Well...Basically
Well...Basically
177: Potty Prognosis
Ever wondered if your toilet could one day diagnose illnesses? We explore the wacky world of Ig Nobel Prizes with a special focus on a Stanford scientist's smart toilet invention. This high-tech loo can analyze urine and stool to detect diseases, but not without raising some eyebrows! We tackle the privacy concerns and technological hurdles of having a camera in such an intimate space, all while sharing some truly amusing anecdotes about bathroom habits and unusual nicknames for bodily functions.
And it doesn’t stop there! We shift gears to discuss the benefits of exercise on brain health, drawing inspiration from Lorna Hinstridge, Australia’s oldest woman at 110. We marvel at quirky longevity tales and highlight a study that challenges the limits of protein absorption post-exercise. To top it all off, we embark on a flavorful exploration of pepperoni and reminisce about nostalgic treats like microwave puddings.
Articles from the Episode:
Smart Toilet Ig Nobel Prize: https://shorturl.at/Bx34J
Exercise Helps your Brain: https://shorturl.at/m00t0
Australia's Oldest Person: https://shorturl.at/q8V9s
Maximum Protein your Body can Absorb: https://shorturl.at/FXpAS
this is well, basically with your host, mike de silva, and sam weeks on today's show.
Speaker 2:mikey's back from his hiatus. We talked about that for a little bit and then we addressed some news andrew bought in a news bulletin. We cued the news music. It'll happen. Maybe at some point we talked about toilets that can tell you if you are sick Protein intake A really old woman. And what was the other one, andrew, can you remember?
Speaker 1:I can't remember. Oh my God, oh it was that physical exercise. Does it help your brain?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we don't know, but we did by the end of the show. So if you want to find out, hang around, Listen. We hope you enjoyed today's episode. Just to just Basically.
Speaker 1:Well, basically, Okay, check, check One two three, four, five, six, seven, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 8, 9, 10 I can't hear Mikey, it's.
Speaker 2:Ah, he, he's not talking oh. I see it's weird how microphones actually don't make sound unless you speak into them.
Speaker 1:I thought really good ones could just pick up your voice even if you won't speak.
Speaker 2:It picks up your internal monologue or your conscience, it knows what you're about to say and records that we wouldn't have to come in.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We could just all huddle in a corner of this room and look at the microphones and just think real hard. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That would save a lot of time.
Speaker 2:How have we been? Mikey's been absent for two weeks. I've been jet-setting, jet-setting. Yeah, he flew all the way to New Zealand. That's as far as.
Speaker 1:I like to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I prefer not to go that far?
Speaker 1:How was the flight?
Speaker 2:Was it fine. Yeah, the one back wasn't great Turbulent. Yeah, I took a little mini plane back up to Auckland.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:And it was foggy as crap and so the lights are flat. How long is the mini plane flight? Is this from road to road Vegas? Yeah, 45.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, nice, that's not bad.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, that wasn't great and you were jammed in and also my luggage didn't fit in the overhead, so I was extra jammed in.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see you had it on your lap. It was hugging your luggage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the other flights weren't so bad, which was great for my flight anxiety, because I didn't die in a plane crash. Well, that's good. That is really good. Yeah, it's really nice for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd be proud of that not dying in a plane crash.
Speaker 2:Small planes. I mean, it didn't come down to me. I didn't do much to prevent that. You thought positive thoughts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love small planes, do you? I find them such a pain, especially being an incredibly tall man. Yeah, you need leg room.
Speaker 2:I need more than leg room. I need, like torso room, ear room, as an incredibly tall man. What other problems do you face on a daily basis?
Speaker 1:On a daily basis. None, it's absolute heaven On a plane basis. It is my worst nightmare.
Speaker 2:It's like knees by ears for, like a transatlantic flight. You know it's a lot of and they keep getting smaller and smaller. It's crumpling.
Speaker 1:It's fine when people are like oh, we don't want to make seats bigger for fat people because, you know, then they're getting rewarded for blah, blah, blah. I don't care about them, I want a bigger seat, I want more room on that. Oh, the tickets are gonna go up by a bit. Whatever, I just would really like to sit on a plane and not leave with some kind of like skeletal muscular disease, you know, some kind of permanent change to how my spine forms.
Speaker 2:It's rough going. It's rough going and being able to travel, I mean, yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1:But you know what you should be able to complain about. Whatever you want to complain about, there's always going to be someone that has it rougher, and right now I have the roughest.
