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Ranking Tyrese And Tank Tracks In A Head To Head Bracket

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We rank Tyrese vs Tank in a Versuz-style bracket and let the songs do the talking, even when the votes get split and the picks get personal. We also dig into Tyrese’s comments about the matchup, then zoom out to the bigger question of legacy hits versus catalog depth. 

• Tyrese’s interview quotes about touring money and why he doubts the matchup 
• Whether different vocal styles can still make a great Versuz pairing 
• Fast and Furious sidetrack and why some of us still have not caught up 
• Song bracket face-offs including “Stay,” “Sweet Lady,” “Please Don’t Go,” “Maybe I Deserve,” “Slow,” and “When We” 
• How nostalgia, lyrics, and beat drops change what “wins” 
• Final matchup debate and the tiebreaker that decides the champion 
• Bigger catalog talk: legendary moments vs long run and songwriting credits 
• Why Tank’s writing and background work shifts the conversation 

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SPEAKER_06

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What's going on, man? Glad to be back. Glad to have a little uh spotlight for introduction.

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SPEAKER_01

Uh yeah, hey, I ain't did a sports podcast in a minute, and I got opinions about sports, and I don't get to say them enough. I'm about to do my own or something.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, cool. We gotta get Will be Holly out. We're gonna get Will on the uh the sports joint. Uh then we got these beautiful women with me. One is my sister that yells at yells at me all the time. Then one is my cousin who yells at me while we on the podcast, but any other time is cool. But anyway, from the podcast, hold please I sell what I said. What's up, Ryan Ashley?

SPEAKER_03

Hey there, what's going on?

SPEAKER_06

So y'all took the pressure out of y'all. You did, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_06

Did it for y'all, but at the end, y'all need to be ready.

SPEAKER_03

I got it, I got it.

Tyrese Sparks Debate With Big Claims

SPEAKER_06

But yeah, uh, Turkey Tyrese is doing the verses, is actually by the time y'all hear this, that versus will either been done or happen tonight because I plan on releasing this day of the verses. So, but uh, real quick before we get into the songs, I want to tell y'all some of what Tyrese said in the interview, and I want to know y'all's thoughts. Um, he said that first, what I get in 10 shows, it takes a tank to get to do in 30. Absolutely. Yeah, tank has to do 30 shows to equal my tank, is is what Tyree said. And then he also said that he don't feel like him and Tank is a good versus. He said he's not excited about doing it because him and tank's not a good versus. He said, I sing more like a Luther Vandros, a Cisco, or a KC from uh KC and Jojo. I'm more barrel tone, I got the more raspy voice compared to Tank, who got these high-pitched, high no, he goes on all these long runs and all that, all this hooping and hollering. Wow.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I feel like let's put the box and gloves on then. I mean they in a group, you know what I'm saying? Um yeah, they are they are, but I feel like it's a decent. I mean, you ain't asking me my opinion yet, but I think yeah, I mean, I think it's a pretty good versus.

SPEAKER_06

I was gonna ask you what you think.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think it's a good, me personally, I think it's a good versus. Yes, their voices are different, but they're single male vocalists. Like what I mean, they are single male vocalists. I don't, you know.

SPEAKER_02

I got more my question is if Tyrese is not put up against Tank, which personally I think this versus Tyrese is gonna get blown out the water, but that's just my opinion. Uh because Tank's catalog is huge, right? We don't even know half the stuff that he's produced and or wrote, right? Uh so I don't I don't think his voice, I don't think, I think tanks versus Tyrese's voice. I think I would rather hear. I don't know. I don't think I don't think Luther's his his genre, but I'm not a Luther fan either.

SPEAKER_01

That's good established. We have discussed that multiple times.

SPEAKER_03

Facts. Facts.

SPEAKER_01

And every time I hear Luther's bedrock now, I think of you. So there you go. You made a mark on my brain now every time. And I listen to Luther often, so that means I'm thinking about you a lot, girl.

SPEAKER_03

Well, because you can't believe that she just don't like I can't, it blows my mind. I'd be like, What's wrong? What this what's wrong with Luther? But okay, all right, okay, we digress.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know that he back. I still for the life of me don't understand as for as much as your brother mother loves Luther. I don't understand how you jump, but that's neither it's neither her nor there.

SPEAKER_02

Uh is that going against the grain though? I think a lot of people like Luther.

SPEAKER_01

I think a lot of people like Luther. You're cutting the tree, you're cutting the tree the wrong way, you're blowing through the grain. And uh, it's okay though.

SPEAKER_06

I don't think I've ever heard nobody say, besides you, say they don't like Luther.

SPEAKER_02

I said I ain't say have I said I don't like them. I said I ain't a Luther fan.

SPEAKER_03

That's basically the same thing. I mean it's the words, but I think it means the same thing. You get to the root of it, yeah. You don't really like Luther, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It might be different, it's a different pathway, but you still get to the root of you don't like Ufa. But I mean that's it, neither her nor deal. Neither her nor there will. What do you think of Tyrese's comments? Especially the it takes you 30 shows to get what I do at 10.

