2026 EP 1 CoQ10 Made Simple

Maria Maroney, MS, CNS is an Integrative Nutritionist with decades of Natural Products industry experience across both retail and practitioner channels including work and study at the Institute of Functional Medicine. Maria holds a Masters Degree in Clinical Nutrition & Integrative Health and is a Certified Nutrition Special registered with the American Nutrition Association. 

While she maintains a "food-first" approach, she's keenly aware of the lack of nutrients in foods grown today and firmly believes in the positive impact the right supplements can have on human health. 

Maria is a skilled and passionate educator committed to evidence-based nutrition, cutting through all the misinformation and delivering content that inspires others to live healthier lives. 

In this episode of Nutrition Nutz, Maria and Dr. Phil Pappas will be talking CoQ10 from it's various forms to it's overall importance to one's health. We cover

-CoQ10-Ubiguinone and generating ATP effects and benefits to our heart

-What is ATP? Energy

-Ubiquinol form for CoEnzyme Q10 and it's role as a powerful antioxidant

-Also discussed is Natural Factors and their use of ISURA for third party testing

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Transcript

Welcome And Sponsor Message

SPEAKER_03 0:01

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the test where we explore the latest information on nutritional science, wellness trends, and information on cutting out supplements. This is where you will hear experts and clinical nurses, healthcare practitioners, researchers, and supplement industry experts discussing today's most important healthcare issues. I'm your host, Dr. Phil Papist, I'm a certified clinical nutritionist, cognitive researcher, and psychologist. We would like to thank our sponsor, Holly Hill Health Foods and HollyHillvitamins.com, the place for great collection, service, and great pricing. Use coupon code NUT that's N U T Z for 15% off. And remember, restrictions may apply. Today we've got a great show for you, and you don't want to miss this one because we're gonna learn a lot from uh a great professional that uh well Steve and I put this uh we started trying to put this show together maybe three months ago, and uh we finally got it today. So with uh I don't want to waste any more time, so let's uh uh start by uh introducing our guest, uh Maria Moroni. And uh Steve is an integrated Christianist, and she's been in the field for decades, and she knows the retail side of the business, and she knows the practitioner professional side of the business because it's been doctors offices. She knows what's going on. Um, integrated health and is a certified nutrition specialist, and it's registered with the American Nutrition Association. Uh he um is a believer in food first, which most I think most nutritionists are, but she also pays a lot of attention to the uh nutraceutical side of the business. She believes in the positive effect of the right supplements on human health. Um she's a skilled um trainer, educator. Uh and without any further ado, I want to inter bring her in and and Maria, go ahead, tell us uh what I missed in your introduction.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

Well, thank you so much for having me today. I think the only thing you missed was that I'm the national educator for natural factors, which is a brand that I truly trust and believe in. You know. So uh, but but yeah, thanks for that beautiful introduction.

What CoQ10 Is And Why Declines

SPEAKER_03 3:05

Sure. And you know what? I was going to ask you on uh right now, you know, your position with natural factors, but you beat me to the the question. So and that's great. Um we have quite a few educators on and uh you know natural factors is a huge uh professional uh nutraceutical company in its business. So uh I would say let's all pay attention because I'm sure you're gonna give us some great information. But you and I spoke about this show, and one thing that uh both of us I think were interested in was understanding. And we and of course lots of people use the product, but we need to understand, or we're hoping to understand, CoQ10 and why it's such an important supplement for a lot of people. So um I'm gonna let you kind of introduce the subject.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Sure, sure. Um, it is, it's a fascinating subject. It's it's been on the shelves for a long time now. Um, and I think we mostly know it for heart health, right?

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

I think it was late, sometime in the late 1950s that it was discovered. So what is it? It's a it's a vitamin-like compound, and it it every cell in the body needs it in order to make energy. So the interesting thing about CoQ10 is that it peaks in our 20s and then decreases from that point onward. So um it's really important to keep our batteries fully charged throughout life, and so that's why coq10 has become so popular. Now, um, when it first made it to the marketplace, we just had that ubiquinone form. We called it coQ10 or coenzyme Q10, right? And that was oh gosh, I can't remember what year that was, but that's gotta be a good twenty-five years ago already.

