Harrison Lewis on Trust, Faith & Finding Purpose After the Military | Security Halt! Podcast Ep.424

Harrison Lewis shares his journey from Ranger to entrepreneur while discussing trust, teamwork, faith, leadership, and building a life centered on purpose.

In This Episode, We Cover:

• Harrison’s military background and Ranger experience 
• Leadership and trust in high-performance teams 
• Transitioning from military service to entrepreneurship 
• Faith, purpose, and personal transformation 
• Building Grind Collective and creating impact 

Key Takeaways:

• Trust is essential in leadership and business 
• Service can remain part of your purpose after the military 
• Faith can help guide difficult transitions 
• Purpose matters more than money 

Resources & Links:

• Warrior Rising: https://warriorrising.org/
• The Honor Foundation: https://www.honor.org/splash/
• Grind Collective: https://www.instagram.com/grnd.us/?hl=en
• Dr. Lewis: https://www.instagram.com/harrisonllewis/?hl=en

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Purpose

01:09 Early Life and Military Background

05:46 Transition to Army and Leadership Lessons

10:07 Trust and Team Dynamics

12:57 Experiences in the Ranger Regiment

15:41 Struggles with Identity and Purpose

20:43 Decision to Pursue Physical Therapy

25:55 Navigating Transition to Civilian Life

30:03 Finding New Purpose and Entrepreneurship

34:52 Building a Trustworthy Team

36:14 The Mission and Message of Grind

37:28 Transitioning from Military to Civilian Life

38:50 Future Vision for Grind

40:03 The Importance of Service in Life

42:05 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome

43:27 The Role of Confidence in Personal Growth

46:31 Finding Purpose Beyond Money

51:57 The Journey Back to Faith

55:32 The Power of Community and Service

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Transcript

Veterans And The Confidence Gap

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Every veteran or everybody going to that transition somehow forget that they are this fully capable individual that has succeeded in high pressure, high-stake situations. And then they it's like part of the transition is you lose that. You get on the outside and you're like, oh no, how will I ever apply to this program? You figured it out before. Just a different mission, man. Like, guys, if you're listening right now, please understand that your greatest asset is everything you went through in the military. Every deployment, every train up, you have had to make things happen with short notice. You've done this before. Have confidence in your ability to succeed. I think it's a little bit of imposter syndrome and a little bit of just letting that fear overtake you overwhelm you because you've been so far removed from the stability of space.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Absolutely right. That skill set is ingrained in you. But that imposter syndrome is real. It really is because we get out and we have to almost think we have to put ourselves in a box to fit into society without realizing that our experience is there to take society. Like veterans are who drive our culture forward, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

How's it going, brother? Man, it's going well. Super excited to be here, man. Dude, I am thrilled we can finally make this happen. Uh, everything that you put on social media is exactly what I talk about. Being focused on your next mission, being a man of purpose, being a person that works on all three of the domains, mind, body, and spirit. And the absolute biggest one is finding your next mission. And everything that you're doing with grind and the way you're giving back to the community. So your honest approach of documenting your life has to be talked about, man, because in the world filled with negativity, we have to shine a light on the positive. So welcome today, man.

Roots In Service And Football

SPEAKER_00 2:05

Man, you know, uh, the first intro, you you already got me emotional. So like, dude, it it's it's such a blessing, man, and I'm so grateful to be in this situation. Um, and it's it's fun being able to get back. You know, we grew up in service. Like we know what service feels like, the feeling you get from pouring in the others. And uh yeah, man, I'm I'm super pumped to be here. I'm so super thankful to be in this situation.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

So dude, absolutely, man. Well, let's kick it off. And before we dive into the success of your new mission, let's talk about where it all started for you.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Yeah, yeah. So uh, man, I can go back, you know, 10, 15 years. You know, I'm an army brat. You know, my dad served in the army, got out as a colonel, and born in Germany, you know, so I was already out in uh with Landstein when I was born. Um and just moved around a lot as a kid, grew up in Louisiana, so I'm a country boy by 28. Yeah, big country boy. I drive a truck, you know, it's great. Um, grew up hunting and fishing, man. And um, you know, growing up, those values were instilled in me in a very early age. You know, um, respect, duty, honor, bravery, courage, you know, to be in that environment in my adolescence really shaped how I, my worldview was foundationally created from my father and my rearing. And to take that through each journey of my life, you know, being being an athlete, you know, I went and played college football, uh, went to Louisiana Tech, was a linebacker. That was what that was what I was gonna do. I was like, football is it. I'm I'm fit, I'm athletic, I'm a linebacker, this is what I'm doing. I'm gonna try to go to NFL. That's the plan. And uh that didn't work out. Um, which is okay. You know, I I I learned a lot from that experience, and it was it was amazing. But when I was in college, you know, I was also in Army ROTC. And uh, and the the funny story about how that happened is when I went on my official visit, I was like, cool, you know, my dad came, he was like, man, great, great program, great university. Uh, and I was actually gonna start majoring, start out majoring in uh pre-PT. So I was in a biology track and uh wrap up the visit, cool, cool. My dad goes, hey, let's go uh, let's go check out the Army ROTC detachment. I'm like, and he had just got back from the deployment. You know, I'm like, what are you what are you talking about? No. Like I I was not, I did not want to join the army at the time. And uh he had a buddy over there, we go in and we're chatting, and minutes go by. I'm like, bro, are we leaving? Next thing I know, I'm taking a PT test. Yeah. No. Next thing I'm I'm literally, they take me out to the track and I do a PT test. And then three months later, you know, signing is usually February early that year, and then, you know, um May, I graduate high school and like we're doing the graduations, and sure enough, I get a uh I get an ROTC scholarship. Oh yeah. So that that's where I was like, oh, this is happening, you know, whether I liked it or not, uh, my my dad Stuasponated that and it happened. Uh which is hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 5:29

Dude, we we have to we have to pause and reflect on on um how great fathers are, man. The the wisdom of your father to have that moment of like, I'm not gonna give him an option.

