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Kim Alexis: Fighting The Urge To Explain Yourself
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Kim Alexis, 80s supermodel turned integrative health practitioner and host of the podcast Unexpired, talks about the mindset shift that let her build a real estate career, a fitness certification, and a health practice, all after turning 64. She explains why she has chosen against surgery, how she manages her arthritis, and why she makes conscious health decisions in her weekly routine. Alexis also opens up about her instinct to over-explain herself to fans who criticize her changing appearance, and the wisdom that has slowly replaced that people-pleasing habit with peace. She closes with what keeps her looking forward at 66: a new grandson, a growing podcast, and a daily practice of gratitude.
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"When people see me and they see that I've aged, it reminds them, because they grew up with me, that they have aged also."
"No fillers, no shots, no plaque injected in my face. I just don't want it."
"I would say go at life with a grateful, joyful heart and be looking around the corner."
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No, when I hit 65, to me it was like, huh. You know what? If I don't want to, I don't have to work. But I decided that I wanted to. I wanted to keep being relevant and keep being credible and keep contributing to society. So that's when I started my podcast, was at 65, which is to me a reflection of my mind. I believe there's this people-pleasing part inside of me. And it did serve me well as a model because when you're modeling clothes, you're trying to give the client and the photographer what they want. So you're very much into pleasing other people and their opinions of what is art and what looks good. I have a problem though with the rest of me feeling like I need to make an excuse or explain myself. And I've even gotten yelled at on Instagram when I changed my hair, I changed my makeup palette color, and people are like, you know, that's just not right, or whatever. And I'm like, well, I'm just trying something new, and models like to do different things. And I'm like, what am I doing? Like, if you don't like it, unfollow.
SPEAKER_02Welcome back to the Ages Podcast. This is episode 298. And today on the show, we've got someone who's reinvented herself maybe four times over, Kim Alexis. You probably know Kim as one of the defining faces of 80s fashion, six sports illustrated swimsuit issues. She's done Bogue, Kelvin Klein, Ralph Lawrence. She was the face of Revlon's Ultima 2. What you might not know is what she's done since 60. She got a real estate license, she became a certified fitness instructor, she trained as an integrative health practitioner, and she started her own podcast, and I love this name, Unexpired. She's basically a walking case study for someone we talk about on this show constantly. Reinvention doesn't come with an age limit. In our conversation, I really appreciate how practical Kim gets. This isn't abstract wisdom of age stuff. She'll tell you exactly what she eats, exactly how she modified her workouts at 66, exactly why she said no to fillers and plastic surgery. Because we're going to get into all of it right after a quick word from our sponsors. Every movement we make starts with energy, and that energy starts inside our cells. As we age, our mitochondria, the little engines that power us, can become less efficient. That affects strength, recovery, resilience, all the things we actually care about. Timeline developed MitoPure with Urolithin A to support metophagy, the process that helps clear out damaged mitochondria so our cells can work better. I think of it as working closer to the source. Timeline's clinically proven formula is now available at a new, lower price. MitaPure now starts at $79 when you go to Timeline.com slash agist. That's Timeline.com slash AGIST. This season I've been paying more attention to the energy curve. Coffee can be useful, but too much of it and I end up wired than flat. Element Lemonade Iced Tea has been a better afternoon move. It uses full black tea extract with electrolytes, so the caffeine feels steadier and there's no sugar, artificial colors, or dodgy ingredients. Sharp and clear is the goal, especially when it's hot out and hydration matters. Get a free eight-count sample pack of Element's most popular drink mix flavors with any purchase at drinkelement.com slash aegis. Find your favorite flavor or share with a friend. That's D R-I-N-K-L-M-N-T.com slash ageist. Quick favor before we get going, if you've gotten something out of this show, tell a friend about your favorite episode. The more we grow, the more compelling guess we can share with all of you. One more thing. That's exactly the thinking behind the Super Age games. These are the first ever longevity competitions coming to New York City November 7th. It's built around what your body can actually do, not what it looks like. We're talking about grip strength, we're talking about balance, we're talking about cognitive health, we're talking about how to keep going for the long game. Go to games.com. Check it out. All right, without further ado, let's give Kim a call right now. Kim, lovely to see you today.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_02I understand you told me you're in Arizona and it's like some crazy temperature there. Like whatever.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's the end of July, so yes, it's supposed to be 110 today. I have been here nine years, and the highest I've seen, I was in my husband's truck and it was at 119, and all of a sudden it like clicked to 120, and then it clicked back down like five minutes later, but I'm like, oh, I saw 120. Yeah. I mean, there's a part of you that adapts, but a part of you hibernates, just like some people. I'm from Buffalo. So in the winter we used to hibernate for three or four months.
