Embracing the Call - A Journey of Listening to Your Spirit - Pamela Downes : 148

Pamela's journey is inspiring. She overcame a difficult childhood with an abusive, alcoholic father to become a successful entrepreneur and spiritual leader. Pamela shares how art school served as a sanctuary where she first embraced her uniqueness, and a life-altering encounter with a psychic medium offered the closure she never expected, changing the course of her life.

Pamela's journey took her from being an artist to starting a successful marketing and branding firm. She was inspired by spiritual teachings, like those from Abraham Hicks and the law of attraction. These ideas helped her make bold choices, such as ending her marriage to focus on her personal growth and healing. Practices like Reiki and meditation enabled her to discover hidden talents during a time of personal change and spiritual awakening. Pamela learned that our words and thoughts shape our reality.

Pamela Downes founded Spirit Calling, a platform that guides people through their spiritual awakening. The Spirit Calling online community offers classes and tools to heal the body, mind, and spirit.
Let's enjoy her story.

To connect: https://spirit-calling.com/
TV show: Divine Wisdom
Podcast:  Live the Call

Chapters

• 7:11 Awakening Through Spirituality and Forgiveness
• 15:49 Healing and Transformation Through Spiritual Awakening
• 26:08 Empowering Spiritual Awakening and Guidance
• 36:34 The Power of Spiritual Transformation

Transcript

Daniela SM: 0:00

Hi, I'm Daniela. Welcome to my podcast. Because Everyone has a Story, the place to give ordinary people's stories the chance to be shared and preserved. Our stories become the language of connections. Let's enjoy it, connect and relate, because everyone has a story. Late, because everyone has a story. Welcome. Today. My guest is Pamela Downs. What a beautiful human. She shares her inspiring journey from a difficult childhood with an abusive alcoholic father to becoming a successful entrepreneur and spiritual leader. After finding solace in art school, a life-changing encounter with a psychic medium gave her the closure she never expected. Inspired by teachings like Abraham Hicks and the law of attraction, Pamela made bold choices to focus on healing and personal growth and now, as the founder of Spirit Calling, she helps others on their spiritual journey. So I hope you enjoy her story as much as I did.

Pamela Downes: 1:15

Welcome, Pamela to the show. Oh gosh, I'm so happy to be here and it's so great to see your smiling face. I can't wait to talk today.

Daniela SM: 1:23

Yes, yes, I'm super excited and I can see beautiful colors that you have surrounding you. So it's just amazing. It's perfect thing to do to wake up in the morning and see these amazing colors and your beautiful smiles.

Pamela Downes: 1:33

So, yes, oh, thank you, that's so nice.

Daniela SM: 1:36

Yes, and so you're here because you have a story, so why do you want to share your story?

Pamela Downes: 1:42

Because I believe that sharing my story can inspire others that maybe have gone through some of the same things that I've gone through and can see how your life can change in ways you never even imagined, never even thought of, never even on your vision board or in your ideas.

Daniela SM: 2:00

Yes, and that's true. Sharing stories is so important and thank you for doing that. So when does your story start, pamela I?

Pamela Downes: 2:08

think that my story starts when I was a young girl. I never felt like I really fit into my family. I always felt like I was different, even in my friend groups. What I had going on was multifaceted. I was a musician and I was an artist. I was a super feeler, but I didn't really understand what any of that was back then, until I was older and could understand.

Pamela Downes: 2:28

I was an empath. I had an Italian Catholic upbringing and I had a beautiful grandfather and grandmother. I had a nice life, but I also had a challenging life because my father was an emotionally and physically and verbally abusive alcoholic. The whole entire world revolved around him and we were all fearful of him and I didn't have a relationship of love. I had one of fear with him so I lacked confidence in regards of knowing that I had a strong father figure to instill that confidence in me. As a young daughter, that didn't exist. I always got along really well with people. I always resonated and connected with older adults.

Pamela Downes: 3:08

I wound up waitressing through most of my since I was 15, I waitressed all the way up into pay for college. So I waitressed for a long time, met a lot of different kinds of people there. I just always was different. I didn't understand my uniqueness until I, of course, got older. We all travel on our life path. We have our journey, we have our story that evolves into the story of who we are. I wound up finding my people when I went to art school and I found a whole bunch of people that were just like me. They were weird and I was like I resonate with these people, I get these people, I feel comfortable with these people. I finally, as a young woman, started understanding my worth, started feeling like I brought something to the world, like I had talent, like I had a voice. I started seeing how people responded to me and I started understanding that I am beautiful, I am worthy. I remember my first job that I got. I was an art director of a magazine in Philadelphia. I kept on thinking that they were going to find out that I was an imposter, like they were going to find out that I really shouldn't be in this job, although they hired me and they made me go through all the things to get the job. But that's how insecure I was. I wound up getting married, having my own children, and in my marriage it was what everyone did. It was the next step. You fell in love, you got married, you had babies, and everybody's families were all involved with everybody's families, and that's what you knew, it's what you grew up with, so it's what you did.

