:Well, after seeing that photo, that before and after, I was like girl, she's just like us. Oh, she's built, she's building, she's committed. So what? What are other myths or misconceptions Do you normally face, you know or hear from women when you are training them, whether it is to lose weight or, I don't know, build muscles? What are some of the things you hear?
Speaker 1:Okay a lot. I used to be this way too. I'm gonna say I used to think that, like lifting weights would like make me like bulky and like manly, and that's not true. Like you can't expect to like see results in your body if you're just like You're not increasing, you're not progressively, progressively overloading your weight, which means increasing your weight each week, or even like switching up variations of how you train. So I think that is my biggest thing is like no, lifting weights is not gonna make you bulky. You're like I promise you and you will have to lift heavy to get a fat butt. Like that's just how it is. You know you can't squat 135 pounds every single week and think that you're gonna grow like that's just now how it works. Like, trust me, I used to do that too.
Speaker 1:Before I started to like really really get into fitness, all I would ever do was hit workouts Like yes, I lost a lot of weight. Like I was very slim, but that's not how I wanted to, like you know, continue to train. So I was like you know, I want to put muscle on. I want to look like healthy and thick, obviously. So I started to like train heavier and I just I just hate when women say it's gonna be, because it's not.
Speaker 2:I Gotta say again, I love that and there's a there's somebody else that I know of that works with you at I grind 365. That had like a transformation, like story, you know, and to see that you know you had a transformation of building your booty. I'm the honest with you people don't believe that that shit can be grown. They did, they go yeah, you ain't gonna be able to grow that. You can grow it. Um, and no women will. Probably it makes them feel good to work with someone like you because you understand, you know to build and and to become something that you want to be. You know work on your body.
Speaker 2:So I think that I'm sure a lot of women gravitate to you to know that you had this transformation with your body Because, I think again, they think you know if you're an athlete, that you're perfect, that you're thinking like, oh, you shouldn't have a problem. Why you got a problem? Go eat that burger. Well, you know you shouldn't have a problem, eat that burger. You know which I'm sure people I've said to you oh, you can eat whatever you want. Asia, yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I can't like. Yeah, like now, in my off season, I have more freedom to, like you know, eat what I want, do what I want, but I still like to stay on track, just because, like, I have goals. You know what I'm saying exactly, I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, so let's talk about, let's switch gears here. So you, as a woman in the fitness industry, and I, you know, I, when I wrote down male Dominating, I said to myself is it still male dominating?
Speaker 2:I don't know, is it? I mean, I Still see a lot more men that are personal trainers out there, but I I am seeing a lot more women coming up the ranks as well. But, with that being said, have you faced any unique challenges, or even Stereotized, being a woman of color? I mean, have you? You know, how did you navigate through them?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, honestly, I have, like I want you ask me this, like I Feel like I like telling this story just because I don't know people think, like I guess people will look at me Like, oh, she's never had any issues in our life like this time of third, but like that's not true. I graduated high school in 2017 and I went to my, I went to undergrad and I graduated in 2021 and then, right after that, I went to get my master's in Kansas and so I was a graduate assistant there and I worked in the strength and conditioning department, which that is a very male dominant field, and I worked with a bunch of, like you know, white men in. I think that experience that I like faced honestly made me a lot stronger because, for example, like I went out there Not knowing anything, I had no idea, like it was just like I had two weeks to decide if I wanted to go and, of course, mom was, like Asia, you're gonna go there and you're gonna get your master's. Like you might as well just say yes. So I just said yes and I literally I didn't have a car, I didn't know a single soul out there in Kansas. Like I didn't know Kansas was a state. I did not know Kansas was a state, like I had no idea what Kansas was.
Speaker 1:But I just, you know, I took the risk and I went out there and I worked with a couple of like grown men and you know, when you are in a fields where men feel like they know everything and they're like Super, just like dominant, and then you see, like a female come in and a black female, in that way, you know, you get I. I didn't say like yes, I wasn't, I was taking advantage of, but like I was also like talked down on and like they kind of like belittled me in ways and like I remember there's one instance when, like one of the coaches Got into my face and like curse me out because I like I said something and I wasn't necessarily talking to him. So I like said I'm not talking to you. Then he just like flipped a switch and got in my face, like in front of all the athletes and everything, and of course, like I I didn't say anything right then, and there in that moment, cuz like there was a bunch of athletes around and like I've really just I was so mad, so I just need to take a breather, and then I left the situation but then the next day, like you know, I obviously like said what I had to say when we were not like around all the athletes.