SPEAKER_01

So, I mean, I feel like that's that probably has some truth to it. Uh Tyrese's is probably demanding a lot, right? Uh but I don't know. So for me, I kind of feel like if I take away all of what takes done, as far as I guess uh like Richasa said, if I take away all of that, the the producing and stuff, and just stuck with the music, I don't know if I can if I don't agree with Tyrese.

SPEAKER_06

I think I think Tyrese, because I'm he I know he talked about this was years ago when he said this. He talked about the difference between him tank because when they was negotiating that contract for the group, Tyrese wanted a bigger piece because simple fact he's been in movies and all of that. He also don't perform as much because he's acting and all of these different things, he don't have as much time. So when he comes out, his bag is bigger because it's more special. I don't know if I I don't know if I won't say that that music catalogs that that much better.

SPEAKER_01

So I wouldn't say I wouldn't say it's like you know, he's running lapsing around.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's why I thought 30 30 and 10 is kind of a comparison. If he has said like 30 and 20, I mean, you know what I'm saying, 20 and 10 or something like that, he said 30.

SPEAKER_02

But you also gotta think Tank don't even have to come out because some of his songs is produced and written, so some of those songs he don't even have to perform, he can sit in the house while so yo Joe Bo is over here blowing, and he's making money. So I'm like you 30, 10. Because Tate don't even have to come, he don't have to make a concert.

Fast And Furious Detour

SPEAKER_06

You know, that's true. Tank Tank got his money, he gives money music music-wise in different ways, as or Tyrese just gives money different ways, whether it'd been modeling or back in the day and now acting, of course. He's in the whole Fast and the Furious franchise, which I have not seen past. I think three. I ain't got that far. I think I stopped watching the two before that.

SPEAKER_01

I I ain't seen them but clip for every one past like two.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I think I seen the bow wow, the bow album, which don't yeah, it's wrong for that now.

SPEAKER_03

Don't count.

SPEAKER_07

I heard the bow wow album was fast.

SPEAKER_03

Fast and the Furious is an amazing series of movies. Uh I'm gonna need y'all to catch up to where we are today. Now, with that being said, I haven't seen maybe the last two, but bro, y'all you see like y'all gotta go back to the beginning. Beginning. I'm gonna need y'all to do better on this podcast. I'm gonna need y'all to do better. Yeah, no, I don't I don't foresee it happening. I just need y'all to do better. Let me tell nobody else that I have to do.

SPEAKER_01

I have to go back to uh two. When I go back and watch it, they probably got they probably got flip phones. Uh I give them credit though. The franchise has made a a nice, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But uh absolutely, absolutely, you know.

SPEAKER_06

We might we some of us might get to it, some of us probably won't. And I think I don't understand what the problem is.

SPEAKER_03

They were good, they are good movies, though. Like what I'm I mean, this ain't what the podcast is about, but what has stopped y'all from watching past two and three? I don't understand.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not much of a movie person.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, okay, okay. I give you that.

SPEAKER_01

So, like for me to watch a movie, it gotta be like a cartoon, you know. Like, I want everything. Y'all cool. Like, I hate I just I hate to feel of uh what's the anxiety? Like when watching movie show movies and and and TV shows. I don't like that feeling, so I kind of like stay away from it and watch stuff I know I think.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, you definitely watching Louver play, are you?

SPEAKER_01

I watch Louver play because I'm cheering for the other nights.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you a Kentucky fan? Yeah, we're Kentucky fan.

SPEAKER_00

That's why Quentin ain't inviting me on the sports uh podcast no more. Because you should be like, nah, you messed up the budget.

SPEAKER_06

Matter of fact, I just was talking about me and you arguing about Louisville, Kentucky on the pie yesterday. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I just was talking about this yesterday. Yeah, no, we're talking. Matter of fact, I can't remember, I don't remember what game it was, but Louisville, Kentucky had just played, Louva had lost, and Will called me. We was at we was at our aunt's house. And I was outside arguing with Will. And I think that's when Shell Shell got the phone. Like, why y'all arguing? Didn't either one of y'all play.

SPEAKER_01

I played his spirit, I was after sweating live root.

SPEAKER_06

And then I'll always be like, Will ain't a real Kentucky fan because he he's still a Texas football fan, so he don't really count.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, Kentucky fan all the way through.

Bracket Begins Early Matchups

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, he just he just root for the basketball team. He don't he still he's a Texas college football fan, so I don't really so anyway, but yeah, no, we're gonna get into it. We're gonna get into the time Reese in the tank, you know what I'm saying? Well, we'll just got an unnecessary shot that wasn't, but I just have to let it slide. He ain't even from here, he's from Texas, so all right. Just had to let it slide in real quick. All right, so the first battle is my uh I Gemini did this depict these songs. I did change one tank song, but for the most part, all of this is uh Gemini Gemini bass. So the first battle is nobody else by Tyrese versus Tank Slow, featuring uh Jay Valentine, which he wrote a lot of those songs that Tasha was referring to for other artists with him and Jay Valentine. So I just want to admit that firstly, I did not know nobody else was you. No, I mean nobody else was Tyrese's debut single. I had heard this. I thought I hadn't heard the song, but then I listened to it. I was like, oh, yeah, I know this song. And also him, the person rapping at the end was Tyrese. I did not know that until I watched the video. I thought it was somebody else. Had no clue it was Tyrese. But first up, Ray, nobody else or slow.