Speaker 2:Ah yeah, sure We'll get out our tiniest violin. You know you have someone that's like very underfed.
Speaker 1:They're like struggling to survive. You put them onto a plane seat. That'll be like a palace. So swings and roundabouts, babe, Start to death. Be really tall. You never know which option would you take. I'd probably take really tall.
Speaker 2:It's a hard life. I've actually been listening to heaps of Minecrafts lately. Lots Uh-oh.
Speaker 1:I know, are we allowed to?
Speaker 2:Nah, you can't, yeah separate the art from the artist.
Speaker 1:He was a great artist, just a bit of a nonce, have you.
Speaker 2:You know, I didn't know what that word meant for the longest time and I was calling people nonsens, just for the hell of it. Oh, fucking call, oh my god, chloe, go away. I've got to record a podcast, don't you know that? What word, nonsense? Yeah, what does it mean? Pedophile?
Speaker 1:I thought it just meant a homosexual. Well, that's problematic, could be.
Speaker 2:could be. Yeah, pedophiles, don't discriminate.
Speaker 1:No, could be, could be. Yeah, pedophiles, don't discriminate.
Speaker 2:Welcome to episode 177. Seven, I'm pretty sure it's seven? Was it 76?, 77?
Speaker 1:No, because 77 is a double point here and I feel like I would have remembered it last week as a double point. Yeah, true.
Speaker 2:Andrew's doing the editing. He's doing a great job. Everyone give him a round of applause. Thank you, thank you, thank you. A couple of gunshots, guns in the air. Michael, he was so good. Prince was better, but Michael's very good.
Speaker 1:Your namesake Mikey.
Speaker 2:That's true. Thank you for that. You did, you guys watch the doc.
Speaker 1:Uh, there were two of them that came out at the same time and I think I saw both two episodes of the same no, it was. I thought it was. Two documentaries came out about michael jackson and one was from like, the perspective of the victims and another one was from like the industry perspective. I think, oh, I whoa, okay, I didn't watch the other one. Yeah, I put a little voice memo together and say andrew was wrong.
Speaker 2:I think there were like two episodes and they're focused on two. There's a lot of twos. They're focused on two kids, well, but except they're adults. Now there was some unusual situation. Yeah, well, it was that that's. I think that that, how unusual it was, is why I found it so compelling. I was like you can't make that up, like you really can't make that up. You just can't be doing that sort of thing Too niche.
Speaker 1:Maybe I was wrong, leaving Neverland and Neverland First Hand.
Speaker 2:Oh, there were two. There were two, both 2019. Oh interesting, he, there were two, both 2019. Oh interesting, he's got a biopic, biopic, biopic. Whichever, it doesn't matter, I don't care, tomato, tomato.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who's making a biopic about Michael Jackson? Someone, wow, ned.
Speaker 2:Venance. Yeah, check their hard drives why music was so good, though.
Speaker 1:It was really good.
Speaker 2:I'm honestly like in my spin classes, like I'm now finding where I'm teaching. It's the demo is a little bit older and it's like I have to just play old music and Michael.
Speaker 1:Jackson Old demographic.
Speaker 2:Michael Jackson always hits real hard. Everyone's singing along.
Speaker 1:I'm like Just play Grimes, only Grimes, in your spin class and watch these people keel over. No, they would never.
Speaker 2:With love.
Speaker 1:That's fun.
Speaker 2:You get to play your own music though. Yeah, that's why I left Les Mills. It's gone. It's gone.
Speaker 1:Worse Well, you were telling me about Les Mills, that you have to pay as an instructor to learn how to instruct the course so that you can then instruct it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And quarterly for the classes, that's insane.
Speaker 2:Well, how else are they supposed to make money? They've got to train their employees, surely? Yeah? But like if they say that a whole lot of gyms licensed. This is a good lesson for people who don't know how this mills works. Not that I'm any, I don't have a heap sense of knowledge, but basically this is my understanding of it is that your gym Les Mills classes are very popular and they're very, very good because they have a really good and Mikey that was a bit Mikey, okay yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, there, they have a very good name in the industry, right? Um, so they look good to have on a timetable. Um, so classes will, like gyms will pay fees in order to have the like licensing fees to have the class there, and then if you want to instruct that class, you have to go through the education that you pay for to teach at that gym, and that's what your gym pay for you to take some gyms do some don't okay.