Speaker 1:But um, yeah, just that whole experience, it was like every single day. It was like walking on eggshells, being with them, just because if I said something it was like immediately shot down. You know I'm saying so. It's like it was so uncomfortable for me. I remember I would literally like go home and like cry and call my mom, cuz it was just like so it was such a toxic environment, like so toxic.
Speaker 1:And my one friend like I, she was a female there too, but she she was, um, she wasn't a graduate assistant, she was something else, like a graduate, something else. But you know, she was by my side the whole time too, like I had. I had good friends out there, for sure. That like looked out for me. But the end of the day, like I, I didn't have like family like that. You know so and really know them when I first got there as well as I do now. But like, anyways, back to the weight room. So Just being in that area, just being in that environment, it was just like very, very shitty, like they really like just put me down every single day. But I'm grateful for that experience because, like you know, I know how to stand up for myself, which I've always had because, like you know, my parents raised me to like always stand up for myself. So I did that. But I think the experience that I went through like made me into a stronger person, and so I'm grateful for it.
Speaker 2:Hmm, I love that. Yeah, I mean, you know, when we think about this industry, um, I think the first thing I think about is testosterone. You know, how dare you? Um, so it's, I will say, you're right, you know, toughens you up, like toughens you up, and it gets you ready for even, like potential client, that things they can run all over you, you know. So, okay, so let's go into your prepping. You know you're currently prepping for a competition, right, okay, and when is that like, when's that going down?
Speaker 1:So my competition is in July, so it'll be national. So I only competed in one show so far, and the first show that I competed in was in Florida, and if you place first or second in your class you automatically get to go to national. So I complete competed last year in July. I'm basically taking, like I guess, a year off to grow, so I don't start cutting until next month. So right now I'm like in a bulking phase, but I start cutting in March and then that should be like a 20 week cut. My show was in July in Vegas, so I'm so excited. So that'll be nationals. I'm really really like going to try and get my pro card. So I'm just gonna like really work hard for that and see what happens.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you said a couple of terms that maybe a lot of people don't know. Let's first start with bulking. What does that mean?
Speaker 1:So bulking is basically you're just like trying to grow. You're in a growing phase. You're trying to put on more muscle mass. You're eating like. My calories are at like 3300 calories every single day. So, yeah, it's hard for me to eat like you were like oh my god. It's hard to eat that much for real.
Speaker 1:It's like so I basically have like I guess you can. I eat seven different things every single day, so, and then I get two cheat meals a week, so it's like food. I'm just constantly eating, like I'm never hungry, which is a good thing. You know I'm gonna take advantage of it, cause when I start cutting like I know, I'm gonna be hungry, so Right, okay, so cutting, cutting.
Speaker 2:What is that now?
Speaker 1:So that's when I'm just like cutting calories, I'll be doing lots of cardio. So cardio consists like last year when I was doing a cut, my cardio was at like sprints in the morning, fast at sprints, so I don't eat before I do my sprints. And then, about halfway throughout my cut, I started to do the stair master for 40 minutes every morning. So I don't know if you guys know what the stair master is, but that's the machine that literally like stairs, like you walk up in the gym, and I was doing that for 40 minutes like every single day.
Speaker 2:So that's why she got big booty. Um so, so Well, let me see this Cause I didn't. I don't always understand this myself, so I don't get it. So, like you, you get big to build up the muscle mass, yes, and then I don't. I guess, what's the, what's the signs between two, what's the signs with that? So you get big and then you cut, like, what are you trying to do?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So basically it's like once you start cutting, you start cutting fat. So right now I'm not technically in a fat loss phase, I'm more in like a building muscle phase. So I'm trying to grow, grow, grow and basically when you cut like you have a chance of losing muscle mass. So you don't want to lose the muscle mass, you want to try and keep the muscle mass and like lean out your muscles to make like more striation, show like the leanness. So like an example of a leanness is like if you see like a girl's hamstrings, like in a competition, and you see like the lines and like the tie ins right underneath the glute, like that's basically what like the leanness is, and you see like shoulders like super, super, cut and shredded like six pack. That's pretty much what it is. So like bulking. I'm not really in a phase of like looking lean, you know, because I'm trying to put on muscle right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's pretty cool. The other thing I wanted to ask you is because I've interviewed another woman who did, who was doing a lot of competitions, and we talked a little bit about that. But talk about like the mental head game with that, like that's no joke. I don't think people get that, and can you just talk a little bit about that, like, if someone is asking you, like why I don't get it, what's the mental portion or what's the mental part about this competition? Like, what is it?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So honestly I would say, the bulking phase of my competition is not hard. Like you're, honestly, you're just living life. Like you're eating more, your carbs are high, your protein's high. Like you get more about, like more freedom, I would say, but once you start cutting, like that's when it's just like a mind fucking thing for you, like it really is. And once you get down to like the last couple of weeks of your prep, it's like just straight, just like just locked and loaded, like you're just locked in, you have no distractions, like nothing around you. It's like you're just so focused on this one goal of like just getting to the finish line.
