Well...Basically
Well...Basically
176: Gym & Tonic
Ever wondered how a simple mistake in the kitchen can lead to culinary perfection? Join us as we kick off this episode with Sam's hilarious story of leaving the oven on and stumbling upon an impeccable cooking technique. From there, we shift gears to Andrew's escapade of pretending to be a personal trainer for a market research interview. Together, we dive into an engaging discussion about the challenges faced by fitness professionals, the idea of a WeWork-like space for fitness experts, and the practicality of micro gyms.
But that’s not all – we also venture into the unspoken realm of cruising in public bathrooms, with a humorous take on the subtle signals and etiquette involved. Celebrating our 176th episode, We reflect on the gastrointestinal consequences of consuming too many protein bars, before seamlessly transitioning to our partying theme, complete with a jab at misleading product reviews.
In this episode we explore the delicate balance between health and social life. Listen as we share personal experiences with partying less frequently but more selectively, and discuss the effects of late nights and alcohol on workouts. We emphasize the importance of hydration and delve into the impact substances like alcohol and marijuana can have on fitness goals. Through personal anecdotes and research, we highlight how to navigate these challenges while advocating for a balanced approach to life, where occasional indulgences don’t drastically hinder fitness progress. Tune in for practical tips and a whole lot of laughs along the way!
this is well, basically with your host, mike de silva, and sam weeks on today's episode.
Speaker 2:We opened with a little conversation about cruising. If you don't know what that is, just stick around, because you're gonna to find out. And then we moved on to our topic. Can you be fit and enjoy yourself? Can you party? Can you go to a rave? We talked about how often what you should be doing, what you shouldn't be doing, what you could be doing. We had some thoughts on the matter. We hope you enjoyed today's episode.
Speaker 1:This is Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, whoa.
Speaker 2:This is Well basically. Wow, that was good Shaky microphones.
Speaker 1:Well, basically.
Speaker 2:Let me think about this. You're having a big think there, sammy. I'm always thinking, yeah, good, I'm glad, I actually I never stop thinking.
Speaker 1:But what are you thinking about? Nothing important. Yeah, good, that's the best thought.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's never anything important, Except you know how everyone talks about that classic moment where you've left the oven on. Yeah, I had that. What happened For the first time today? Oh my gosh, I was training Pierre out the back and then I went oh shit, I've left the oven on with something in it. How did it turn out Perfectly? I thought it was perfect. Wow, chloe doesn't like a charred vegetable.
Speaker 1:It's called intuitive cooking. Yeah, exactly, you just you put something in the oven and then you deliberately go distract yourself and whenever you remember it is when it's meant to be done. Yeah, it's how you have a balanced cooking life, you know, I think have a balanced cooking life, you know I think that's just burning a lot of things, yeah burning bridges in there.
Speaker 1:I think like even a second longer it would have been burnt. But that's perfect intuitive cooking. It's absolutely ideal. Hey, um, I did some market research this week. Okay, the market research company called me up and they said, oh, um, we have 80 if you can do an hour interview.
Speaker 2:And I was like yes, absolutely, and I was like cool, I absolutely, and I was like, cool, I'm free, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then, uh, they were like you have to be a PT. And I was like, yes, me, I am a PT, thank you so much. And then I, um, they asked me all these questions about when I like started my business and how many clients I have and how often I'm PT, and all this. And I was like answering questions to try to convince them that I was a PT. And then they were like, yes, you're perfect for this. And so I go onto the call. It was like last Saturday and I thought it was going to be like a group interview, because that's how they sold it to me that it would be me and like five other people looking at these ideas, and it was just me and the interviewer and she was like probing into my business and my business needs and what I've struggled with. And I was like I struggle with social media. I don't know how to get clients. I don't know.
Speaker 2:So I see I thought I okay. So the way I read your message was that it was some weird market research where you actually had to pretend to be a trainer and the people who were interviewing were aware of that. I thought it was like I was like that weird but okay. But no, you actually pretended no. Yeah, was it worth it? Was the stress worth the 80 dollars it was? I mean, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:How long were you on the phone for? Uh, probably 45 minutes. It was a zoom call as well, so she could see me oh shit um. Did you wear a like a gracio mask, gracio marks, uh, glasses, andaches.
Speaker 2:Did you plug the podcast? You should have plugged the podcast.