Speaker 1:Um, I my understanding from when you said it was that you were working at a les mill gym. I was, and you had to pay yeah of course Mill gym. I was and you had to pay yeah of course.
Speaker 2:That's psychotic. And then you have to pay each quarter for the new release. Do you get money from all of the people who do the class? When you teach it? They don't give it to you. No, you get paid a fee, like you work as a contractor, and you send an invoice which in New Zealand is like 30 bucks.
Speaker 1:Which is not much. It won't even cover the.
Speaker 2:You learning how to pay it and then you're quarterly, maybe in a year. So I used to get it for free because I was on like the uh presenter squad.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah it's a hot piece.
Speaker 2:Sounds fancier than it is and then now I don't pay and I get really irked if I'm like this music is terrible because I'm paying. Like 60 bucks it's awful, it's too much. I hate it. Bucks, it's awful, it's too much money.
Speaker 1:I hate it, I just that's such a, that's such a rort.
Speaker 2:So now I preview it. So my friend at the gym buys it and I'll preview it, and then I'll be like no no, thank you, and that's a no.
Speaker 1:I haven't bought one in a long time. I can't believe you have. You have to pay, like. Surely your gym would pay for that $60.
Speaker 2:No, because they're paying a licensing fee.
Speaker 1:So they're already paying, but they're making the cash off you doing the class. Not that much Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm learning something new every single day.
Speaker 2:It's like a draw card for members right. If it was wildly popular again, maybe yeah. But yeah, numbers are struggling. Numbers are not that great in New Zealand either. We did a peak time class and there were what did you do? A tech? No, Really. Strength development. Oh, how was it? There were parts of it I liked.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:There were some other parts.
Speaker 1:I wasn't crazy about have you done?
Speaker 2:shapes. They've just picked up shapes. I was trying to do shapes but I missed Square, yeah.
Speaker 1:Triangle.
Speaker 2:That's what happens. The instructor just yells a shape and you have to do it. Yeah, but so Britomart peak time, there were 15 people. Four of those people. Britomart has always been getting quieter and quieter. What's Britomart? Britomart, it's a part of Auckland. It's like near a train station and the harbour. Yeah, but it's not not people around.
Speaker 1:I thought that was the name of a class.
Speaker 2:The floor is very quiet as well. Oh, interesting, so it's not just group fitness.
Speaker 1:It's winter. It is winter. Everyone's given up?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't need to be hot until the end of the year. Yeah, that's when it's too late.
Speaker 1:Hey, do you guys want to hear some news?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's a good jingle I like that.
Speaker 1:So a whole bunch of stuff has happened, happened and I picked out some of the news that I think is fun and silly. And I want to start with my favourite topic Do you guys know what the Ig Nobel Prizes are? No Do you know what the Nobel Prizes are. Yes, it's for excellence in science. You do something that's so groundbreaking that you need to be rewarded on the global stage. The Ig Nobel Prizes are like that, so. So it's for groundbreaking scientific research. Except the research is kind of funny.
Speaker 2:Okay cool, so it's a little silly.
Speaker 1:So a Stanford scientist has won an Ig Nobel Prize for their disease-detecting smart toilet. What this toilet does is it's from a former urology instructor. His name is Seungmin Park.
Speaker 2:This is in Korea. By the sounds of things, he's probably from.
Speaker 1:Korea. But the Ig Nobel Prize is global, From the whole world.
Speaker 2:Where are the toilets located?
Speaker 1:Oh wait, actually no, he's. What did it say he was from?
Speaker 1:He's probably American or Canadian or something yeah, stanford science, so he's a Stanford. Yeah, so he's in America, but he sounds Korean. Basically, what the toilet does is it looks at your poos and it looks at your wheeze and tells you if you've got diseases. Uh, he's designed this thing with a whole bunch of like, like gizmos and stuff. Some of the stuff that goes into it is like urinalysis and some other kind of urology. I think they're different, where one of them does like a dip and tests the chemicals in your way to be like oh, you're dehydrated or you've got bladder cancer or whatever. Wow, um, the other one looks at, like the colour and viscosity of your wee which raises a question with me Is your wee ever not just like liquid?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wonder how thick it can get. Jelly coming out. But they ran into problems with one of them because the one that does the viscosity and the colour. You need cameras and they were like really worried about sticking cameras in the bottom of the toilet because, if you like, sit down. Their worry was your genitals hang into the toilet and so they were.