ROTC Scholarship And Fatherly Push

SPEAKER_00 5:40

We're gonna do this. Right. Yeah, man. And uh at the time, I was a little disfrontled because it was like, you know, he had deployed twice when I was in high school, missed, you know, a season, and it was just really child. We had a very challenging relationship, you know, during during high school because of that. Every kid would have an issue with their dad getting gone, whether whether they watched Black Talk Down or not, they're they're gonna be like, man, it's just like, what are you talking about? You're gone for 10 months, you know. And you know, back then that was post-search, and uh, you know, that's those rips were 10, you know, 15, 20 months, and they were gone for a long time, you know. Um, and I was mad, you know, but in hindsight, it's like, man, you really, you really hooked me up, you know, you really, uh, you really set me up for success because uh it wasn't long into my college career as an athlete that I realized that, man, like this passion just isn't isn't there. You know, it became very selfless, uh, well, selfish. It was a very uh you know challenging environment for me because I I really didn't understand the why outside of me trying to make it to the NFL. You know, um, there was nothing that I was extending beyond myself. The team was amazing. You know, I love I still keep in touch with teammates now. Um, but I think that that decision my dad made for me really changed the trajectory of my life at an early age. So, yeah, and uh, you know, that was that was undergrad. I commissioned uh as a lieutenant, and you know, I start my my army career. And, you know, I was you know a jock in college, I was you know, always fit, and you know, I wanted to be infantry. I was like, I'm gonna be combat arms of some sort. That's what I want to do. And uh I was branched chemical. I was branched. A lot of people don't know that. A lot of people don't know that. I was like, you know, I was branched to the chemical core and I was so upset. I was like, like I gave up football for this one. So I'm like, okay, if I'm gonna do this, I want to do this at the highest level. I want to do everything I can. I want to get the full experience. I wanna, I want to go all in. And I got branched chemical, and I'm like, what is chemical? Like, what is this? What are we doing? You know, and I I went to Bolak with a chip on my shoulder. Uh, I was I was just upset because this is not what I signed up for. Uh, without realizing, no, you sign up to serve, you know, regardless of the capacity, and was fortunate enough to get to my first assignment. Uh, my battalion commander, uh, Aaron Toombs was a former um, you know, Ranger Regiment field grade officer, was in battalion command, and I told him, hey, sir, I'm not happy. You know, first meeting. Hey, I'm not initial counseling, initial counseling, like a second lieutenant, tell him decorated 05 that hey, I'm uh I'm not happy here. This is it, this is what I want to. The same for me, boss. Yeah. Yeah, he was like, hey, buddy, well, you got you got two options, you know. You can you can work your butt off, work your tail off, and uh we'll get you to ranger school and then, you know, make a decision on whether you want to branch transfer to infantry, or we can figure out, you know, what the next best best step is. So that's what I was gonna do. You know, I went to ranger school shortly after that when stripped and came back and we had a discussion, and he's like, hey man, you can branch infantry, but you wouldn't go until you're a captain. So you go to your career course, come out and and seek command of infantry company. And that's like years down the road. You know, I'm like, okay, I'm a young lieutenant, you know, and looking at the reality is that for officers, that PL time is our golden era, you know, like like being a platoon leader in any capacity is is really the most fun, and the closest you're gonna get to the troops as a young officer, you know, and you get further away from that as you as you grow in rank. And um I was like, man, this doesn't sound that great. You know, so at that time I had buddies going to SSBS, you know. I mean, some guys had already gone to uh to RASP, and I was like, you know, let's uh let's consider this other option. He's like, hey, I think this would be the best option for you. Um funny enough, I was having a conversation just before that with uh an old uh an old teammate, high school teammate, Sam Peterson, who went and pitched at LSU, and he had the same kind of conversation. He's like, hey, I think I'm gonna go be an Army Ranger. I was like, hey, I'll see you there.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

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SPEAKER_00 11:02

So and fast forward six months, you know, I go to RAS to uh make it through. And, you know, we're both in third rate of battalion at the time, which is from the same same hometown. Wow. Super cool. That's a blessing. Yeah, man. So uh that's kind of you know, this is now 2016, 2017. Um, I'm at I'm at 375, and um, man, just a life-changing experience to be behind that brown fence and around um such high-caliber men on a daily basis. It just it changes you, you know. Um it it it gives you this unique appreciation uh for excellence, for for work, you know, for you know, the grind, like what it takes to to really be great um at what you do, uh, and also to be able to trust. One thing that I struggled with my entire life was trusting people. You know, I I would always rather make the attempt than trust someone else to make it for me because I trusted my own ability. But it wasn't until I became a ranger that I realized that my secret power is the power of others around me. And be able to trust them is something that's completely it changes my life now. I mean, I'm I'm a better physical therapist because I can trust the people that are around me. Let's dive into that a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

What do you think that started out as? Like where um what happened? Where did where did that initially start?

Getting Branched Chemical Then Adapting

SPEAKER_00 12:33

I I think that started, I think that's actually something that is I I don't want to use the term genetic. If there's some type of genetic psychological transference over time, no, it's true. It's true.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

If if you read The Body Keeps the Score, it's locked in your DNA, man. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

So uh, and I've read that book, man. And um I I I believe that because of my family's history, you know, uh, like my dad was born in 1953 in Mississippi. You know, my my great-grandfather, well, my grandfather was born in 02, 1902. So my great-grandfather was a slave. That's only two back, you know. So when you think about the the time and, you know, the perspective that they carried and and passed on to their kids, it was this almost we need to keep our resources in. It's hard to trust people as a black man in the US. And I think I just carried that and and and held on to it uh without realizing that was hindering my ability to grow.

