
Back2Different
Change always creates resistance and fear. As we move through this crisis, let us take the chance to re-align our focus to what's important and to what we each can do to create change, empathy, and community.
Episodes
92 episodes
Heather Hansen O'Neill - Of Course It's Non-Linear!
"Doesn't work up to expectations" was inscribed repeatedly on my report card. Heather's too. She's danced professionally, I coincidentally, and we both love it. We talk about raising thin...
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Season 3
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Episode 92
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1:03:53

Jenlyn UNBN - Curiosity Becomes Audacity
"You may have to wait to talk, but you never have to wait to listen." Every back2different podcast starts with a 5-10 minute story - the guest's answer to "How did you get here?" That's all we need to move forward together. Just not...
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Season 3
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Episode 91
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1:07:06

Sarah Elkins - "Land the plane, Sarah!"
We had a wonderful journey together, Sarah and I, as we shared her blossoming, awakening, I guess, as an adult. As she says, "I found my voice at 40." A classically trained singer,...
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Season 3
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Episode 90
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1:11:51

Amy Gallie - Principals and Principles
I was never diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder. Of course, the label didn't exist until 1980, so I simply received more than one report card that said, 'Seems to have difficulties following direction." As a lifelong teacher, I...
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Season 3
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Episode 89
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1:01:21
Victor Acquista - Globs of Energy
I have always suspected that lots of planets lined up identically for Victor's and my births. We don't finish each other's sentences, but we do finish each other's paragraphs....
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Season 3
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Episode 88
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1:05:30
Gina Mazza - We're Not here to Be Stagnant
I met Gina Mazza during an online conversation about creativity. Took us a bit of back-and-forth to get to recording, and then a few delays to mix and load. With every minute.She's had a varieg...
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Season 3
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Episode 87
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1:10:28

Maggie Jackson - The Islands of our Knowledge
Via my wonderful friend Craig James arrived Maggie Jackson. So here's a tiny sample of our journey together:The unease of uncertainty is ...
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Season 3
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Episode 86
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59:16

Carey Corr - I Thought a Lot Older
Carey Corr has a marvelous story. He is a film-maker and carries a boundless sense of curiosity and adventure. He's fearless and we share the excitement of new ideas alongside a deep suspicion of knowing<...
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Season 3
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Episode 85
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1:12:20
Clarabelle Miray Fields - It Has to be Raw
I met Clarabelle Miray Fields on a forum about creativity and knew I'd need to listen more to what she had to explore. She was self-publishing when she was four, binding her own books using her mother'...
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Season 3
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Episode 84
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52:31
Glenn Behenna - Distinctly Average
We gathered each other through a mutual friend, Colin Smith. Glenn Behenna worke...
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Season 3
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Episode 83
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58:07

Peter Cook - Bring Their Brains to Work
Music, toxic HR culture, confounded with structure, 'I cycled through the pandemic,' moral hazard and money to be made, exam strategies and rock songs, and then our conversation took off. How can you not like listening in on a conversation ...
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Season 4
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Episode 82
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49:58
Michael Padurano - Showering in the Dark
We can be successful in business, outwardly merry, envied and admired. At the same time, we may be carrying a corrosive load of trauma, unhealed emotional and spiritual bruises that can lead to broken relationships, thoughts of suicide, and add...
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Season 4
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Episode 81
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1:10:59

Tamsin Astor - A Pillar of Pleasure
No stone left unturned in this one. Tamsin Astor is fearless, peripatetic (as in she's been all over the place geographically and educationally), and embracing. I would love to get together with...
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Season 3
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Episode 80
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1:03:08
Jim Burke - Be Careful Not to Should All over Yourself
Jim Burke appeared through my connection with Craig James, and each connection enriches the other. I finally got some time with Ji...
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Season 3
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Episode 79
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59:24

Phil Williams - Sit in the Dining Car with Total Strangers
I hate scratching my head with "I wonder what s/he meant by that?" First of all, I'm an inept fill-in-the-unspoken-part practitioner. Hence my pleasure at getting together with Phil Wi...
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Season 3
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Episode 78
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1:22:41
Ileana Ferber - This is Your Hummingbird
So Ileana and I explore trees, quiet, burls, pushing less and being more, Cra-Cra, chickens, naps, a sky with no airplanes, and "the moment you start laughing at yourself, that's when you're free."Ileana grew up in Venezuela, worked 24 ...
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Season 3
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Episode 72
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1:04:56
Ozlem Brooke Erol - Everybody is Waiting for Friday
Brooke left behind her home country - Turkey - and her successful career at IBM to find a new home - San Diego - and to start her own consulting businesses:purposeful.business is a sit...
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Season 3
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Episode 76
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1:02:29
Craig James - I'm Going Wonderment
Craig James is my trust talker. We never plan nothin'. One of us brings a thought, an idea, an event, a confusion, and then we start bouncing around like the lights from a mirror ball. It's ...
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Season 3
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Episode 75
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59:19

Melissa Hughes - That Three Pound Wrinkly Mass Between Your Ears
What a combo of insight and humility is Melissa. I know, that sounds like the first line of a sonnet - she and I tend toward the childlike and the fun. In our time with microphones, we...
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Season 3
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Episode 74
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54:39

Roger Martin, Colin Smith, and Mac Bogert: "The Rise of the Feminine."
In any conversation that includes Roger and Colin, I wait comfortably in silence for their contributions. What I get for a small investment of patience is wisdom, empathy, and self-effacing humor. When I asked Roger to contribute to
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Season 3
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Episode 73
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46:14
Byron and Mariah Edgington - In some ways, the year in Vietnam was the safe part.
Byron Edgington and Mariah Edgington pay complement to each other very well indeed. They don't complete each others' sentences - a practice...
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Season 3
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Episode 72
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51:14
Vura Julius-orage - Poetry, the Sound of our Story
Vura's voices are a joy. His speaking voice, his perspective, and his poetry, each rings straight and true. We both love writing and it brings us such pleasure that we spend a ...
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Season 3
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Episode 71
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45:53
Andee Scarantino - The World Just Opened
Andee and I discovered a parallel journey of confronting and casting off outmoded ways of thinking - "the lies we chose to believe . . . I just learned it that way." We've both had winding ...
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Season 3
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Episode 70
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58:48

Joseph Carrabis - The Light in their Eyes
I grew up engulfing as much science fiction - and, later, what would be labeled speculative fiction - as possible, so connecting with Joseph Carrabis was a natural. Like me, he loves ...
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Season 3
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Episode 69
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40:44

Amy Olmedo - Versions of the Truth
Amy Olmedo's life has not been so much a series of forks as a series of switchbacks. Her journey provides a clarity about trauma, change, and courage that will help you take stock, and take aim, at finding and living as yourself. As Oscar Wilde...
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Season 3
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Episode 67
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56:58