Speaker 2:I think they ended up having to oh.
Speaker 1:Sammy. Well, how in love.
Speaker 2:Are they hanging For?
Speaker 1:American toilets. You know the American toilet. Water is very high oh it's true.
Speaker 2:They would just be pointing sideways these cameras. It's very disconcerting. You feel like you're gonna fall in. There should be a little tray that pops out on a robot arm that catches your piss and then pulls it into a camera compartment. Have you seen that video of this guy?
Speaker 1:he's on a podcast. He's on a podcast and he was like oh, you know, I just hate shitting because you get shit all over your hand. And they're like what do you mean? You get it all over your hand, you. And they're like what do you mean? You get it all over your hand. You're like that's what the toilet paper is for. He's like, yeah, but like when you poo, you like get it on your hand from the poo. And they're like what are you talking about? Like you just wipe with the toilet paper. And he's like what are you talking about? Do you just let it drop poo's in his hand? Oh, I've got a funny story about this.
Speaker 2:Oh, go on. So I'm not going to name any names because I mean it was probably quite traumatic for this person back then Do I know? This person? No, you don't. This is in New Zealand. But someone told her friends that she was in a bathroom at school and she didn't want anyone to know she was taking a shit. So she did exactly that. I think she put toilet paper on her hands. Let's assume she put toilet paper on her hands to catch the poo and then gently lower it into the water to make it sound.
Speaker 2:But that's she. How did everyone find out?
Speaker 1:well, she told her friends, and then her friends also told a bunch of us, and she had the nickname poo catcher that's a real strisand effect thing To try to hide the noise of you pooing because you're embarrassed about you pooing being such a big story that you become known for pooing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but also just poo catcher. What a nickname.
Speaker 1:So the smart toilet performs urinalysis, and euflometry is the other one I was thinking of. One of them deploys and retracts. A strip becomes soaked in urine, which is, I think, a disgusting way to describe it. Don't yuck someone else's urine.
Speaker 2:We're kind of kinky actually.
Speaker 1:And then this strip is read for a whole bunch of different biomarkers to see things like diabetes is a really common thing you can find in urine.
Speaker 1:The other one catches details of urine flow, such as flow rates and time elapsed, which I guess you can get a high score if you can. But yeah then, uh, nice, oh, they got really stuck with the cameras and so they. I think they just left those ones out. Um, it can also do real-time defecation analysis is what it's called. So a camera captures a stool as it falls into the commode. So okay, okay, yeah, and during this time it's characterized by categories like the Bristol stool form scale, which does the shape of, and there's like consistency of poo and defecation duration it has. So if you'd spend a while sitting on there, so if you're like an ice cream or a yogurt.
Speaker 2:Letting the tap run that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:There's a whole bunch in this article about who's privy to the sensitive information about health. I honestly don't give a fuck if someone wants to buy data about my poo.
Speaker 1:More power to go for it people should pay good money, um, for that, uh. But then the article goes on to say this has a lot of very good benefits because it can help people in, like rural areas that might not be able to access a urologist yeah, um, and also it means that people can be more aware of their health. But also the negatives of this is it's just like over, um, this over monitoring of people's health. So you've got smart watches and things where people are always aware now of what their bpm is, or always aware of there's arrhythmia or anything like that, and so they become really anxious about all of their different health issues and go on, and so you might see your poo. I don't need that. Your poo gets like a bad score or whatever happens in this thing. I need to do something about my shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah and you go straight to the doctor. But one of the good things is usually when you get a problem with your wee or your poo, you generally just have to describe it to the doctor and the doctor has to assume what you've told them is true. But if you can just hand the like old 80s style fax paper whatever rolls out of this thing, like the ticker tape over to the doctor and be like here you go.
Speaker 2:Or what's wrong with me. I've got an idea, though. Okay, we can take the machines out of it, cause, as we know, machines are taking away a whole bunch of jobs already. You get your doctor. There's a tank, okay, underneath the toilet where he sits. He lives there it's like an aquarium, right and he watches it all happen. You can't see him, but he can analyze from his viewpoint. So they just need to do public toilets that a doctor lives in permanently, permanently, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he can be like pull the levers to make you not leave. And be like you need to actually go through this door to your doctor's appointment now, because you're quite ill. They named a whole bunch of different kinds of cancer they could find from this as well, and one of the things they said is it could do like phlegm analysis. So you're like, I guess you'd like poo and then just spit into the toilet afterwards and teach a lesson.