Pamela Downes: 4:38

I would like to say that there was a culmination of things that were happening in my life. My father, who had stopped drinking, returned to alcohol, and I was watching him lose his battle to alcohol. I was going through what I call my knockdown. The recession happened in 2012, and my husband and I at the time, I had my own business. He had a job in corporate and he lost his job. The marketing got cut and I lost a lot of my clients, and so we were going through a shift.

Pamela Downes: 5:08

We lived in an affluent town and we had money, and we had experiences, and we had friends and we had all these things, and every decade of your life, you learn something new about yourself, about the world, about all the things, and at that moment in my life I had a dynamic shift. I had my knockdown. Everything in my life changed at the same time. I did not understand what was happening. My father died and I witnessed the life leave his body and I thought where did my father go. His body's here, but the energy, like who he was just was gone. I didn't understand that. I started understanding that there was more to a physical form than just this physical being and I started going down this rabbit hole of wanting to understand what that was.

Pamela Downes: 5:51

I was invited to this spiritual medium gallery and I walked in to the gallery and I sat down in the front. The psychic medium was there. I had never been to a psychic medium before. He came over to me and he said your father's here. He died of his liver or alcohol. And I said, yeah, that's exactly how my father died.

Pamela Downes: 6:11

My father lost his battle to alcohol and his liver failed. He wants you to know that he's here and that he never told you how talented you were and then he never told you how creative you were and he never said that he loved you. And he sees how you show up in the world. And then he never told you how creative you are and he never said that he loved you. And he sees how you show up in the world and he sees the kind of person that you are and he wishes that he could be more like you.

Pamela Downes: 6:34

And at the time I was going through really difficult things in my life. I was losing my retirement, my husband lost his job. We actually lost our house. We lost our friends. Ultimately, I lost my marriage. That was like a big statement for me for him to say that, because I knew how he showed up, I knew who he was and he never, never told me I was talented or told me that he loved me or appreciated me or even understood me right. So that was proof to me that life existed beyond our physical form, that there was life after death.

Daniela SM: 7:08

And you believe in things like this before.

Pamela Downes: 7:10

No, I didn't. I was raised Catholic and at the time, you know, these pieces were moving in my life. The Catholic church was going through a major shift. There was a lot of secrecy happening, a lot of abuse to children happening, a lot of like shuffling priests to different parishes and like secrecy happening and I was like what is that? I don't understand what that is. That's not like love, like that doesn't make sense. And then I kept thinking okay, if God is love and I die, how is God? Who is love going to look at me and judge me and either give me eternal life or sentence me to eternal damnation? I don't understand that. That's a complete contradiction of love. Those pieces don't fit to me. And then my children are born.

Pamela Downes: 7:53

I did the baptism, I did all the things that I was supposed to do because I was a good daughter and good granddaughter and good Catholic person. But it didn't feel right because this perfect little baby that was born in perfection, they were telling me if I didn't baptize it, that it was going to go to hell. I'm like I mean, none of those things made sense to me. I was just having breakdowns. Everything was breaking, the threads were pulling apart and this whole reality that I knew, that I once knew and I was bred into it, was just diminishing. So then when my dad died, it was like, oh okay, where did he go? I needed to know where he went. And then that spiritual mediumship gallery just broke it wide open for me. It was done. After that I found myself in the metaphysical section of the library looking at books, trying to understand. I read many lives, many masters by Dr Weiss about past lives.

Daniela SM: 8:44

Yes, me too, and I did it exactly the same as when my dad passed away.

Pamela Downes: 8:48

Oh, my gosh, wow, that's amazing. Yeah, so you know, you know that you wanted to know more, you wanted to open up that door. There was a crack in that. Like I said, the fabric was breaking and you wanted to see what was on the other side of this veil, what was on the other side, and that started my spiritual awakening journey. So I often say, the culmination of losing my marriage, losing my father, having the big questions, finding some answers, it was the beginning. It was that spark.

Pamela Downes: 9:19

And we travel in soul families and we agree, before we come down here, that we're each going to play a part in a role and we're going to show contrast. And we agree, before we come down here, that we're each going to play a part in a role and we're going to show contrast and we're going to show up in a certain way so that I can learn this and you can learn that. My dad, he sparked my spiritual awakening journey. Because of my dad, everything shifted as I was getting older and I was experiencing life. I started having compassion for him and I forgave him.

