Well...Basically

191: Question Time: Cardio, Dieting, and Mental/Physical Tiredness

Well...Basically Episode 191

On today's show we talked about life, we talked about music, and then we got into some fitness and diet related questions from you!

One was about increasing cardio, or eating less food to lose weight. Another was about if there are any good reasons to start dieting. The final one was about differentiating between being mentally tired and physically tired, and how we should manage our fitness routines around that.

Very good questions! We had a very good time, a laugh and a giggle.

We hope you enjoy today's episode!

Links mentioned in episode:
Honest review of Chinese Laundry - https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGdJ5geFS/

Speaker 1:

this is well, basically with your host, mike de silva, and sam weeks on today's show.

Speaker 2:

We talked about life, we talked about music and then we got into some fitness and a diet related questions from you guys. One was about increasing cardio or eating less food to lose weight. Which is preferable, um. One was about any if there are any good reasons to start dieting, and one was about differentiating between being mentally tired and physically tired and how we should manage our fitness routines around that. Very good questions. We like them. We had a good time, we had a laugh, we had a giggle. We hope you enjoyed today's episode.

Speaker 2:

This is Are you just enjoying the sound of your own?

Speaker 1:

voice. Yeah, it sounds so nice in the headphones. I get to hear what all the people around the world get to hear. No, that's Don't.

Speaker 2:

Lucky them. That's what happens when you talk normally Whoa.

Speaker 1:

I don't think the sound in real life is as high quality as the sound that's coming from this microphone into my ear.

Speaker 2:

You should just put earplugs in when you talk to people.

Speaker 1:

In that way you can hear I should have a whole podcast set up just for my whole day. I'll have like a little like a fold-out tray that's on straps over my shoulders and it'll have my mixing deck on it, and then I'll have headphones. It'll be like a one-man band in public, but it'll just be a one-man podcast and only you will actually know, because you're speaking out loud, yeah but other people can hear it.

Speaker 1:

but also I'll have like foot straps like a one man band, so I can do that. How are you going to do that with?

Speaker 2:

your legs.

Speaker 1:

You just put like a. You know, when you see the man with the one man band and he puts like a strap around that beats the drum on his back.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So he's like marches around.

Speaker 2:

How does it make that sound, though?

Speaker 1:

You just hook it up to the to the mixer. When strap is pulled, mixer go. I don't think this is going to work for you. I think that's a negative mindset to take into. What is probably the most revolutionary thing to come out of this podcast Is the one man podcast.

Speaker 2:

The one man podcast don't exist. Yeah, no, they don't exist, strolling around the streets like a bass drummed man. Someone's going to send us a message if someone you know is doing that.

Speaker 1:

We are not going to get a message about that. This is fresh.

Speaker 2:

This is like my idea last week, the one oh yeah, the dating app where you can only match with one person at a time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a good idea. I feel stifled. I feel my business ideas aren't being flourished here.

Speaker 2:

Well, we need to get our A's into G's and A into G. What does A into G stand for?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I've never heard that saying before in my life R's into G. Oh, yeah, I'm going to say that. Yeah, that is good, get our A's into G's. Yeah, how have you been, sammy? How are you feeling?

Speaker 1:

I'm a bit tired today, to be honest, but like that really reset my body clock to we did just have daylight savings yeah, but needing to sleep now because I'm staying up really late and then I train people in the morning oh my god, early in the morning and then, um, I usually have a nap and then I'll go back to work again yeah, I think that studies would say that your body can't be trained to need less sleep, that there's people that are like I just run on less energy or just run on less energy, but they just cause like long-term damage to themselves.

Speaker 2:

I think there, I think some people handle it better. Yeah, I don't know if it's like health-wise any better, like there's people who like physically handle it um better, but like mentally, yeah, sure there's some people who can like deal with I agree.

Speaker 1:

But then you watch a zombie film and you see someone that gets bitten, that can hide the symptoms for a really long time well they mentally.

Speaker 2:

What movie is?

Speaker 1:

that um 28 days later. I've never seen that. Then I can claim that that happens in 28 days later, with impunity.

Speaker 2:

You haven't seen it either. I know you haven't, because you hate movies.

Speaker 1:

You, you don't know that for sure. I do know that for sure. What's the prequel? 28 Hours.