Speaker 1:I talked about how well, so I don't know if I can tell. I don't think it matters if I tell what was in this market research. If they track me down, what are they going to do? Kelly, maybe they were asking really specific questions and what they're doing is they're setting up what is effectively like a WeWork space, but for people in the health and fitness industry. Oh, interesting, yeah, um, and at first I was like that's innovative, that's so exciting. That's every gym, though, literally, she described a gym to me. She just went oh, but you can book time on the floor to take your clients. And then she showed me this gym space and I was like, oh, I mean, I was fully in character at this point.
Speaker 2:I was like my clients did you do an accent you?
Speaker 1:should have an Italian. What's a PT's accent?
Speaker 2:Just Italian, Mammy yeah that would have been good.
Speaker 1:They would have had to show that footage to people that actually work for the company as well. And I was like, but my clients, the reason they come to it. Because I basically tried to like model myself off the PTs. And I was like I've got a gym in my backyard because then they can never track who I am yeah, um, and find out that I'm lying to them. And I was like, oh, but my clients like coming to my gym because it's not a big gym and they can't see other people, like they can have that privacy with us, maybe if they're a little ashamed of themselves when they're working out, and this is just a big gym space. And she was like, what would you like to see change? And I was like, oh, maybe lots of micro, little gyms that you could like do the whole workout. And she was like I don't know how cost effective that would be. And I was like, babe, you asked for my feedback as a PT.
Speaker 1:I'm giving you that. Uh, and they had that. But at one point she was like um, how would you feel about it's so funny that they would think fitness people we need to put in a podcast space? Because she was like, how would you feel about a podcasting studio that you could also use in this space? And I was like that's genius. Absolutely, that's genius.
Speaker 1:And she was like what would you need for a podcast space? I was like I have a podcast actually, and she was like what would you need for a podcast space in here? And I was like uh, microphones, a room that's quiet, yeah, soundproofing.
Speaker 2:I don't know how valuable my feedback was, but at the end you were a fucking liar, yeah, but I was in character.
Speaker 1:At that point I fully believed I was andrew the pt. Um, at the end she was like oh, and you know, they're gonna open up in a few months. Um, because I would. I think they were trying to get an idea of pricing, of how much I would pay as a pt. Yeah, um, she was like they're gonna open up in a few months. Would you like an invite to the opening party? I was like yes, 100% For sure. I wanted an invite. So that was fun.
Speaker 2:What were the rates?
Speaker 1:I think it was $35 per hour long session but you also paid a $200 per month fee.
Speaker 2:It was like $50 a week fee to be a member of this it's actually, or to use the space that actually you know that's not, I mean the clipping of the ticket probably. That definitely adds up, depending on how busy you are for each session. But I was going to say 200 bucks a month is dirt cheap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's 200 bucks just to have access to use the space. Yeah, okay, but if you take a client in to use like that gym for an hour, that's what they tell you first they say 200 bucks a month.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you're like whoa, really Like that's crazy. I could do so much, yeah. And then 35. Is 35 like comparative?
Speaker 2:to gyms If the space is like pretty high end, which I'm assuming it is no-transcript.
Speaker 1:Like six I really low-balled it, it was like 65, uh, for a session in there and she was like do you think you could change the price if you were doing in this space? And I was like yes, 100'd have to. She also got really hung up on the change rooms and she kept asking me what I would want changed in the change room and I was like no, they look nice, they look really like chic and good. And she was like would it be upsetting for you to get changed in this big open space? Would you prefer smaller cubicles? And I was like babe, there's nothing I love more than being nude in public. Like I would love this open space.
Speaker 2:I should have been like it's a great place to cruise if oh my god, can you tell me what cruising is, because I'm pretty sure I have listeners who aren't aware oh well, so cruising it's usually gay term.
Speaker 1:Uh, it's where you um, where you find people in public and have sex with them in public. So you'll see sometimes in change rooms, like if you go to the darlinghurst, is it fitness first or whatever it is. Um, uh, the gay gym on oxford street. Um, people will like go into each other's shower stalls or they'll like watch each other get changed and they'll like move into a place.
Speaker 2:So it's like going is it all about eye contact? Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a fun specific move that you do.
Speaker 1:You do this in the eyebrows I'm just saying it's eyebrow raising I've talked about well.
