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Well...Basically
187: Murder on the Gymfloor
On today's show, we tackled some current events.
24-hour gyms, should they be looking after people better? A gentleman was locked in a bathroom for a whole day. We talked about it!
Then we moved on to the Crossfit Games. Unfortunately a very sad tragedy unfolded. We discussed whether Crossfit planning was too much or if it was a failure of those running the event.
We hope you enjoy today's episode!
Articles:
Gym safety in the spotlight after bodybuilder collapses and isn't found for 15 hours
Australian athletes voice safety concerns following death of Lazar Dukic at 2024 CrossFit Games
this is well, basically with your host, mike de silva, and sam weeks on today's show we tackled some current events.
Speaker 2:24-hour gyms should they be looking after people better? A gentleman was locked in a bathroom for an extended period of time. We talked about it and then we moved on to the CrossFit Games. Unfortunately, very sad tragedy unfolded. We also discussed that is CrossFit programming too much or was it just a failure? On behalf of the divers and the people running the event, we hope you enjoy today's episode. This is Downtown.
Speaker 4:Stop singing that Downtown. We're not playing that. That's a hate crime, Sam, All the power put in the hands of the straight man preventing us from listening to.
Speaker 1:Who sings Downtown?
Speaker 2:I gotta keep this show.
Speaker 4:A little heavy. Yeah, yeah, you know, broad appeal.
Speaker 3:Broad appeal is important. Petula Clark's straight.
Speaker 2:Well, when you say it like that.
Speaker 4:Welcome back.
Speaker 3:Mikey, that was very mask, thank you, Mask for mask. I'm going to get a Petula Clark. I can't say her name T-shirt Petunia Clark. Petulia Is it. Petulia.
Speaker 1:No, it's.
Speaker 3:Petulia. I just can't say it. I keep putting a Lulia at the end, petulia at the end, petula Clark.
Speaker 4:Petulia, what did you get up to in the last week, mikey? Last two weeks.
Speaker 3:I went to work and I tried to do the work, and there's too many works. You're having your job, don't you? Yeah?
Speaker 2:How's being a fitness manager?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a lot man. Do you still need me to come teach a?
Speaker 2:class for you. I need you to take over all the classes for me.
Speaker 3:Thanks, okay. No, it's a like it's a big task. I've only got 14 hours. Uh, how do I explain this concisely? I feel like, uh, group fitness is in a funny space, like it's not as pops as it used to be and it's a little bit dated. And so, trying to refresh a timetable within a budget a minimal budget and invigorate instructors that are very, very good, that have been there for a while, it's a lot to try and figure out.
Speaker 4:You've got to light that fire?
Speaker 3:Where are people moving their fitness?
Speaker 4:if it's not, group fitness now.
Speaker 3:Oh, there's just so much more out there, right Like there's Barry's Everyone's doing Pilates yeah everyone's loving the reformer.
Speaker 2:My most popular class is the stretch. It's crazy I had too many people this week.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean like I'm not short on ideas, but we only get to put on like I couldn't put on a stretch class, for example, because it's a big company. You know what happens in a big company you have to have approval.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah right, why would stretch need an?
Speaker 3:approval. So like your creativity is like blunted.
Speaker 2:You should just do a downward dog class. They've got to hold a downward dog for 45 minutes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, just do one where people lay on their back just call it purgatory, that'd absolutely go fly off the shelves. All you need to do is market it right and be like this is the new fitness become dog all anybody in the world wants me included is the easiest possible way to get fit. And if you tell people, oh, if you lie flat on your belly and stare to the side while you listen to the music that we play and you'll get thin, you'll fill the room you'll have people stacked on top of each other or your money back guarantee, yeah
Speaker 2:you just don't eat in or around the class.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's called the uh, the monks um it's called being a sponge.
Speaker 2:You sit there and you filter food. Yeah, body sponge.
Speaker 3:yeah, we've also had the smell of sewage in the that's going to put a damper on it.
Speaker 4:That's going to be rough.
Speaker 3:And it won't go away. So things are going well, things are swell.
Speaker 4:You could say, damn, you've got to stop shitting in that gym, but you can always go Downtown. What about?
Speaker 1:you.
Speaker 4:Sammy, how's your week been? You listened to some bad music on the weekend.