Speaker 2:

Later. No, it's Days is First, and then, 28 Years Later, no, you've got to go Weeks First. That's your name. That is my name, you're correct.

Speaker 1:

Wow, yeah, I could have watched that. You haven't watched any movies. It is a possibility that I have um, and in that film it's also a possibility that someone gets bitten and hides the bite from the only movie you've seen is the counter monocrystal. That's the only and shawshank redemption okay, yeah, and marley and me, yeah and uh, and then despicable me too just the second one. Yeah, none of the minions movies not yet, no, but I have watched the.

Speaker 1:

I've watched the scene where it talks about the history of the minions and about how, um, didn't they build the pyramids? Well, I don't know if they built the pyramids, but they always follow the most evil person in the world. But when they're telling the story, because it goes the whole story of like ice age through to grew, yeah, shockingly, the minions are like trapped in a cave between like 1930 and 1949. Oh, yeah, makes sense, because I don't know if they wanted to align the minions with being anti-semitic yeah, with a bunch of oh my god, that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

So good of them yeah the minions to hide who like I. If that was like I would not have that as a plot point. If that was the case, I think.

Speaker 1:

I think the whole point is that it's like, oh, these minions have always existed, or maybe it's like a joke for like adults yeah, I think it was a hundred percent, I think it was.

Speaker 2:

They were like oh, suddenly in a cave all the adults were like I know, yeah, but who were they following before that?

Speaker 1:

uh, there's a whole bunch of people like Genghis Khan. I'm pretty sure he's in there. Okay, he killed a lot of people, yeah, yeah, he was just trying to expand his empire. It's true, that's all he was trying to do?

Speaker 2:

He wanted to praise the mountain God. You could say the same thing about Logan.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, lebensraum, we know, look, you're right, you're right. I don't know if we're quite yet at the point of getting the debate of who is more evil.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't think we're thinking Genghis Khan or Hitler, but it's true, they had similar goals. Yeah, very similar goals. Wow, I'm tired.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this week's been good. I saw you for two little sessions you did I don't have anything um crazy interesting is happening.

Speaker 2:

We got to the gig on saturday? Oh, yeah, that did?

Speaker 1:

we talked about how the gig went well last week. That was thought it had already happened oh yeah, we pretended now we know for sure it did go well.

Speaker 1:

We saw a really funny tiktok, which I can link in the bar. In the bar, yeah, where a lady said I went to chinese laundry for the first time. It's a great space, I love it, but people are just like ripping ass in that, like um in the underground area, in that dank room, and I gotta say I didn't smell any farts but I wasn't in the whole room all the time it's it's true, though it is true there, it does happen down there but it went well.

Speaker 1:

You guys packed that place out. Yeah, it was good. It did get cut a little short by the daylight. Savings change over there.

Speaker 2:

We still played for the length of time we were supposed to.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but one of the hours that you were playing didn't exist.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but that's okay. Yeah, that's okay, it's all okay. What the hell? We haven't played the song yet. Am I crazy?

Speaker 1:

We need a little song.

Speaker 2:

I think you got it prepped as well. I do. I'm ready. Brat sucks this album's way better. Hey boo, I'm not joking. Everything on this album. 10 seconds of any song on this album is better written than any song on the road album.

Speaker 1:

You could love this album without hating Brad. I think, this is for the good girls. This song For the well-behaved ladies.

Speaker 2:

It's definitely not, though man Earworms, the whole thing, pretty much the whole album. Little writhing earworms. Yeah, they just stay in there and they writhe. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Episode number 191, baby 191. Holy hell, we're almost up to episode 200.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Airhorn Good sound. Welcome to First Time Listeners. Second Time Listeners, third, fourth, fifth you guys see a listen every week. We really appreciate your listen A lot. You know who doesn't need any more listens Sabrina Carpenter.

Speaker 1:

Do you think she's a carpenter? Do you think she has ever decided to dabble? I feel like if you have the name Carpenter, you've got to give it a try.

Speaker 2:

You have a kind of obsession with carpentry. No, I just think it's neat. I mean, when you meet a housemate, gary, who is a carpenter, you really like you talk to him about carpentry for a long time.

Speaker 1:

How many carpenters do you meet in your life? Also, the most famous carpenter in the world. The greatest story ever told Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2:

Well, I didn't know that about Jesus. He was a carpenter's son or a carpenter. Do you son or a carpenter do?