SPEAKER_02Kim, I I grew up in Geneseo.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you did? Yeah, very close. So I was in Lockport, which is outside of Buffalo.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. The I live part of the year in Park City, Utah, and people here are like, oh, oh, the winter. And it's like, no, you don't know winter. You need to upstate New York, that's winter.
SPEAKER_00But we grew up with it thinking that was normal, right? It wasn't we were just dealt with it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So there's so much I want to talk to you about. I'm really very excited about this. You know, you were like a super supermodel. And you spent your whole career out there proving that you were like more than a face. Like you, you know, you were you're a swimmer, you're running marathons, you're doing TV, and now you're 65. No, I just 66. 66. Oh my gosh. Oh wow. Okay, don't. I didn't want to cheat you of a year there. Is there is there more to prove?
SPEAKER_00No. No, when I hit 65, to me, it was like, huh. You know what? If I don't want to, I don't have to work. But I decided that I wanted to. I wanted to keep being relevant and keep being credible and keep contributing to society. So that's when I started my podcast, was at 65, which is to me a reflection of my mind. Like I want to keep going and I want to stay young and I want to be fit and healthy and busy and all that.
SPEAKER_02So speaking of the podcast, unexpired, tell tell me about this. What why did you do this? Who are you having on? What what are you hoping to get across?
SPEAKER_00So great questions. Uh so first, why I'm doing it is because I've I've always had this fascination with, but you were just doing this, and then now you're doing this. Like, how did you get from there to there? And so I find that there's so many people that may start out in a career or they may be something, and then they decide literally to like throw it away or piggyback on it and go into something else. And so I love celebrating that and I love celebrating other people. When I do a podcast, it's not that I could sit and talk for an hour on my own. Some people are very good at that, but I'm like, oh my gosh, no, I'm just very short and sweet. So I felt it was better to have guests on. And then I have done so many celebrity charity tournaments over the years and have met so many kind, wonderful celebrities, ex-athletes, musicians, uh, comedians, actors. And so for me, they were friends. And I decided let's just get dive in and talk to them and see what they're doing. So it became this great message. And my hope for people is that they're inspired, that they're encouraged, that they don't need to stop, that they can try something new and different. That's what I want them to get out of unexpired.
SPEAKER_02Have you found some commonality, Kim, among the people who who do change careers? Is there something that links these people?
SPEAKER_00Sometimes it is preparation, other times it's mindset, and sometimes it's almost literally I wouldn't say dumb luck, but I've had some people on and they're like, oh yeah, I was just walking down the street or just in an elevator and I met this person and said yes, and then did this. I think you have to be open for new possibilities. Also, if your mind says, I'd never try that. Like for me, I'd never want to go up and like do comedy, like uh the mic stand thing where you what do they call that stand-up?
SPEAKER_02So you you mentioned the word mindset. What is it why why some people can sort of change lanes like this and others can't? You've spoken to all these people. What is the mindset that's necessary to change lanes like that?
SPEAKER_00I don't know exact words to put it, but it seems that there's this passion to want to continue to make something work, to uh try new things. Uh, they're not stuck in a groove. They're not saying this is who I am and I'm not changing. So there's like this openness, there's this softness, there's this ability to say, huh, maybe what I was doing is not right, or maybe my body's starting to age and I need to, you know, rest my body if you're an athlete. Maybe for music, it's like I need to try a different band or a different instrument. I don't know. There's just something about certain people that just wants to make something work and is willing to try new things.
SPEAKER_02I have found, and maybe you found this too, that the language people use when they talk about themselves is it it's quite interesting. You have some people who will say I'm just old, I can't do X or whatever.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02And then there are other people who they go a very different track. It's like, oh, there's this new thing, and I'm so curious about this. Let's see what I can do.