Speaker 2:I heard oh yeah, we went to the nightclub my favourite nightclub and I didn't. I was confused by what?
Speaker 1:happened.
Speaker 2:To be honest, because the person who I went to see Usually makes very nice music and I just I hated it Because of the music you just played, but my friend played before and it was very good, so I got that. The shame was that Connor and a bunch of friends came for that headliner who, like both rooms, were just really bad.
Speaker 4:If it's any consolation. They were all hyped before they left to go, so it's not like they were. They were like well.
Speaker 2:I guess it would be like no.
Speaker 4:but if, if I told my friends, oh, come out to this thing, and they went, I guess we'll check it out, and then it's bad, that is bad. But if I went, hey, do you want to go see such and such perform? And they go, yeah, this is going to be the best thing ever. And then we all go and it's bad. At least we're all like we were all duped.
Speaker 2:All of us were fools. Yeah, I sent that trigger.
Speaker 3:That's for your hatred, for Fortuna.
Speaker 4:I thought I was in purgatory.
Speaker 3:I thought I'd been sent to hell.
Speaker 2:That's what happened. That's what you get, yeah yeah. So he did that and then just fart sounds with heaps of re-bite. But you kind of would have loved that you would have been beside yourself. I think I might get over that eventually.
Speaker 4:You, I know If it's not happening by now. Whatever age you are right now, it's never going to happen. Yeah, yeah, farts will always be funny to me. It'll only get funnier because you do funnier farts when you're old, do you Real?
Speaker 2:Okay, I've never done one of those?
Speaker 3:No, I haven't got to that stage yet.
Speaker 4:No, that's like 80 plus.
Speaker 2:I've never done Something to look forward to. I've never shit myself before. What about the fart that goes no.
Speaker 3:What's happening to Uranus? I don't understand.
Speaker 2:Well, did you know that Uranus is a planet?
Speaker 4:Actually is it famously not a planet?
Speaker 2:It's famously a star, isn't it? No, uranus is a planet, are you?
Speaker 3:sure.
Speaker 2:Can you confirm this for us, please?
Speaker 4:She can't do confirmations while music's playing, so unfortunately after this she can confirm.
Speaker 2:I don't think she needs to, but she can confirm that Uranus is not a star. She hates music. She's got her fingers in her ears.
Speaker 3:There was a planet that wasn't a planet. That's probably a planet again. They're practicing their dry run for asteroid impacts soon. Oh, who wins? We're going to get hit.
Speaker 2:Wow, I'm getting. Another thing that's happening is I'm getting. Oh, by the way, this is a really nice song by a friend. That's awesome.
Speaker 3:Oh, by the way, this is a really nice song by a friend, sorry Jack, it's just so.
Speaker 2:Sony doesn't come after us.
Speaker 4:We've got to put nice stuff on the top of it.
Speaker 2:Perfect, beautiful Manny's got a good voice.
Speaker 1:Voice of an angel.
Speaker 2:Are you ready? Look, I played it in the front.
Speaker 4:Ready, here it is oh, was that you, Sammy?
Speaker 1:Wow, wow, that was big, huge.
Speaker 4:Very good song. You're an international artist, apparently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been doing a bit of Session Week lately.
Speaker 4:I really enjoy it.
Speaker 2:Could you tell me what Session Work is? So I show up and Jack goes play the saxophone, like this for me, and I do it, and then we also record a bunch of other stuff and then they are allowed to use whatever they want and I just I charge a fee, nice have fun.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's fun. Do you get to kiss?
Speaker 2:I mean, if I could that wasn't requested.
Speaker 1:It wasn't requested.
Speaker 4:But if it was, it's on the table.
Speaker 2:I might add a little something to the invoice for that. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Are you going to give us a welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I completely forgot. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Episode 187 on a motherfucking car, nice.
Speaker 4:I was waiting to do that. Nice, I was waiting to do that.
Speaker 2:I was waiting to do that. Last week. Famous Snoop Dogg song Welcome. First time listeners. Second time listeners, third, fourth, fifth, you guys who listen every week, we love you quite a lot. The most, number one, number one, actually. Pikelet comes first. Yeah, our editor. Yeah, svetlana's. Okay, svetlana, how you doing in the back?
Speaker 1:I'm doing well, sami Uranus is now, and has always been, a planet.