SPEAKER_02 13:37

Man, you're touching on some things that a lot of individuals are gonna probably have to stop and say, wait a second, I came from a rough background, I had the same experience. Because when you're when you're constantly having to put up that wall, protect yourself, you're not you're not coming into the military in the same way. And I've seen it, I've I've experienced it, and it really you have to go to the highest echelon or get closer to that high performing group of individuals where you can see to your left and right, be like, oh, this is family. There's trust here. And in order for me to be completely part of this team, I gotta understand, I gotta see them as equals, and I gotta see them as individuals that are high trust caliber. And I realize that too. Like you wanna, at first you're like, no, no, no, no. I I check my stuff. It's only me.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

Right. Exactly, man. And that's where that that team, that that cohesive unit, man, and it it builds a bond that can't be broken. It really does. But yeah, I mean, that was, you know, now we're you know 2017, 18, uh, a couple rips there, um, really, really good time. And I always always tell folks, uh, you know, people always reach out to me and they're like, man, tell me about you know the appointments, et cetera. You know, and I was uh I was ranged a platoon leader. During during the time I was in battalion, our biggest, you know, uh near-peer threat, we're thinking, is like North Korea. You know, so I'm a chemical officer. North Korea, this is like my Super Bowl. You know, it's like it's like everyone's looking at me, and it was a very high-pressure time where we reorganized a bunch of assets and really shifted our entire training and appointment cycle to prepare for a potential conflict with North Korea. Um, so my platoon, we did a bunch, you know, a bunch of training with with uh East Squadra. We're out at uh 275 o'clock, just getting ready for what, you know, first group out there uh in Washington, what what potentially could happen. Uh and that kind of shifted things for us. And because of that, I missed the rip. Uh still, you know, went forward in 19 and and didn't see combat, you know. And that was that was a situation too, that it's like it, I I'd equate it to, you know, making it to the NFL and never going to the Super Bowl or never making it to the playoffs. Like we want that. That was this was like, all right, I'm in the regiment, I'm a platoon leader, I want combat. That's what we we want to go and do that thing. And we know that's a terrible. No one, no one in the civilian world appreciates that or understands that that turn of thought. But for me, it was just something that, you know, at the time I was upset about. You know, it's like, man, like this was that was my that was my opportunity without realizing that across the entire regiment, there's, you know, nine to twelve platoons at a given time, you know, well, uh companies at a given time, you know, only exit platoons are gonna be a strike force on a rotation. Stuff might happen, you know, uh, but that's not really the main effort um on these rotations. And hey, that's the way it works. I'm more grateful for the opportunity to serve in that organization and to have made the relationships I did. And um, you know, again, truly just grateful for my time there.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

Yeah. And that's that's a problem I hear from a lot of young men. And the obviously before everything kicked off with Iran, now it's a little different, but a lot of guys struggle with that idea. I I came here to the most elite unit I could find to go play professional ball, to play under Friday night lights. And it's rooted in our American culture, especially with young men that are in sports. I felt that way. I equated it, I equated being home to being part of JV. Train up, train up, train up, train up. Let's go. Let's get to that Friday night game. And even our leadership talked like it. So when you don't when you don't get that moment of your Super Bowl, there's a lot of young men and and even older men in my age group, yeah, that are like, Well, am I worthy? Exactly. I do I do I belong amongst my peers. And we have to be able to say it does it matter. It doesn't matter. You served. You served. You bypassed, you know, would you be happier if your friend or you got in a situation where you saw some horrible things, lost a friend, engaged somebody. And I know it's it's easier to talk about it having deployments, having seen things, but I want everybody to understand it doesn't make you any less of a veteran. It doesn't make any less of a brother not having gotten that. You served in a time of war. And if you're still serving, your your time is coming. Your moment never God gives you certain things in life. Don't don't ever think for one moment God isn't prepping you for your main objective. He's there. He's there, he's seeing you, and your moment will come. I've seen friends that had, you know, my first couple deployments in 82nd. Like the first deployment was nothing. It was just a lot of driving. And a lot of friends that I talked to and still engage with them was like, well, I didn't do anything. I'm like, bro, you signed up to go in the surge. Like, you signed up and you you got in those vehicles and you drove every single day. Rolled the dice every single day. And then when you got out, you continue to serve your community as a police officer. I got a friend right now that works as a police officer, has been a police officer for years. And the stories he tells me, I'm like, brother, you've done enough.

Earning Trust Inside Ranger Regiment

SPEAKER_00 19:31

Right. Like you've seen combat. You you've seen, you have seen the other side. You've seen the darkness that's in this world. And uh, you're absolutely right. Like what we as men, but we just tie our identity to these things. Our identity is so like, dude, there was if if I was 20 years old, you could have told me I was gonna be anything other than a football player. But also, if I go back six years, you couldn't have told me I'd be anything other than a ranger. You know, and and after, you know, after I left the regiment, you know, I wouldn't serve in 4160th and 160th source. Um, no way. So I was there, I wasn't a pilot, I was on staff as I was getting all my stuff ready for PT school. But another great opportunity to serve in a phenomenal organization, you know, something the most professional group of people.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Right out the right out the gate. I mean, our latest Medal of Honor winner at 160th pilot. What was it like? I mean, I uh I talked to it.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:31

I I've been drinking out of it all week.

unknown 20:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

You know, what's it like shifting from one high op tempo organization of high excellence and and the same rigid standards into another one? But this time, you know, you're working staff. What was that like?

SPEAKER_00 20:51

It was it was very different from a main effort standpoint. You know, I so when I went to 4160th, I was the battalion S1. So I I switched, I switched to um AG when I left third range of battalion because I knew I was gonna, I was like, I'm gonna apply to physical therapy school. This is gonna be what's gonna allow me to still serve in a high capacity, but also go back to school while I was on active duty to not get on my prereqs. So I'm I'm in Washington, I'm at JBLM uh with 4160th, and it it was similar, but very, very, very, very different. Just two completely different organizations, but the standard of excellence was still was still just as high. Like we had, you know, you know, you talk to a flight lead, like you know this guy has one seen some stuff, but is very proficient in his job, you know, and and they carry that same level of professional excellence in everything they do. That that was that was uh an amazing. Amazing experience with 160 of SWAR.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

And I want to go back and kind of explore your decision to leave Ranger Regiment because I have to imagine that wasn't easy. Having, you know, what was what was the catalyst and what gave you both the courage and the ambition to go after such a such a big dream? Like being a PT is not easy. It is not an easy job. What gave you that like, okay, you know what? I'm going to continue being of service, but I'm going to do it this way.