Speaker 2:I remember like one time.
Speaker 1:I'm also like I cry a lot, like I cry when I get mad, Like that's my biggest thing. And I remember or not necessarily well, yes, when I get mad, but I remember it was like two weeks left of my competition and I was on the Stairmaster and I had my waist trainer on and I don't know what came over me, but like I was like dying. I was literally dying and I had to stop on the Stairmaster, take a second like breathe. And I ran into the cycling room and just started to cry like bull my eyes out, cause I was like, oh my God, I don't know if I can do this anymore. Like it was just hard.
Speaker 1:Like your calories are so low, Like you're barely eating. You're still trying to live heavy your cardio. It's like when people talk to you it's like you're zoned out, like you don't want to talk to anybody. Your energy is low, like that's. One thing I struggled with is like my energy was so low cause like I was a track grad assistant, so this was before I was in or after I was in the weight room, so I was a track grad assistant trying to like finish my master's. I was working at Applebee's like a server, so I was always on my feet and then, like, I spent hours at the gym. So it was just crazy, like, oh my God, it's a mental challenge for sure, and I think people don't think that they were like, oh, like, oh, it's so fun to be lean. Like, yeah, it's fun, I guess, but it's like it takes a lot to get to that point.
Speaker 2:Well, I love how you just said get to the finish line. It's a competition.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a competition, like you are training and you're training for it's the same concept of training for a marathon. So you use the whole summer, your whole summer is dedicated to this damn marathon, and then you hurt yourself, like all those months that you put in. So you know it's the same thing, it's a competition, and you are just like focused on getting to that point so that you can compete and get to where you want to be. The other word you said was pro-card. What does that mean?
Speaker 1:So you become like a professional bodybuilder, which is really what I want to do. It's like IFBB Pro and then like your name. So that's like something like I'm really working, really working towards and I feel like I can definitely do it, but it's just like you really just have to work hard. It really just comes down to you putting in the work, like there's nothing else that anybody else can do for you. Like it'll show. You know what I'm saying. So that's like also why I love it, because it's like a challenge against myself. It's like you're in a competition against yourself, like you're trying to beat your previous look. So I think that's like.
Speaker 1:That's why I love it. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. Okay, so let's talk about the importance and you kind of touched upon this the importance of strength training for women's overall health and well-being. So how did you like, for instance, you brought up the whole idea or the fact that some women would think, oh, if I lift weights, I'm gonna get big. So if you have a client that's like that, how do you go about, like, bringing in the weight training? Like you got this woman saying, oh no, I don't wanna be looking like a man, and then you have to explain to them how important it is, like how do you incorporate it into their training plan?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So basically, like what I'll do is like I'll do like strength training on some days and then like I'll kind of incorporate like hit workouts too. But a lot of my clients like they, they trust that I'm gonna like help them as much as, like you know, they need to be helped or they want to be helped. So I've never had a client say like I don't wanna lift heavy because I don't wanna look like a man. Like a lot of my clients are actually ooh, like they wanna lift heavy. So I'm like this is what I love to see. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So I think it's becoming more like that Like I don't hear it as much as I did in the past, but I think more women are. It's badass, man, If you go freaking like bench press all that way. It's badass, so I'm glad that you're seeing that change All right. So let's talk about some of your success stories or transformations from your clients that you found, that you found that were inspiring or memorable.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I would say right now, you know that we're doing the 12 week transformation challenge. So I have this one client her name is Melanie and she came in. She was like very nervous about like training, everything. Like she said that she's had like a big transformation before, but she was just struggling to like get back into the gym. But it's been, I think, like four weeks so far and I'm gonna say like you can see a complete like she looks a lot different, like she's losing weight.
Speaker 1:She I was like telling her this the other day. I was like I can't even see that the way that you move is just so much better. You know cause not just training just won't make you stronger and make you look better, but like it'll help you in the long run with like your mobility and how you just move, how you function. And that's one thing I want people to know too is like when you get older, like this training, this training business, will actually help you. Like you won't get her picking up a box. You know what I'm saying. So if you start, if you start training now, like you're gonna see the benefits of it when you get older.
