We Get Real AF (WeGRAF)​ is an upbeat lifestyle and emerging tech & science podcast packed with mentorship & practical tools that empower women to succeed professionally & personally. Not a coder or a rocket scientist? Neither are we! Our goal is to redefine feminism, bridge cultural gaps, and give practical advice for living your BEST life in a tech-enabled world. Join Vanessa Alava & Sue Robinson for REAL conversations with female leaders exploring how cutting-edge science & technology intersect with everyday life.