
Woke Isn't Enough
Most of us think that we are "good" people who don't hurt or oppress anyone. A good number of us consider ourselves "woke". That means that we are aware of oppression, particularly racism, and we are NOT a part of the problem. In reality, we are all a part of the problem. "Woke Isn't Enough" is a podcast that challenges all of us to recognize how we sustain systems of oppression and what it will really take to finally disrupt them once and for all. Expect lively, challenging and provocative conversation with Fiona Oliphant and Jess Ayden Li.
Episodes
31 episodes
S4 Episode 4: The Demise of Democracy
More and more people are discussing the potential fall of democracy in the US as the 2022 mid-term elections creep ever closer. However, those conversations often happen in a vacuum, seemingly disconnected from issues of equity and inclusion. D...
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23:21

S4 Episode 3: We All Need Healing
Special guests, Zoe Flowers and Cassie Whitebread, join Jess and Fiona to invite you to our upcoming healing retreat. During this episode, we discuss why it is crucial that we prioritize our well-being in order to sustain the work. We cannot di...
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Season 4
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Episode 3
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21:58

S4 Episode 2: The Trials and Tribulations of Being Mixed
Mixed-race individuals (folks whose parents or ancestors are of more than one ethnicity and/or race) have a unique experience in processing and claiming their identity as compared to monoracial individuals. In this episode, Fiona and Cassie dis...
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Season 4
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Episode 2
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26:43

S4 Episode 1: It's Time For a Black Woman on the Supreme Court...Actually It's Just Time for the Supreme Court to Reflect America
In today's episode, Jess and Fiona discuss Ketanji Brown Jackson's nomination to the Supreme Court. If approved, she would become the first Black woman to serve on the Supreme Court. But why is it taking so long for the Supreme Court to b...
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Season 4
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Episode 1
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31:56

S3 Episode 8: Did That Just Happen?
As co-conspirators and aspiring allies we often ask ourselves what we would do to interrupt every day acts of racism and oppression. Unfortunately, the HEU team recently had opportunities to find out. During today's informal convers...
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Season 3
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Episode 8
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29:15

S3 Episode 7: Deconstructing the Rittenhouse & Arbery Verdicts
Two huge verdicts came through last month - that of Kyle Rittenhouse and also for the three white men who murdered Ahmaud Arbery. What do these verdicts mean for white America and for BIPOC folks? What have we learned (if anything)? What do we ...
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Season 3
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Episode 7
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30:07

S3 Episode 6: Sharing Leadership, Sharing Power
Is your nonprofit ready to do away with traditional hierarchy? How can shared leadership models work while still being a part of the harmful nonprofit industrial complex? During this episode, Healing Equity United speaks with special guest Cass...
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Season 3
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Episode 6
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28:41

S3 Episode 5: The "Checklist" of Becoming an Anti-Racist Organization
What does the "checklist" of becoming an anti-racist organization include? Fiona and Jess discuss the "checklist" of items and why we need to move beyond performative actions to really embrace the internal work that all of us need to do to embr...
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Season 3
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Episode 5
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30:08

S3 Episode 4: People and Culture
Nonprofit human resources has origins rooted in racism and the enslavement of Black people in the South. In this episode, Jess and Fiona discuss how we move beyond the oppressive systems and structures that have been developed to actually ...
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35:34

S3 Episode 3: Racial Trauma and its Long Lasting Impact
What is racial trauma, how has it manifested over the past year, and what are the impacts? There's a saying that "hurt people, hurt people." In this episode, Fiona & Jess talk about how racial trauma shows up in nonprofits and in leadership...
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Season 3
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Episode 3
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31:15

S3 Episode 2: Woke and the Weaponization of Language
Those of us reimagining a society truly rooted in equity have to anticipate backlash from those seeking to maintain the status quo. They will ramp up efforts to silence and marginalize our voices. They will turn our words inside out and upside ...
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Season 3
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Episode 2
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28:25