Pamela Downes: 9:40

And one of the biggest things, that, if anyone is listening and they're holding onto resentment and they are filling themselves with that feeling of resentment. You are just doing a disservice to yourself because you're holding yourself back. The biggest thing you could do for yourself is to forgive that person, because then you're putting love in the space of fear and anger and resentment and you're elevating yourself to higher and better and opening up your life in different ways. I wanted more. I wanted to learn more about everything, daniella, what else can I learn about?

Daniela SM: 10:11

I heard you shouldn't even think about forgiveness, because then you're thinking that you're better than them and I find that sometimes it's hard to do this. Forgiveness For me. You have to forgive yourself before anything. I had a really bad relationship. I intellectualized it, I was very strategic about it. I had to forgive myself for how did I go out with that guy. So I think it's more that than sometimes the other person.

Pamela Downes: 10:36

Yeah, but you know what it all comes down to compassion, it's a heart expansion. So it's just a word forgiveness, but it's actually the experience of understanding. You did like to forgive yourself is okay, it's giving, it's giving yourself grace Like understand that. I love this word for 2024 grace, it is the best word. It's understanding you did what you could do at the time that you were there when you showed up to do it. That's it. That's compassion, it's grace, it's understanding, it's love and it's.

Daniela SM: 11:08

You know, that's what I started understanding about my dad, but that's the same as saying they did the best they could with what they had at the time. That's why. So that's intellectualizing it and, of course, you know, if you're a smart person, using your brain, that you can understand. Everything is justified. They probably had worse. Parents didn't have any knowledge. Here we are and we have the opportunities for social media and everything that you can learn more. Does everyone does it? No, how come? We want to grow, we want to learn. Some other people don't.

Pamela Downes: 11:41

Some other people don't, because they're just not there yet. I channel angelic beings and they teach lessons. I lead a community and the message is that they just want everyone to understand so much. Is that to pay attention to what you're spending your time. With what you're spending your time thinking, doing, talking. You have to honor yourself and hold yourself in high regard.

Pamela Downes: 12:02

You're doing all the wrong things if you're spending your time worrying about a conversation or holding on to a resentment from someone else, or spending time talking to someone else about that person's experience. You need to pay attention to your words, pay attention to your experiences, pay attention to what you're spending your time doing saying, thinking, feeling because ultimately, it's all about you, it's your individual journey. And so many people are walking around the planet just consuming and digesting everything and anything with no filters whatsoever, and they're not thinking about anything except what's put in front of them. And the people that are thinking, they're expanding themselves. They're trying to learn more. They're trying to. Whatever that level of learning is, it's more than what they had before, especially right now, with the chaos that's happening all over the world.

Daniela SM: 12:48

That's true. Thank you for sharing that. You're welcome, pamela. You read these books. You went and saw this spiritual awakening. You study arts and so you were working as an artist. I was.

Pamela Downes: 13:00

I started my own business in 2000,. Yeah, and what was it? A marketing and branding firm. So I wound up getting a bachelor's in fine arts and graphic design and after I worked for the magazine, I learned all the skills that I needed to. I wound up having my own business and working with clients and learning more and more about myself and how I connect with people, how I'm able to connect to their heart base. And I didn't know what I was doing at the time. I just knew that I was really good at visually translating what people needed and I could understand what they needed for their business, for their life, for if they were starting a business, or even, like you know, a piece of marketing material for an annual report or something like that for a nonprofit. But I was tapping into my creativity.

Pamela Downes: 13:45

As a young child, when I went through tumultuous times in my household, I would always go to my music or I would go to my art and I used to say that I was escaping. But I actually was tapping into spirit, I was tapping into the divine. I was tapping into that higher frequency of inspiration in spirit. I was going to a place that felt comfortable, happy, warm, safe for me and that's what art was, even if I was working professionally, and that's what art was, even if I was working professionally. I was going into those spaces of tapping into that place. You know, I had my business.

Pamela Downes: 14:34

I guess 14 years by the time my marriage ultimately ended. And another big pivotal moment in my life was when I decided that my marriage was not serving me any longer. And during that difficult time that I was talking about before, I found Abraham Hicks and I found out about the law of attraction and I started understanding that we are the creators of our realities, that our words actually mean something, that there's a vibration and a frequency to everything. I was scratching the surface of playing with the universe and saying okay, really, if I manifest what I think, what I say, what I desire, show me, let's play a game. And I remember thinking all right, show me a red ball, because Abraham is also Esther channels, this group of angelic beings called Abraham, and I was very, very drawn to them.