SPEAKER_03 5:01

I think so, yes.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Yeah, and I think I think it was Dr. Michael Murray that that kind of um did the initial research there for for the nutraceutical industry, and he really became a big proponent of that.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

Yes, and then uh Dr.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

Sinatra up in Canada, um, he became a real proponent of CoQ10 for heart health. So it's been on the shelves for years and years and years, and it suddenly started to get a whole lot more attention. I I think you'll agree.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

I absolutely absolutely agree, yes. Uh I also um I was under the impression that CoQ10, or at least the the ubiquin ubiquinol, um was uh kind of uh discovered in um possibly liver.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

Oh that's a good question.

SPEAKER_03 5:49

That might be where it was, but it doesn't matter. I think you're right.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

I think you're right about that.

SPEAKER_03 5:53

But it had to be synthesized because we wouldn't have enough liver to go around. So um uh you know, the guys in the lab did a beautiful job coming up with CoQ10, and it's become a huge product with lots and lots of studies. How many studies do you think are out there on CoQ10 and maybe heart disease?

Ubiquinone Versus Ubiquinol Roles

SPEAKER_00 6:13

Oh gosh, I wouldn't even want to hazard a guess at that because it's been in the in the in the in circulation for so many years. But here's the really interesting thing. So it came on it, so with CoQ10, it's the name of the molecule, right? Coenzyme Q10 is the name of the molecule. But molecules, and this is this might be a little sciencey, but we're gonna we're gonna jump in with it. Why not? We're we're gonna go all in, right?

SPEAKER_03 6:36

It's I think our audience appreciates that. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Right. There's two forms. So we have the ubiquinone form, which is the oxidized form, and then we have the ubiquinol form, which is the reduced form, right? So what happened was coQ10 came out in its oxidized form, and I guess they decided that ubiquinone was too strange of a word. So we're just gonna call it by its main um molecule name of CoQ10. And so that became the thing that was available for many years, CoQ10.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Well now, years later, the ubiquinol form, which is the reduced form, uh, came along. And so uh they called it ubiquinol, but ubiquinol is actually coQ10 as well. So it's clear as mud for the average consumer, right? But they're two different forms of the same molecule. So one is the oxidized form, the other is reduced form. And so what does that actually mean? It means um it's a chemical reaction that happens within within cells. It's called reduction and oxidation or a redox molecule, right? And these that means that what's happening is within the body, um, the coQ10 molecule is switching over from ubiquinome to ubiquinol and back and forth again, depending on what the body needs in the different areas where it is in the body, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 7:58

Okay. And uh the two forms aren't necessarily one better than the other, are they?

SPEAKER_00 8:06

Well, they are not because they do different things in the body. So the the the coQ10 that we know and love, the ubiquinone, or the oxidized form, is mostly responsible for generating something called ATP or adenosine triphosphate, and that is what? Energy, right?

SPEAKER_02 8:25

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

And the body can't make energy without coQ10. And this um this uh coQ10, this ubiquinone, has an affinity for the cells in our hearts, also our brains, but the hearts get all the attention. And that's why we always think about it for heart health.

SPEAKER_03 8:43

Yes, exactly. And um So what where do we go with ubiquinol?

SPEAKER_00 8:49

So the difference with ubiquinol, so I guess uh explaining what that does is it's got a little bit of a different function. The ubiquinol form, or the reduced form, which is the less stable form, is um acts as a powerful antioxidant in the body. So the ubiquinol makes energy, it makes ATP, the ubiquinol is an antioxidant.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

And they both do a little bit of each, but they do have that difference. One is specific to the one and the the other is specific one is specific to energy, excuse me, and one is specific to other things.