Speaker 1:But I just get like I also sell workout programs online and I had this one girl who bought a workout program. She was like, oh my God, like this workout program is so good, like one thing I wanted to do was like you know, she said something about her back, like I think train her back, or something like that. She was like my back just feels so much stronger, like I just feel so much better working out now, and I was telling her like you can send me videos and everything. So I think that that type of stuff is like what really or really does it for me? It's just seeing, like people I guess their results and like hearing how they feel and everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So yeah, you know it is important you want to avoid the walker when you're in your 50s.
Speaker 1:No, seriously.
Speaker 2:I mean 70s. You don't want to be on a walker. You know, the stronger you are, the less possibility that's going to happen. So I want to keep running until I can run anymore. Yeah, exactly, like okay. So what advice do you have for women who may feel intimidated or unsure about starting a fitness journey and how can they overcome those feelings? So I will say, most of the women, especially women that I work with, they are very hesitant to go to the gym because of everybody looks a certain way and it's intimidating. And you know, here you have, like I don't know, a housewife or a woman, a middle-aged woman, with her little t-shirt and her jogging pants on and she's like I don't know if I fit in there, like I don't know if I belong there. Like what advice would you give that woman who's unsure and thinking like I'm not for the gym, like what would you say to them?
Speaker 1:Honestly, this is the one thing I would say. I was like you have to start. Like you have to start. There's no, nobody's going to do it for you. Like you know, you have to be that person that's going to push yourself. You have to be that number one person, like telling yourself, like you know how they say the angel and the devil and like all that stuff. Like you have to be both sides, like yeah, it's frustrating and it's scary, but you have to get out of your comfort zone and look at how people like I don't know.
Speaker 1:I just would say, like you just have to start, you just have to start Like, yeah, it's uncomfortable, but if you want the results and like you want to see a change, you just have to do it. A lot of things are like not easy in life, but that's just how life is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just gotta do it, gotta take that first baby step, and I will say that. I will say this now Now I'm plugging the gym that you work at. Um, I Will say that. Um, you know, gyms can be intimidating, but when you go into a place that your trainers are friendly, nice, not looking at you with Attitude or like they don't have time for you, and that's that makes a difference.
Speaker 2:When you walk into a gym and people are like hey, how are you? You know how can I help you? And it's a friendly atmosphere. It does make you feel a little bit more comfortable. So you know, I will say that about the gym that you work at. There's everyone so friendly and down to earth and that makes a huge difference.
Speaker 1:One more thing about, like, if somebody's feeling uncomfortable in the gym because I just thought about this but if you think about it, like the people that are in the gym, like right then and there, like they probably went through the same thing that like that person did. You know, I'm saying so. It's like, yes, we all struggle with something, but you know, like I said, those people probably went through the same thing. So you kind of just got to take that first step and just, you know, go for it. And another thing is is like when you're in a gym, a lot of people are not worried about what you're doing, they're just focused on their specific goals. And I promise you, like I should think this too like, oh my god, people are saying me no, nobody's staring you, they're focused on their self. So that's the one thing I wanted to say, but that's it.
Speaker 2:That is so true. I wanted to also ask you Okay, I was looking at your Instagram. I didn't understand this. You use this term. Don't play with it. What are we talking about?
Speaker 1:What are we talking about.
Speaker 2:We're talking about the booty. Don't play with the booty. What are we saying?
Speaker 1:I'm actually wearing my don't play with it hoodie. Now I sell these. Now I just okay. I literally just started saying that to myself when I started to like train for my competition. I was like Asia, you better not play with it. You better get this done, just don't play with it. So it's literally just Just don't play with it.
Speaker 2:So that's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, she is. She is selling her merch. I saw that online. Um, where can we find you? I know you're like. Now I see you on your own tick tock your Instagram. Is it the same? Asia Genesis fit for all of those.
Speaker 1:So my tick tock is just Asia AAA, like at the end underscore seven. It's like yeah, I don't know why I have everything so different, but um, and then, like my facebook, is just my first and last name Asia Cornwall. Um, I have a youtube channel. It's just Asia Cornwall. So I'm going to start doing more youtube too. So once I start that, I'm gonna. I'm excited for that one.
Speaker 2:Well, everyone check her links out. Like I said, you're gonna go onto her instagram. She's, she's blowing it up. It's very inspiring I gotta say extremely inspiring um, and you know we'll put all the links on the the show notes, um, so that if you need to get a hold of her, like she said, she not only does one-on-one Personal training at the gym, she also has virtual programs, so you can check that out, um. But with that, thank you so much for being a part of this.
Speaker 1:Thank you for having me. What I was telling with that is he was like, oh, that's so cool, like she does, like woman empowerment stuff. I was like, yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:So Sure, do no, all right. Well, thank you so much for being a part of this, and thank you everyone for listening and until next time.
Speaker 1:Bye, bye, thank you.