Speaker 1:But I think there's another fix to this that is kind of in the same vein as what you've done. There are so many people on Grindr that would like pay you to poo in front of them. There's just so many of them. I think the government should be retraining those people as physiologists and urologists. Yeah, and then they do it for free, they do it for the passion of the craft. They'd like watch people poo every day, every night.
Speaker 2:But would you feel comfortable? I mean you need a background check on a lot of these people and also what are they doing with it afterwards?
Speaker 1:That's not for you to ask. It's time for the taste test Chocolate Next article.
Speaker 2:You didn't like that one. I really liked it we weren't loving it.
Speaker 1:That's sad. This is quite an easy one. It was, actually. I mean, this is medical research that has been proven time and time again. But there's a new study again that shows exercise can boost brain health. Um, so, uh, this study um found that even moderate levels of physical activity, such as taking fewer than 4 000 steps a day, can have a positive effect on brain health, which is, uh, much less than the often suggested 10 000 steps. Do you wait? Have you guys told me this where the 10 000000 steps came from? It was a pedometer company trying to sell pedometers, yeah 10,000 was just like a nice round number to slap onto it and be like this is the recommended amount.
Speaker 1:So this like idea that you need to do 10,000 steps a day.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, I mean like I've always coached to me because I'm really important to call you um, uh, it. I like if people want to do the steps thing, it's always like you see how many you're doing and you, if you, you, can you go from that base. So if someone's doing like a thousand steps a day, it's like okay, well, let's just try to 500 extra steps and steps a day yeah, just make me going between my desk and my fridge when I work at home, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:some people do be like that, though More power to them. It also talks about different things, like the role that exercise has on brain health when added to other studies for things like diet, stress reduction, stress connection. There's, I think, 10 metrics that they had for like Alzheimer's, and I can't remember all of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, it's like also, when you are a physically active person, you also tend to think about all of those other things like sleep, nutrition, all that other stuff. So it's like a. It's often really hard to boil it down to one thing. Yeah, it's an amalgamation, an amalgam.
Speaker 1:Amalgam, a big, big old amalgam, lots of arms, um. And it also connects it to things like development of the gray matter in brains, which is where, like, memories are.
Speaker 2:That's the most delicious part of it.
Speaker 1:It is, yeah, the juiciest bit. So maybe something we all knew, but it's been proven yet again that just move a little more and your brain will work until you die. Maybe, speaking of brain and work until you die, there is a very short story here about the oldest woman in Australia. Take a guess how old she is, unless you saw the article.
Speaker 2:I did, did 106.
Speaker 1:Good guess. I saw the article, oh nice. Well, what is it then? Sammy 110. She's 110 years old. Wow, that's quite old. And do you know what? From the pictures of her, I would say she is not a day over 95. People who are really old don't look really old. No, don't look really old. No, the clock swings back around. They Benjamin Button at the very end of their lives. So her name is Lorna Hinstridge. She turns 110. I scanned this article to find out what her secret was, because do you know what I would say? Four out of five of these articles, the person who gets to like 110 smokes, and I'm always loving it, I always love it. They're like I smoke a pack a day, I live the best life ever.
Speaker 2:There's a guy in New York I think he lived to like 116 and he was eating like white bread fried in back fat, not bacon fat, and he said that bacon fat was too lean and that was like his breakfast, lunch and dinner. And I'm pretty sure if a doctor came in and was would be like what the fuck are you doing? Let's get you eating fruits and vegetables. He'd die.
Speaker 1:And he'd have like a week. That reminds me of the meal that the guy was forced to eat in Cold Blood. Do you know that Truman Capote book? He only when he was a kid ate it was like stale bread in condensed milk and that has just stuck with me. Condensed milk's really good. He had no teeth. I mean it's like so sugary, is that?
Speaker 2:because he couldn't? Was it because of the condensed milk? Or because he was eating the condensed milk because he had no teeth?
Speaker 1:No, it was the other way around. He'd lost his teeth because he'd been eating pretty much nothing but condensed milk.
Speaker 2:Mmm Yum.
Speaker 1:Condensed milk. Anyway, she's lived a very, very long life. Very exciting, but she's quite old. I don't know if I'd want to live to 100.
Speaker 2:Did they talk about what she does for like to live so long?