SPEAKER_02

Uh slow. That's I think that's the same song.

SPEAKER_06

That's the same song. Yes, that's the song. Um, Ashley, nobody else or slow, slow. Okay, well, we'll I don't get to vote because there's no Shravana. Shout out to Shravana, for you get to fill the bellow, but there's no voting for me. So I'm just gonna give my opinion. But uh Will, what would you have picked? Well, I'm like you, I don't get to vote either. Uh you don't in this round, you don't. I'm sorry, I'll let you lead off the next one.

SPEAKER_01

I would have uh I would have acted, it would have been a sweep, so they're right. Okay, I have to vote. I ain't getting to vote because I have to.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, cool, cool, cool. So we're gonna lead you off with this one. Uh, is Tyrese stay versus Tank I Deserve. Not to get confused with maybe I deserve. This is the I deserve.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm going with stay. Uh that song is uh iconic to me. That song is gonna go so uh he can play and it's able to shut the shit down. Okay, will is going with stay? Right. What are you going with?

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna go with Will and say stay too.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, stay is going to move on. Actually, if you don't, you know what I'm saying? Stay has already moved on, but what would you have picked?

SPEAKER_03

I deserve. Really? Yeah. Okay, okay, all right.

SPEAKER_06

You said that's not the same as maybe I deserve it's not the same, it's not, it's a different, it's a different, it's on different albums and all that. Yeah. All right. Um, next up. All right, Tyree Shane versus Tanks Wind Week. Right. I feel I feel like I know what Toshman with. Right, what you going with? Right. You uh Win We. I already know that Win Week.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Um you feel like you're gonna sing the song? I mean, don't let it go.

SPEAKER_08

You gotta get that clear.

SPEAKER_06

Don't sing both songs. I can't say all right, uh Will Shame by Tyrese or When We by Tank featuring Ty Dollar Sign and Trey Songs. I should add that, I should add that in.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man. Uh I'm gonna have to go with Tank, man. Uh it's just that yeah, that was another one. But that's that's hard. Like that, like that right there was ridiculously hard. Like, so I don't know what Tyrese is talking about. Maybe, maybe Tyrese is wrong. Let me recant what I said earlier, like a bad politician, and say that you know what I was wrong. And Tyrese just battled is worthy of uh your time.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, when you when I first heard it, I kind of was like, Oh, it's Tyrese. Tyrese Tyrese got the more iconic joints, Tank got the more, he got the more recent because you know Tyrese was busy watching in a movie that nobody would watch by Ashley, you know what I'm saying? So it really feels the type of way about that comment.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, there's a lot of fast and the furious fans out there, and I hope that y'all comment on this podcast just to show cue how many people watch Fast and the Furious. Anyway, okay.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, I just want to point out there's four people out here, and you've only you've only seen past four.

SPEAKER_01

On the Fast A Furious fan. I'm a fast experience fan.

SPEAKER_03

I wish I know Shavana seen them all. I know she has.

SPEAKER_01

I tell you this, I seen I seen the uh the last one. So, you know, it wasn't horrible. I seen the clips on TikTok.

SPEAKER_06

Ain't that the one with uh uh old boy from uh I don't know the chasing dude he uh I I think he was in that last one, actually, but you ain't seen the last two, so you don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I think he was in that last one. Uh Ashley, uh Win We has already moved on, but what would you have picked between Win Wee and Shane? When we okay, so a lot it's a lot of clean sweeps so far. So that one was hard though. That was hard. I think this is gonna be hard. Uh glad y'all get the vote, not me. Tyreese lately versus Tank, maybe I deserve. Does anybody want to volunteer and go first? No, will so damn it.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna push I was gonna pull some slick shit. If I was the last force, I was gonna be like, you know what, instead of me voting quick, why don't you vote since it doesn't call it anyway?

SPEAKER_06

No, nope, don't count. But give y'all some time. If I actually had to pick, I would pick lately. But maybe it's not an easy choice because maybe I deserve it. It's a great song. It's a great song, it's a great song, but so it's lately. And I don't, I don't, I would pick lately, but I've it's not easy. It's not easy.

SPEAKER_01

So that I'm I'ma say I gotta I gotta have to. I got my answer. You ain't gotta give me no more time.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, because I'm not enough.

SPEAKER_01

I'm I'ma say my answer is unique because it it's it's registered for me. I'ma say maybe I deserve lately.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, I knew a time is gonna come out of him when he said my answer's unique. I said I started be like, so we're not doing ties. So we not doing point.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe lately I deserve, I don't know, but yeah, that's hard. That's tough.

SPEAKER_06

So you man, what you gonna do? You gotta pick more.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm I'm gonna go with um I'm gonna go lately.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. All right, Ashley. Maybe I deserve. Okay. Oh Natasha, you are she said, oh, yeah. I was like, this is serious. That was a tough one, Q. That that out of those two songs, is especially those are those are some really good songs from both of them, for real.

