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Alaska: Treasured Pieces from the Last Frontier (with Jay Marquiss)

Crista Cowan | The Barefoot Genealogist Season 2 Episode 70

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Jay Marquiss:

The next thing, I know we were landing and it was a really hard landing and it was in snow and the plane was on skis and, anyway, they hand us the guns, hand us the guns. And we jumped out and we shot this moose and then, after of course they shot it, reality hit and we were stuck.

Crista Cowan:

Stories that Live In Us is a podcast that inspires you to form deep connections with your family, past, present and future. I'm Crista Cowan, known online as The Barefoot Genealogist. Counting down to the upcoming celebration of America's 250th birthday, you'll meet families from each state whose stories are woven into the very fabric of America Tales of immigration, migration, courage and community that remind us that when we tell our stories, we strengthen the bonds that connect us. So join me for season two as we discover, from sea to shining sea, the stories that live in us.

Crista Cowan:

I have been to Alaska three times. The first time, it was a random day in the summer of 2013, when my brother called me up and said what are you doing next Tuesday? I don't know. Want to go to Alaska? Okay, so we did. It was over the 4th of July. An interesting fact about Alaska on the 4th of July is it doesn't get dark and so they don't do fireworks, which was a little disappointing, but it was a lovely way to spend that holiday week with my brother and I fell in love with Alaska the glaciers, the ruggedness of it, the history, the people. There was just so much about Alaska to love the people. There was just so much about Alaska to love.

Crista Cowan:

I took another trip a couple years later for my mom's 65th birthday, and then last summer. If you remember the episode of the podcast with my nibblings, you know that when I had the opportunity to take all of them on a vacation, I chose Alaska and I was so excited to introduce them to that place. Of course they've been to my house, they've seen the pictures in my bathroom of the glaciers that I took and they knew how special this place was to me and I was a little scared to introduce them to it, because you ever have that moment where you're like what if something I love isn't loved by the people I love, but they also, I think, fell in love with it. Well, my guest today is my friend Jay, and Jay is a third generation Alaskan and he grew up doing all of the typical Alaskan things, thought he would spend his life in Alaska, but life had other plans. Interestingly enough, as he tells his story, you'll hear about how he has brought a piece of Alaska with him wherever he's gone.

Crista Cowan:

Enjoy my conversation with my friend, jay Marquis. Thank you so much for being here. You and I have known each other. We've been neighbors for like 20 years, yeah long time.

Crista Cowan:

And I had no idea until recently that you grew up in Alaska. Yeah, so tell me what was? I've been to Alaska three times, love it so much, but what was it like to?

Jay Marquiss:

grow up there and it depends on which part of Alaska you visited. Well, I've been to.

Crista Cowan:

Anchorage and Juneau, okay, and then, of course, cruising through the inside, because Juneau is completely different than Anchorage.

Jay Marquiss:

I mean it's like from here to Texas kind of thing. I grew up in Anchorage, I was born and raised there and lived there all my life. I expected to live there the rest of my life. I met Kim, my wife of course, at BYU. We married. We drove to Alaska for our honeymoon because we were broke. How long of a drive is that it's from Anchorage to Provo or Provo to Anchorage, it's 3,450 miles.

Crista Cowan:

Which takes how long?

Jay Marquiss:

The fastest I've done it I've driven it 13 times. The fastest I've done it is in three days, and that was just nonstop with a couple of roommates and we took, I think, five or six days, the two of us.

Crista Cowan:

So 3,400 miles, is that longer up top to bottom than it is across the country?

Jay Marquiss:

I think so Wow A little bit yeah.

Crista Cowan:

Nobody has any concept of the size of Alaska, do they? They?

Jay Marquiss:

don't no. Two and a half times the size of Texas. It's massive and most of it's just wilderness.

Crista Cowan:

Wow.

Jay Marquiss:

And so, yeah, it's an adventure, but I didn't know any different. That's what. That's how I grew up. I grew up hunting. The weather was just normal to me. The long summers we would play into the night because it never got dark, and then winters you were used to the darkness, and so that's how I grew up. So I expected to live my life there, married. Kim took her up there. She went through one winter and she said I'm not doing this.

Crista Cowan:

Oh.

Jay Marquiss:

So back to college, and we've never left.

Crista Cowan:

Well, there you go. So you were born there because your parents were living there. What took your parents?