SPEAKER_00Right. Exactly. Exactly. Now, even though I'm willing to try new things in some areas, I'm not willing to do things I did when I was in my 20s and 30s. For example, I could care less if I ever waterski again. I grew up at the age of seven. I was a swimmer, so I watersed. I waterskied on the Niagara right before Niagara Falls. And so I've done that and I don't need to do it anymore. I think you hit your 60s and the ground and the water become harder. It seems like you don't want to fall. And so there's smart parts of you that may not venture out. I don't want people saying, well, Kim told me, so I went and climbed a tree and broke my arm, you know. So uh, but there's other things where it's okay to try something new or learn something new. I took real estate school and got my agent's license, and then I certified as a fitness instructor, and then I went into integrative health, and I'm now a practitioner, so it's like I did all this from the age of 64 on.
SPEAKER_02We're gonna pause there for a quick break. When we come back, she gets specific about what's on her plate every day, how she trains at 66, and why she had to learn to hold back a little at the gym. Stick around. Most of us think about muscle health in terms of lifting weights and consuming protein, but there is a deeper layer underneath all of it, and that is cellular energy. Your muscle cells are packed with mitochondria because muscle takes a lot of energy to do its job. As we age, mitochondrial function naturally declines, and that can show up as lower energy, less strength, slower recovery, and a little less bounce back than we used to have. Timeline has spent more than 15 years researching mitochondrial health and developed mitopure, which contains urolithin A. Urolithin A supports metophagy, the body's process for clearing out damaged mitochondria and recycling cellular components. In one study, participants saw a 12% improvement in muscle strength in four months with no change in exercise. That gets my attention. For me, healthy aging means protecting capacity, the ability to move, train, recover, and keep showing up for the life I want. Supporting the cellular machinery underneath strength and energy feels like a very smart place to start. Timeline's clinically proven formula is now available at a new, lower price. Midopure now starts at $79 when you go to Timeline.com slash AGIST. I used to think the afternoon fade was a caffeine problem. Have another coffee, push through, keep going. But caffeine mostly mutes the signal that tells you you're tired. The fatigue is still there, building underneath, and when it wears off, you feel the drop. What I like about Element Lemonade Iced tea is that it takes a different approach. It uses full black tea extract. So the caffeine comes with L-theanine and polyphenols, the way it exists in the plant. Then it adds a meaningful dose of electrolytes, sodium, potassium, and magnesium, the same foundation as Elements Core Hydration Mix. For me, that makes sense in the summer. Heat, training, travel, long work days, all of that asks more from the system. I reach for lemonade iced tea when I want something that feels clean, steady, and actually refreshing, with no sugar, artificial colors, or strange ingredients. Get a free eight-count sample pack of Elements most popular drink mix flavors with any purchase at drinkelement.com slash AGIST. Find your favorite flavor or share with a friend. Once again, that's D-R-I-N-K-L-M-N-T.com slash AGIST. So let's uh let's skip to health. I I understand you and I both have arthritis, which a lot of people our age do. Tell me what how do you manage it?
SPEAKER_00I only have it just a little bit in my thumb. I don't really have unless it's in my neck, I just try and stretch. But I think the only place I really feel it is right here in my thumb. So that is an autoimmune problem. It is something that can be managed. I manage it manage my inflammation levels with turmeric and curcine. So that's to me something that works for me. And other people need to do other things, maybe an anti-inflammatory diet. I know that I feel worse if I have red sauce, nightshades, wheat altogether, because those are all inflammatory. So I wake up the next morning and like feel it. Everything's stiff. So there are natural things you can do to feel better or stay away from certain things. And I know people don't like hearing that and they just want to take a magic pill, but sometimes uh put putting yourself on an anti-inflammatory diet might be what you need.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I would rather just eat eat anything that's in front of me that looks good.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_02But I I've found that like, you know, discriminating what I put in my mouth and, you know, avoiding some of those inflammatory foods that that you mentioned, and you know, some of those things they have, like high lectin loads and things like that, seem to really help. I've I've I don't know about you, but I've so I've I've switched to turmeric with pepper. I can't remember what it is, but it comes in a pill.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yes, that's it. Excuse me. Yes. I was doing just turmeric powder, and my wife was just like, you gotta stop it with that. There's like orange dust everywhere. It's it's like ruining the towels, like the counters change. Can you like figure out some other way to do this? Oh, yeah. I've got it, I've got it in capsules now.
SPEAKER_00There you go. Yeah. That's a little easier to deal with, too.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So you you said something in the in the interview we did you did with Justin for for ages. You said if you cancel a meeting, you feel you have to explain why. And rather than just say, like, I'm I'm sorry, I can't make the meeting. Talk talk to me a little bit about that. Where does that come from?