Speaker 1:Oh, so some of the things that she had that she did talk about. She said I don't really know what it is, but in the article her daughter mentions that she is basically always active, but not active like she's going to the gym and lifting heavy weights, but if she's like ill or feeling down and her daughter says do you want to go out and do something?
Speaker 1:she's always down to go out and do something. She's kept a very good social group around, very heavy on the like friends and connections and also found the social connections.
Speaker 2:Baby, we love talking about that stuff the blue zone.
Speaker 1:It's such a beautiful color, boy's color, uh and um uh.
Speaker 2:Also she attributes a little bit to genetics that apparently her family all lives quite long yeah, the next one's really interesting because I have one side of my family that are like gonna like all of them live forever, and then the other side is very different maybe you'll cholesterol, diabetes. Maybe you'll get to like 60 alzheimer's.
Speaker 1:You'll live for a really long time, but the last, like 50 years of your life will be awful. That's what I'm really hoping for you know. Collie too.
Speaker 2:She's just going to look after me.
Speaker 1:Where's my?
Speaker 2:spam sandwich. We have zero Alzheimer's, but they're all just out the gate mad as headers. Oh cool, so you're going to go crazy. That's great, just really daft. And or blonde, yeah, blonde, how my nan drives into ditches and stuff. Do you mean blind? No, no, she can see.
Speaker 1:He means blonde, as in stupid yeah, his hair's never going to change.
Speaker 2:She's kind of smart in a different way but she's a little bit daft, is that hairist yeah?
Speaker 1:it is hair blonde, that's not nice, so I'm gonna be oh fully you fully aware just probably be doing stupid shit. Yeah good, that's what we want stupid shit.
Speaker 2:When you're old, it's the point of getting old it's, you can go in and be rude to people yeah, and drink prune juice and spam sandwiches prune juice.
Speaker 1:uh, I've got one more and I loved this article when it came out. I didn't read it when it came out out, I'm not that on the pulse, but when I saw it absolutely loved it. The title of the it's a medical article, it's a real, actually verified one is the anabolic response to protein ingestion during recovery from exercise has no upper limit in magnitude and duration in in vivo, in humans.
Speaker 2:Okay. So basically it's saying that you can eat as much protein as you want in vivo, in humans.
Speaker 1:Okay so basically it's saying that you can eat as much protein as you want, yeah, so the idea was apparently the the the understanding of protein ingestion after working out is your body can take in a maximum of 25 grams and at that, after that point, your body's basically discarding the rest.
Speaker 1:What they did was they got a group of 20 something ish men, like 20 something ish year old men, so it's a small like section of the human population, but are they trying to use like the most physically fit at the time?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they got them to do 60 minutes of intense workout and then they gave them either zero, 25 or 100 grams of marked protein. So what they did was they put an isotope onto the protein so they can track it in their body. And then they isotope onto the protein so they can track it in their body, uh, and then they um, so they ingested one of those three amounts until, um, straight after the straight after the workout, post-workout window, like within an hour, yeah, exactly, that's precisely after. And then, 12 hours later, they took a little biopsy of some thigh muscle so they had to give up a little of their muscle and then tested how much of the marked proteins were inside their body and they found that it doesn't matter how much they had, like up to 100 grams, they were still showing signs of more being absorbed into the body than the 25 grams Did they do?
Speaker 2:like because you piss it out, don't you? I can't remember what happens to additional, I can't remember. Anyway, yeah, that's super interesting because, like you said it was, but like I wouldn't go eating, I mean you can eat 100 grams. I've done it before when I used to do the intermittent fasting, like OMAD, one meal a day. I would just eat a giant meal after training and be okay. Do they mention that like you have to be in that state of like? Not that the post-workout window really exists, but you have to have trained in order for the maximal absorption or anything. Yeah, so this is only done on people that did it's post-training. So I mean, and men only so women, you actually?
Speaker 1:can't eat 100 grams. Well, we don't know, it's not tested in this specific study, um, but what's interesting? I mean, this is very, very fresh, um, and also, you know this idea you don't actually have to have 100 grams because it's uh, I don't know what the shape of it is. I think it's called a logarithmic, where it starts out really sharp and then goes, speed is off to less sharp. It's always going up but it gets less. You know, if you have 500 grams of protein, it'll only be marginally better than, like, 100 grams of protein.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but, like I will say, think about your poor poor.