Jay Marquiss:

there. My parents had adventurous parents. So my grandparents, both separately, just went up when they were newlyweds and or had young families. So my mother was born in Idaho, my dad in Oregon and their parents took them up when they were younger. They met in high school, became high school sweethearts and married right out of high school and lived there another 50 years, raised their family there. I love that. So yeah, and what was it that took your grandparents there?

Crista Cowan:

Like they just decided to have an adventure. They just decided to have an adventure. Okay, and what was it that took your grandparents there? Like they just decided to have an adventure?

Jay Marquiss:

They just decided to have an adventure, okay, and just went up and and fell in love with it, and fell in love with it, okay, yeah.

Crista Cowan:

And so your parents went in high school and you're a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Yes, were you raised in that faith? I was Okay.

Jay Marquiss:

And were parents, and no, they were not. I'm not exactly sure when my grandfather joined the church, because I don't. I always thought he was, and my dad joined the church in about 1960 and after I was born, and that's part of this story, kind of thing.

Crista Cowan:

Tell me about how your dad came to join the church.

Jay Marquiss:

Well, I think the missionaries came over and introduced themselves and started to visit and my dad loved the missionaries. They always had them over, they fed them. They fed them for years and as a child I remember missionaries always coming to the house and they would always feed them. Dad joined the church but didn't really become active until the mid-60s kind of thing early to mid-60s and so always had a connection with missionaries. Because there was a missionary and he's instrumental in this story. His name was Pat Bryan and he was up in Alaska in 1959 and 60, I believe.

Crista Cowan:

So right before your dad joined the church or about the same time?

Jay Marquiss:

Yes, he was influential also, my dad joining the church. And he came back to Alaska and I met him in 1976. And he was a federal judge and he was coming up there to do some work. And he was coming up there to do some work and I came out of the ward building and we had back in those days we had three wards.

Crista Cowan:

It was all we had, and then there was a ward in Fairbank which, in our faith, is a congregation.

Jay Marquiss:

Is a congregation, yep, correct, and we just had one building. But I came out of the building and dad was talking to this man out on the front curb and I didn't know who he was. So I just walked up and stood there waiting for my dad and I had a question and we hadn't driven together but I had a question, so I was waiting and he turned and he said oh, let me introduce you to this man. This is Pat Bryan. He was a missionary here 25 years ago or whatever it was. And so he introduced me and dad said Jay is waiting for a mission call. I was going to go serve a two-year mission for the church and he said do you have your call? And I said no and he said I know where you're going. And I kind of looked at him and he said they just opened a mission in Utah. You're going to go to Utah.

Jay Marquiss:

On a mission, on a mission, and I said they're all Mormons, I'll go anywhere but Utah. And sure enough, I got a call to Utah and came and served here.

Crista Cowan:

But you got to meet this missionary. That was influential.

Jay Marquiss:

I got to meet this missionary, yeah.

Crista Cowan:

So you served your mission in Utah. You eventually come back to BYU. You marry Kim. She doesn't want to live.

Jay Marquiss:

She doesn't want to live in.

Crista Cowan:

Alaska. Somewhere in there you became friends with Cody Hale Now Cody Hale for people who listen to the podcast. If you remember, all the way back in episode two we talked to the Hale family because Grandma Hale, cody's mom she was adopted, and Lisa, my producer, and I helped to solve who her biological mother was. And Lisa's friends with the Hale family and I, of course, you can't live in Utah and not know them. So how did you and Cody become friends?

Jay Marquiss:

So before we were married, kim and I, when I first came down to school, I went up to Sundance and thought this is beautiful, this reminds me of Alaska, kind of. And I was an avid skier and so I looked at buying a season pass and I thought, oh, $60, that's a lot of money at the time, and so I thought maybe I can get a job here. So I applied and became a ski instructor and that's how I met Cody and his wife, linda. They, she, also taught skiing there, and so we taught skiing together for almost 40 years and just became fast and close friends and dear friends. We've been friends for 40 years.

Crista Cowan:

I love that.