Pamela Downes: 15:07

In the beginning of my spiritual awakening she said just be playful with the universe, ask and don't expect. Ask and don't expect. I said okay, let's play. So he said I want to see a red ball. Let me just see a red ball throwing something silly that I don't really care about out there. And then later that day I was just scrolling on Facebook. I had a trainer that I was working with at the time and he was in my feed. So I'm scrolling in my feed and he's sitting there with his daughter on his lap and she throws a red ball at the person who is recording this FaceTime video and I was like, okay, that was fascinating, I see how that works, let's do more of that. And I kept doing that and I kept understanding, actually, that like my words were creating my reality.

Pamela Downes: 15:49

I started understanding that I was beating the drum of talking about what is rather than what I wanted. I was talking about all of what was happening in my life. My husband lost his job, we lost our home, marketing got cut. Things were really hard. We're struggling. I turned it upside down and I started saying it's amazing. We're carrying our big house, we moved into a little house and we have a renter. I've kept my business through a recession. We're all living in this tiny house and I can walk my kids to school and I would go walking every morning and listen to the teachings of Abraham Hicks, and it was another up-leveling in my understanding.

Pamela Downes: 16:29

Everything has a story. Like you go from one thing to the next thing, to the next thing, the universe gives you what you need, exactly when you need it, to keep your expansion happening. What happened next was that I started understanding everything and I started changing. But my husband was not and that's not to say he was bad or it shouldn't have been. A certain way, it was what it was. I was multicolor. I was like seeing everything in these new ways and he was black or white. It was done with him. We were saying you know, we should stay together until our kids are in college.

Pamela Downes: 17:01

That was 10 years ago, by the way, and I said I can't accept that for my future. That's like a fearful decision. I have to make a loving decision and I just know that there's more and I don't think that I want that for my future. It was so scary, daniela. It was like I kept knowing. I started getting knowings at that point. I kept knowing like I have to do this. I remember sitting in the corner of my office on the floor with my back up against the wall. I haven't had this memory in a long time. So I might get emotional and I remember saying I can't do it, like I'm so scared. I might get emotional and I remember saying I can't do it Like I'm so scared. How do I tell my children that we're not going to be your family anymore? How do I tell my family? How do I tell? How do I do this? How do I live by myself? I don't know how to do this. I'm so scared and I kept hearing like I have to do it, you have to do it, you have to do it. There's something more, there's something more. And finally I said we have to do this. And we had an amicable divorce and we put love above everything else and the kids sat in a space of love and we were beneath them. We didn't fight and everything.

Pamela Downes: 18:03

But that was another pivotal moment of choosing love and not fear and my whole entire life changed again. I chose love and not fear and the whole trajectory of my life changed. I had no idea that I was going to start my healing journey, that I was going to start opening myself up to Reiki and meditation and doing work with energy workers and then ultimately starting to understand that I have those talents and then understanding that I needed to explore them more and then understanding, by listening and seeing all the breadcrumbs that came before me and saying yes to them, by saying yes to them and choosing love and not fear that I kept opening up the doorways to the world of possibilities, to the world of opportunities, of things that I never, ever imagined could be there. And then, one day I think in 2018, I saw a video about a man named Gerald Powell and he had opened this new place in Costa Rica called Rhythmia Life Advancement Center. He was addicted to sex, to gambling, to booze, to drugs, to everything you could think of, and he was on the path of demise. And someone told him about this plant medicine called ayahuasca. I think he did ayahuasca, or he did a different plant medicine in the jungles, and they challenged him to do it and he did it. His whole entire life changed. He cured himself of all of his addictions. He was a hotelier, la. He took all of his life skills that was his story and he applied it with this new perspective and he created healing centers for people to be able to take plant medicine to help and heal themselves.

Pamela Downes: 19:49

The moment I saw it, I knew I was going to do it. I didn't know how I was going to go there, I didn't know when I was going to go there. I just knew I was going to go there and how long was this. This was a seven day healing vacation sort of. But what year? I went? In 2019.

Daniela SM: 20:03

Okay, so no longer.

Pamela Downes: 20:09

But I saw all this in 2018. I didn't know how I was going to go, like I just had the knowing. But through the course of events, of the universe, putting people in front of me and me saying yes and there being opportunity and me saying yes, I met this person who said to me Pamela, I would love for you to go and go into this place called Rhythmia Life Advancement Center. And I said I know Rhythmia, I'm going there, I don't know when, and he goes well, I would like for you to come with us. It's a small group. I'm in this group, the spiritual group, and one of the owners of Rhythmia is in this group. They're shutting down the whole place and they're just opening it up to 40 people that are in this private group. I would like you to come with us. And I was like okay, you didn't have any addictions. I had already had like time scheduled to go away, like I had to make this happen. I couldn't let excuses keep me from going. That's the thing when these opportunities come that you say you want, you have to do them. And so I figured it out and I made it happen.