Redox Switching And Free Radical Load

SPEAKER_00 9:28

Correct. Okay But but here's the thing. So um the regardless of what form, and I maybe we're jumping ahead a little bit, but regardless of what form you take, if you if you swallow a coenzyme Q10 supplement, whether it's ubiquinone or ubiquinol, in the stomach, which is an acidic environment, it's gonna convert to the ubiquinon form. It's gonna be what we know as co-Q10. Um because of the redox reaction. It goes back and forth and back and forth. Now, once it's um that's oxidized, right?

unknown 10:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

Um and then then when it goes through the digestive system, right now it's gonna get absorbed into the lymph and into the bloodstream. That's when it gets turned into its ubiquinol form. And in the bloodstream, that's where it's functioning as this powerful antioxidant. Now down the line, as it starts to, you know, bump up into the uh again cells and tissues and get absorbed into the cells and the tissues, it switches back to its ubiquinome form. So it can help the cells make ATP or energy.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

Dare I bring up the term free radicals?

SPEAKER_00 10:38

Sure. Absolutely. That's exactly what's happening. So in the bloodstream, um, we have all these, well, different free radicals forming. I mean, and actually, let me just say that in the process of the body making energy, ATP energy, we are um we are we're making in the mitochondria, but every single one of those cells, we're making ATP energy, right? We have something like 37 trillion cells in our body at any given time. Each of those cells has thousands of mitochondria assembly lines that are making energy. Um, some hardworking cells like the heart, they can have as many as a hundred thousand mitochondria in a single cell. Um, and so um inside those cells um is something called cellular respiration, right? And so what is that? That's the that's the process of making that energy inside those mitochondria. So in the process of cellular respiration, and that's that's you know, our body's making every second it's making those 37 trillion cells are working very hard to make energy, there's a little byproduct that's produced in the making of that ATT energy. So you can think about it like a car driving, right? When you when you put gas in the car, the car can drive and it gets us like but there's an exhaust that's produced, right? Same inside our cells. Our cells are creating energy, and there's a little exhaust that's that's released. That exhaust is what you just said, free radicals. And so the body actually can handle it, also makes um uh antioxidants, exogenous antioxidants, antioxidants within the body that can quelch that that free rati those free radicals that are made, right? Neutralize them so that they don't do any damage in the body.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

But we can't we can't adjust for our bodies can't handle all of the other um toxins that we're getting hit with all day long. We get overwhelmed with them, right?

SPEAKER_03 12:46

It's an excess, right? Excess of what we can deal with on a cellular level, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Exactly. And that's where a supplemental um coC10 or other antioxidants come into play. That's why antioxidants are so important for our health. People think maybe, oh, I take a little bit of vitamin C every day, that'll do it. Nope. We need a lot more help in today's environment with all the pollutants and the plastics and the, I mean, you know, fill in the blank of of all the toxins that we we uh deal with every single day.

SPEAKER_03 13:20

And I don't think people understand that every time we inhale, we're inhaling a lot of different things. For instance, uh here on the East Coast, uh, we're inhaling the um pollutants from coal-fired uh electrical plants. And they tend to be high and well have mercury in it and uh and other other things that we have to worry about. So yes, we're being bombarded. You can't avoid it. If you inhale, you can't avoid it. Uh yeah, we can cleep clean up our homes, we can clean up our environments, but it's in the air. So we n we need things to deal with these uh oxygen. It's in the air, yes, these oxygen.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

It's in our food, it's in our water supply, it's everywhere. So to to expect that we can rely on the antioxidants that our bodies make, the cookie tin that our bodies just make uh naturally to handle all of that is is um short-sighted, shall I say? Well let's we need a lot we need help.

Athletes And Mitochondrial Energy Support

SPEAKER_03 14:28

So let's um let's look at who like let's say we have an athlete and and and they're you know, semi-professional or a high school athlete that's doing cross country. Um why would CoQ10 and which one which coQ10 would be better for that athlete possibly if you can s if we can say that? Uh why does he need it or she need it? And uh which one maybe would be more appropriate?