Speaker 2:Oh, the song's so nice and melancholy and like I don't know what else to say about it besides it being good. It's beautiful.
Speaker 4:Yeah, maybe perfect music. I think that's it.
Speaker 3:Does Svitlana have an accent?
Speaker 4:She's been talking on our episodes, but I don't know how many you know her accent. She's in the room. She's in the room with us. She's here right now. I have this.
Speaker 3:Okay, I was trying to backtrack, I don't hear accents.
Speaker 1:That's so woke of you.
Speaker 4:I don't see colour. You really are the future, Mikey, she's a lovely Russian intern. She's a bit lippy.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be honest. Yeah, she's had an attitude the last couple of weeks, but we're going to be peaceful this week. Yeah, we're all friends.
Speaker 4:I feel like I went too far. Last week she also went a little far. She said she was going to bend you into a pretzel. She did say that that is aggressive.
Speaker 1:They don't even eat pretzels in Russia.
Speaker 2:I'm like how is this a good joke? No, no, Fuck you Sven.
Speaker 4:You're out of here.
Speaker 2:You're out of here. Okay, so we are going to talk about some articles. Roll the news music please. Article, article, article. Well, we've got two. I brought one and, andrew, you bought the other one so what would?
Speaker 4:I've got a half one um, why don't we kick off with mine, cause yours is quite heavy and, I think, a meaty main event. Yeah, let's end with darkness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:The jovial little smile Haven't left it. This is a quite a recent article I think it was. It was from yesterday in the ABC and it says gym safety in the spotlight after bodybuilder collapses and isn't found for 15 hours. So basically, a Perth bodybuilder, giuliano Perrone, was found in a shower cubicle after being in there for 15 hours. He went in at 7 am and came out. Well, actually I say he didn't come out. Police had to break the door in at 10.30 pm, um to let him out, because no one had noticed for the entire day that he was in there with the shower running that's really easy to happen.
Speaker 2:It's I used to work at a 24-hour gym.
Speaker 4:I can see how that would happen yeah, so this was a 24-hour gym and actually this is the whole thing about you hope his feet weren't hanging out the end or anything well, that would be a little obvious I think.
Speaker 4:I think people would have picked up. Well, you don't know. So basically, he passed out in there and was left for the entire day. He was taken off to the hospital. They're wishing for a speedy recovery. I don't think he's passed on yet, or won't, I'm not sure, but his family's come out and been. Like this is a gym issue. It's a safety issue with the gym. They should be checking. And the things they said were why isn't the bathroom cleaned more than once every 15 hours? And they have a duty of care to care for people, anyone on site as an alternative, just to give what the gym has come back and said, they've said we obviously can't monitor people in the bathrooms. The whole point of a 24-hour gym is that it's very sparsely staffed, which is why it's kind of effective cost-wise. And they're, like you know, know they don't check people in and out of the whole gym. So if someone doesn't like beep their way out, they just leave. They're not gonna like send the police to find them on site yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 2:And also, like those bathrooms do get cleaned quite regularly, this isn't anytime, it wasn't anytime.
Speaker 4:Fitness no, I can, it's uh, I can find the name for you, um, but keep talking about it, well.
Speaker 2:I mean, I used to work at a 24-hour gym and the cleaners are there every day, but if the door's locked, it's a 24-hour gym, so you assume that somebody's in there, and what's the? Alternative you go door knocking before you finish the shift, just to check that everyone's okay.
Speaker 2:I mean, that would be the only option that I can think of. That would be good. So the person who's on last, like the manager, he usually stays till like it's not staffed or anyone knocks on all the doors. But even then, if someone goes late, it can still happen. So I don't know what the solution is, unless they want to pay more to have staff there the whole time.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, so the head of, I think, Oz Active, which is like a gym body in Australia, was like you know, we can look at this and say, oh, we need stuffing 24 hours, but the whole thing is that'll make these gyms too prohibitively expensive for people like normal people to drive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 4:Juliana, not Juliana. Svetlana is going to tell us the name of the gym now. The news hasn't reported which gym it was but it was a 24-hour gym in Wanneroo, Western Australia. She's a good producer. She knows what she's doing.
Speaker 2:She's a smart lady. They didn't talk about any pre-existing health conditions or what exactly happened.