Jay Marquiss:

And it's just, it's just evolved into we've vacationed together. Um, and that becomes part of the story because they had a summer theater down at Capitol Reef National Park and so they had a ranch house down there where they would put up the cast. And the first time that was where I first met Ruth Hale and the first time that was where I first met Ruth Hale grandma In Alaska. I was a plumber and Cody said hey, we need to open, get the theater open this summer and we've got some problems with the bathrooms. Can you come down and do some plumbing for us? So went down there and was climbing around underneath the crawl space doing some plumbing and came out and met Grandma Hale and we sat and had a conversation and she wanted to know all about me and she said are you single? And I said no, I'm married and have family. And she goes oh, we could really use a plumber in the family and I've got some granddaughters that need to be married.

Crista Cowan:

That sounds like Grandma Hale that sounds like Grandma Hale.

Jay Marquiss:

She tried to marry me off right then, before she even knew if I had a family. And that's how we first met and that kind of became a tradition with Cody, Linda and some other friends and us that we would go down to the ranch house every year and hike and mountain bike and just enjoy the outdoors. And we all were ski instructors at Sundance and just good friends. We'd go down there. One of my assignments was, uh, when we went down we'd all share the food, cooking the meals, and my assignment was breakfast and so every year we would go down, or twice a year. Uh, I always did the breakfasts and sourdough pancakes were the breakfast.

Crista Cowan:

Is that what you does? That was the only thing you could make, or is that was just what you loved?

Jay Marquiss:

Probably the only thing I could make at the time. And, uh, and everybody loved the sourdough pancakes and so, um, that's what we did and that's that's kind of part of this story. My, I got my, my sourdough starter from my parents when I went off to college and just kept. I loved sourdoughs. It was a tradition in our family.

Crista Cowan:

You just kept feeding it.

Jay Marquiss:

I just kept feeding it, yeah, and, and I made sourdough pancakes all the time. Back then I made a lot of sourdough bread as well. There were six of us from Alaska. We were all roommates and we'd all grown up together and we were roommates for years, several years together, until we started getting married.

Jay Marquiss:

And I recall, with the sourdough starter, you mix it up, you feed it and let it sit and then you make your bread or your pancakes or whatever you're going to do. So if it was pancakes, I'd mix it the night before and then in the morning I'd mix up my pancakes. Of course, you take starter out for the next time. And I had early classes. I just remember this one morning I had early classes and so I had made sourdough so I could make some bread. Later in the day Went off to my classes.

Jay Marquiss:

I came home, got ready to make bread, I went over to the bowl and it was covered with a towel. And I throw towel off and there's just a tiny bit of sourdough left in there, just enough for me to take out for my starter. And I'm like what the heck? So some of my roommates get home and I'm like you guys, what happened with my starter and they said well, we had pancakes before we went to school. And I'm like, are you kidding me? And I said all that was was flour, water and the starter, you guys. And they said we thought it tasted a little bad this morning. But we thought that's because we made them and not you, or we cooked them and not you, but there was enough, just enough for me to keep. And so ever since then I've always kept spare in case somebody forgets to take something out. But I've still had my original starter since 1976.

Crista Cowan:

That's crazy.

Jay Marquiss:

Yeah.

Crista Cowan:

And so you'd go down to the ranch house and you would make the pancakes.

Jay Marquiss:

And I would make the pancakes. Okay, yeah.

Crista Cowan:

Well, so you had a surprise visitor at the ranch house once.

Jay Marquiss:

At the ranch house and I don't know why it took me so many years to make a connection, but Pat Bryan had married one of the Hale daughters, sherry, and I'd known Pat and Sherry for years and never made the connection. Well, I shouldn't say I'd made it before this day, because of course, from the theater we would attend the theater and our youngest son, when he was little, did a couple of plays at the theater. He was a tiny Tim and then he was I don't recall the other one, but Sherry Bryan was his mother in one of the plays. And so we we had made, we knew and we made that connection. But uh, on one trip we were down there at the, at the, at the ranch, and so I'd be the first one to get up and start making the sourdoughs.

Jay Marquiss:

Pat and Sherry were there visiting, which was unusual because when one family member was there with a group, others didn't come down. But he was recovering from some surgery. So he was there kind of recuperating and I was the only one up getting things ready and he came walking into the kitchen and sat down and we were having a conversation and he said sourdough pancakes. Huh, and I were having a conversation and he said sourdough pancakes, huh, and I said yeah. And he said where'd you get your starter? And I said well, I got it from my parents. He said do you know where they got it from? I said no idea. He said they got it from me, and I, and, and I, and I, I was blown away. I was literally blown away that this connection had happened from back in 1959, 60, when he was first there. That's when he originally got his starter, when he was a missionary.