Pamela Downes: 21:04

And when I went there, I was so scared. My thing was fear. I had to push through a lot of fear. I had to heal a lot of fear. I'm still like healing certain aspects of myself. The plant medicine is sacred and it's intentional and it's a sacred, sacred ritual and it's beautiful. And through doing that plant medicine all of my psychic abilities opened up. So I went there for that. I didn't know why, daniela, like I had no idea why, but that is why, because at the end of this I released all I had, all of these healing experiences over the course of this week, and it released trauma and raised my vibration. So my frequency kept shifting and elevate and at the end of this week long plant medicine journey we did a breath work class. This white light shot through my third eye on my head. My head went crackle, crackle, crackle, my body filled up with vibration and I heard everything from this moment forward has changed. Your psychic abilities have been enhanced and I was crying and I lost my breath and it was like the most beautiful experience.

Daniela SM: 22:07

Anybody else had the same thing as you.

Pamela Downes: 22:10

Everyone who I was going with. They were already spiritual leaders, people who have been doing self-development and spiritual work for years. Many of the people that go there go to cure addictions. They go to heal trauma. So what I didn't say was Gerald Powell. Through that experience with his plant medicine journey, he understood, through a vision, that the plant medicine showed him that his grandfather molested him and that's why he had all of this hurt and trauma inside of him. He was able to heal that aspect of himself that no longer needed the addiction.

Daniela SM: 22:43

And in the seven days that you were there, how many times did you take ayahuasca?

Pamela Downes: 22:49

We took it for four days. So the first day that we got there we did like prep work and meditation and classes and stuff, and we did it four nights in a row but you take it multiple times during the night. It was incredible. It was the biggest, biggest experience of pushing through. I had a lot of fear inside of me and I think it's because of my youth and not getting the confidence I needed from my childhood. And also I've done a lot of past life work. I've done a lot. I've seen a lot of visions of my past lives. I've had many, many times where I've been tortured, killed, you know, for doing this spiritual work. So there was a lot of that compounded in my energy body, in my soul body that needed to be released, and that's what I did. I started doing that at Rhythmia when needed to be released, and that's what I did. I started doing that at Rhythmia when I got back in November. Shortly after that, covid came March of 2020.

Pamela Downes: 23:38

I was meditating every morning but there was something telling me that this was monumentous, that there was a shift that was happening on our planet. I wasn't approaching it like everyone else. I wasn't sitting in front of the television and just letting all of that news just permeate me constantly and letting myself get filled with fear. I was meditating every morning and suddenly I started working with this group of guides and then these beings would come in and I was experiencing different dimensions and different frequencies and angelic beings and alien beings, galactic beings and all different kinds of energies, different frequencies. They felt different ways and then they started giving me visions at night and I started having experiences at night, and so I was like on a fast track. Basically, what they said was true. Everything changed and it was suddenly like I was on this huge learning experience to figure out like high frequency, low frequency, galactic beings, angelic beings, and understanding them all. I meditated every morning and I worked with them and I actually kept doing the work I was doing.

Pamela Downes: 24:44

When I was down in Costa Rica, I was reliving these past lives and I was releasing trauma and I was going through them and raising my vibration each time until one day this group of beings that I connect with now called the Great Council of Light, they started intuiting me, they started channeling through me, they started talking through me and they would give me visions, they would give me downloads, they would give me words, I would see things, hear things. I mean, I was really having exponentially, I was just expanding. It was amazing. And then one night I woke up in the middle of the night and I heard spirit calling, spirit calling, and I got up and I wrote it down. Then in the morning I don't know why I bought the domain. I bought the URL because I knew it was important, because I was having a lot of premonitions and visions and I was being told what the future was going to happen and that there was going to be a war and there was going to be all these things coming, which all the things that I see are happening now in the future. I got up and I bought the domain and then every morning, when I was meditating, I kept hearing you are to build a portal for humanity. There's going to be a glass ceiling that breaks. Everything is going to change. People are going to stop in their tracks, they're not going to know who they are, what they've believed in, their entire world, and they're going to need a safe place to land. You need to make a portal for humanity. And I was like what is that I mean? You see what I mean when I say I had no idea what my story was, what my like? You can't plan this stuff.

Pamela Downes: 26:08

In the beginning I cowarded and I said me, I know how to do websites, I know how to do marketing and branding. What is a portal? Me, humankind? It just sounds so big to me. So I kept meditating and I kept hearing you are to build a portal, you are to build a portal. And as all of this was happening, I merged that business that I told you about that I had. I merged it with my client and we started a new business. So that was happening at the same time. So I have my guides over here saying build a portal for humanity. And meanwhile I'm over here like building this new business and I'm like I can't. How am I supposed to do this? And it kept coming do it, do it, do it. One night I woke up in the middle of the night and I saw these little wings, this little icon going do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, landing on an iPhone screen and I got up and I sketched it and then that morning I went oh my gosh, it's all the same thing. It's the portal, it's spirit calling it's, it's the logo, it's the whole thing, and it just expanded in my head and then I kept hearing you have to build it, you have to build it, you have to build it. And I built it and I launched it in January of this year. So it's a community to help support humankind.