Speaker 4:No, they haven't mentioned any of that, but I mean. My things with this are first of all, pegging this as a 24-hour gym issue is not fair because it started. He dropped dead I'm not dead passed out at 7 am and came to at 10 30. Those could be normal gym hours for a regular gym like that gym just could have been open and then it would have closed for the night and they would have been found anyway. So he got found in what I would consider like extended business hours.
Speaker 3:Um, I think he was feeling unwell before he went to the shower, though, was he yeah, maybe he shouldn't have gone into the shower.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so if you're not feeling like, maybe he should have brought someone in the shower with him.
Speaker 3:I've had people come and sit in the office to say I'm not feeling well, I'm just going to sit here for a bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, cool, just hang out here for a bit, it's fine yeah, I also think if he'd passed out, say 20 metres down the road after leaving the gym, this whole story would be about how, oh, gym people are throwing themselves in health risk because they're putting their hearts in danger and blah, blah, blah. So it's whatever bend you want because one single dude passed out in a gym Like one lad. This whole thing, if they like have to reform 24-hour gyms because one guy passed out and was sleeping for 15 hours like that.
Speaker 3:It's insane I mean, we have um little. When you go in after hours, there's little oh yeah glasses that hang up, so you have like a little emergency button.
Speaker 2:That's cute. Yeah, yeah, that's very sweet. Those two, well, we used to have those. I don't have them here, obviously, because I don't want people coming to my house at all hours to exercise.
Speaker 4:But how often are gym bathrooms cleaned? Every day, but once a day, yes, oh yeah it's kind of disgusting well, they kind of.
Speaker 3:I think they're meant to be clean more often than that, yeah, but it's just so you don't know like you go in. You hear the shower. You're not going to wait around knocking the door, yeah they say this in the article as well.
Speaker 4:They're like if someone, you, if they're not working in that bathroom for like 15, 20, 25 minutes to see that that shower is being used for that whole time, they're obviously not going to know that it's the same use if they go in again later, you know.
Speaker 3:And, like I said before, it could be a different like cleaning team member.
Speaker 2:It's not. Was he using exhaustion as hormones and could it be related In which?
Speaker 4:case, I'm going to show you a picture of his face and you tell me if you think he's using them, I mean maybe it's impossible to tell Both of these two are nodding at me, but I don't want to say they're nodding frantically, Shut up shut up, shut up.
Speaker 2:But you know, like that's a whole other thing, that like it's like well, that's not the gym is responsibility if you're doing stuff, because like that can happen. People die young from taking steroids, so um there's also that anyway.
Speaker 4:So there's also that Anyway, that poor man. I'm glad to hear he got up and moving.
Speaker 2:But it's just not a gym issue. He's still. Is he okay? Is he out of?
Speaker 4:hospital. The article does not say yet, but he went to hospital and they probably would have said We'll follow it up next week.
Speaker 2:We'll let you know.
Speaker 4:Okay, speaking of death, moving on to article number two yeah, time to go down the hill.
Speaker 2:So CrossFit, something I've always been a huge fan of if you've listened to the podcast, no, no, no, Okay, I like some things about it, Mostly the fact that it has got. When it first started and I don't know if it's still as popular as it once was it actually got people into doing gymnastics. You know what's the difference between CrossFit and, like Barry's? Crossfit's just way more hectic and it turns out it's getting even more hectic by the sounds of things.
Speaker 3:Crossfit when I was doing, it was generally like you would come in and there'd be a bit of mobility. You'd have like a main lift or a couple of main lifts that you'd kind of drill through, generally in a strength kind of situation, and then you'd have a workout of the day that would usually incorporate that lift or some variation than a whole lot of other exercises, a mix of gymnastics and body weight and kettlebells and barbells and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2:The intensity is very high.
Speaker 1:It's called.
Speaker 2:CrossFit, because you're doing pretty much every form of fitness. Really You're doing weights.
Speaker 4:Is it the same as F45?
Speaker 2:F45 is like soft core CrossFit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's weird, and Barry's is like a mix and barry's is like.
Speaker 2:barry's is like a lot of floor work and treadmill stuff yeah, yeah, kind of like orange, but I haven't been. I haven't been for a while, so all this stuff might have changed but I found yeah, I found my crossfit experience good.