Crista Cowan:

And do you know who he got it from?

Jay Marquiss:

Yeah, so then he told us the story, and so that's where we learned the genealogy kind of of our sourdough starter.

Crista Cowan:

Because that's a thing.

Jay Marquiss:

It is, it really is. So in 1959, when he was a missionary, he was in Ketchikan.

Crista Cowan:

I've been to Ketchikan.

Jay Marquiss:

Yeah, I have a great aunt who lived there. There we go and see, I grew up there my whole life. I've never been to Juneau or Ketchikan Okay, Different part of the state but he said he was.

Jay Marquiss:

They'd go to this retirement home and he had met this, this old gold miner. He called him and he, in talking to him, found out that he had a sourdough and the retirement home was using it and keeping it alive for him and they would use it to bake. And so he talked to him about this and he, he found out from this, this man who was at the time 90 years old in 1959, that he had got it from an old they called the old guys sourdoughs. He'd got it from an old sourdough when he first came up to be a gold miner and so he wasn't exactly sure how old it was, other than he got it from this gold miner in 1897. And so he had had it from 1897 until 1959. So he'd had it about 60 years and he gave Pat a start from that and so Pat had had that all this time.

Crista Cowan:

So he had kept it through his mission.

Jay Marquiss:

He had kept it through his mission and after his mission. Okay, and, and still using the same original sour start. Sour to start to now.

Crista Cowan:

So it's so. It's what now? Like at least 130 years old now.

Jay Marquiss:

At least at least Cause he got it in 1897, and here we are 125, 30 years later.

Crista Cowan:

That's amazing.

Jay Marquiss:

And so it was like gold to them back in those days. That was their leavening agent and they did everything to keep it active and alive and not let it freeze and that and so yeah, and here you're sitting in a ranch house in southern Utah hearing this story for the first time.

Jay Marquiss:

Hearing this story for the first time After years of having the start and my family, my parents, having to start finding. And my parents didn't even really know the backstory to it. They knew that they got it from Pat and of course then I called my parents up and I said, hey, I just learned. And they said, yeah, we got it from Pat. So I said, well, I never knew this and how that the irony of that whole coming around meeting him, my parents meeting him in 1959, 60, and then me meeting him in the 70s and then again.

Crista Cowan:

And then you and Cody becoming friends, cody and I becoming friends and them being related Wow.

Jay Marquiss:

Yeah and it was just it blew me away.

Crista Cowan:

You know I love the way that lives kind of weave together in random touch points, right? I mean even something as simple as like Ketchikan and my aunt living there, and like you and this sourdough starter.

Jay Marquiss:

This is it right, this is it. This is 130 some odd years old.

Crista Cowan:

How far has this gone from you?

Jay Marquiss:

Like how many people have you shared this? I don't know A lot. In fact, we would leave one down at the ranch house so that I wouldn't have to carry it back and forth. And then somebody, if you let them sit for a while and they don't get used, they look pretty ugly. They separate. They'll separate after a week, but then after a time, if they don't get used, the liquid on the top kind of turns an ugly color. It looks pretty bad, unappetizing, unappetizing. But it can still be good, it can go.

Jay Marquiss:

I've had them sit for months and months and months without using them. And I actually have. I have two that I use for bread, I have four that I use for sourdough pancakes, and then I still have some extras in the refrigerator on the garage. And so they'll. They just will last forever. Open them up, activate them or feed them once a while, and they'll just last forever. I've handed them out to I don't even know countless people that have said, oh, we'd love a start, and so I give it to them. And that was even before we knew the history. Now that we have the history, we also give them a little paper with the history on it as we give it out, and so now I'm going to get a little emotional. Good, because where it has gone is it's close to my heart, because, you know, we served a mission a little over a year ago and we were called to serve at the Mormon Italian Historic Site, which was best experience of our life.

Crista Cowan:

Down in San Diego, in San.

Jay Marquiss:

Diego, in Old Town, san Diego. What a wonderful, remarkable experience. That was the situation there is, there's three senior couples that work the site, and then it's also run by, or manned by, sister missionaries, and so there's plus or minus 24 sister missionaries there.