Speaker 2:So if you're like cruising, under stall where you do the foot tapping.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do the foot tapping, then you might put your fingers under the stall to like kind of be like come on, come here In the change rooms. Usually you would like make eye contact with someone or you'll like look down at their genitals if they're getting changed, and you can usually tell if someone's trying to cruise you, cause there'll be like a little half mast in the change room and they'll be like just like kind of fiddling with it more than a normal person would fiddle with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, um, I wouldn't know how to handle that, but the thing is if then they like turn away after you make eye contact like that, they're saying no, thank you and then you move on.
Speaker 2:Not that I've ever done it, of course. I'm chased. I'm still a virgin.
Speaker 1:You're the cruisy yeah, yeah, but no, I actually genuinely I've never had sex with someone in a public bathroom. That sounds so disgusting. That sounds so disgusting, man. Yeah, imagine smelling someone else's shit while you're having sex. No, thank you it's true, true okay.
Speaker 2:It's time to do an intro, I reckon. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, 176. Nice, wow, good memory. I didn't even edit it. This week Andrew had his editing virginity stolen from him by editing the podcast last week.
Speaker 1:It just absolutely burst asunder.
Speaker 2:Welcome to First Time Listeners. Second Time Listeners, third, fourth, fifth, you guys who listen every week, we love you the most. I'm here, andrew is here, mikey is in New Zealand. Once again, love's going there. Kiwi, kiwi, kiwi, oi, oi, oi, that's what we say. I hope so. We go New Zealand, new Zealand, new Zealand, oi, oi, oi. Yeah, okay, we like to party, we like, we like to party, and we're going to talk about that today, aren't we?
Speaker 1:Andrew this very day. It's a beautiful Sunday.
Speaker 2:It is a beautiful Sunday. If you're walking down the street, you might want to just like I don't know tap your feet Not in a public bathroom, obviously.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that'll get you. Unless you're trying, that'll get you some really unwanted attention.
Speaker 2:You might want to throw your hands up in the air. We can talk about partying this episode because we love it, don't we? Party music, big dancey, party music. This is nice. It is. It's nice and party at the same time. It's got a little bop, yeah. Yeah, andrew, I know I said we like to party, but do you like to party? We like to party.
Speaker 1:I should have played that song. Why didn't I play that song? No, next week, when we continue this episode, the two-parter no, it's not going to be a two-parter.
Speaker 2:Wait, actually, before we get into the topic. How sick were you after all the protein bars last week? Oh my God.
Speaker 1:My guts. I felt like I had swallowed a lead weight and also, I will say, my stools were like not the average experience the day after. How about you? How did you feel Terrible. I felt like I was weighed down. We just kept eating them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but also I feel like we didn't like, if we had, how many bars did we test?
Speaker 1:I brought six and Mikey got two, so it'd be eight bars, so like and we didn't have more than a quarter generally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was often less. So, it's two bars? Yeah, but I think I reckon I only had one one and a half, I think.
Speaker 1:Maybe our bodies were fine with all of the bars, except for that lemon one that we had, and that was what sent us I reckon that was just like a bomb going off. Yeah, do you know? Um, uh, I don't know where we can share it, but the we were looking up a review for that bar because we were like, oh, other people have to hate this it tastes so bad and then we I found the first link it.
Speaker 1:It was like, oh, I tried the I can't remember the brand Keep it Cleaner. I tried the Keep it Cleaner bar and I was like, yes, we get to see someone go. Oh, this is disgusting. And then I watched the video and this woman was like it's so light and refreshing, it's delicious.
Speaker 2:It tastes like an actual gelato. Yeah, oh my God, that was a line from.
Speaker 1:It was just posted on the Keep it.
Speaker 2:Cleaner TikTok. It was made by them, so you know who are they fooling with that. Really it's propaganda.
Speaker 1:Yeah, goebbels would be proud of Keep it Cleaner, I think.
Speaker 2:We can't say that we're going to get done for defamation.
Speaker 1:Listen, I could get away with that defamation case, because we would go to the judge. We'd say nothing and we'd place a keep it cleaner bar in front of them. They'd take one bite and they'd go nazis, that's fine speaking of nazis partying.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's right they did.