Pamela Downes: 27:22

But I've also been I am an angelic channeler now. I teach people, I connect people's guides and I give them private messages and I do one-on-ones and I do sessions Like I never knew that I would do that. I never thought in my wildest dreams when I left my marriage one when I did ayahuasca too, when I did, you know, I never, I never thought that would be my story. So I say this, all of this, to inspire people who might be anywhere on that journey. It could be a simple thing, one that's just I'm tired of being fearful. It could be one thing in my story that is I'm not resonating in my marriage. It could be one thing in my story that says I'm hearing things and I don't know what that means, or I'm feeling a draw to move into this direction. I don't know what that is.

Pamela Downes: 28:15

When I was going through my spiritual awakening journey, I didn't have anyone really to talk to. I didn't have a community or like trust, friends or anything. I had one client who was reading the Many Lives, many Masters book at the same time I was in, so we would meet and talk about it. But I created a place where you have a community, where you can talk about the bumps in the night, where you could talk about the visions that you've had, where you can ask the questions that you can't ask at the dinner table or the conference room. I created a place that's safe for people to like explore. I'm really proud of that. You know I want the whole world to know about it because people are shifting now in amazing speed.

Daniela SM: 28:53

Yes, I know I'm amazing and it's interesting that for for me too, like I'm learning a lot of you know always have to learn and read about spiritual things, but but and I always admire the people have the power, because I think I have one, but it sounds more like I just have a sixth sense that I can read people's really easy, but lately know being recording and somehow, and as I'm starting to listen to you, I was like, oh my God, everybody is talking about the same thing lately, which is interesting, and so maybe there is a message right.

Daniela SM: 29:27

So, so exactly, Tell me. So I sign him on the website and what happens.

Pamela Downes: 29:33

So there's a couple of different ways to work with me. It's really important for me that everybody be able to afford guidance Like I don't want anyone to feel like they can't. So I started off with the spiritual community and it's really inexpensive. It's $25 a month and you have access to courses, to events, to community, to workshops, to a curated sound healing every month, to like resource libraries. It's amazing.

Pamela Downes: 29:58

But the one thing that I really have been called to do in the last several months is to put myself out there to help guide people so I'm able to connect to their guides, I'm able to tap in to speak to their guides, download messages of love, support and guidance for them. So, for instance, I met three different people last week, all completely individual. Actually, they were all podcast hosts, which is fascinating. But the first one was just starting to wake up. She is just in the beginning steps of her spiritual awakening journey. She's talking to her deceased grandparents, asking them to send a butterfly or something to show that they're there, and she's not really like reading or going on a journey of exploration. But she is now because she met me right and I know where she is on her journey, so I know how to guide her, to tell her that. I challenge her to ask for more. Don't just ask for a butterfly or a rainbow. You can ask for anything you want. The whole world is open to you. You're connected to all that is so the guides want you to ask. You have free will. You have to have a conviction inside of you to want it, to receive it. That expands your heart to be able to receive it. So I know where she is on her journey. I know what she needs and the next person I met is someone who's shifting their life, moving into a new part of what they're doing and their work, and they don't know which direction they want to go. They just want a little guidance to help them, kind of help them on their journey a little bit. That's a channeled message. She can send me a video and I can tap into her guides and send her the message back. And then the one-on-one is the elevated version of that, where we actually meet, we break it down, we talk, we brainstorm. I can give them guidance, I can tell them where they are on their journey, or they can do like a three-month thing where we do all of those things and I kind of guide them along the way, and for that one you get a community membership for the two of the three.

Pamela Downes: 32:00

And community is important. The community is really important because you want to know more, you want to talk to people. You really do so as you're learning, you want to tell it, shout it from the rooftops. Oh my God, did you know this? Did you ever hear of this? Like, I just read this or do you understand what's happening to me right now? And someone would be like, yeah, I do, I experienced that. Or a healer or a practitioner who we have aligned professionals in our portal too, could say hey, it sounds like you're experiencing this. You might want to maybe sign up for a session with me. I can help guide you through this. You might have a block, you might have this. So it's like everything I experienced on my journey together in one place. So it's kind of beautiful.

Daniela SM: 32:41

Yes, it sounds, yes, that's beautiful. And so you just started this year. I started in January. You still have a job I do.