Crista Cowan:

That are all what 19 to 21 years old.

Jay Marquiss:

Yeah, well, they're 19 because it's their first assignment, and so it's different, because they're assigned to serve there for six months and then they go out to proselyting mission for the remainder year of their mission. And so for six months we work every day, all day, with these sister missionaries as they, as they'd, rotate in and out. We have a little over 50 grand young sister missionaries that just became like granddaughters to us. And while we were there, of course, I took my sourdough starter with us, and after it was about a month actually, before we got settled into an apartment and that and once we got settled in, we said, hey, why don't we invite sisters over for sourdough pancakes? And so we started.

Jay Marquiss:

Each week sisters would come over for sourdough pancakes, and it just became this tradition that we did on our mission and the sisters loved it, and we had so many we didn't feed them all at the same time, so we'd have one apartment each week, and so they all got to come over at least once during each transfer. But they knew when we did it and so they would oh, could we borrow this? Just happened to find something they needed to borrow while we were feeding other sister missionaries and they'd step in and just grab pancakes off the plate, eat them with their hands, and it just became a fun tradition for us. So when we came home and the sister missionaries started also coming home, we decided we would get together. And so we have sourdough Sundays where sister missionaries that we coming home we decided we would get together, and so we have sourdough Sundays where sister missionaries that we served with come over and we try and do it once a transfer, so once every six weeks, and have them come over and we get together and have sourdough pancakes.

Jay Marquiss:

And it's, it's such it's. It is so fun. I just I mean, I can't even express it because oftentimes sisters will come over and then they'll see others that they haven't seen since their mission or for over a year because they left and went different destinations. And it's just, it is so wonderful to see the reunions. So a lot of them have said can we have sourdough starter? Can we have sourdough starter? Can we have sourdough starter? So our tradition now has become, when they get married, that they get sourdough starter and a recipe from us for pancakes and for bread. And so we've had.

Jay Marquiss:

We've had a half dozen of them get married so far and so they uh yeah get sourdough starter and and I've we've gotten messages and little Facebook things and pictures and text messages back holding their first loaf of sourdough bread or cooking pancakes and it's just, it's sweet to me that that tradition is kind of carrying on with somebody that's not even a family member, so that's just a tradition that's just continued. As well, as in my family I have grandkids that every Sunday, just like we used to or their parents did when they were young, they have sourdough pancakes on Sunday mornings.

Crista Cowan:

I love that.

Jay Marquiss:

And so the grandkids get up and fix sourdoughs on Sunday mornings, and so it's just a fun tradition that has just carried on in our family through what four generations now, and now it's carrying into other families the tradition.

Crista Cowan:

And they all have the story to go with it.

Jay Marquiss:

They all have the story to go with it. That's so great. Yeah, yeah.

Crista Cowan:

Oh, I love that. Well, while you were serving down at the Mormon Battalion site in San Diego, I had the opportunity to come visit you.

Crista Cowan:

I think Lisa and Jen and I were down there for an Ancestry work thing, yeah, and we came and spent a little bit of time there, and one of the things that people may not know about that particular site, like many of the historical sites for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is you're dressed in costume, yes, and period costume of the time, and I remember you were out back helping some little kid pan for gold In my costume, in your costume, yeah, and now that I know you're from Alaska, it just seems so fitting that that was the environment that you were able to serve it really was.

Jay Marquiss:

It was a little. Yeah, it was kind of fitting. It really was him wearing a watch that was gold nuggets that he had acquired while he was in Alaska, and I just would kind of laugh because there I am panning for fake gold at the time, and when Dad passed away, I inherited his watch, and so this is his watch.

Crista Cowan:

Made out of real Alaska gold.

Jay Marquiss:

Made out of real Alaska gold nuggets.

Jay Marquiss:

That's amazing, that he had made and I kind of wear it in memory of him and he, after he joined the church, he just dedicated his life to the Lord and mother and dad served two missions and he wore it every day of his mission and I inherited it but I didn't feel like I should wear it. I just I don't know. But when I went on the mission I thought I'm going to wear this to honor dad and so I wore it every day and I would often. Every day I would think of him because I'd be down there panning gold and I could see my watch and it just made me think of dad and his stories of Alaska.