Speaker 1:They loved meth, and meth is the party drug. Yeah, um, I uh used to party a lot, um, and now I party a lot less. I'm a lot more selective with the parties that I go out to, but I do enjoy it. I do like to imbibe, I like to go have a little boogie a big night out. We're going to go out tonight Not, I would say, to a party, no we're going to sit down and listen to music. I think she's my kind of party.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you quite like to party. I do like to party, but that's only because, like you know, I am involved in music that is related to partying and I also just really like dance music and I like being out and seeing people dance and I like the, I just like it.
Speaker 1:I can't say more than that. You like to make the party as well. I think is a big thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and also me and Chloe are quite heavily involved in making parties and ensuring people have a good time and that kind of thing. So I thought like we haven't really done this as a topic, but I mean I've talked about uh, all the events that I've attended, played it. Um had a lot of fun at uh over the years, over the last couple of years of the podcast, but it's sort of like has posed the question of can you enjoy yourself ie party and still be fit and healthy? And there is a big section of uh fitness social media that says you need to give up everything. Or like I was so lost until I and these are probably specific cases, I don't know, but like I see a lot of it like you can't be your best self until you give up all of these things, and I challenge that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, to start off small, do you find that your workouts are affected if you've had a big weekend?
Speaker 2:Oh, 100%, but how are they affected? I'm tired, I'm tired. Alcohol is definitely. I mean, we can run through a list. I've written a list of things that would be that I thought would be really, really great to touch on, but mostly it's just tiredness. But my weeks, to be fair, are cooked anyway, like if I have gigs like I, I, I am, I work like a shift worker.
Speaker 1:So even without the gigs, you work a lot like you do. I don't know how many spin classes every single week.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised you don't get onto the bike and tear the pedals off. Yeah, I should. One week that would be really good, um, traumatized. But yeah, I mean like sleep is probably the the biggest thing with. I mean because like, uh, if you're going out late when the parties, I would argue, often get better but often often get worse.
Speaker 2:But the worse is better Up to like 3 am for a night a week. Your sleep's going to be impaired and everybody says that eight hours is optimal. For most people it is optimal. Some people need more and also some people need less. But you're probably not going to get that if you're out to three or four in the morning doing your party.
Speaker 1:But I mean when I party I usually get out a little early so I can get my full night's sleep. Um, but another big part is if you spend four hours dancing, that is already a workout on your body. You're moving it and you absolutely deplete your electrolytes because you sit there sweating on the dance floor for four hours and then you wake up the next morning and you're basically only drunk water between then and like between the dancing in between you.
Speaker 2:Hydrating is very, very important but hydrating with electrolytes yeah. Alcohol that's another thing that often comes with partying Um, that is very inhibitive to muscle growth. You've done your own sort of research on this and you figured out like Andrew.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, let me tell I don't want to say that I've done my research on this. When I first started going to the gym probably two months after I started going I um had been to a workout with you and then my friends were going out and drinking and I was like, oh, alcohol feels like something that isn't going to be good with a workout. Like am I not going to get as much muscle growth? And so I googled and I clicked on the first article and the first article basically said it was not a medical article. It basically said if you drink in like the 24 hours after you go to the gym or soon before you go to the gym, your muscle growth is going to be impeded, and it didn't say by how much, and in my mind it was like you drink a beer after you have a workout. It cancels the workout. Yeah, which is probably not true.
Speaker 2:Alcohol and marijuana both have effects on testosterone. Oh yeah, where he's in Las Vegas and he's with his friend who's partying and they basically he goes through all of the stats and all of the studies they've done on alcohol which shows it's bad. But then they also go and do a workout hungover just to see what it's like and not going to lie, sometimes a hangover workout can like fix you up.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you sweat it out 100% If you're feeling bad and then you go for a workout. You can actually feel better, but also your performance more often than not is going to be way worse than it would be if you hadn't been out all night drinking, yeah, of course, off the back of reading that one article.
Speaker 1:It basically stopped me from drinking, not in a negative way, like I was fine to stop drinking, but I took it as oh, I can't drink the day that I work out and I shouldn't drink the day after I work out. And because I work out three days a week, that's six days in a week. Yeah, there's only seven days in the week. Yeah so at that point I'm what like. Why am I bothering to?
Speaker 2:drink. I mean I? I mean I've moved personally, moved further and further away from alcohol as my life has progressed. One because, like we do do so many of these parties and we put on these parties and we're going to lots of parties that for me to be drunk when. I do this stuff. It's not sustainable. Like I would be the worst DJ. Yeah, I'd be the worst DJ. But also you tell me that I would have a problem because we go to so much stuff so like I don't really drink.