Pamela Downes: 32:49

No, I run a full-time marketing firm. I have employees. Yeah, this will be my future. I've seen that many times. When that happens, I'm not sure I'm doing what is my spiritual journey? I'm doing what is my soul's purpose? We all are. We all are, and you said you think you have gifts. Everyone is born with it. Everyone is born with a pineal gland. Everyone is born with clear senses. Everyone is born as an energetic body. Our senses, everyone is born as an energetic body. We're sentient beings. We are energy. We have a frequency. Everything that's living has a frequency. We are connected to everything. We're not taught that. So that's part of what my journey is. Also is to like tell everybody who they actually are. They're amazing.

Daniela SM: 33:32

How has this helped you with your marketing business?

Pamela Downes: 33:34

Being a psychic, intuitive has helped me because I've watched it shift over the years. I used to, just as I said before, be able to tap in to that heart space easily and then, as it shifted into maybe part of the story where I was like getting ready to leave my marriage, I was a different version of that. I started attracting entrepreneurs that were leaving corporate and wanting to start their own business and then I was able to like see a path for them. It was interesting because I get excited. It's like my energy gets connected to them and I'm able to like see what the next steps are, help them with their messaging, help them. I could tap in. I could see this one person I was helping, rafael. I could see the visual of what he was explaining to me. So it was like elevating. Through my journey it's been elevating. So now, everywhere I go, I network like crazy.

Pamela Downes: 34:24

I'm in business development, mostly not creative. I have a creative director on staff. Every time I meet someone, every networking event, every coffee, every launch, spirituality comes up. So it's like the universe is using me in a different way, if you understand, as the connector, but like in a different way. I even have a real estate client. She's open to it, like people have to be open to it, I don't just jam it down everybody's throat. She'll ask me for a channel message and she'll get a channel message from me because she understands the guidance, because she's seen it. I gave her one once because it just felt so called to give it to her. I felt that she was fragmented and she needed something to ground her. And then so we connect in that way. It's a part of me, so my businesses are an extension of me.

Daniela SM: 35:06

And the staff that you work with, then you are always kind of giving those kind of advice.

Pamela Downes: 35:11

I think that they're used to me. One of my employees, shweta. She's very into the universe and spirituality and stuff like that. The rest of my staff not really, but they're into me and they know who I am and you know we all love each other. I have a very strong culture there. It's a beautiful group of women and everyone's on their path. The universe brought each one of them to me and aligned them all. So they've all. They're all there with purpose. They've all been attracted and brought to us with purpose.

Daniela SM: 35:40

Wonderful and so so you have the marketing business, you have the portal. Anything else you have, oh, I have so many things, I'm not even done.

Pamela Downes: 35:51

Yes, so we have a podcast that I that I do as part of my community in the beginning, but then I realized everyone needed to know about it and so it's kind of like what you do you inspire others with a story. I do the same thing, but what I want to talk about specifically is their spiritual awakening journey. So it's called Live the Call. It's basically the story of hearing your spirit's call, listening to it and then living it. So we're telling the story of what that looks like so that people can be inspired. So if someone's hearing like this little whisper, to do and be and practice and immerse themselves more in spiritualism, to investigate what that is, to discover it.

Pamela Downes: 36:34

Oftentimes when you go through a spiritual awakening journey, so many different things change. Friends change your interests, change, food change, everything changes the big things happen. At the end, your work usually changes too, because you want to do something that's more on purpose, and that's what I do. I highlight those sorts of people. And then I actually just launched a new TV show on a brand new spiritual TV network called the Ethereal Network. It's etherealtvnet and I have a half hour show weekly called Divine Wisdom. So what I do is tap into the wisdom of the great council of light. They provide a message and we break it down and we teach. We also do a meditation called connecting our energies and I also take questions and subjects, topics from audience members and we answer the questions or we discuss something that they want to know about, and I know that that's going to evolve into being more interactive. So I'm really excited it's just launched.

Daniela SM: 37:34

You are a busy person? Yes, I am, and so how do you get the TV show the universe?

Pamela Downes: 37:41

Okay, yes, the universe. Well, I've always known you know, since that moment I told you to support humankind. I've always known that this mission that I have is huge and it's big and it's impactful on the planet. The universe knows that, and my guides have told me I've seen it so many times. I need a larger platform to be heard on. So they presented this opportunity to me. I had to say yes. I had to say yes. You say I'm a busy person. Yes, I am. But when this TV thing comes, I have to say yes, daniela, because it's important to the master plan. Just like I said, I didn't know where I was going. This last 10 years. I kept saying yes, what is coming? The next 10, daniela, what is coming? I'm saying yes. So if anybody's taking anything away from this, if that is it, say yes.

Daniela SM: 38:30

Don't let the fear hold you back and so all the wonderful things that are happening already. Are you still asking the universe for things or are you now just letting whatever happens happens?