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Well, first let's talk about why they need it. So that has to do with that CoQ10 ubiquinone form, right? That supports ATP production. So most athletes that are looking to get more out of their workouts, right? So a lot of them are using pre-workouts, and pre pre-workouts usually are caffeinated, right? That's what gives them that boost, right? That energy boost. But caffeine, you know, it works by stimulating the central nervous system. And that's usually a short-term spike and it's usually followed by a crash. And it rarely do these pre-workouts offer any support for recovery, right?

SPEAKER_02 15:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

So with CoQ10, the energy source is the mitochondria of the cell where ATP or energy is being created. So if you're supporting your mitochondria, this will produce a more lasting energy all day long. So that's that's like the crux of it. So why are they using it? They need more of that currency, right? That that raw energy for their muscles because they need um they need this for bigger workouts. Yes. So, and and here's what's happening. So um, our metabolic rate gets enhanced when we're exercising. There's a rise in body temperature, and the pH within the cells decreases. So that can lead to higher than usual levels of oxidative stress, right? More free radicals than normal because exercising muscles produce larger amounts of free radicals than muscles that are at rest. So now we go to the antioxidant side. Antioxidants neutralize those free radicals, right? So which form is better? It doesn't really much matter because the body is going to switch it back and forth because of those redox reactions.

Heart Patients Aging Digestion Considerations

SPEAKER_03 16:44

Okay. So makes sense? Yes. But now we talked about an athlete. And what if you have someone who has had maybe uh health problems, particularly cardiac problems, and they don't walk, you know, they maybe they walk around their house, but it's a different type of person, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 17:04

Right, the opposite end of the spectrum.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

But they still need something like a CoQ10.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Why why do they need it? Well, because again, if they're just living in an in a natural, in a normal world, right, they're still being um bombarded by free radicals that we just talked about in the food we eat, in the air that we breathe, in the water that we drink, um, in the blue light that we're getting from our our screens, right? They need all of um that uh antioxidant support uh for just living in a in a modern world, right? And so again, with a with an athlete who's taking the coC10, the body might find that it needs more of it um to make ATP energy, right? Whereas somebody who's not um necessarily an athlete, maybe somebody who is uh, you know, uh less active and maybe older and uh maybe doesn't have great digestion, right? That that kind of that person is still needs it, but they're gonna need more of the antioxidant support. Um so which which one should you take is a really tough question because again, um which is the which is the uh which form is the body gonna utilize it in, right? So um I guess it's it's important because it's important to know that it's all gonna get turned into or predominantly get turned into the ubiquinone form in the stomach when you swallow it. So the ubiquinone form, the coQ10, is a more stable form and it's um it's usually a little more affordable and it's a great place to start. Now, if you're finding that you're still not getting benefit from it, maybe you're somebody that has trouble with digestion, you and and you might then want the ubiquinol form. But I also think if folks have already been taking the ubiquinol form and it's working for them, there's no reason to switch, you know? The body knows what it needs and and it's gonna turn it into what it needs. So whatever it it's really a um with most supplements, it's trial and error to find the form that you best respond to.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

Yes, but you could always just start with ubiquinol or the other one, ubiquinone and ubiquinome cookies. You're probably gonna do the job. So uh I ask my my um patients or my clients uh and customers if I'm out on the floor with people. And uh and I am on a daily basis, so I try to stay up, you know, with their questions and and their issues. So you can ask some questions, you know, what what brings you in for for it? Have you had a heart attack? Um and then there's the the big category that that we haven't touched on. Are you on a statin drug? And I'm sure you can elaborate on that.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Well, yes, the statins um deplete not only statins, but also some antidepressants, which I'm not sure everybody knows. Most people know that statin drugs uh can deplete levels of coQ10 in the body. And I mentioned before, we peak at the production in our 20s. So as we age, we're getting less and less of the COC10. And I will say, um absolutely there is not enough that the body makes naturally to um support if you're on a statin drug to to replenish what the statin drug is is uh is uh using. Um so you definitely, if you're on a statin drug, without a doubt, you should be on a coQ10 uh supplement to replenish those levels in your body.