Speaker 3:You can always like stop working out if you, if it got too much, I think it also I think it also depends on who's designing the workout, which to me is probably what's happened here.
Speaker 2:So at the CrossFit Games this year there was a gentleman by the name of Lazar Dukic. I'm guessing that's how you pronounce it.
Speaker 2:I believe, yeah, I can't read. Okay, yeah, true. So basically in the swim part of the CrossFit games he died. Oh my God, he just dropped dead. Well, not dropped dead, he obviously was in water, so it's very hard to drop. Maybe he sunk dead. But basically a bunch of the CrossFitters who take part in those international games are a bit concerned that it might be a bit tough, which I would say probably if someone is dying doing the actual exercise that's prescribed. And sometimes those CrossFit games are mad.
Speaker 2:Who is programming those? I remember I watched a documentary on it a couple of years ago. Actually, one of the competitors was an Australian guy who tested positive for drugs, because a lot of them are doing that as well. But, um, they were saying like who's in the middle of it? They're like who's written this? This is really stupid. Like some of the program I think is probing is quite willy nilly, and it's a similar thing with, like, group fitness and that kind of thing. Um, you have to update what people are doing or change the thing that people are doing on a regular basis, so they're continuously challenged. But I think people overdo it in that regard and then usually what happens is the class becomes unteachable and the class that you're trying to teach can no longer actually do any of the movements that you've been told you have to teach them, which I've experienced multiple times.
Speaker 4:I don't know about you, mikey is it partly as well that, um, when you're making these group fitness like activities, you want them to be like kind of flashy, so people be like I remember that, like I remember doing that thing.
Speaker 2:That was like a new exercise that I did with whoever yeah, it's all a marketing thing, like I like this whole program sort of based around like looking like an athlete and like doing stuff, but like the reality of the situation is a lot of people who are doing the class aren't actually competitive athletes, they're just normal people. Oh my god do.
Speaker 4:You know what? You could probably make a killing if you just did workouts that look really hot, like arnold presses and stuff that just make your body look really hot while you do them. And then you also hire a professional photographer every time you do a class that's group fitness and then you take this, write it down mikey, you can get a million people in it. They don't have to be effective workouts, just things that look really overestimate.
Speaker 3:They can share on social media.
Speaker 4:You would just be rolling, oh my god, this is.
Speaker 2:You're completely being sarcastic, right now.
Speaker 4:No, I'm genuine, that's literally marketing for like fitness all right, yeah, how do you think? They market it. They should do that for run clubs.
Speaker 2:Run clubs need to get they do, they do do that.
Speaker 4:This is all marketing more, it's all more branded.
Speaker 3:I think run clubs are the new, like tinder or something. Yeah, I remember seeing how it go on that, so yeah, anyway, uh, I thought, anyway, go on.
Speaker 4:So, um, uh, I want to hear more about what were they doing. What's the like?
Speaker 2:so he, finished a five kilometer run and was doing an 800 meter open water swim when the tragedy unfolded. In a live stream of the incident, Dukic can be seen struggling to swim before disappearing underwater, despite life guides appearing to be only a few meters away. So also the lifeguards.
Speaker 4:Well, they say a few meters. He clearly starts going under and you can see people diving in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you watched the video, but there is like there's like meters and meters and you know, meters in swimming is a really long time. People aren't sprinting 10 meters in the water and then you see them drop down and everyone's like because it's murky water as well Everyone's like what do we do? Where do you go? Where are you buddy? Yeah, it's so, it's rough, it's rough. I think it could be a CrossFit issue. I also think very, very fit people would have signed waivers so they can go on this kind of thing. I think the failing is that they weren't lifeguards close enough to get someone that's sinking under murky water.
Speaker 1:Because once they go like a meter down.
Speaker 3:You've got the potential to die in any sport. People have died in all sorts of things. These things just happen we've.
Speaker 2:We had two people, what only one. One person passed away at les mills from a heart attack, but another person was teaching that class, not me I was the d-fib man. I've been the d-fib man two times um anyway, that is interesting.
Speaker 4:I still think I from what I saw in the footage. I know almost nothing about this, except for that footage. Uh, with murky water that murky you need to have some kind of way of identifying them, whether it's like a flotation thing that sits on the back of them while they swim, or something. Give them more mohawks. All you need to do is get a thick balloon and tie it to your ankle.