Wanting Combat And Redefining Worth

SPEAKER_00 22:29

Yeah. So I I had been in PT my entire life. You know, like I was always breaking something, tearing something, ripping something up, you know. My my first experience in PT, I was in high school. I broke my collarbone like football, you know, and spent some time around some really phenomenal physical therapists. And then, like I said earlier, when I went to college, I wanted I started in Cleep PT and then struggled with school because I was a dumb jock, you know, and I was partying way too much and almost failed and had to switch, I had to switch my uh my degree to finance. So I have a finance degree. Uh yeah, so just a bunch, bunch of, you know, different degrees, whatever, man. And uh when I was in, when I was in battalion, I had a uh I had a malfunction on a jump one night and uh a bad cigarette roll. And, you know, they always make fun of you. Oh, don't pull your reserve. You know, I I sat there and fought, fought my, you know, I tried to get it open. I fought those lines for way too long, pulled my reserve, hit the ground real hard, jacked up my hip and knee real bad, and spent probably that next year in some rigorous rehab. And it was during that experience with uh John Chicorillo, a phenomenal PT and warfighter. Uh, he he kind of inspired me and became a mentor of mine. So, hey man, like you've got the training background, you've got the professional and the uh sports performance background, you understand orthopedics, and you know, you understand um the tactical side as well. This might be something you'd be interested in. And uh it was during that time I was like, you know, I think that's I'm gonna circle the block and and go finish that degree. And it was a hard decision to make because at this time I had been out of school for, you know, six, seven years. You know, it's like, all right, I'm I'm already a dumb jock. You know, there's a term, there's a term strong ranger. Yep. I am a strong ranger. I I will carry whatever you want. I will run as far as you want and as long as you want. Like I won't quit. But I'm not the smartest. And that's just the reality. I I understand my strengths, and and I share that also for folks that are listening that feel that almost of the imposter syndrome around their intelligence or their physical ability, that that hard work, being determined and focused to achieve a goal far surpasses any intellectual capacity. You know, uh, if you really believe that you can accomplish something, you will. You you absolutely will. And yeah, and I, you know, I made the decision, um, you know, this is when I was on an appointed actually, and uh started taking classes and made the decision to leave battalion, switched over to 160, went through their uh went through Green Platoon and went through their assessment, which was, you know, pretty, pretty fun. And um it was it was a good time. And uh yeah, I was I was off to the races and you know applied for school. So initially, obviously I'm a civilian now, I've got dreadlocks, you know. I'm I'm out, you know, I'm out. I shake them every now and then, you know, I'm out. But the original plan actually was to stay on active duty. I was gonna do 20 years. I was gonna do 20 years, and I was gonna go to the Army Baylor PT program down in San Antonio. So getting my prereqs together, you know, got a got a letter of recommendation from, you know, the regiment RCO, my 60th of RCO, you know, another guy that was, you know, out in um out of JSOC, and you know, there's a really great packet. And getting all my stuff together, when the application or the uh the interviews in the board took place, the university that I was attending didn't get a couple classes on on my transcript. So when the board convened, which they do applications centralized for PT school, this big system. And then part of it takes place in San Antonio, the other part of it is a standard board that takes place in Fort Knox. So the board at Fort Knox, they don't know anything, they don't understand the packet or anything like that. They just see I'm missing the classes and denying my application. So that was like, you know, okay, this just ruined my career. Because now there's such a there's such a log in application to matriculation. This is 2021. At the time, I wouldn't have started PT school until 23. So, and that's and that's if I would have gotten in. Yeah. So if I were to apply again in 22, I wouldn't have started PT school until 24. I would actually probably still be in PT school right now in 2026. So, which is crazy to think because at that time I was like, okay, this is it. I'm getting out the army. Submitted my packet and started school that fall out in uh out in Tacoma, Washington. So it's interesting how you know these little things happen and you just roll with the punches and understand that, you know, if you know the army, you know that you something is gonna get messed up with your plan. Like that you're like it it's never gonna work out the way you want it to. But I think that if you have, you know, the vision and commitment to achieve the goal, you can absolutely find a way to make it happen regardless of the circumstances.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

Yeah. Dude, that that is something we have to highlight for a little bit. Like, there's I don't know what it is. I mean, I went through it, I know you went through it. Every veteran or everybody going through that transition somehow forgets that they are this fully capable individual that has succeeded in high pressure, high-stakes situations, and then they you it's like part of the transition is you lose that. You get on the outside and you're like, oh no, how will I ever apply to this program? How will I ever go to the school? And like, dude, there you've you figured it out before. It's just a different mission, man. Like, guys, if you're listening right now, please understand that your greatest asset is everything you went through in the military, every deployment, every train up. You have had to make things happen with short notice. You've waited because the the old adage is if you wait to the last minute, it only takes a minute. You've done this before. Right. I'm not saying to continue being a procrastinator. Don't do that, but have confidence in your ability to succeed. Right. I I don't know what it is. And it happens, I think it's a little bit of imposter syndrome and a little bit of just letting that fear overtake you, overwhelm you because you've been so far removed from the civilian space. Stories shape culture, they build trust. And when they're told the right way, they move people to action. That's what we do at Security Hall Media. We don't just produce content, we create authentic, impactful, and purpose-driven storytelling for podcasters, nonprofits, brands, and leaders who are on a mission. For people who've lived real experiences and want their message to actually matter, from podcast production and video to strategic storytelling and distribution. We help you clarify your voice, elevate your brand, and connect with the audience you're trying to serve. You have a story worth telling and a purpose behind it. Security Hall Media is here to help you tell it the right way. Click the link in the episode description to learn more today. But I'm here to tell you, man, like my greatest asset, the greatest thing that I've developed is that I don't quit. That I've I fail fast and I move forward and I just don't quit. And it can be your superhero power as well. You just have to get out there and be willing to push away from the shore, man. Um, because there's nothing more difficult than starting something new and feeling like it's it's like, oh, you're background zero. I'm like, you've been there before. That's that should be your comfort zone. If you've ever gone to an assessment, if you've ever been in a pool in a military train up, regardless if you pass, because let me tell you, I am not a dive guy.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

Oh man.