SPEAKER_03 20:49

That is so important, and I heard it so many times uh where people are having some muscle pain. That's always a bad, bad uh yeah. And uh we start them on CoQ10, and um very often the muscle pain uh subsides and they do rather well. So I had, you know, doc the doctor sent me in for CoQ ten because I'm on a statin. Absolutely. Uh he did the right thing. So we we make sure.

Statins Antidepressants And Brand Absorption

SPEAKER_00 21:23

And that's the wonderful thing that the doctors are on board with CoQ10. Um so they they actually are aware of it. They're not aware of all the supplements that we we feel in the health food um store business are helpful, but they certainly do know CoQ10, which is wonderful. So they will send send their um their patients to health food stores to purchase that. Actually, that brings me to a really um uh something that I wanted to actually mention. Um, why brands matter. Because when a doctor's making a recommendation, you know, doctors um are learning about this stuff, which is great. Um But they they don't really know brands uh in the natural uh food space like we do. And so here's the thing about CoQ10 CoQ10 can crystallize if it's not protected. And that's why your brand matters. So once those crystals form, CoQ10 can't be absorbed anymore. So that great buy that you might have gotten online from some brand that you never heard of, or that, you know, inexpensive grocery store brand that you may have picked up at a low price may or may not be able to be absorbed. So it's like gambling, right? So as a consumer, you really should know which brands that you should trust. So um I'm gonna do a plug for natural factors right now. Brands like natural factors direct source are ingredients. So what does that mean? It means that regardless of the country of origin or the reputation, so sometimes a lot of people will get freaked out if you mention that an ingredient comes from, I don't know, China, right? But no matter who we yeah, who we buy from, the suppliers that we do business with are more likely to have full supply chain transparency and rigorous quality control and ethical sourcing and reliability when it comes to the delivery of ingredients because natural factors insists on that. Natural Factors is a Canadian company. We're we're um we're like the number one two brand up in Canada. Now here in the US, I think we're we're number five or six. And and a lot of people haven't heard of us because you only find us in health food stores. We don't go into mass market, we stay in our in our lane.

SPEAKER_03 23:41

Um however, we've got three gondolas of backup for you, as well as what's on the shelf from natural factors. And uh I mean you have so many products right now. The corcetans are flying out of the store for allergies, and it's mostly yours.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Oh, that's wonderful to hear. Yes. Well, you know what is, but it's a brand you can trust. So here's here's why. Here's why being Canadian, a Canadian company is is so makes a difference. Um in the US, uh supplements are regulated as food. Uh so there's a certain um set of standards for that. And um in Canada, uh oh uh uh supplements are regulated as over-the-counter medications. So think about what it takes for a drug to get on the shelf in the US, the rigor that it has to go through, right? You you can't just decide that you want to formulate something and then put it online and sell it as a OTC, right? And that's the rigor it goes through up in Canada in order to get on shelf. So we have much higher standards for supplements in in Canada than there are in the US.

SPEAKER_03 24:51

Can I back up the can I back up just for a second?

SPEAKER_00 24:56

Sure.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

Um you talked about um the CoQ10 crystallizing. And of course you absorb less of it. I'm a former 20-year pharmacologist. And no drug and no supplement is a hundred well, I don't know about no, but I can't imagine a drug or yeah, I couldn't tell you a supplement or a drug that's a hundred percent absorbed. It always has limits. So if this crystallizes on the shelf at a uh warehouse somewhere, um you absorb even less. So it's so important to have a a fresh um product with integrity.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

So the source is so important. The brand is so important, so much more so than the the great buy that somebody might have gotten online.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

And this i uh i sure, did I say that correctly?

SPEAKER_00 25:56

Yes, you did.