SPEAKER_00I believe there's this people-pleasing part inside of me. And it did serve me well as a model because when you're modeling clothes, you're trying to give the client and the photographer what they want. So you're very much into pleasing other people and their opinions of what is art and what looks good. Uh, I have a problem though, with the rest of me feeling like I need to make an excuse or explain myself. And I've even gotten yelled at on Instagram when I changed my hair, I changed my makeup palette color, and people are like, you know, that's just not right, or whatever. And I'm like, well, I'm just trying something new, and models like to do different things. And I'm like, what am I doing? Like, if you don't like it, unfollow. So I don't know. I just I'm at this point where I try hard not to, but I think I have this natural reaction to explain myself. And yes, it is not necessary sometimes.
SPEAKER_02Well, I I I want to go to this subject of appearance. And you know, you've said that sometimes the people get angry at you because you don't look the way you did 40 years ago, which seems a bit insane to me.
SPEAKER_00Now it's 48 years ago. 48 years ago is when I started.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So so we know you're not a vampire. You look different now, and people have a problem with that. I uh help me to understand that.
SPEAKER_00I believe, and it's a theory, it's Kim's theory, but that when people see me and they see that I've aged, it reminds them, because they grew up with me, that they have aged also.
SPEAKER_02Which is true.
SPEAKER_00Yes. And I'm accused of putting filters on, and I'm accused of all these different things. I'm like, uh no, I wouldn't know how to put a filter on a camera or my cell phone or whatever it is.
SPEAKER_02I'll just stay on this topic because I think that one of the difficulties with somebody coming from your profession or who's out in the, you know, sort of well known for their face is like, what's the right level of maintenance, right? Like what what what should I do or not do? And, you know, there are some there's some actresses and actors now too who seem to not age. They're they're doing a lot of things to keep themselves looking a certain age. But you you've made the decision not to do any plastic surgery.
SPEAKER_00Correct. Nor fillers, nor shots, nor plague injected in my face. I just don't want it. So yeah, for me it was an easy choice of this is what I look like at this age. So, you know, like it or lump it. You know, to me, I am who I am. I at this point, I don't need to prove anything. And I don't know what plastic surgery or all these different procedures, I don't do the red light therapy, I don't do weird laser, I don't even know some of the new stuff they've got out there. I'm very simple. And I find that if I can take care of the inside of my body, the outside kind of just shows up. That's just me. And that's the way I'm choosing to live. And for the most part, there's a lot of women who are saying, thank you, thank you for aging naturally, because then you give me permission to do it. And that's not why I'm doing it, but I'm glad that I can help and encourage other people.
SPEAKER_02So talk to me about taking care of the inside. What are you doing to take care of the inside?
SPEAKER_00Well, I'm eating good whole foods. It's making sure there's lots of fruits and vegetables every single day. I have to have some protein. Some people may not want animal protein. I like a little bit. I don't need it to be my whole staple for my whole day. But there's you have to find out what works for your body, and then you have to keep at that every single day. I make my own sourdough and I ferment it, you know, it's fermented and then it goes in the freezer and it gets rid of some of the glucose problems. And so you're constantly learning and tweaking and trying things, but basically it's vegetables. And if I cook them, I steam them first and then add cold pressed olive oil on top. If I'm cooking meats, it's they're not processed with a lot of fats and salts and all these other things people put in them. It's it's a chicken breast or it's turkey or it's a piece of meat. Uh so for me, it's just as simple and basic as possible from good sources.
SPEAKER_02Are you you were always very active? What kind of sports are you doing? Tell me about that.
SPEAKER_00So for sports, I guess a sport I would do would be golf. I grew up swimming. So if I'm training, and for me, training is not necessarily anymore for an event. I used to run a lot of different races. I've run eight marathons, uh, so I would have training routines and schedules. And because I grew up from the age of six on competitively swimming, there is a part of my body and my system that just loves to have that physical effort. And so I do go to the gym, I lift weights. Sometimes if I lift too much or the wrong thing in my 60s now, my neck gets sore. So I'm not doing overhead presses like this. So I'm literally having to modify what I used to do, but I'm still out there. I'm still doing things. Uh, I play tennis, I play pickleball, whatever sport that is out there and available, I'm gonna try and jump in and do it. But I don't need to do it as hard as I did when I was young. And if I'm taking a class like at a gym, I don't need to be high impact. So for me, I do the low impact version and realize in my mind, it's okay, Kim. You don't have to keep up with the class, or you don't have to. I mean, my thing was always go ahead and try and, you know, beat everyone and get there first and do your best. And sometimes my mind has to say, it's okay, just a little bit less. You'll feel better tomorrow.