SPEAKER_06

I looking at the list, I think this is the tough battle. This is this is like a one C playing one C in the first round. You ain't really supposed to do that. Duke ain't supposed to play Michigan in the first round. They supposed to play Furley Dickinson. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know what I'm saying? They supposed to play CNN, even though CN did almost beat Duke. Yeah, yeah. See? Yeah, this is tough. This is tough. Uh right, sister?

SPEAKER_07

What you gonna let go with you pick glasses to link it outside?

SPEAKER_02

I even outta pick, and I'd have really really wanna pick one. But then I really, really wanna pick another one because as I'm singing them in my head, right?

SPEAKER_01

I'm doing the same thing.

SPEAKER_03

It makes it difficult. This is a hard one. This this this is the hardest one, I think.

SPEAKER_02

Let's go with maybe I deserve. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

What did I what am I doing? Like, which one am I picking? You said maybe I deserve. So is that what you're going with? Yeah, no. It does sound like it.

SPEAKER_01

Nope. She said, maybe I deserve. I don't know. She's not sure if she deserves it or not.

SPEAKER_06

Is that a new sign we got? I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_02

Uh yeah, let's let's final answer. Maybe I deserve.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. Tank is moving on with Maybe I Deserve. Okay. On the other side of the bracket, Tyrese signs of love making versus Tank. Please don't go. Oh Jesus. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I got my answer. Well, just you have to go ahead. I mean, they're both good songs, but if I had to compare, I'm probably singing Please Don't Go more often than I'm singing. These are signs of love making.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Like please don't go could just randomly come out once you know what I mean. And it just because I feel like singing.

SPEAKER_02

Like tomorrow's gonna be a taint, taint.

SPEAKER_03

I do feel like that. I feel like we gotta go back to the yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. Um if I had to pick, I actually disagree. Actually, I would think I would I would sing Science of Love Maker for me. Yeah, but it's because he he also says then I met a Scorpio.

SPEAKER_01

So you so you ain't no limit to where she goes it's something about the Scorpio.

SPEAKER_06

Speaking from speaking from my from my personal perspective, as I am a Scorpio.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I know it ain't my turn to go. It is actually oh I get to go a second, so I get to actually have like an impact. Uh so I'm man, that's that sounds love making, man. Jeez, I I gotta go signs of love making. Now I that that sounds just like you said, the way he broke down all the signs. You know, and I've always liked it when when artists do things like that, tell stories or or like break things down over the period of a song. So yeah, I gotta go signs with love making.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, all right. So it's the you are the deciding factor again.

SPEAKER_02

So what please don't go here here's the comment that I'm gonna make. You know when he hits that, right?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that's the part that's epic.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's the part that's that's right now is for me. Uh I'm saying that's how I feel. So I'm nowhere, please don't go.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, yeah, I get it. There you go. It was hard choice.

SPEAKER_06

There's no bad choice. It was there's no bad choice. So again, I just want to point out when we go to this next section on her, Jim and I picked this, not me. Just wanted to clarify because the the choices is Tyree Sweet Lady versus Aaliyah featuring Tang. Oh no, no, sweet lady.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry.

Final Four And Title Match

SPEAKER_02

I don't like him now. I don't like why don't you go with mama? Now you want him to go with mama.

SPEAKER_07

That's your problem.

SPEAKER_06

Well, mama did this, you know what I'm saying? I didn't my I just just doing what's in front of me.

SPEAKER_04

Sweet light versus come over.

SPEAKER_03

So, first of all, let's just put this out here for the people. Um, can I come over or come over? It's a classic song by Aaliyah. It is you add the ad lives by Tank, and it takes it to another level. However, on this one, on this one, I would go with Sweet Lady too. I would because it's not Tank's. I mean, I guess Tank wrote it. Did he write it? He might have written it. But he wrote it. He wrote it, and I don't mind the remix, but to me it's Aaliyah's song. So I'm going with Sweet Lady.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. Well, we had already said Sweet Lady, so Sweet Lady is moving on. And now Tasha don't have to. I was gonna ask her, what would you have picked? But Sweet Lady is moving on.

SPEAKER_02

Uh since Ashley said what she said, I probably would think about it because when I when I was reviewing the songs, I was like, different songs. I said, I didn't know he was in this song.

SPEAKER_03

I know he was in this song. He's he just remade it with his vocals added to it later.

SPEAKER_06

But yeah, he wrote it though, but he's a writer, he's he wrote the lyrics, and I think it just came out that he was singing the background vocals recently. It was all it was never really like as far as I know, it was never really established back when the song came out. Yeah, that he was the person singing the background vocals, but he was that person. As a matter of fact, he told the story on his podcast where they called him and they was like, Can you just sing this? Sang this for us. Matter of fact, actually, I don't think he wrote it. They just asked him to sing that okay. Now I'm remembering remembering the story. They just asked him because he was in the studio working on something else in a different room. Then they said, Can you just come sing this real quick? And he did, and then that song became iconic. He was just just so happened to be in the studio in the other room. Oh, okay. All right, and he got it got put on. Okay, he got put on by uh sweet lady moves on. Okay, here we go. Tyrese, how you gonna act? It's it's how you go act like that. Uh, and then versus tank fucking with me.

SPEAKER_02

Ray, who you going with? How we gonna act like we don't be you know we be tearing it up.