Crista Cowan:

Yeah, so real Alaska, gold real Alaska sourdough Real Alaska sourdough what, as you think about what Alaska means to you, even though you know you haven't lived there most of your life?

Jay Marquiss:

Not now, yeah.

Crista Cowan:

It's where your roots are and clearly connections. Still, what does that mean?

Jay Marquiss:

Well, and you think about where you grow up and how that influences the rest of your life really, and that's what it's done to me. So almost 28 years first, 28 years of my life. And in fact I stopped into the hardware store yesterday and a fellow asked if he could help me and I said, oh, I'm just looking at this, but then I need to go pick this up. And he said, are you from Pleasant Grove? And I said no, I've been here Pleasant Grove 35 years, but not originally. Where are you from Alaska? And he was from Chile and he said Alaska and he was just enamored. I saw a show and he started asking me questions about Alaska and so I was answering him questions about the weather and the long summer days and the short winter days and and things like that, and it actually made me just yesterday this is ironic made me stop and think about Alaska and what, how big of a part of me that is. That's how I grew up A harsh back then, a lot harsher environment.

Jay Marquiss:

We didn't have homes that were as tight and warm and we would put things over the windows to keep the cold from coming in and scrape the insides of the glass. And you just learned to live with plugging in your cars at night, you know, because we didn't have a garage and so you you'd plug them in to keep them warm, keep from freezing, and that was just how I grew up. And because it was maybe a little harsher environment, I honestly think that you become a little tougher, because that's all you know. And uh, we would go out and literally shoot our, our food, uh, moose and caribou, and uh, yeah it, you just it was normal.

Jay Marquiss:

Um, I remember on one occasion my dad and his best friend and I were up to get a moose, and we would do it by plane sometimes, and so we spotted a moose and I actually was getting airsick because some of the things that they would do when they're looking at moose, and so I kind of laid over in the back and was dozing off. And the next thing, I know, we were landing and it was a really hard landing and it was in snow and the plane was on skis and anyway, they hand us the guns, hand us the guns, and we jumped out and we shot this moose and and, uh, and then, after, of course, they shot it, reality hit and we were stuck.

Crista Cowan:

Oh no.

Jay Marquiss:

We, we were wing deep in snow, we couldn't get out, and so we spent the night up on this mountain, because it was the next day before anybody could get in to us and we had almost used up all the fuel trying to get unstuck and so we had to wait for somebody to bring fuel in. But that was just kind of part of life. You just spent the night up on the mountain in the snow in 60 blow weather and tell somebody could come bring some more fuel.

Crista Cowan:

And that's in the 1960s. Your old gold miner, like that was a whole different world back then, back then, yeah.

Jay Marquiss:

Yeah, they had those harsh environments that they went through to go mine their gold and so it was a little taste of kind of what they experienced in being out in the wilderness. So it was such a different environment that we were raised in and parents trusted us and we could just take off and come home. When we came home and we would. When we were a little older, we got to take the snowmobiles and just go off into the wilderness and the mountains and if we broke down we were taught how to fix them and, if not, why you'd leave a machine and ride home with somebody else and get the parts you needed to go back and get it later and it's just kind of how we were raised and it's because of that.

Jay Marquiss:

I think it's just made me who I am. I just I don't know my wife gets after me sometimes because I do a little construction and I have a tendency to hurt myself sometimes on construction sites because I don't know if I'm careless or just I don't know, and so something happens and I just drive myself to the ER or put a paper towel over it and wrap it with electrical tape or something and take care of it later.

Jay Marquiss:

Keep going, just keep going, because that's what we were taught. We just were taught in that environment. You just keep going. And so it's kind of made me who I am in some ways, and Alaska will forever be in my soul. That's who I am. So people even nowadays I'll say I'm not a Utahn, I'm an Alaskan.

Crista Cowan:

I feel like I could sit and listen to you tell Alaska stories all day.

Jay Marquiss:

My wife has said you need to write a book, and I just shrug it off and laugh. I do have a lot of stories of Alaska, of things that happened that wouldn't have been able to take place any place else. But you always have a piece of Alaska with you Always have a piece of Alaska with me one way or another. When I die, the kids will probably throw a starter in my casket, I hope they do, but I hope the watch gets passed on to somebody else. Yeah, it will get passed on.

Crista Cowan:

Yes, it will Well.

Jay Marquiss:

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