Moving To 160th And Planning PT School

SPEAKER_00 30:44

I mean, you're you're you're absolutely right. You know, you are you're spot on in that like that like that skill set is ingrained in you. But that impulsive syndrome is real. It it really is, because we get out and we have to almost think we have to put ourselves in a box to fit into society without realizing that our experience is there to shape society. Like veterans are who drive our culture forward, I believe, because of our experience, because of our values, because of how we view society in our country. And I think what's really challenging, and I struggle with this, man, I went through such a mental health battle when I got out, you know, and I went straight into PT school. You know, I my last day in the army was the 25th of August. I started PG school the 26th. Like, like I was like, I'm not, I'm not taking a break. Like I I just didn't want to because I I recognized, and I was still going through a struggle, but I recognized that in order for me to find this next purpose, it takes effort. Like you, you have to put in the work and identify who you are, what your interests are, what your passions are, and go out and explore. And I think a lot of times veterans have viewed their identity and and their service as such a defining chapter in their life that nothing possibly after this could have quake to it. But it's because you you haven't done in my eyes, you haven't really done the reflection on your time and service to recognize that this is, and it sounds bad, but this is a stepping stone. It is. You can't serve forever. You truly cannot serve forever. A lot of people don't serve. You need to take those attributes, those lessons, and use that to catalyze the next adventure. And that's hard to do. I I I mean, when I when I got out, man, I I was like, what who am I? Who am you know? One day I was Sir, I was a captain, I was a ranger, I was a nice talker, I was, you know, all this and that. And the next I'm like in school with a bunch of folks that are years younger than I am. And they're smarter than me. And and not only that, they're smarter than I am. And I was like, what what is my I'm in Washington, which the only black person in my program, you know, I I was just in this, I was in a weird place. And you know, I I love I love my time at the University of Puget Sound, but it was vastly different than the environment that I've been in in my entire life. Because I went from from football, high performance athletics to special operations. You know, and and it it that changed how I viewed even normal people because I was the normal people I was around were the best of the best. So I I I truly strode, man. And you know, I was in PT school still trying to figure out what is my purpose. You know, like this should be enough. I served, my school was is getting paid for, I'm here to get this great education. And I'm like, this isn't it. I was burning myself down every night. Like, you know, I I was just not in a really good place meant to the weather sucked there. You know, it was just like I was, I was truly struggling because it was, they're just they didn't have a purpose attached to it. Like, what is my why? And, you know, for the first time in my life, I went to therapy, you know, and started working through even childhood traumas and and and adolescence and relationships and my time in the military through deaths that that occurred when I was while I was in battalion, you know, and really working through some of these things. And, you know, I was in my garage one night training. You know, I got a garage gym, you know, I work out a lot. Um and I I'm working out and I would sit down there with an old battalion journal, like a blank journal, and just like write stuff out. I would just like anything that came to mind, I would put it down and I wrote the word grind out on my erase board. And I wrote it out the colloquial way with the I in it. And I'm looking at it, I was like, uh, it doesn't really hit. And then it wasn't until I erased the letter I that I was like, oh, I had always been on the grind in every every chapter of my life, I had been on the grind. I was grinding to be a good son, a good brother, a good student, a good athlete, uh, a good officer, a good ranger, a good friend, you know, like like this this thing that we all have. Like we are all on this experience every single day. Now, a good physical therapist, you know, I have always been attached to this word. I have been grinding my entire life, and I recognize that I think this is the thing that I'm supposed to be doing. And I just took it around with it.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

Man, and and I will tell you, as a really bad entrepreneur, there's nothing scarier and powerful and more and powerful than coming up with a business idea. Like when you have that powerful why and that mission statement, and it hits, it's insanely good. And it's it it's I have to imagine it was the same thing where it's just like it speaks from within, and now it's like, all right, fuck all of this. I have to make this thing my my number one focus. How did you approach being an entrepreneur? I think I'm still approaching it.

Injury Rehab Sparks PT Calling

SPEAKER_00 36:26

I think I'm not alone. It's it's it's so different than anything else I I've experienced so far, man. Um I I actually almost dropped out of PT school because I thought I need to just go all in on this. And then I started to realize that no, this education is a way to provide value. Yes. Yes. You know, and that's why I stayed. Because if I had just gone and be, you know, started grind, it's apparel brand, it's active work brand, I I didn't really feel that I would almost be directly into a monetization mindset when I have never, nothing in my life had been monetized. Everything I've done had been about serving others. So getting that doctorate in physical therapy was, I think, truly the foundation to how I serve the community through the brand. And as an entrepreneur, man, I don't know jack shit about anything. I don't. People see grind and they they see, you know, great content, these stories that come out, they you know, the aesthetic is really strong. That's just because I've experienced with my own creativity and and have constantly tried to dial things up and learn and explore. But from a foundational business aspect, it's like, dude, we no one really knows until they start building. We go back to team and trust and finding the individuals surrounding yourself with the people that align with this mission. You build your own ranger regiment, you know, like like you like, I mean, you build your own ODA, like you build these people and you bring them together with one singular objective. That's that's when you become become less of an entrepreneur, and I become more of a strong ranger. I become more of who I was during this chapter of my life because that chapter of my life that taught me how to lead, serve, follow, and take care of others is the same thing as being an entrepreneur. That's it. Because the second I get a bill or accounting or anything like that, hey, I have a team that I that can help me solve this problem. Again, how can I extend that trust to others? And like to me, it's it's taking so much pressure off of myself to know the answer to everything while recognizing all I have to do is keep moving forward, trust the people I have around me, and continue to build this thing. And it's been a blessing so far, man. And we're still, I mean, I tell folks, it's like, hey, if we're on a marathon, if we're on a marathon right now, Ryan is on mile one. And I already have to shit. We are it's still so early that you know we don't know what the brand is gonna grow into one day. But regardless of what it does, I think the mission and and the message around it, how people are challenged to assess their own life and what their purpose is, I think that'll always remain the same.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Yeah. And and I've I've seen the content, and I gotta tell you, just the the foundational in video of where the concept came from really spoke to me because it resonated deeply within my own mission. And I think that what you're doing right now is you're speaking to not just, you know, the audience, your future buyers, but individuals that are looking to get into the space, veterans, service members are looking for that voice to say, can I do it? Can I do this? And I think that's important in this space because I'll tell you right now, I'm a dog shit entrepreneur. And the the one thing I want people to know is like you don't have to do it like I did. I'm a creative. So I have my approach to business is completely the wrong way to do it. I'm figuring things out better now. I'm scaling, I'm growing, and I'm in love with this. But there's a way to shortcut your road to success and to get paid. Don't do it the way I did it. It was a lot of creativity, a lot of fun things. I'm now, I'm now growing, I'm bringing more clients. But I will say this there are programs out there that can help during your transition. One of the ones that I just want to throw out there, free chicken for you guys. They're not a sponsor yet. Go to Warrior Rising. If you have, if you have an idea, if you have a concept, but you need the foundational information, you need somebody to help you bring it into fruition. The first course is online self-paced. Go to WarriorRising.com right now, figure out your concept, figuring out your why. Take their first course that's, like I said, online, free self-paced, and start working through the problem set. Start frigging, taking it out from here and putting it out in the real world. Um, the other one that I want to plug in shamelessly is the honor foundation. If you're still in and you're looking and you're part of special operations and you're looking for that warm send-off into the civilian world, it doesn't get better than the honor foundation. Both of those individuals entities will be in the episode description. You don't have to go to that right now. We got plenty more to talk about. We'll review that at the end. But now that we're focused on grind, can you dive into your ideas for where it's going in the future? What you want to see for it.