SPEAKER_01

Oh probably gonna get cancelled.

SPEAKER_06

As long as you got in the back, I think I'm all right. So all right, uh Ashley, who you take? How you gonna act like that? Okay, all right. Uh Will, who would you have picked?

SPEAKER_01

Well, it was the second side. I can I I can't get that I can't get Ray's version of my head. So that's all I'm waiting for.

SPEAKER_06

It was Tyrese. How you gonna? I mean, yeah, Tyrese, how you gonna act like that versus uh Tank fucking with me.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, so uh Ray, can you sing the Tank song for me? Because I'm not familiar with that. No, I cannot. But uh yeah, so I I'm going with uh Tyrese.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I would have won Tyrese in that one too, even though I do like that song. Uh next round, Tyrese. How what am I gonna do versus Tank can't let it show right?

SPEAKER_02

I don't think I know either one of those songs.

SPEAKER_06

Why did I send you the playlist here if you don't know?

SPEAKER_02

I listened to and then I'll put a check mark beside them, but I can't remember. I can't remember them. I I got all these other songs in my head. So okay. Let's okay. Do you know the song?

SPEAKER_03

No, I bake these are not top tier songs from either one of them, so it's kind of but uh I think I would go with Tyrese though. Okay, I do.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I think I remember now.

SPEAKER_01

Uh Will, do you know the song? Uh I mean, I'm I'm gonna be honest, I share a lot. You know, I'll try to be better this year. So nah, man. I agree with you. Uh what I'm gonna do. But but I'm gonna go with Tyrese, too.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, okay. Well, I was gonna say, what I'm gonna do is I'm since y'all don't know, and I do, I'm going to let my vote be the pick this time. Is that fair?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because these are not these are not top, in my opinion, these are not top tier songs by either one of them.

Who Has The Better Catalog

SPEAKER_06

Okay, good. Go ahead. I am going to pick Tyrese. That was my pick, anyway. Okay, go ahead. I mean, they don't neither one of them know, so that's why I was like, but it's honestly though the what am I gonna do is probably top seven of Tyrese songs? Really? Yeah, never heard of it. Now, I think if y'all heard it, I think if y'all, if you if I played it right now, y'all be like, Oh, that's what that is, yeah. All right, cool. So Tyrese is gonna move on. I think he's gonna he's gonna lose in the next round anyway, so it don't matter. Matter of fact, since we're here, uh what am I gonna do versus how you're gonna act like that? Seeing that y'all don't know that when I'm assuming y'all are gonna go with how you gonna act like that. Okay, well, you as well.

SPEAKER_01

Well, let us decide at least.

SPEAKER_06

Damn, Trump, y'all do know the song, so it's kind of like I enjoyed the call somebody trust.

SPEAKER_01

Uh no.

SPEAKER_03

They they like you said, they they know the song if they heard it, they would know because it's it it did play on the radio, but I just don't. I mean, I can see why you would say top seven.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that's why I say it's top five, but it is. I would say it is top.

SPEAKER_03

I can see why you would say top seven. It definitely played on the radio for sure.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, oh I mean, I'll give you that. It played way more than his rap album. Absolutely, true.

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna go listen to both of them.

SPEAKER_06

Tosh didn't know he had a rap album. Rap album. Yes, Tyrese had a rap album.

SPEAKER_02

Lord have mercy.

SPEAKER_06

His rap name, his rap name was Black Tie.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was right after he did baby boy.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, it was right after you did baby.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like you knew that was his name.

SPEAKER_06

Because I I wanna say, wasn't it a double disc? Because I think he did, yeah. He got a double disc. Yeah, because one of them was a rap album, one of them was an RB album.

SPEAKER_02

Black Tie. That's new.

SPEAKER_01

You know, that's uh that's a lost uh a lost form of uh music delivery as the double disc. Of course, it wouldn't be a disc nowadays, but yeah, you don't see those collaboration albums as many as you used to back in the day.

SPEAKER_06

You don't, yeah, you're right. No doubt double discs don't happen as often in the cable cover. I can't even say a word. Album. Joint albums, joint albums don't happen as much as often. Uh J. Code did collab. Collab, thank you.

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J.

SPEAKER_06

Code did his last album was a double disc, uh, and I think it shouldn't have been, but that's neither nor there. Um so well, like I said, how you gonna act like that versus Tyrese? What am I gonna do? Ashley, since you know both of these songs, I'm gonna let you be the deciding factor.

SPEAKER_03

Uh how you gonna act like that?

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Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_06

So, how you gonna act like that is gonna move on, and let's see what it's gonna go up against. You got tank, please don't go, versus Tyree, sweet lady.

SPEAKER_07

Ooh.

SPEAKER_06

This is a hard battle. This is this is a hard one. This is this is a hard one.

SPEAKER_01

So I gotta ask it. This how is I'm really uh it ain't like just I'm actually gonna pick one, but I do want to say this though. If you want to master together, wouldn't sweet lady. Please don't go.

SPEAKER_06

I mean, that sounds like a nice song, but uh please don't go with lady, or it's sound like what if you would have you put it, sound like it came out in the 70s or the 80s.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, get the AI on it right now. Uh but uh I'm gonna go with uh the tape.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. He's going, please don't go. Will is going, please don't go. Ashley, what's for you?