Speaker 1:

you think he um? When they put him up on the cross, he like looked at it and went, shoddy, this is shoddy work.

Speaker 2:

Maybe he was really impressed like wow, this is holding this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe I mean it did, it did hold them yeah, and when he flipped the tables, do you think he was actually not angry at the fact that they had commerce in the church? But he was flipping them because it was like these are badly made poorly, poorly constructed tables.

Speaker 2:

Who trained him? Is there a whole section in the you can tell? I guess his father.

Speaker 1:

Well, his fake father, yeah, what was his?

Speaker 2:

joseph yeah, joseph, maybe he just came to earth fully skilled and I mean you'd hope as a son of god just like he healed the blind.

Speaker 1:

How tough would it be to nail two things together?

Speaker 2:

yeah, but god could probably do that thing they do in the Matrix, where you want to learn something straight away, you just go, uh.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, you don't know that.

Speaker 2:

Except it would be more um, I don't know what it would be more God, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's just, instead of it being, green numbers, it's like golden golden numbers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, but couldn't articulate it Cause my brain is a little bit way.

Speaker 1:

You're a poor brain. Anyway, yeah, I do love carpenters and Sabrina Carpenter, the second most famous carpenter.

Speaker 2:

I would say she's a carpenter of great Carpentress, carpentress, carpenter woman.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you with the last name Weeks. Surely you enjoy a good long week, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I love, honestly, I can look at calendars. It's your favorite unit of time, it is Weeks. Yeah yeah, I'm a week away. Yes, always a week away. Always a week away, never a week. Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, great chat, good intro. We've got some questions. Question, question, question, question, and I should put that out. That's a track.

Speaker 1:

I love that. That's a banger. It really is. At least it's under Strange Cadence.

Speaker 2:

That's literally the first thing I even. I didn't even make it in Ableton, I made it in the software that you used.

Speaker 1:

Audacity.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh my God, the Russian spyware. Yeah yeah, very stupid. Okay, three questions, listener ones, we love it. Question one hey guys, do I need to increase cardio or eat less food in order to lose weight? Is there a preferred way to do it? Interesting question because, you know, we don't generally talk about that stuff here. But, like, we will give recommendations because you know it's good to give information. Information is power. It is power.

Speaker 1:

First thing to know is that being skinny is the best. Oh yeah, it's number one 100. The one goal you should have with fitness is not, uh, enjoyment of your life. You shouldn't feel good, you shouldn't have any real tangible benefits, except for one aesthetic one that you in your mind have decided is the, the part you want to get at, and that is mercurial. That will change with your shifting emotions at any day. That is the goal of fitness.

Speaker 2:

That's actually it. You've got it, andrew, thanks, wow. If you have those feelings that Andrew just described, that's Stop listening.

Speaker 1:

Now this is not the point. No, actually do listen now, because we're going to give you some advice.

Speaker 2:

We will give you some advice. Let's see. I mean, we could go in a real deep dive here and go. First of all, why are you trying to lose weight, like? What's the reason? Yeah, there's a whole bunch of stuff to dig into, but practically, if we really let's say this is, let's pretend that this is a bodybuilder preparing for a show and they need to lose body fat to um get on stage, which is like probably the only time I would ever suggest doing this. Or, if a doctor suggests it depends, okay, yeah, not all doctors are great um hashtag. Not all doctors. Yeah, not all doctors. Yeah, uh, well, I would say one is actually easier than the other, um, and one is definitely more effective than the other. What do you think it is, andrew?

Speaker 2:

uh, surely it's reducing food. It is indeed reducing food. Calories in, calories out. Baby. Yeah, I hate that statement but why?

Speaker 1:

it's physics? Yeah, it is, andrew. Uh, surely it's reducing food. It is indeed reducing food calories in, calories out. Baby. Yeah, I hate that statement.

Speaker 2:

But why it's physics. Yeah, it is physics, basic science, yeah, um, the problem is your body usually fights against that and you, like, will just be more hungry. So I mean, like, bear that in mind, uh, person who asked this question, uh, you, you'll, you'll generally be pretty hungry now. There's some things you can do to make this easier, and you don't want to. I don't really want you to think about this as eating less food, because that way it's already going to seem tricky.