ISURA Testing And Canadian Regulation

SPEAKER_03 25:56

Ishura. Um this is a third-party testing. So tell us more about Ishura because I'm fascinated by it.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Yes, I was too when I started with the brand. Um so Ishura is a third-party entity um that verifies our quality. So they're Canada's only independent testing organization. Third, so they're third party, and um the the Ishura standards meet and exceed the most stringent qualities in the world. They um they bypass even Australia's therapeutic goods administration requirements, and those are the highest requirements in the world. So ISURA tests for over 800 different potential contaminants, which, you know, maybe folks that are listening don't understand the the impact of that, but they're testing for over 700 pesticides alone, including glyphosate and roundup. Um so, or I should say including glyphosate, which is Roundup. They don't test for Roundup.

SPEAKER_03 26:59

Okay. So I've spent time in a lab, and I know that one lab's testing is not the same as another lab's testing. In in a sense, they're doing a good job. I'm not saying they aren't, but they they they have a broader spectrum of tests in some labs than they do in other labs. And you need to know that.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

Yep. And the numbers have been increasing. So I I you know, when I first came on board, I've been with natural factors for two years now. And when I first came on board, um, I was told that uh some of the folks that have been around a long, long time said that when they first started testing, I sure have first started testing, that number was 400 contaminants, and then it became 600 contaminants, and now it's eight hundred. They're constantly looking. So they're they're testing for radiation, um, which is in our our, you know, and and hormones, which is in our water supply. They're testing for, you know, um uh m microbiologicals. They're testing for um trying to think off the top of my head, TMOs, of course.

SPEAKER_03 28:03

All the first line things um that would affect someone putting something in their mouth every day.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Heavy metal. Heavy metals is such an important one. Um, so that's the thing. You know, we we do a full audit of all the suppliers that we use. Um once the raw materials are brought in, um we do a full material evaluation. So we're testing for identity, for potency of active, we're testing for contaminants and stability. That's a natural factor. We do that testing internally, and then when those raw materials come in, before it ever goes into a single machine to become a supplement, we send out the raw materials for that is your testing so that once we get the approval, it comes out of quarantine and that's when we go to work making it a supplement. But here's the cool part we test four times throughout the process of creating a supplement, including final product testing, to make sure that what we say is on the label is actually in the tablet or capsule or soft gel. It's very important.

SPEAKER_03 29:13

And it's an extra cost that natural factors seems to be uh pretty eager to include in their system. And they seem to go all out and and almost, you know, they took the big leap here, and they are making sure that that product that we're selling a customer is what it says it is. And that to me is very important.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

I I agree a hundred percent. It's one of the reasons why I was detracted to come to work with the folks at at Natural Factors because they their standards and their integrity um are just uh un unmatched, in my opinion. It's a family-owned company, and and the um the company will never be sold to one of these big multinational corporations. We are always, it's actually it's in, there are family members in place, ready to take over. Uh and and the company will always be a family-owned company and always focused on a natural food retailer and the natural food customer more importantly.

SPEAKER_03 30:16

I think when um I first started doing um this job that I do full time back in nineteen ninety-nine, I guess, doing nutritional consults, um working with product. Um I do a lot of speaking in the community. Um I was introduced to natural factors right away. Because you had such a uh status in stores. And I would go into stores, you know, and visit just to say I was learning. And there was that big shelf of natural factor products. And I always thought to myself, wow, this is an elite company. And uh as the years went by, uh you know, the company proved that that that's exactly what they are. Really a top-notch company. And I'm actually surprised to hear that uh they're fifth in sales, as I think you said in the United States, um, maybe at our location. Um they may be in the top three.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Well, that's wonderful to hear. I think because we're not in math markets, and that's uh that's part of it, you know. Um we've been around since the 1950s, believe it or not. Our our owner's name is Roland Gaylor, his dad started the company. And so think about that 1950s, we're at 2026. That's a long time to be in uh and and to be so focused. I've I've just been so impressed with him as a visionary. So I think uh his heart comes through. He cares about every single person that purchases a pro a natural factors product. It's very important to him. So um that's that's who I want to support. That's who I want to buy from.