SPEAKER_03

Ooh, this was a tough one. Um, because both of them are playing in my head. Kind of like Will. Like, where would I go? Um uh I'm going sweet lady, actually. I'm surprising myself a little bit. I'm going sweet lady. I like the lyrics. I think I like the lyrics a little bit more than please don't go. But please don't go. It's it's a really good song.

SPEAKER_06

Tasha, it's up to you. You are to decide and vote.

SPEAKER_02

Can I get uh can I get uh you to reass the question, please?

SPEAKER_06

The song is Tank, please don't go versus Tyree Sweet Lady.

SPEAKER_02

I think I would like to go with please that is the part right there.

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SPEAKER_03

That is the part that keeps you into the song. But sweet lady got good lyrics though.

SPEAKER_06

I I was gonna say I personally I would have worked with lady. I like uh sweet lady, though. All right, um but Tay Tay.

SPEAKER_01

Let's think about this though, real quick. Let me say this real fast. Um if you listen, if you think about those two songs, the it's a great thing about music because it kind of covers you in different moments in your life. But like if you play the lyrics back in your head, like it's the two totally different parts of the relationship. Like Tyrese's at like the beginning of the relationship, you know, you're you know, all in this smitten phase, and then Tank's like trying to keep her from leaving because silly shit.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's the great thing about music. Tank messed up a lot though when you start listening to the mother songs, but anyway.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, maybe maybe I deserve yeah, maybe I deserve a series.

SPEAKER_03

That was that was serious.

SPEAKER_01

They should lock you up after that one, bro.

SPEAKER_03

You can hear the passion in his mess up about that situation.

SPEAKER_06

So let me tell you tank say about two things messing up and sex. That's what you know what I'm saying. Don't be wrong, I know he got others up, but for the most part, it was the two things he thinks about.

SPEAKER_03

Well, those are where the hits are, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_02

I mean that's that's unfortunate. That's that's that's what people can relate to, isn't relatable.

SPEAKER_03

That is pretty bad, pretty sad when you think about it, but that is that is true.

SPEAKER_06

That is true.

SPEAKER_02

You mean it's gonna mess up and uh get you know get right, you know. Sometimes it's both you're gonna mess up and then get right, or get right and then mess up, one of the two. It's gonna it's gonna play out at some point either way.

SPEAKER_01

Sometimes you gotta sometimes you gotta mess up and then get right and then mess up again. Yeah, just to get right again. There it goes, just to get right again.

SPEAKER_06

So yeah, uh all right, now over on the other side of the bracket, tank slow, speaking of talking about sex, versus tyres stay. Right? Who you got slow tank, tank slow by tank versus stay by Tyrese.

SPEAKER_02

I uh who's who who's going?

SPEAKER_06

You oh okay. Why do you always ask who's going when I just said your name? Oh, I don't be careful because I don't be heard.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sorry. Um I like slow, slow just came out. I ain't gonna say just came out. I mean, okay, people, I don't listen to this type of music all the time. Um two years ago, it's probably been out for about three or four years, and I'm just now listening to it like oh I like it, it just came out. But stay is but stay has been out longer than I know of. So with that being said, slow is is playing more in my head than stay. So with that being said, I'm going to go with slow.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. All right, it was 2022. You were saying it's four years ago. I thought it was. I went back quick. All right, so right, you going with slow, correct?

SPEAKER_07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06

All right. Will stay with I or slow.

SPEAKER_01

These two with the with the the the song names, they always they always go together very well. Sometimes people stay slow. But uh no, I'm going with stay. Uh that was one of my again, I first had it in the first round. I I really like the song.

SPEAKER_06

Will is going with stay. Uh I think I would pick slow, but it's just me. That being said, my vote does not count. Ashley, what do you say? Slow or stay.

SPEAKER_02

Oh you froze up.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I think she froze up.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no.

SPEAKER_06

Well, we gonna give her a second to maybe come back with us. Okay, we have the technical difficulties. We're gonna get there. I feel like I feel like it's gonna come. Um so I'm gonna I'm gonna move to the next round, then we're gonna come back. I'm gonna let her get her vote in on that one. Wait a minute. There she go. Are you with us, Ashley? Okay, she's not with us. So, like I said, we're gonna move to the next, we're gonna move to the next round. Okay. You good?

SPEAKER_03

Sorry, technical difficulties over here. I guess I guess the system didn't want me to vote on this one. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

It did not, it sounded it sounds like it won't it won't, or it wanted me to vote, but I was trying to.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's okay. Let's let's let's say this. First of all, these are two very different songs. It is very much so, and very much in two very different directions in the relationship at this point. Okay, let's just make that clear for the people. Um, so I think that the true answer resides in where you are at the time you listening to these songs. That's a great point. Okay, I just gotta put that disclaimer out there for the people. Um I mean, I think Will's right. There's some people that stay slow in in situations, but I think I'm going with stay.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, stay is moving on to the next round, and let's see what it will be going up against. Uh the is options tank win we versus tank. Maybe I deserve. What did I say? Tank does talk about messing up or talk about so that being said, we'll maybe I deserve versus tank. Wait a minute, hold on. Sorry, it's win week versus tank. Maybe I deserve. I was about to say uh tank's law, but it's maybe I deserve versus win we uh Jesus.