Speaker 2:

My suggestion is to find foods that will fill you up but are less calorific in general. So you're doing like food swaps for things, and it can be really easy, like, let's say, for example, you're having two slices of toast with two eggs in the morning. Find a toast that has less calories in it. Or I can't think I can't think I got to find eggs that have less calories in them. But you could also just like instead, I mean I, you could do like a like a one egg yolk and a two egg white scramble, and that way you're still getting like similar amounts of protein, but you probably drop the calories by like 50 or so. I hate encouraging this behavior, but it's also like this is kind of what, what you can do if you're a bodybuilder about to get on stage, and these are some of the things that they incorporate.

Speaker 1:

Also you can um, uh, I mean, I like the mindset of adding to reduce. It's all you should just be like you know add a salad or something onto the meal so that you're not eating, you know if you're having an ice cream like a magnum, like almost every night, get like a frozen yogurt pop or something.

Speaker 2:

So you're still getting that frozen dessert treat.

Speaker 1:

But it's just you know just freeze water into ice cubes and eat those that's also also delicious.

Speaker 2:

That's the worst suggestion I've ever heard in my life.

Speaker 1:

What are you?

Speaker 2:

a fucking Labrador.

Speaker 1:

What you do for a real treat. You have it's called hot and cold soup and you get your ice cubes and you boil a whole bunch of water and you put the water into the cup and you drop the ice cubes in and you drink that. Zero calories, no.

Speaker 2:

That's the worst thing I've ever heard. Delicious meal yuck. Replace all meals with that ice cube and also artificial sweetness. Sprinkle that on oh for sure, absolutely yeah, slam in some of that.

Speaker 2:

Um, those are all that. I mean, that's all I can really give you. Like, you can increase cardio as a thing if you don't want to, um, drop food, which is fine, um, but you have to do a lot more cardio. Cardio does not burn that many calories in reality. Just letting you know weights, baby. Also, another thing you can do is if you focus on adding more muscle, like, let's say, you're going through and this I would say this is a way healthier way of thinking about it. If you really focus on adding muscle to your frame, you're going to look leaner. You're going to burn more calories at rest anyway, because muscle takes energy to use and move and the more you carry, the more you're going to burn. So focusing on muscle is just, honestly, the best way to do it and that way you don't have to fucking think about any of this shit absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And also then you'll be skinnier and therefore shut up happier, stop, stop it, stop it, stop it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, another food related question. Thanks for your question, we appreciate it. Question two hey gang, can you guys think of any good reasons, if there are any, to start a diet? No, because if you're starting a diet, that implies that it's going to end, and I think that you should be making changes that you can implement for a long time. That that is what I will say.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's a good way to look at it. I mean, there are some reasons to start diets If you are having an unknown reaction to something you want to do. What's it called A removal diet? What's it called Elimination, elimination diet?

Speaker 2:

So that's another one, but that's a whole topic. Actually, I'd like to do an episode on, because I feel like people do these elimination diets and all of a sudden they're intolerant to everything and it's actually just a secret way of maintaining a body fat or weight that they really want Really.

Speaker 1:

I think people are lying to themselves sometimes. I think people that have to go through elimination diets are in the worst possible situation. Genuinely no stop it's so difficult?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm thinking like like, do you know how many people are actually going through that stuff though? Like they've gone to see a doctor and they've done the scratch test and they've gone okay, we've found that you're intolerant to this, or they need to figure out on a step-by-step basis they found the scratch tests aren't very effective at finding um intolerance.

Speaker 1:

Still, we can do a whole episode on this, but that is a legitimate reason to need a diet.

Speaker 2:

Okay, who do you know who is suffering?

Speaker 1:

You suffered. You did an elimination diet Because you were suffering from something that needed one.

Speaker 2:

I'm also second guessing myself now, and maybe I just wanted to Get a little shreddy.

Speaker 1:

That rash that you had Did not look like you were shredding.

Speaker 2:

No, the rash was legitimate. It was actually a hellscape for you for ages it was a hellscape I, you for ages it was a hellscape. I couldn't sleep. But in saying that, I also do find that there are I've had instances of this with clients more people with a body dysmorphia issue than actually with a general gut issue or an intolerance or like people will take out. Another thing that people do is they take out way too much to start with and they end up being intolerant to everything.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my god, they become racist.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, that's it. If you remove, if you remove everything and stay off it for a really long time, like your gut actually goes, hey, I actually don't fucking want this anymore.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, the micro flora, micro fauna, whatever can't take it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then you turn to jordan peterson, which is not a benzos. Benzos and steaks only yes, so just be careful, because that might happen to you um, yes, so that is a legitimate reason to need a diet.