Application Denial And Civilian Pivot

SPEAKER_00 41:59

Well, I'm going to back up and just say about Warrior Rising. They are a phenomenal organization. So much as that I started this, you know, I started Grind and then learned about Warrior Rising through a friend, uh Lyson Michelle. She's down in San Antonio. She plugged me in with them. I actually just signed up about a month and a half ago. No way. Just because it's like it's free chicken. And it's like, hey, I'm out of, like, there's things in here that I can learn about. There's things in here that I don't know. Even though I've already started, I don't know what I'm doing. No, it's it's you know, it's it's free information. So, uh, and they've got a phenomenal organization and they are serving that as their mission. So if you're out there again, uh check it out. Please check it out. Uh, but for grind, man, you know, I I believe Grind would be a global activewear brand, you know, and long term, what I view is building Grind HQ here in Dallas, Texas. Oh, dude. And yeah, so I'm I'm in Dallas and I want to build a state-of-the-art performance facility where I have a private practice embedded in it. And man, like, and I've told this to some friends, I don't care to make a dollar as a physical therapist. If I can build a practice in a facility and treat the veteran that is struggling getting a VA claim through, that has low chronic low back pain, if I can treat that athlete in South Dallas that just got an offer to AM, but mom doesn't have insurance, if I can treat those individuals every day, I'm happy. Like that is that is physical therapy to me. If I can help those people in need get better, improve their function, improve their performance, reach their goals as a PT, I don't need to make any money. Now, for the brand, you know, this facility, I want to be able to have a front end retail. I want to have back end brand, you know, true business architecture structure within this facility. And, dude, I'm all about impact. You know, I want to find ways to serve others on a global scale. Because I believe, man, you know, what, 8 billion people in the world? Dude, 8 billion people are on the grind every day chasing something. And if I can just be a catalyst to make you dig a little bit deeper and identify what your odd is, why are you doing this? Why are you in school? Why are you in the military? Why are you working out at 5 a.m.? Why are you getting your kids ready for school? Why did you become a parent? What is this? What is your thing in life? Because we are all, we all get on autopilot every day. We just, I mean, I drove home the other day after work, got off at 7, got home at 7.25. I don't even remember driving home. I was just so just unplugged, you know. But if I can create a brand around this message, this world around this message, I can only hope that people will reach their goals and feel meaning in life behind it.

SPEAKER_02 45:00

Absolutely. That's an important thing to understand. Like, try to whatever you're going into after your service, understand at your at the most basic building fundamentals of who you are as a person. There's a person of service there. You you absolutely, and I'm I've talked to so many individuals, like, I'm not a person of service. I want to work in this this vertical. I'm gonna go do this and tech to and I I want to make tons of money, and they go do that in six months, and then they leave and they go become a firefighter or a police officer. And I'm like, fucking told you, man. You're a person of service. We could have we could have cut all that stress, all that heartache out, and just identified whatever you go into. Make sure that it's really connected and nested down to your core values. Understand that before you go chase the uh the money. The money will come. Trust, trust and have faith that God will provide. But have enough courage, have enough courage to start thinking about what you want in life, what your mission, what you're passionate about. And maybe it's to go back to school, maybe it's to take some time off and be with your family, but you gotta have the courage to ask those questions. You know, where you're at right now in life, what do you think are the biggest things that you're still struggling with?

SPEAKER_00 46:22

I mean, I think the biggest thing is confidence on a daily basis, you know, if that imposter syndrome doesn't go away, you just build more proof, you you get more evidence on a daily basis, you know, it still pops up, you know. Uh I just had a total knee replacement come in, and I'm like, he's swollen. He, I'm like, oh man, like this guy. And I'm just like, and he's older, and his wife is there, and she's emotional, and I'm just like kind of rattled a bit. And then I remember, oh, I've done this before, you know. Like, I know, I know, I know everything I need to do. And I think because I've gone through these experiences in life, I recognize that that the best thing I can do in any situation is relate to someone on a personal level, and then we can solve problems together. So confidence on a daily basis has definitely been a struggle of mine, and it's why I train so hard. I I don't know why I train like I'm still doing selection. I don't know.