SPEAKER_02We are not 20 anymore.
SPEAKER_00No, I know, I know. I know. You strain yourself too much, and sometimes it can set you back weak. So it's best to just maintain. I think maintenance is very important. So my husband and I once a week do a super strong leg workout. When we're really fit, we can do five sets of it. And we do all these different machines, and we'll do it, takes about 40 minutes to go through it, and we're only giving ourselves 30 seconds or less rest in between each set. So that's fun. And then I do my arms and shoulders and check its chest and back at different points on my own.
SPEAKER_02Wow. Yeah, it's definitely use it or lose it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I just feel better if I'm active. I feel better if my muscles feel strong and you know, I just feel fit and I feel like my frame is sitting on muscle versus jelly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You you recently became a grandmother. What's that like?
SPEAKER_00Well, he's a year now. I can't believe he's already a year. So he's not a big talker, so he doesn't have a lot of feedback. And he does live in Florida and we're in Arizona, so I see him maybe five, six times a year. Sometimes he looks at me like, I might know you, and then it takes him a little while. And by the time he's warmed up, we're flying home again. So my daughter-in-law and I are trying to get on FaceTime. My husband FaceTimed in the other day, and I guess she had put the phone on the ground, and he kept seeing the red button, and he kept pushing it, so he kept hanging up on my husband. So, but there's that effort to thank God for FaceTime and being able to at least see him that way.
SPEAKER_02How does it how does it make you feel to see your grandchild and to and to be a grandmother?
SPEAKER_00I think the most fun, because I'm still, again, not having these conversations with him as a little person. So for me, seeing my son, my youngest son, now have a son and be a parent, I'm like, huh. Number one, you want them to appreciate you like now you know what it feels like. All that time and energy I put into you. See, see what I had to go through. But there's another part where you're just proud that your son is such a good parent and he's such a good husband. And, you know, he tells me he just can't wait to get home to his family every night. So that just to me is special. That's nice.
SPEAKER_02Talk to me a little bit about this idea of uh wisdom. And you, you know, you you you said that age has brought you wisdom and and wisdom has brought you peace. What does that look like in your life?
SPEAKER_00I am a Christian, so I am constantly asking God for wisdom, and I believe it comes from Him. So to me, that's important. Wisdom as we age, I think, comes from, hey, I've tried it this way, I've done that, I've talked to this person this way, I've accepts expected things from this relationship that didn't work out. And you get to the point where you're like, you know what? You can't change them. You can only change you. You can only change how you approach and talk to yourself and other people. And I think there just becomes this peace about I'm handling and doing everything I can do with people and relationships and finances and business and everything else. And if I'm doing my best, I feel that brings me peace.
SPEAKER_02What what is it now that uh you're at the respectable age of 66? What what are you looking forward to? What are the like what what are your ambitions going forward? What's what's exciting you right now?
SPEAKER_00I love the whole idea of continuing the podcast. I have great guests on. I keep shooting higher and higher for big celebs because I find that they're fascinating and I think more people can relate to them. Uh this week, though, I do have someone whom many people don't know, but she came from a cult. And so just her story of her strength and how she was able to leave was is inspiring and encouraging. And she's young, she's only in her 30s. So that's fun. It's fun to dive into other people, to be able to celebrate them, to be able to then use that as encouragement and instruction for maybe the youth and feed into them. I still would love to endorse products. I'm pretty picky on what I like, but uh I'm not a collaborator. I don't want to be an affiliate with people. I would like the big endorsement contracts. So I have held out. I'm not one that does the little tiny things and and uh gets paid a dollar for each one or whatever they get. So that's that's where I'm at. Again, I'd love to get back on the speaking circuit. I've kind of fallen away from that, but again, that's a way to be able to feed in what I've learned and what I've been through and be able to feed into other people's lives so that maybe they can get something from it and make their life better. So that's where I'm at.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna be a lookist at the moment and say, your skin looks amazing.
SPEAKER_01Well, thank you.
SPEAKER_02Thank you. You just have you have this wonderful glow about you.
SPEAKER_01Well, it might be it's a little hot in here.