Speaker 1:

Another legitimate reason is if you don't like foods and you want to remove them, that's kind of like a diet. I don't think that's a diet. You're like do you know? I had I run overseas programs and we do oh, what's your dietaries? Because, because we do meals prepared for them. At any point through that, we need to know what to tell.

Speaker 1:

And one of the students came back and they said I'm allergic to mushrooms and I know for a fact that allergens to mushrooms doesn't exist in humans. It's like an incredibly low percentage of people are actually allergic to mushrooms. And so I messaged this student. I was like oh, could you just clarify, are you allergic to mushrooms or you just not like them? Because I also don't like mushrooms. Like I feel you on that if that's it. And the student was like, yeah, I just don't really like them. So I didn't really want to have them in my meals. And I was like thank you so much for telling me. I am not doing anything about that. You can just pick the mushrooms out of your meal oh my god, get over yourself.

Speaker 2:

Well, I didn't know that mushroom allergies weren't real.

Speaker 1:

No, because mushrooms are the best things in the world. They're very nature, you know.

Speaker 2:

They're very like aligned. They're very nature.

Speaker 1:

They're very aligned. You look at a strawberry and you're like there's no way nature created that. That's a freak. That's a freak of nature. But a mushroom you look at, you're like mm-hmm you're meant to be there, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Is that why you're saying that?

Speaker 1:

The thing is, if you went out to a forest here somewhere in Sydney for a little bushwalk and you saw a whole bunch of strawberries going, you would be like that's out of place, that absolutely should not be there. But if you went out and you saw mushrooms on the ground, you would be like great.

Speaker 2:

No, that's not. I mean, I've seen wild strawberries before they exist.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but not here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've seen them in Australia before.

Speaker 1:

If you saw a wild strawberry in your living room, you'd be like, ew, that's weird. If you saw a mushroom in your living room, you'd be like I need to clean, but you should be there, that mushroom.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you wouldn't need to clean if there was a strawberry. Yeah, you would. No, you wouldn't. You'd be like, wow, I can cultivate and eat fruits.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, yeah, those are the two reasons I think you should be able to diet.

Speaker 2:

And also, if you want, to. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, sometimes it's fun to go on a little diet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you just, you know, like I mean, go back and past episodes to like fully evaluate the risks before you start anything like that and look at the real reasons as to why you might be doing it. Yeah, that's fair With caution.

Speaker 1:

With caution and love, lots of love.

Speaker 2:

Question three Great question, thank you. How can we differentiate between being mentally tired and physically tired, and how should we adjust our fitness routines accordingly? Ooh, what's the difference for you between mentally tired and physically tired?

Speaker 1:

Mentally tired. I think when I'm physically tired, I am then naturally mentally tired. I I think those two go hand in hand, which is why it can be difficult to differentiate.

Speaker 1:

But mental tiredness can on its own occur where after I sorry I just burped uh after I have uh, um, like a long day of thinking I'm working on a big project, when I'm traveling for work or something like that, you really have to be on all day.

Speaker 1:

I used to run workshops and they would run from like 8am to 4pm, which is a very long time to be on and a very long time to be thinking and trying to stay ahead of what all the students are doing, and at the end of that day I like wouldn't be able to maintain a cohesive thought. I would really bounce around in what I'm doing. I would have like a lot of physical energy because I'd been pepped up by presenting, but the thoughts just weren't there, like I couldn't problem solve, I couldn't do anything. And also I was a lot more likely to be like both ends of the emotional spectrum that I would swing quite happy and then quite upset very easily. Yeah, because I've not got that emotional regulation going on, that skill that we all I hope everyone works on building up as they get older of like, when something bad happens, not immediately reacting to something bad when you're mentally tired or when I'm mentally tired, I'm very quick to react to what's going around me which is not healthy but it happens.

Speaker 1:

You know you get mentally tired. But for me a similar state like that can occur when I'm physically tired, but generally everything's all muted down and I'm like less engaged with stuff around me. Yeah, so that for me would be how I feel the difference, or different things that cause it. What about you?