Transition Imposter Syndrome And Identity Loss

SPEAKER_02 47:27

It's yeah, but it's it's important though. That's one thing that um, you know, shout out to the 100-day challenge, still going on. You can jump in whenever you want, folks. There you go. Past the 30-day mark, and Lent is uh is especially wonderful this year because I'm fasting all day long. Um, but it's one of the things that I realized one of the most important things is that physical fitness. Every every veteran, for the most part, every veteran gets out and they're like, I don't have to do PT, I'm gonna take it easy. It's a part of who you are, continue chasing it down. And you don't have to chase the body of you know your your peak performance when you're in your 20s. But yeah, it is an added bonus when you can see the changes in the mirror in the scale. Like as a a doctor in this field, when you are seeing the proof or somebody getting able, I have to imagine that when you see one of your patients able to move better, able to perform better, that's gotta hit you at that core where you're like, hell yes, dude.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

It's an emotional experience, you know. Um it's it's like seeing one of your young rangers get his tab, or you know, um, I remember when one of my guys went to uh he took the long walk and made it, you know, like like that. You just you're just happy, you know, and but that's what you get when you serve others. You like there, you can't replace that man, because I mean, you you've had a lot of success in your life. And when you succeed or you accomplish something, uh I mean, I I never feel that great about it, you know, because it's it's it's about me in a sense. I remember when I graduated PT school, I didn't even want to go to graduation. My I only went because of my parents. They're like, you're going. I just for me, if I can help someone else accomplish their goal or get better or go further in any way, the it there's that is and you know, you're Christian, I'm Christian, like that is why we're here. Yeah. That is that it that is our singular purpose in life. It is to serve others and to take care of one another. And um, kind of back to your comment earlier, you know, I was about money and chasing a dollar sign. Dallas is a very wealthy place, you know. Like there, there's some money in Dallas, Texas. It's not my pocket, but it's here in this town. And um when I first got here, I was, you know, I'm a social person. I can make friends with a rock. And uh I'm out hanging out with some guys that make some great money. And I couldn't relate to them at all. I I just we just the our view of the world is completely different, you know, and it's because their entire life has been a capitalistic endeavor. Where my entire life has been about serving others, you know. And I think if if you're out there and you know, service obviously has been a part of your life in some way, if you can find a way to continue doing that, like you said, the money will come. It absolutely will. And when you make the money, you'll feel better about it, you know. Like you will feel it will you will feel like you truly earn the money. Yeah. And I that's I mean, that's important. It's really important.

Mental Health Struggles And Finding Therapy

SPEAKER_02 50:44

It is. That is that's the the wise sage advice, too. And I say it all the time. People, I talk with a lot of guys that want to get in the creative space, that want to do this stuff, and it there's something to be said about going positive. I I don't dive into why this per like you can make a lot of money if you make a YouTube video identifying why this other individual is a piece of shit. This guy in the moment, he's a piece of shit. Here's why. And you see them all, you see the testimonial videos pop up, like, hey, how's it going? This is uh Jimmy, and now I'm gonna tell you why Steve over there is a piece of shit. Like, I don't need to do that. Sure. Like it you're tapping into the most basic thing about human beings at our core, before we find God, before we we dive. We have this thing within us that we want to be assholes, we want to ridicule people, we want to tear people down. Don't do it. I'm I'm telling you, I'm speaking to you right now. Maybe you want to start a podcast, maybe you want to start a YouTube channel. I'm telling you, don't go negative, go positive. Figure out a way to inspire people, figure out a way to bring something good into this world because there is no shortage of bad content out there that just glorifies something that's disgustingly awful. And it's normal, it's human. Go the opposite way. I'm telling you, the greatest thing about doing this, connecting with people like you, Harrison, is at the end of the day, I get to go to bed knowing that I amplified somebody that's a good human being with a positive message that will be successful, wildly successful, because they're in it for the right reason. And that's what we should all be aspiring to do. Dream a little bit. Like becoming a physical therapist is not an easy thing, but holy cow, look at the impact you have on a daily basis to help somebody move better, recover, to reach their dreams of being an athlete or just being a dad that can pick up their kid again. How freaking awesome is that? And I think we need to do that. A lot of us need to dream again, bet on ourselves, be willing to go back to medical school. Look, I know it's it seems impossible, but there's people out there doing it that are your age or older, that are in a in a worse off than you are. So why not dream? Why not be willing to bet on yourself? It's it's ridiculous that. And I wanted to before we close out, we know we're running short on time. One of the biggest myths out there is that our officers don't struggle. I hear it all the time. Oh, officers got a maid in the shade when they transition. They don't they don't struggle. Right. They're they're human beings. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:23

Yeah. Everyone struggles, man. It's just so I mean, when when I got out, it was uh, you know, about 15 guys that I was really close with. And, you know, they all, and this is actually a great kind of segue into actually a comment about that you made earlier is you know, about 15 guys, we all get out around the same time. And, you know, I go to PT school, another buddy wants to go be an orthopedic surgeon. Everyone else went to Ivy League NBA, you know, like Stanford, Wharton, Darden, Harvard, they that's where they went, right? And now all these guys are in consulting and they're making great money, but they hate their life. They hate their life. And I share that because that that decision can change your life. Like, like aligning yourself with who you are as an individual really matters. And you can tell the difference between there's nothing wrong with consulting. And I think I got a lot of buddies out there that are, you know, they're grinding through this consulting phase and they'll realize this isn't it and they'll go search for purpose in some other way. Um, but the closer you can align yourself with your true purpose in life, just the the better the the quality of your life will be completely changed. That and for me, you know, finding God after service was incredibly important as well.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

Yes, because we gotta talk about that, man. Like uh it's it's it's good to know that there are others out, and I think that there's there's a growing number of veterans specifically that are finally understanding. I know I did, I didn't come back to my faith till after I started rebuilding myself from my downward spiral, my great crash. Um, there's something to be said about building all three mind, body, and the final one, spirit. How did you finally come to this realization that there was something more out there?