SPEAKER_00But thank you.
SPEAKER_02Maybe that's what it is. But there's a word that I like to use, aliveness. And I feel that that is that's the goal that I strive for, and I and it's what I encourage other people to strive for is this idea of how can you be maximally alive.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And when I look at you and I see like what you're doing, that's the sense that I get that this is a very alive human being who's very excited about being alive.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and appreciative and grateful. And I think those attributes come through also. I mean, I love a beautiful sunset and a little bird that comes by the window. And I mean, the smallest little thing is look at that. So there's so much not only in the world that we can to enjoy, but we could explore and learn so many other things to learn, so many different cultures and countries and foods and so many things. And I think that when you're open to that with a gleeful, like like a joyful kid. I'm like a little kid sometimes, but I don't know. That just is the way I'm built, I guess.
SPEAKER_02As somebody once said, it's all I've ever known.
SPEAKER_00There you go. Well, I've I mean, I've been in situations. There were times in my life where things were difficult, and I was married in a in a marriage that probably shouldn't have been. And so I didn't I wasn't allowed to kind of thrive and be myself. And then I allowed that. So it was my fault for allowing that. But now I'm on my third marriage, but I am, and he's sitting right over here, but just just me, just happy. So he's allowing me to be me and just appreciates me and supports me. And that is huge when you're in the public eye to have that love and support and encouragement from behind, and he's my biggest cheerleader. And so that's it's really important versus kind of beating down the bushes on your own and not getting support from home from home. So uh, you know, and that it was tough to make those decisions to say, even though I've got kids with you, this is not working.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah. What Kim, what do you want to leave my people with today? But what is it that you want them to know?
SPEAKER_00I would say go at life with a grateful, joyful heart and be looking around the corner. I feel like I'm a little kid sometimes, like, is there something new over there around that corner? Because there's life has so much to offer, and we can focus on the negative and we can focus on hating certain people, but I choose to put those things up on a shelf and just try and focus on finding good in people and finding uh gratefulness and happiness and try to stay joyful and peaceful. I don't like being agitated. I don't like being angry. I don't like being hateful. It doesn't feel right to me. So I have to put all that aside. If if I have injustices, I gotta deal with them, but I'm not gonna focus on them and fester. Uh so again, push it to the side and just literally focus on what good you have and be grateful. There's so many things, like when I was vacuuming earlier, so I was vacuuming 10 minutes before I'm on this podcast, and literally it's like, okay, well, I don't like the dog here, but I have a wonderful dog and I have a wonderful cat and I have a beautiful home and I have a vacuum that works. And so if you start thinking that way and I'm able to vacuum, have you ever been sick when you have no energy and you couldn't even think of vacuuming? I don't want to be that way. I want to have the energy, I want to have the vitality. And so I'm very grateful for those things. And even though you have to vacuum, use a grateful heart and it's okay.
SPEAKER_02So it's just wonderful. Thank you, Kim. Kim Alexis, podcast unexpired, which I gotta tell you, I love the name. It's such a great name. I wish I came up with that name. That was really good.
SPEAKER_00So I went through 50 names and there were so many people that already had podcasts. And so somehow I knew I wanted one name, and then this just kind of was one of the last things we looked at, and bingo.
SPEAKER_02Brilliant. It's brilliant. Yeah. Kim, this has been really lovely. I I appreciate you taking the time today and speaking with us. I'm gonna say a lookest thing again. It gives me joy just looking at you. So I like that.
SPEAKER_00There you go. Well, good. I'm glad I could help.
SPEAKER_02Wonderful. Thank you so much, Kim. Enjoy the rest of the day.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you too.
SPEAKER_02Thanks. That was the great Kim Alexis. So wonderful to have her on the show. What really got me was the parallel between Kim's story and something I think about a lot myself. This reflex to explain ourselves, to justify why we canceled a meeting or why we changed our hair. In my case, maybe it's my glasses. Kim calls it people-pleasing. Leftover from a model career built on giving other people what they wanted. I recognize a bit of a version of that in myself, and I don't think I'm alone in that. Thanks again to Kim for joining us on the show today. Be sure to check out her new podcast, Unexpired, which, again, I think is like the best name ever for a podcast. It's a great title, deeply personal interviews of some of Kim's friends and the people that she's come across in her amazing career. That's it for this week. Stay strong, stay vibrant. We'll see you next time.