SPEAKER_03 32:05

Well, I think the company did their homework. Um they've been introducing slowly products for different situations, different um allergies, for instance, are right are are huge right now. And I mentioned we were selling corresidential. But coqui ten we sell, of course, every day. And um you've got all the basic ones uh also. Uh you have melatonins, you have so many things, so many categories. Uh and you couldn't do that unless you started years ago. Right. You can't just bring out product after product like that. It isn't that really isn't sustainable. So that's why I have a very good feeling about natural factors. So um Maria, I think we've really covered a lot of ground. What else would you like to say?

SPEAKER_00 32:59

Hmm, let's see. I think that, you know, the key takeaways are really that not just folks that are on statin drugs or antidepressants. Um, those aren't the only people or people who are struggling with, you know, supporting a healthy heart. Those are not the only people that need CoQ10. You know, we're finding that it's becoming more important for athletes, as we spoke about. You know, it that CoQ10 is found in every cell and it's it's responsible for maintaining cellular energy. It it's gonna power us throughout our lifetimes, especially as levels decline. So I really think that um if you're not already taking COQ10, that you should really be thinking about adding it to your daily regimen uh as something that will just help support you in so many different uh areas of the body. And uh I think that's that's the message I would like to leave everyone with.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

I think this is great. I think um CoQ10 is really underestimated. I always think um uh I spent five years running a psychiatric practice uh as a manager and lead therapist. And it's interesting how someone that may have depression may also have issues uh with energy and um not you know functioning the way they should. And when they get a good balanced uh diet, they get sunlight and they get some exercise and some fresh air, maybe add a coq ten for a little energy pickup and suddenly they're having um maybe they're taking less medication and they're having what I would say a better quality of life. And I think that would go with a heart patient too, if you're sitting in a chair and you can't move because you don't have enough energy. And if you can take a CoQ ten and get a little more energy, isn't that an improvement in quality of life?

How Long CoQ10 Takes To Work

SPEAKER_00 34:57

Absolutely. And you know, it that that brings up a point I want to just mention about timing. Um, you know, I think with pharmaceutical drugs, we're used to um being prescribed something and then within a few days, maybe a week, having some kind of results from that. And and so the it's different with supplements. So pharmaceuticals are usually blocking something, right? Whereas um supplements are food, right? And so it's gonna take the body a little bit longer. So the the mitochondria inside of a cell, those little energy sensors, live to be about a hundred days old, right? So every 100 days they're re recycled. There is a new mitochondria in its place. So think about three three uh a hundred days is about three solid months. So you're not gonna take a supplement for a cochi 10 supplement for a week and expect to have the energy from it. You're gonna need to take it and you're gonna probably start to see a little bit of a pickup within about three weeks, maybe four weeks. But by the end of three months, all of those older mitochondria have been replaced with by ones with better energy centers, right? And so it's it could be a one to three months. That's what I would give people, I would ask people to, you know, kind of pay attention uh at where they are today when they started, and then where they are at month one, month two, and month three, and see where the difference is that way.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

Uh the uh drug companies talk about compliance. If you don't take the product correctly, you're not gonna get a result. And I think that carries over to a whole lot of things. If you d if you don't eat well all the time, you're not gonna get good results. If you don't take your supplements a long enough time for them to do what they need, what they're going to do for you, you don't see the result. And I think a lot of people kind of give up because they expect an instant response. And instant response isn't always the best thing.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

Right. And it's not always um some supplements you will, you know. Um I'm trying to think of something off the top of my head. Actually, quorsetin, quorsetin is a good thing. Quorsetin, yes, good one. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna get the benefit within a couple of days um from quarsetin. But but they're not pharmaceuticals, they're food. They're they're and they're making changes in the body. And and here's the other piece is that the body can't store energy, right? It has to be made constantly. So, um, you know, food just food for thought.

SPEAKER_03 37:30

All right, excellent. Maria Moroni. Did I say your name right? I just did.

SPEAKER_02 37:35

You did.

SPEAKER_03 37:35

You absolutely did. And um, I just want to say that we we uh we appreciate everything you said today. You are really a great guest. I would love to have you back sometime to talk about maybe another product.

SPEAKER_00 37:49

That would be wonderful. I'll look forward to that.

SPEAKER_03 37:52

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