Creating Grind And Building A Team

SPEAKER_00 55:22

So it kind of goes back to that trust conversation we're having. You know, one when I was out in Washington, there wasn't a lot of Jesus out there. Uh and and I'm from Louisiana, which is, you know, quite the Bible belt region, region of the world. And I hit that breaking point, man. I hit that breaking point, and it was answering the question that I can't do this alone anymore. And it's been shown to me time and time again that this is real, you know, God, Jesus exists, like this is a real thing. But I was so caught up in, you know, the world, you know, and the flesh and all these things that I enjoyed that I wasn't allowing myself to see it clearly. And it wasn't until I moved to Dallas, you know, end of 24, I joined a church here in town, Shoreline City, phenomenal community and church. And the pastor ended becoming a patient of mine. Oh, wow. So I was like, oh, I'm going to heaven. You know, like I'm in. I'm in. You know, and uh phenomenal, phenomenal man. And and that it's in the last year, it's completely, I mean, completely changed my life. I I can't even, I can't even really describe it because the way I view others, the way I view myself, the way I view the relationships I have with women, the way I view everything has completely changed. I I breathe differently, I see differently, I solve problems differently, I communicate differently. Like it it completely has transcended how I view the world. And it's made me human again. It's provided this sensible approach to reality, where for a long time I was just numb to anything that can make me feel off mission. Yeah. If I got my feelings hurt, a relationship went bad, a breakup, failed exam, whatever. I was just, I'm good. I'm locked in. Now that can still be true, but I appreciate who I truly am as a person more than ever. And I'm sensitive to that. Other people's feelings affect me now. And I think that makes you a better human. And we need we veterans have to get back to that because we're the most, I mean, we got the, you know, that stare in our eyes, that look, we're we're just locked in. We can't be hurt. But in reality, that hurt is a strength. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:57

Absolutely, man. I think one of the biggest things that we have to get over is this idea that we can't come, can't come to God, can't come to Jesus later in life, that it's not for me. I was a veteran or I did this or I did that. I'm like, I was there. I was there. And I will tell you not only are you the perfect person, but you're exactly who he needs on his team. I'm telling you. And it I feel more at ease bringing this message more and more because it's all personal testimonials. And I'm telling you, everything in my life right now, everything that's going good, I have because I've come to my faith. I've been able to say, like, I am gonna make this my pillar. I'm gonna make this a focal point in my life, like, where it's not an option. It's it's a it's an understanding of like my rosary, my prayers, going to confession, going to adoration, making those big moves. You know, I'm I'm full up front with any new client that I take on. Like, you're not going to take my time on the weekends, and you're not going to take my time during these blocked times because I've now understand my superpower. It's not mine. It's being able to sit down and say, all right, I need your help. I need this moment of reflection early in the morning. This is what I need. My clarity that comes after I have my morning walk and I do my rosary. That's my superpower. That gives me the ability to say, all right, I've devoted my, I've given myself time in the morning to work out, give myself time in the morning to prayer, to reflection, and in this in this powerful Lent season to uh go without and and give that up, give that little bit of suffering to to to God and understand that I'm doing this for a purpose. It's not fun, but it's great knowing that, hey, in this, in this, this small amount of time, I'm choosing to give this and this up, and I'm working hard on the swearing. It's I'm not there yet. It's not always. But I remember the other morning I told my wife, I'm like, I'm I'm I'm going through the day, and at least at the end of the day, I can say, like, hey, I fasted and I remained straight through my fast. I drink a little bit of an energy drink for this interview. I had, I think he's understanding because I had to make sure I was able to get get focused. But other than that, it's it's such a great feeling that I'm not just giving way to everything that I want. I'm sticking true to my faith. I'm sticking through true to what I know I need to do for this period in time and every day and every week that I go forward. And that the great thing is now being able to connect with individuals like yourself that are also on this journey that say, you know what? Like, no, I'm a high-functioning individual. I'm I am choosing to get plugged into my faith because it pours back into me. It's that third domain, it's that third pillar that all of us need to take time. And I know, you know, it's a little bit difficult for some people in your time. Experience it. I I came to it through mindfulness. And mindfulness and meditation brought me back to faith. And that that to me is perfect because a lot of people think, oh, it's completely different. I'm like, nope. It's very much, it's very much connected, man. So whatever you feel, whatever's in your heart today, take one little step. I'm telling you, we need it. All of us need it.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:07

And it can change your life, you know. It really can. And, you know, I sit in a uh a group every Thursday morning, 7 a.m. My church has a alignment, all men's group. About 150 men come to the church. We have coffee and we get in small groups and we talk. They know everything about me. You know, but I I came in, I'm just raw. They're like, all right, hey, I can talk. So let's chat, you know, and uh it's just such an empowering experience, man. It's, I mean, I I owe a lot of who I am like today, within the last year of being at Shoreline City. You know, it's yeah, this past weekend I actually just went and uh I signed up to be on the serve team. So I'm gonna start serving and you know, find out a way to continue to give back in any way.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:56

That's awesome. And and it's a beautiful full circle moment because now you're you're back in another community where you have trust, where you feel you have trust within a community of individuals that worship and and are there serving the same mission, dude. Like that's something that's beautiful. That, man, have you reflected on that?

Vision For Grind HQ And Service

SPEAKER_00 1:02:16

Like you, you yeah, man. And it it works, it it is truly helping that number one thing I struggle with, that confidence, you know? Yeah. I don't, I, I don't, the the moments I don't have the confidence, anxiety comes in, right? We all felt that anxiety, you know, and I give it to God and I'm done. I get I give to God and I can move forward with confidence and faith for whatever the outcome is. I've already won. We've already won, you know, and that gives me so much joy and and comfort in whatever decision I gotta make, whatever comes next, I I just know that it's gonna work out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:55

Man, that is awesome. I I am uh I'm awesome. I'm just so glad and so thrilled that we're able to tap into this. And that's like the perfect place to wrap it up because I don't I don't wanna I don't want any other message other than this, man. Take it from us. Take it from us. Like life comes at you really fast, and faith is what the last thing for a lot of us that we get to. Like we get, and it's a privilege to be able to work on it on the back side. Um, so it's a powerful reminder to everybody out there if you're struggling, take a knee and experience and explore that last pillar. Be willing to explore it. Um, Harrison, I can't thank you enough to be here for being here today talking about your journey and and sharing with us your testimony, man. This is powerful. Before I let you go, though, tell us some more about grind. Where can we connect with you? Where can we follow your journey?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:47

Yeah, so uh, you know, if you're on Instagram, our handle is grind.us, grnd.us. Our website is thegrindcollective.com. And hey, if you're out there, chances are you're a part of the grind community already. You just don't know it yet. You're going further every day, you're giving 100% and then some, you're on the grind chasing purpose every day. So we look forward to having you.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:12

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