Speaker 2:

So I guess, like it's very similar to what you said, but also like, I guess, physically tired, if we're talking in reference to training, if you're very sore and it's hard to move, that would also be a way to be like, okay, I've trained really hard, I should probably take a breather. But yeah, my mental tiredness is the same as yours. Like, if I have a day of like training people, like having people for one-on-one where they talk about their problems for hours at a time is great, I love my job. But, like often it can be like quite a lot. So sometimes at the end of a very long day, or if I've taught a whole bunch of spring classes like I taught four in one day this week I was like, wow, I've got nothing to say to anyone. I'm complete.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I completely agree so that for me is like I wonder how other people get mentally tired, because, like, that's like for us, it's like seems appears to be like a more of a social thing, right, because, cause you have to be engaging with a whole bunch of people, particularly when you're running workshops and that kind of thing. I guess like if you were a scientist doing a research doing the research you'd have to you know do a lot of reading of mathematical equations.

Speaker 2:

I think that would also make me very mentally tired, but also because that whole idea seems daunting. But I imagine that would be a similar thing, just like high mental stimulation, basically leading to tired mental tightness yeah, you stretch your brain a little too much.

Speaker 1:

I've had it before with I play. Occasionally I'll play like a coding computer game where they'll have their own little coding language and you're supposed to make more complex code while you do it. But problem solving code as you're writing it is, it's good, but you just your brain gets stretched right to the limit in it and then I finish up and I'm like I'm not able to, I can't do anything that requires thinking.

Speaker 2:

Andrew, I actually can't believe you play a game that's like that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my God, it's I love them. No, don't say it's fun, because it's not. I should get you one of them because there's. There's a really fun one called um, I think it's called. There is no farmer or something and you basically run a farm with a drone and you just have to code the drone to like, plant and collect different it's already not a thing for me.

Speaker 2:

I did a computer science paper as my gen ed when I was studying music. I wanted to kill myself every class.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, it's not for you, it is for me anyway that's how I would say I get mentally tired without any of the social stuff. Is I'll get really engaged? Or I'll do like a factory building game or something like that, where I'm like I'm in and I play for like six hours of problem solving, balancing different like conveyor belts, and then I finish that up and I'm like I can't do anything. That requires a thought in me. It'll be like sit with TikTok and have the content wash over, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I guess like that can be also be intertwined, like if you're under a light, if you have a big lack of sleep, then like you're going to feel mentally tired, physically tired. You actually feel the physical feeling of tiredness when your eyes are like, oh, I could close right now and, just you know, gently go to sleep, kind of like how I feel right now and also your brain is just like foggy Cause the ideas won't come, cause you're thinking about bed and how much you want to sleep Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. Um, uh, I agree. So there was a second part to the question.

Speaker 2:

It's like, how do you uh do your training? I think if you're mentally tired, like only mentally tired, and training can really help if you can identify that, like you know, it's just a repetitive task that you can, that you don't really have to think about that much. So I think, like training when you're mentally tired can be okay, physically tired, or like a combination of both, I would say don't even worry about it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um, I live by the rule of if you have settled in to like a three day at the gym routine and you're too physically tired to go, I would say go to the gym, step foot in the gym, make your decision when you're there whether you want to be there and then if you decide then you want to go, that's fine. That's 20 minutes out of your day for you to just go there.

Speaker 2:

Unless you have to hike for three hours to get to the gym.

Speaker 1:

I would probably recommend picking a different gym and getting just some simple pieces of equipment for home if you're hiking for three hours to get there.

Speaker 2:

We're not thinking about the people who live in the Mugabe Desert and have to travel.

Speaker 1:

That is a key listener, demographic as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's where most of our listeners are actually. We're actually in two months' time, we're going to be doing our live performance on the Mugabe Desert. The Mugabe Desert.

Speaker 1:

I'm excited.

Speaker 2:

Wow, it's going to be hot as shit. We're going to be packed.

Speaker 1:

Our listeners will supply for us, won't they? Surely they love us.

Speaker 2:

They've been saying come to the Mugabe Desert.

Speaker 1:

Come to the Mugabe Desert. We should make sure the Mugabe Desert Turn to the Mugabe Desert, make sure we bring a lot of water. Oh, yeah, yeah, at least 600 mils.

Speaker 2:

Mikey's booking the guides. Actually, we're Sveti booking the guides, Sveti have you booked them yet? I'm not booking tickets for a trip you won't bring me on.