SPEAKER_01

This was hard. This was hard. We didn't expect it. So, so maybe I deserve. He was he was fighting for everything. Like, I if you go back and listen to that song, I mean, you know, he deserved what she was doing. There wasn't no maybe. He kept saying maybe, and it was like, bruh, maybe, maybe, bruh. Yeah, like maybe, maybe like we all know, but when we man, man. So I'm gonna go with when we because that that's that that song just it just I got good memories with that song. Let's just say that.

SPEAKER_06

Okay. Okay, that's it. I would go with when we too. When we yeah, I'm just gonna go with that one. All right. When we or maybe I deserve. Now uh when a person starts off with name.

SPEAKER_01

frustrated over her about which was she going with uh see i the win we is a a a newer song i mean it it's probably been out for a while and i don't hear as much as i would hear maybe i deserve it came out 2017 hey for real yeah i did it uh i'm gonna go with maybe i deserve that was the sub the most surprising vote i've had so far oh yes i was i was gonna i just assumed you was going with we we all right ashley you are the tiebreaker when we really yes because listen first of all have you heard that beat drop on when we yes i've heard it i i mean i know i guess it's one of your songs but i'm saying that's that's a thousand i've heard it a thousand times yes okay yeah but that that that beat drops that vocals on tank got voc that's a singing somebody for real yeah it is singing somebody yes that is true i mean yeah yeah when we was yeah when we that's when we're doing like you know what's i like the way that this the final four set up because it's two tank songs it's two tyres songs and they going against each other so good okay i like the i was i was concerned for a minute that was gonna be either like 3-1 or 4-0 or like whose songs is in the final four i'm glad that it is 2 2 uh it it is tyres stay versus tank win we that is okay right what is your vote i think i like when we okay but you just didn't pick it that round that's why i was well no well she ain't like it against us huh okay i respect it i respect it all right ashley when we versus tyres again two very different songs you know stay gives you like this soulful vibe to that to his point of what he made comments about stay does give you the soulful but i'm going when we that beat drops the vocals i mean i'm going with it when we uh will what would you have picked i i would have gone with uh because of the uh the actual uh the beat of the song so like nothing to do necessarily because i just think about that uh when he uh when he first comes in and he's sang in that part he threw out it took a long time and you know it's kind of like drawn out a little bit and then that beat comes in and it's like a party starts you know even though like the song isn't like the party song it's like that beat kind of gives you like that urge to just okay I got you I got you yeah all right on the other side of the bracket we have tank please don't go versus Tyrese how you gonna act like that I knew it I knew it's yeah that was a tough one to Q but okay that is that is the to get to the championship matchup Tank please don't go versus Tyrese how you gonna act like that I will give y'all some time and I'm going to tell y'all that I will go with I would have won with Tyrese in this battle again another another example of them titles merging very well but this in this case it's kind of like you know please don't go and she says no I'm leaving and you say girl how you gonna act like that okay it works it works well that's that is a whole full blown conversation work yeah yeah that's how it would go too act like that yeah no it's real all right right please don't go versus how you gonna act like that how you gonna act like we don't make you know you know we turn it up next whatever Tashika saying is what she's going with it we'll take please don't go versus Tyrese how you gonna act like that well I'm gonna have to go with uh uh both of them begging for her to stay both of them credit for that but I'm gonna have to go with uh how you gonna act like that okay um what would you have picked how you gonna act like that okay all right the championship for all the marbles how you gonna act like that by Tyrese versus Tank Winweed oh that's so sweet it did they did end up real good they they ended up in the it ended up with them two going against each other I like how this played out so uh if I had to pick I think you can't figure it out either you can't right right you stuck what's up what's up host you stuck you struggling over there I am struggling because when I here's my issue when I think of when we I automatically go to the remix which is how side and tray songs not the original so if I'm doing the original versus how you're gonna act like that I'm going with Tyrese but if I'm doing the remix I think I'll pick the remix because I like what Trey and Ty did on on the song so but the remix is not on her it's not so I will go with Tyrese in this situation.