Speaker 1:You're going to need that toilet. You need the toilet testing of yourself being like ah the toilet will explode because it's like too much beef. It'll get too buff too much beef, too many rats yeah, that is interesting. So, yeah, this I mean I wouldn't take it as like absolute gospel that you need to like eat a ton of protein but don't. The idea is people want you to have small meals spread throughout the day, so I know a lot of people that bodybuild will do like five little meals through the day.
Speaker 2:It's maybe not as necessary to do something that restrictive and controlled, yeah, but that's been that's kind of been known for a while that you don't need to do that, but people still swear by it because it's good for your metabolism eating those five, six meals.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what it is. It's not good for your metabolism eating those five, six meals. I'll tell you what it is. It's not good for your metabolism. It's that you can constantly be like I've got to have my protein meal.
Speaker 2:Look at me, all the way through the day, every group of people you see virtually signaling your protein yes, exactly look how buff I am. I'm eating more protein I don't know if it's about metabolism, but I think there has been some good stuff on having positive effects on hypertrophy. Get the words out. Yeah, just eating regularly with similar amounts of like your macros. Yeah, also digestion. But there's no mention of like and satiety as well. There's heaps of stuff Because people say that protein's filling. I sometimes don't feel that at all. I do. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I just wonder if that Two eggs.
Speaker 2:will that fill you up?
Speaker 1:I have a five egg omelette.
Speaker 2:That's good. Does that fill you up? It does. Do you cut spam into it and then put it in a sandwich?
Speaker 1:No, I put Can you do that for me when?
Speaker 2:I'm old, I put Hungarian salami. I will do that for you. Give me my extreme sandwich.
Speaker 1:And a ton of cheese. An absolute bucket load of cheese. Salami I haven't had salami for a while, spicy salami.
Speaker 2:Question what's the difference between salami and pepperoni?
Speaker 1:Pepperoni has pepp corns in it salami surely has pepper corns salami has salams in it, oh right maybe it's a regional thing, it might be just different names. I mean, they're like, how many different names of cheese are there?
Speaker 2:they're all cheese, yeah, it's true, we should just call everything cheese, really, I mean it all looks like cheese.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna look this up. It's important information well, it's the most important thing it's just.
Speaker 2:It is a flavor like all cured meats. Sporkedcom has the answer. And there's pastrami as well, but I'll accept that pastrami is different because I think that's a different kind of meat.
Speaker 1:Okay, do you know how these fucking excuse my French these articles are always like? The main title of it is what's the Difference Between Salami and Pepperoni? The first subtitle is what's the Dif between salami and pepperoni? The first subtitle is what's the difference between salami and pepperoni? And then they don't answer it. And the next one is so what are the differences between pepperoni and salami? Oh yeah, they always do this, yeah. And then it says is pepperoni salami? Yes, pepperoni is a type of salami.
Speaker 2:Oh, subsection, subsection.
Speaker 1:Pepperoni is mixed with a mixture of beef and pork, leaning heavier on the beef side. Pepperoni is packed with red pepper and paprika, giving it a much spicier kick.
Speaker 2:That's right, it has that red oil yeah. It's like chorizo, I guess, is kind of in the same pan.
Speaker 1:It's probably a kind of pepperoni. I'm not going to Google any of the differences.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what the episode title is going to be Types of pepperoni. I want pizza. Yeah, same, I love pizza so much. Thank you so much for listening to. Well, basically, if you want to find Andrew, our news broadcaster, you can find him at the bareback investor. If you want to find Mikey, you can find him at WellBasicMikey. If you want to find me, you can find me at WellBasicMikey. And Well, basically saying, the website is wwwbcplcom. On that website it's pretty green. Yep, that's all I have. Verdant, I would say Like a forest, like a forest, green apple, apple, what else? This is an old bit. Phlegm Moss.
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Speaker 2:True, I'm jello, jello, jello. I love my aeroplane jelly. Go with the frog Aeroplane jelly For me. You know, I don't actually I've never seen that ad before Because we don't have aeroplane jelly in New.
Speaker 1:Zealand. What do you have in New? Zealand? I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:It's some sort of jelly.
Speaker 1:But Colby's sung it before when I've made a jelly Yams.
Speaker 2:Pans.
Speaker 1:Pans jelly. We have a brand called Pans.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you guys have Pans here.
Speaker 1:We might. I've never seen them.
Speaker 2:They used to do those little puddings that you put in the microwave. They come in like a oh, and you flip it and it's got the goo at the bottom. So, oh man, that's just good. Well, basically that's salami, but is it?