Speaker 1:

Oh, get on, it Come on.

Speaker 2:

We need to make sure we have it. We've got two months. I need at least a camel each as well, because I don't know if I can. I'm not good with sand. It gets in between my toes.

Speaker 1:

We can trade for two camels each.

Speaker 2:

You can ride it like Vin Diesel.

Speaker 1:

It gets tired. Is Vin Diesel in the Need for Speed? What film was it where they go? Was it like James Bond, where he goes across two cars and they make him do the splits?

Speaker 2:

It's a Jean-Claude Van Damme thing. Who is that? Why he's got so many names? He's in, well, that's a good question. That is a good question, but um, he's european.

Speaker 1:

I think that'll do it yeah, yeah, anyway, I live by the turn up and then make a decision. Sometimes I go to the gym and I do like two, two sets and I'm like I'm out, I'm going I feel like also, you know, if you're gonna, you do good.

Speaker 2:

I also kind of am like getting more towards this opinion, like if you're going to the gym, you should be like any exercise that you do is good, but if you really feel like you're not going to be able to improve or at least do the same output of work that you did the last session leave?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I think the exact opposite. No, but I'm just like like I think you're quite tired right now and so you're thinking I'm out, I could never go to the gym right now yeah, you could be right, but also no, I think.

Speaker 2:

I think, though, if you've got programmed days, say days that I've like programmed for you, don't fucking go. If it's going to be a waste of time and you have to drop the weights by heaps, I would say rest and save it for a time, or like even the next day, when you're going to be potentially perform better that's.

Speaker 1:

That's a fair point. Yeah, I still stand by that turn up, do as much as you feel you can stomach and then go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean don't push yourself for some crazy turn up, do one curl and then be like I'm out. Any work that you do is fine, but like, if you're going to do, if you're just going to turn up and do one curl, then like, why'd you go?

Speaker 1:

because the reason I have the like you got to turn up and step foot into the gym, because most of the time that I say I don't know if I can go to the gym today and then I just go. Well, all I have to do is step foot into the. It means that sometimes I do go there and I do 20% of my workout and I go, I'm out of here and I'm going home. What have I wasted? 30 minutes. Yeah, okay, I prefer who is using every 30 minutes.

Speaker 2:

I prefer you went and tried and left early, then went through the whole workout and just kind of fluffled your way through it. Yeah, that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, you know your body. That's what I'm saying. It's just, it's a lot harder to be like I don't need to be here when you're already there. Yeah, but it's very easy to say I don't need to go when you're not there.

Speaker 2:

I see, I see what you're saying. I see, I see Sounds like we need to fucking kick you. Always make sure you train hard. Yeah, exactly, oh, andrew. Thank you so much for listening to Well Basically. If you want to find Andrew, you can find him at the Bareback Investor. If you want to find me, you can find me at Well Basically, sam. If you want to find the pod, it is wwwwellbasicallypodcom. How many croissants do you think you could eat in one sitting?

Speaker 1:

It depends if there's something on the line, because I would probably just comfortably do three Gun to my head. I reckon I could I don't know ten. Okay, what about?

Speaker 2:

almond croissant. Oh, like five. Really, they're quite rich, aren't?

Speaker 1:

they, they're very rich. Would you vomit, yeah, from five almond croissants?

Speaker 2:

I reckon I could do five quite easily.

Speaker 1:

Once got one for breakfast and I was having it on the train.

Speaker 2:

It's not a breakfast?

Speaker 1:

No, I appreciate that but you know what? It was delicious and I actually couldn't finish it on the train I was like it's too much almond croissant I love that custard shit they put in the middle. It's my favourite. I was obsessed with almond croissants for a real long time Would you eat just a bowl of the custard?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I love custard, custard, underrated.

Speaker 1:

Really. Yeah, I don't have that much of it. If I'm honest, I have those little tubs of custard. Oh yeah, Tubby custard no don't do that.

Speaker 2:

What else isn't underrated?

Speaker 1:

Sunflower seeds Nah.

Speaker 2:

I hate those, okay, jesus. We've had that conversation, though I actually got offered some the other day and I said get those away from me.

Speaker 1:

And I pushed them away, just a sunflower that was drooping a bit and you just punched it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a snack shouldn't be that much effort. That's my thought. Well, basically, I'm fine. This snack shouldn't be that much effort. That's my thought. Well, basically.