Speaker 1:I also hate hangovers, so do I?
Speaker 2:I just I can't do it. We're sounding old now we are um, but we are old. I literally I can't function like alcohol. To me, of everything that I have indulged in and still do indulge in, um, when I go out, alcohol is the one that gives me the worst effect. Yeah, the next day, I agree, which we should move into these other indulgences and how they may affect you.
Speaker 1:Well, um, I, when I was younger, would get really high and go work out in the gym off marijuana because, like I would just get buzz, because, uh, it made me work out a lot better. Really, yeah, because your mind's not on. I think a big for me when I'm working out is my mind defeats me before my body does. Yeah, but when you're, you're just kind of vibing Like you're enjoying your little workout especially for cardio, having like getting just absolutely blitzed and then going and doing like a long run.
Speaker 2:I can't get behind that, like I don't smoke weed, so. But then you don't either.
Speaker 1:Not anymore.
Speaker 2:Like I, I mean going for a cardio workout after smoking a joint would be the worst thing ever.
Speaker 1:It's so good I think I'd rather die. I've got to tell you it feels great Because your body's just in tune with everything and you're just doing what you're meant to do. I get that.
Speaker 2:I get that. So when I was doing all of the gymnastic stuff through COVID, I also randomly decided I liked weight again for a period of about six months and I would get a little bit high or have a little bit of an edible and I'd go and just practice handstands. How fun and it is. It's really, really good. I don't know. I felt there was a bit of and athletes have talked about this particularly like mixed martial arts. I'm going to box them all in but like a lot of them feel like it really helps them connect with their body and stuff and I can kind of see how that would be a thing. But now I I can't do that because I just get horrific paranoia.
Speaker 1:So yeah, well, that's why I stopped as well, because I kept being like all my friends hate me, which is insane. Yeah, you know what I could deal with it if, when I was high, I thought all my friends hated me because then you won't be high and you're fine, you can be like it was crazy when I was high. It was when I would like wake up the next day and be like wow, my friends really do hate me. It's insane. It was I probably had that thought in my head, like rolling on and off depending on how much I was smoking for like a year before I went. Hmm, this is not a healthy thought pattern, is it? And then I? Well, maybe I'll just cut back on the weed for a little bit, and yeah, I know I won't go back out of fear.
Speaker 2:When we're talking about party drugs.
Speaker 1:Oh wait just one more thing on weed. One more thing on weed. While it can be really good to help your workouts, it'll obviously diminish your lung capacity. So it actually genuinely. If you're smoking it and smoking green, not just like vaporized stuff uh, it probably will like lower your vo2, yeah, uh make it a little bit tougher.
Speaker 2:Yeah, testosterone, oh yeah, do you know?
Speaker 1:um, uh, the printout receipts that you get in supermarkets are like really high in estrogen and people won't touch like people that are like really body bodybuilding won't touch them out of fear of like contact estrogen. Only soy boys touch receipts, yeah exactly exactly, so fucking crazy beta cucks picking up their receipts that's a new one.
Speaker 2:I haven't heard that one. It's good, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's very good, but on to the hardest stuff on to the hardest stuff.
Speaker 2:I mean uh, I think most of uh. What I've read is I mean, obviously, the way a lot of these things work is you don't sleep, because they mostly aim to get you up and also give you a whole lot of euphoria, particularly with substances like MDMA, ecstasy, et cetera. What you need to realize when you're taking those drugs, there's two things that will affect your training. One, you're going to start really late because they keep you up um. And two, you're stealing happiness from the days to follow exactly. So like I don't know about you, but often I've found it very hard to get motivated in the in the following days because I've zapped my happy yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's very fair. I quite like, if I go out on a Saturday night on the Sunday night workout, that I do. I like going and doing that as like a reset.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I for the like, for the first half of the week I'm sitting there in this like dour mood and being like, well, what's the point of doing anything? It's really hard to get motivated for it. Um, but it's a fun party like it's, I think, a fair trade-off, what. You're going to be a little unmotivated for half a week but you get to have like an amazing night yeah, um, so I think like I'm going to change the order of these slightly.