Speaker 2:As opposed to a thin balloon. Well, if you've got got like a thin, regular balloon.
Speaker 4:It'll pop in the water, but it just needs to sit on top of the water and that way, if you go under, it's not going to hold your body up, but it's going to have something bobbing on the top of the water while you I mean what do the olympics do when there's triathletes? They just let them die that's just.
Speaker 2:That's part of the game. Can you imagine if this happened in the olympics, like they have whole search and they're searching rescue teams.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:They have water dogs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it's super interesting but like I mean, it's just another excuse for me to head on CrossFit, really, because I think it's you know?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I've never done it. I should go to these. That'll be a good little exercise for us.
Speaker 3:I'd love to go to.
Speaker 4:CrossFit. Send myself to an F45, send myself to a CrossFit, send myself to a.
Speaker 2:Barry, popular as it once was.
Speaker 3:I don't think so. I think there's just so much variation out there that people are doing their 45. They're doing the barriers. They're doing their, their pilots.
Speaker 2:Well, CrossFit's quite expensive for memory.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not as expensive as barriers. I think barriers is like 38 bucks a class.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:CrossFit you. I think you can still get in for like 60 bucks a week, which is like reasonable compared to some of you know, like an F45. But yeah, like everything it depends on. I mean, you're probably a little bit safer with traditional group fitness because it's not as intense. But yeah, if you've got a good coach, anything can be good, anything can be bad.
Speaker 4:How can we mitigate dying at the gym, like ourselves? I'm not going to talk about trying to save someone else. How can we make sure we don't die? Listen to your body. That's a really good point, thanks.
Speaker 2:Go and ask for help.
Speaker 3:Yeah, go and ask for help, go and ask for help instead of going to the shower, if you don't like crying.
Speaker 4:Before we went on hikes and scouts, we would go to the police station locally and say, hi, hikes and scouts. We would go to the police station locally and say, hi, we're going on this hike, this is the route. We're going to be back here in this many days if we're not send out the search and rescue. I think you should do that go to the police and drop in before you go to the gym. Be like I'm going to the gym, this is the gym. Uh, I'm going to be back here in an hour and a half it's the only solution.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's the only solution they're're going to get inundated Hundreds of listeners are going to go into police stations and say I'm going into the gym.
Speaker 3:In all seriousness they should have. I don't know if they should do this at 24-hour gyms, but you always need to be using safety bars. Use machines instead of free weights if you're on your own. All that kind of stuff to, because you never know when you're going to get stuck under a bar and if there's no one around at a 24-hour gym especially dangerous.
Speaker 2:I think it's fun in a busy time.
Speaker 4:It's um, you taught me this because I go to the gym quite late hours. Um, uh, the only exercise that I won't clip the ends on, uh, any of the exercises where the bar is above me, so I can get stuck. So if I really, really stuck, I can tip the weights off the sides.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you can just drop us a barbell as well If you're squatting, yeah.
Speaker 4:Or I know I mean we're seeing professional people get snapped in half.
Speaker 2:I've taught people how to do that. You just drop it and walk forward.
Speaker 4:Also with them any of the time when the weights above me and can trap me. Would do with Sammy watching over me.
Speaker 3:The danger with that, though, is like people will tip forward. So if you've got the safety bells there, at least you've got a backup.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and just have something set low.
Speaker 4:But like I mean, I think if you've done all that and you die, good luck to you.
Speaker 2:That was news as well basically. Thank you so much for listening to. Well, basically, if you want to find Andrew, you can find him at Zabear Back, investor, not with a Z, with a T. If you want to find Mikey, you can find him at Well Basically, mikey. If you want to find me, you can find me at Well Basically. The website is wwwwellbasicallypodcom.
Speaker 3:It's a website. Did I leave the stove on? Oh, I always worry about that.
Speaker 4:It does smell like smoke, does it? Yeah, sweet Llama, can you go turn the?
Speaker 3:stove off please. That's why I have a Google camera, to make sure my house isn't burning down. Is your house burning?
Speaker 4:down. No, oh no, call the fire brigade.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've got a bunny camera here as well. Where it's the camera with the bunny ears up there, so dumb, so cute, just like a bunny. Basically, that was the news, wasn't it? It was.