Pamela Downes: 38:42

Well, I put my intentions out there. Most definitely, I think it's very important to be clear, because the guides talk about. Manifestation is having the clear intention, the clarity of what you want to be able to cast it out, to be able to receive it. So, yeah, right now. I've asked for things all the time because that's our right, that's how the universal laws work, and nothing is withheld from you. Everything is available to you. You just have to feel in receivership and worthy of it, and we're human. Sometimes we don't, and then we learn. It's a learning experience.

Daniela SM: 39:15

Have you changed the way you ask, or is it the same as at the beginning?

Pamela Downes: 39:19

I think I've changed because my knowings are different, the way I live is different, but the spirit calling is just handled and held by this huge, huge group of beings that want this to be. I've been told that I'm going to come full circle to fruition with the work that I've tried so many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many lifetimes. That is going to happen in this lifetime and going to be able to reach the masses in the way that I've always wanted to, to be able to spread the word. And, for instance, I live in Maryland right now. Last year I lived in New Jersey.

Pamela Downes: 39:56

I created space about a year and a half prior to that, because I knew that I would meet my beloved. No one could tell me that I wouldn't. No one could tell me that it doesn't happen for everyone, pamela. Well, it was going to happen for me because I said I wanted it. I said what I wanted, I knew all the things I wanted and some things I didn't even know I wanted are in this person. But I believed and I sat and I just know, I know it and I went to Florida one weekend to visit family and he went to Florida one weekend to visit friends and we met and we lived two and a half hours away from each other, but we made it happen.

Pamela Downes: 40:31

We had to say yes to all the difficulty that was there. There's a knowing, there's like a deep knowing within me that this is my future and I will connect to these people and they will receive and I will teach. Before I moved here, the space that you see me sitting in, I kept having visions of me in front of a computer screen, talking, talking, talking, talking to many, many, many, many people. And that's what I do and that's what I'll continue to do.

Daniela SM: 40:55

Wow. What about your kids? How did they react towards this new mom that was happening.

Pamela Downes: 41:04

They have evolved with me. In the beginning, I was dabbling in different modalities and I was in Reiki, and I was in yoga, and I was in meditation and I was doing different things and then suddenly there's like salt lamps in my house and Buddhas, and you know, things started changing. I'm I'm always like just an authentic person and a creative at heart, and so I've always been different. My language changed and my work changed, and my kids have matured with me, because they're now 21 and and soon to be 19. So they've, they've come to grow and know who I am. And now, now, now I'm seeing it like full circle turn to me where they're texting me something that's more about what I believe, and I'm seeing that shift and it's really fascinating. It's very cool.

Daniela SM: 41:50

Yeah, that's true, because you know, when we're young, young most of the time we're busy with, with I don't know, know life more than actually being intrinsic in ourself, right, and so I.

Daniela SM: 42:01

I know, for example, my kids, especially the oldest one. He has some power because I experienced that when he was little, but he has chosen more. He's, you know, the father vision of science only and nothing else exists. And so when I mentioned, you do have the power, don't let forget about it. He always dismiss it, you know. So eventually, maybe he will, he will get it.

Pamela Downes: 42:25

He will. He will If he's open to it for sure, I love it.

Daniela SM: 42:30

So wonderful. So, pamela, is there anything else that I can do to serve you today?

Pamela Downes: 42:35

I would just love to tell people that if they're interested in tapping into their guides and having a reading that they can, that's something that's accessible to them and it could actually change their life in an amazing way. I just posted a testimonial video of this woman, madeline, a young woman, and she said it's like the message that I get, it's like the guides are in my thoughts, the things that I'm thinking inside of my head, that I'm wondering, that I want to know about that guidance is accessible to them. So if anybody's interested in that, they're able to work with me. And then also they can check out our community. So they can work with me at spirit-callingcom slash workwithpamela and then the portal is spirit-callingcom. And then please, by all means, go check out my new show on etherealtvnet it's called Divine Wisdom, it'll be amazing and my podcast Live, the Call. It's on the Spirit Calling YouTube channel.

Daniela SM: 43:36

Yeah, it's wonderful. I want everybody to follow you also on social media. For the TV show, do we have to have a TV or can we watch it on YouTube?

Pamela Downes: 43:51

Yeah, you can stream it online and then soon it'll be on Roku and Amazon Fire and all of those streaming platforms. So it's in beta first phase launch right now. So you can go to etherealtvnet and check it out there.

Daniela SM: 43:58

Okay, perfect, perfect. So thank you so much. It's a beautiful story. I really appreciate it.

Pamela Downes: 44:04

You're welcome. You're a beautiful person too. I appreciate the time and the space. Thank you, pamela, you're welcome.

Daniela SM: 44:10

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