Speaker 2:You're crazy, uh, life enjoyment. So I this is something that, uh, I often find an interesting subject, particularly when we look at these people who are preaching like you can't party, you can't do this, you can't do that if you want to be your ultimate self or whatever bullshit they like to say on the internet. For me, I get enjoyment out of going to these things and hanging with a group of people who also appear to be having the best time ever, and I feel like if I decided that I would not do this at all any longer, it would make me very sad. And I also feel like there are people who don't understand and look at these parties and this behavior and go, wow, these people are so crazy, so stupid.
Speaker 1:Look what they're doing to their body. They're so dumb yeah.
Speaker 2:But really I don't think you can make that call until you've actually try to join in yeah, and I think this is um.
Speaker 1:So I think the thing is the people are going to preach oh, you've got to cut out all drugs so you can get a body like mine. Um, maybe it will help on a percentage level, but they are probably people that don't enjoy going out and doing like going out and partying they just might not, which is fine it always reminds me of the story of you know.
Speaker 1:people say, oh why is there like a typical swimmer's body, what it is about swimming that gives a swimmer's body, and it's not that swimmers or swimming will develop a certain body on someone. It's that people that have a body that's really good for swimming, this sleek like long muscled body generally go into swimming, because they're good at it, and so then you'll see these people and they'll have this generally like similar body because they're genetically predisposed to be good swimmers.
Speaker 1:If you don't enjoy going to the gym and you become a fitness sorry. If you don't enjoy going to a party and you become a fitness influencer, it is a very ripe field for you to turn around and say, oh and if you don't party, you'll get a body like mine, babe you just don't like it, you can just not like that.
Speaker 2:You don't have to preach that this is like the right way to go forward because you specifically don't like to do another activity. Yeah, exactly, um, but yeah, and I think also making people, people feel bad for the choices that you, that have nothing to do with you, is absolutely.
Speaker 1:I hate it. Like giving people guilty for something that's enjoyable is like it's just such a sad hobby. Yeah, and I I've. Maybe they enjoy making people feel guilty about hobbies. They enjoy that and I'm now making them feel guilty for enjoying that hobby. I'm yucking there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe potentially, but also, like I have this huge thing where I think, like a lot of fitness people need to get their head out of the mud and actually see the world for what it is and get the fuck out of the gym and go outside because, like I've been there personally and I'm only speaking to my experience and what I've you're like, I'm not saying everyone's like this, but I there was a period of my life where I was very much just all about that and I could have kept going on that road and maybe being one of these people who bash all this great stuff that people love and enjoy. But I realized that there is way more to life than looking like looking really good and not socializing and abstaining from everything.
Speaker 1:I think there's way more to life for us, for that us if they want to go and stick their head in the sand.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent but, I don't think it's a necessary step that you cut out the things in your life I just hate it that they're potentially taking, like, if you pick up a client, you go, you go. No, you can't do that anymore.
Speaker 1:I just think that's wild.
Speaker 1:That is wild. That's really sick. So there is, I think, going out and partying maybe will stunt a little bit, but it's like what we talk about with. Like, when should you have your protein powder after your workout? If you don't have it immediately after, if you had it two hours afterwards, you're just going to get 95% of the effect. You know, but that 5% is not going to make a huge difference. Like you're not running for these tiny little numbers and if you aren't going to enjoy your life because you're trying to get these tiny individual percentages on everything that you do, what's the point?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Balance is really key and, like I, there's a study that I always talk about when they look at people who actually live the longest, they all smoke, they all smoke. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:Pick up a cigarette today, they're called blue zones, right, and basically what they've discovered the common links are between all these blue zones is this immense social connection. So, like these people who are like having big dinners and like, uh, a lot of religion, obviously, because it's large groups of people hanging out together, what, what is it a party if not just going to a church and not talking about god and dancing and all the shit they do at church?
Speaker 2:you're right so I mean, I think there's a whole aspect of that that people don't think about when they, when they bash it, um, drugs aside, because, like I mean, like I don't, I, like I said I can't, I don't really get that coach anymore. I don't think you need to get super fucked up to enjoy something unless you really want to, unless you really want to, and there's no judgment there either. Yeah, but, um, yeah, yes, as you said, can potentially hinder progress a little bit, but balance, yeah, exactly. If you're going crazy, like, and you're going out maybe every night, um, and drinking, like I said, would be the worst thing that I could possibly do right now, it's going to be very hard for you to put on muscle, let's be real, but that's it in an extreme case to go and enjoy yourself from time to time, it's totally fine, yeah, and if you start thinking it's too much here, I'll give you a yardstick.