SPEAKER_03

Like I said I go straight to the remix but that being said I've never heard the remix yes you have but go ahead no I know you have because I done played it in the car with you that's how I know you heard it clearly she was not paying attention um I've never been in the car so I don't think I've heard it either thank you will you know you know it's crazy it made me think of this all the time I've been knowing you I've never rode in the car with you as far as you driving I've never sat in the passenger seat or the back in the car nope you ain't missed nothing dang dang danger behind the wheel with you is it's real right like dang i mean normally it's me and you going in it but on that one you was underhanded right there right that was that wasn't even an attack on music text that was personal my life skills you know like what I've been picked on I don't want I've been picked on the countless trips we'd have been on and you that's how you feel I've been picked on because they cared me out um like an old lady so oh so this is the get back right here okay I thought it was thought it was time but it wasn't sorry oh no maybe it was time it was it it worked it worked it was time why don't you pick a song since you won't pick on your brother why don't you pick a song uh you don't real uh actually no i'm talking you won't talk about the brother what song you think how you gonna act like that or versus tank when we well how you gonna act like that right on that's what I thought question I don't know uh that's it I'm gonna go with Tyrese okay that is one Tyrese Ashley would be over with you right here it could be but it's not I know it wasn't because when we go hard y'all now y'all know it goes hard now I I like both songs but when we I don't know maybe that's it's just it's just it's a lot to that song so I'm going okay that's why I did it in that order because I feel I figured Ashley was gonna go figure I would go opposite I get it so then we'll gotta break it we'll gotta break the tie for the championship for the best song in this Tyrese versus Tank draft who is doing the versus will who you got when we by tank or how you gonna act like that by Tyrese man um you when we how you gonna act like that how you gonna act like that when we oh did I we did all this hearing though right he did a bump fake he did a yeah he bumped he he combined them and right got lost in the shuffle right he got the audio I'm gonna go I'm gonna go when we okay I wasn't expecting that all right so on this versus challenge the bracket challenge of tank and Tyrese Tank is the winner with win we which looking at the list oh no slow I was gonna say is the most latest song got the most of the latest song to come out but I forgot slow is on the list all right we did take the tyres um quick thoughts over their music just their music catalog period do you feel like there's a there one has a bigger catalog or a better cut catalog right I feel like uh tank has a uh better catalog and the one when when I say that is because I went to see him in concert and um this is in Greensboro uh shout out to the Coliseum and he was singing songs and I remember I was with Shavana and Shavana said why is he singing all these different songs I said because he wrote them and these different songs I didn't even know that he wrote them right because you know what I'm saying they these other people got you know let's just say a Jaheem or somebody like that you know they singing and you thinking hey they the one came up with the songs but no this this joke is like Teddy Raleigh you know I ain't gonna say he's on the same level but Teddy Riley and you know he came up with some bangers and just kind of kind of out of the blue Keith sweat same difference you know came up out of the blue with songs that he wrote but um yeah I think I'm gonna go with uh Tate um listen he has written for Kelly Rowland Marcus Houston Omarion Aaliyah Pleasure P Fantasia Jamie Foxx Donnell Jones Latoya Lucky Monica he has written for a lot Fantasia Pleasure P Tyres he's writing songs for Tyrese he has wrote written tank has written songs for a lot of people uh what song what song did he write for Tyrese oh that would make uh he that gets the one I wouldn't doubt it I don't it didn't list which song he wrote for Tyrese it listed the songs he wrote it for other people yeah it don't it don't give me a breakdown of which one he wrote for Tyrese okay text to you okay cool uh ashley what do you think of their mute their music catalog do you think one has a I like I said at the beginning I think Tyrese has the the more legendary hit yeah I feel like Tank has the longer run if that makes sense I I think that Tyrese is extremely gifted in more than one more artistic more than one artistic space right he's a model he's an actor you know he's a singer right and then ultimately a businessman right um yes he probably does have the more legendary songs but he also had a fan base before he really went into music uh when it comes to tank at the end of the day tank is a good old not to be funny but he's a good old church boy that can sing and play instruments like but he's a writer right he is a writer um and he pretty much honestly made his career out of writing backup singing and now you know being an artist but I'm with Ray when it when it really comes down to it I think that um tank has a lot of hits I mean he do he really has a lot of hits uh I take nothing away from Tyrese but if I if I look at the different songs I I really think there's more tank songs that I like or I would put above a lot of the Tyrese songs but I like I like both so that's my take will what about you yeah so overall um I'm gonna lean towards Tyrese uh and it's probably because his whole body work um I'm not just looking at this as privileges on the uh music if I was I I would I I I'd be hard pressed to pick either one if it was just music uh I I'm not including the the the writing and things of that nature even though that does show your talent I'm pretty sure Tyrese would have written some more if he didn't uh find himself doing other things all the time pretty sure it's hard to write songs for people in a movie set.

SPEAKER_01

Right those things probably don't pan out too easily uh but uh Tyrese the whole I I just remember the journey of Tyrese from the Coca-Cola man uh Coca Cola boy because he was young at the time uh on the bus singing uh and then you know you see a model and then you know start to hear more music from him and and now he's acting and it's just like we kind of watched Tyrese over over my lifetime grow up into the man he is now and Tank I've you know remember him coming around when he did and it was kind of like you know he'll drop a hit every once in a while but he never really was like consistently in the in the light. So uh I guess Tyrese to me is just more of the the talent I I gravitate towards okay all right well I appreciate y'all taking the time to do this podcast Mr.

SPEAKER_06

Burgless himself thank you sir no problem man I'm available Monday through Fridays uh call my agent and uh schedule whenever you need me next okay cool I will holler I I'm my own agent though I I I was gonna say I would I would I would have my people get in touch with your people which is just me hollering your people okay so yeah there's that and then um thank y'all uh Ray and Ashley do you have something y'all would like to promote yeah uh we want to promote our podcast ho please I feel what I said and it it is on a pod uh platform near you okay uh we thank y'all but thank y'all for listening to another episode of Holda and another thing presented by presented by mixed vibes media y'all already know the advice it's your boy Mr. Bell we're gonna catch y'all in the next one peace