S3 Episode 1: Critical Race Theory: The Latest Great Educational Debate
During this episode, Healing Equity United tackles the controversial issue of whether Critical Race Theory (CRT) should be taught in schools. The team discusses what CRT is and what it is not. It also addresses how CRT has become such a c...
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33:44

S2 Episode 8: Wealth Privilege
What is wealth privilege, and why does it matter? How do we change philanthropy and the way that funds are distributed to non-profits? Fiona & Jess discuss the dynamics behind wealth and philanthropy and what we need to consider when it com...
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Season 2
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Episode 8
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25:44

S2 Episode 7: Let's Talk About Racialized Trauma
Grief. Rage. Relief. Overwhelm. Sadness. People of color have felt all of theses emotions and more as we have grappled with mass murder, rising hate crimes, and repeated murders committed by police. It is only natural that these eve...
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Season 2
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Episode 7
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23:42

S2 Episode 6: Has Cancel Culture Gone Too Far?
It seems like someone is getting canceled everyday. But have we gone too far as a society? Join Fiona and Jess as they discuss cancel culture and the differences between calling in and calling out.
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30:32

S2 Episode 5: WWW: Woke White Women
During this episode, Jess and Fiona discuss the intersections of race and gender. More specifically, they focus on the significant number of white women who have historically used their unique societal position to perpetuate oppression against ...
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32:21

S2 Episode 4: Why Aren't More of Us Outraged?
During this episode, Jessica and Fiona discuss the number of anti-Asian crimes which have sky-rocketed over the past year. Why aren't more people taking to the streets? Protesting? Outraged? Maybe the answer lies in our country's deep anti-Asia...
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25:56

S2 Episode 3: Does White Silence Equate to Anti-Blackness?
In this episode, Jess and Fiona take on everything from the NFL to the resounding silence of many White allies in the wake of innumerable acts of anti-Blackness. As usual, they call on allies to move beyond being "woke" towards consistently and...
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29:30

S2: Episode 2: Can There be Unity Without Accountability?
In today's episode, Jessica and Fiona discuss what we should do as co-conspirators in the wake of the national political call for unity. Does unity mean that we have to pause the movement? Does unity mean that we have to temper our ...
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30:23

S2: Episode 1: The Attack on the Capitol Leaves No Room for Neutrality
The attack on the Capitol is another moment of awakening for some White folx in America today. But for most BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, and People of Color), it's not surprising. At this pivotal moment, you're either racist or you're antira...
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34:31

S1 Episode 10: Ally to Accomplice and Everything in Between
If our ultimate goal is to become accomplices and co-conspirators, how do we get there? What This week, Fiona and Jess share Healing Equity United's Five A's model which discusses the steps between ally and accomplice. Through examples in nonpr...
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26:09

S1 Episode 9: Conversation on Activism in Native American Communities
During this episode we were honored to have special guest, Michele Leonard join us. Michele discussed her decades of activism in the Native American community. She also shared her wisdom regarding the continued erasure of Native peoples from ou...
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Season 1
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Episode 9
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42:41

S1 Episode 8: How Do We Talk to Our Kids About Racial Equity
The Black Lives Matter movement and protests are sparking questions from kids today. How early should you start talking to them about race? Where should we begin the conversation? Hear from Fiona Oliphant and John Nguyen-Yap (in a moderated dis...
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Season 1
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Episode 8
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52:46

S1 Episode 7: How are People of Color Tokenized in Nonprofits?
This week, Jess interviews Helen Kim Ho, a fierce Asian American activist in Atlanta who founded the first Asian Pacific American civil rights organization in the Deep South. Listen as they discuss the tokenization of people of color in nonprof...
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Season 1
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Episode 7
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44:20

S1 Episode 6: Why Isn't Being Woke Enough?
We're reading all the books, going to trainings, and following the news. We've been awakened. But why isn't being woke enough in this moment? This week Jessica and Fiona discuss how we need to move beyond allyship to become co-conspirators in t...
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Season 1
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Episode 6
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28:52