Speaker 1:if, if you look at a grand bag of MDMA and think I hope this gets me high enough to enjoy tonight, maybe reconsider. If it's anything before that. Call your fucking jets Like you'll be fine. There was one more thing I wanted to touch on.
Speaker 2:Cool, I've got another thing as well, but it's a fun silly, I was going to talk about the problem with abstinence, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So like this whole and we talk about this lots in a lot of episodes that we've done when we talk about diet and restriction and binging, often like classic examples when you do a 12 week cleanse cleanse or challenge and you abstain from all these things. Sometimes, when you take a big break from something and then you go back to it again, it's like you just get really, really fucking cooked. So that's also something to bear in mind and something that I've learned in my experience with, uh, going out with my friends who, like, don't party either because they have, like kids or other responsibilities, they feel like they have these things that that prevents them from partying when they go out, they just get so cooked. Bless them, it's great. But also I'm like, wow, I don't think I'm, because I I guess maybe it's because I'm experienced I just don't do it that much. So actually finding a way to do it so you're not just so blitzed that you can't actually enjoy yourself or remember anything yeah, there's, there's that.
Speaker 1:I think that's a whole thing, that what you should do is a little drugs every day, just a little Wake up and just have a little dip of MDMA.
Speaker 2:Pussyfoot you in. But yeah, just, I don't know, be reasonable if you're going to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, and if you do take these long breaks, just be cognizant that obviously your tolerance.
Speaker 2:Is going to be a little bit lower and also your Understanding of what your body can take into.
Speaker 1:It is going to be muddled.
Speaker 2:And just because you're away from the husband, the wife and kids does not mean you need to go fucking bananas. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Set a good example. What if your baby was at the club? What would it say? What if you? Brought your baby Goo goo ga ga, but in a negative way.
Speaker 2:All right, what was your funny cute?
Speaker 1:thing. Well, so we've talked a lot about how drugs can affect your workout. I want to tell you how your workout can affect your drugs. I have a friend I don't know if I should tell the story. I won't give any details about this person. I have a friend who is very fit but had never done MDMA before, and they were going to a festival and they were like I'm going to try some MDMA, how fun. And then they got. It was like a pill and a half, it was like nothing yeah very reasonable amount and they had it.
Speaker 1:It wasn't even a pill, it was a cap and a half yeah they had it and then they don't really remember anything and they wake up in a hospital bed with their parents over them, worried, and what had happened? Was they like do all these marathons and stuff? And so their body is really incredibly good at taking the nutrients out of everything that goes into their body because it's using so much of it that it had basically like super loaded their blood with MDMA and they just basically overdosed. This party from a pill like a cap and a half.
Speaker 2:Oh, did she take it all? I don't know who it is. Did they take it all in one go?
Speaker 1:They took it. No, well, they took one. And then obviously the classic, like half an hour later they're like this hasn't affected me, and so they took the other one, but even then a cup and a half is I would never take. I don't. Yeah, that's like breakfast for some people, I guess I guess it is anyway. Um, so if you want to get more bang for your buck in your drugs, get to the gym applies to generally the fitter you are, the more, the faster you're gonna get.
Speaker 2:And also, if you train like directly before you start drinking, you're gonna get drunk really. But we've already talked about how fucking bad that is.
Speaker 1:But you know it's going to save you money. It's an expensive world out there.
Speaker 2:We've just spent all this time telling people not to get too fucked up and then, right at the end, go. But if you want to get really fucked up, well, you know it's a cautionary tale.
Speaker 1:If you don't want to get too the gym, go get a PT.
Speaker 2:So, so funny. Thank you so much for listening to well. Basically, if you want to find Andrew, you can find him at the beer bag investor. If you want to find Mikey, you can find him at Well. Basically, mikey, if you want to find me, you can find me at well. Basically, send the podcast is at that we've made for the episodes. You can ask us questions there. Don't ask us for drugs, okay, we don't even know what those are. What's a drug, a droog? Yeah, I've actually forgotten what we just talked about. Yeah, how are we going to record the intro and post who?
Speaker 1:knows, we'll see. You'll have already heard it at this point.
Speaker 2:Okay, you're true, that's true. Go on about your day, that's it.