Shifting Reality: How Beliefs and Perceptions Transform Our Lives with Scott Robinson,The Brain Guy

In this thought-provoking episode, our host, Gavin McGahey, sits down with Scott Robinson, an expert in neuroscience and transformational coaching. 

They delve into the nature of beliefs, the impact of trauma, and the interconnectedness of all things. Scott shares his insights on how individuals can shift their perspectives to achieve a more peaceful and fulfilling life by recognizing the illusions they may be holding onto.

Time Stamps:

[00:00] - Introduction to Scott Robinson

[05:35] - The brain's role in trauma and beliefs

[10:55] - Trauma as a projection of a belief system

[15:23] - The concept of reality and illusions

[20:45] - The power of the mind and our beliefs in shaping our reality

[26:12] - Oneness and the interconnectedness of everything

[32:17] - Scott's personal journey and experiences

[37:44] - The importance of finding peace and living effortlessly

[42:58] - Practical advice for changing beliefs and overcoming trauma

[47:29] - Gavin's key takeaways from the conversation

[52:04] - Final thoughts and conclusion

Key Takeaways:

1. Trauma is attached to a belief system. By changing your beliefs, you can bring peace into your life and change your perceptions.
2. You can only perceive what you believe. By changing your beliefs, you can change your reality and the way you view the world.
3. The power of the mind is limitless. By understanding the illusions we hold onto, we can shift our perspectives and live a more peaceful and fulfilling life.
4. Embracing the interconnectedness of everything, or oneness, can help us see the world in a more loving and compassionate way.

In this episode, Scott Robinson shares his expertise on neuroscience and transformational coaching, providing valuable insights into how our beliefs and perceptions shape our reality. By understanding the power of the mind and embracing the concept of oneness, listeners can begin to change their beliefs, overcome trauma, and live a more peaceful and fulfilling life.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):

Welcome everyone to 100Speaker 2 (00:04):

Breaths, theSpeaker 1 (00:05):

Podcast with Gavin McGahey. Open raw and empowered conversations that can help everyday people to learn techniques to deal with the challenges of everyday life. And just like most of us out there, I am continually processing the daily challengesSpeaker 2 (00:21):

That life and business throws at us. So I welcome you to ride with me on this journey of discovery and personal development.
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Hi everyone. Welcome to another episode of 100 Breaths, the podcast with Gavin McGahey. Well, today we have a very special guest and his name is Scott Robinson. And Scott Robinson is known as the brain guy. And I'll just give you a little bit of a brief on Scott himself. Well, Scott is a senior lecturer with the Academy of Applied Movement, neurology and a master healer and a mind aligned with both trust and limitlessness. Scott works directly with the mind, with the brain and the nervous system, as well as the subtle energetic anatomy to achieve balance, not only in the governing systems of the body, but across the whole experience of life. Now, Scott does this by the integration of multiple healing paradigms into a singular holistic approach aimed at optimizing nervous system function, as well as upgrading the subconscious programs of the mind. Scott's work aligns the mind with the core truth, the individuals being and purpose, as well as aligning the nervous system in such a way is to meet with the requirements of any individual accessing their very best life. Scott shares his wisdom, truth, and scientific understanding towards accessing swan's greatest health, very best life and true limitless capabilities via one-on-one and group healing experiences, courses, retreats, podcasts, and presentations. Welcome Scott Robinson to 100 breaths. Today I've got a special guest in the studio and he's enjoying some beautiful king's Cliff beach weather and some Gold Coast weather. And I'd like to welcome Scott Robinson. Now, Scott Robinson is known as the brain guy, so we welcome you Scott to 100 breaths.Speaker 3 (02:18):

Thank you very much for having me. Great to get to be here in your amazing little setup. It's incredible.Speaker 2 (02:22):

Yeah, thank you. Well, we put a bit of energy into it and we wanted it to just feel right. And you know what that's like when you just want something to feel right and just want to feel really comfortable in a space. And that's what we've created here in our little humble little studio. But it's a good feeling placeSpeaker 3 (02:39):

Hundreds, and I think you've knocked it out of the park in that regard. So mate, grateful to get to be here and looking forward to whatever's going to unfold for us.Speaker 2 (02:46):

And that's what we'll do. We'll just unfold the conversation as we always do here at hundred breaths. And we just want to have some open roar and authentic conversations and have guests like yourself that can share things with us from your learnings and we can send the message out and have a little bit of a ripple effect in the community. And if everyone's little ripple ripples with everyone else, well we're going to pass on a little bit of good. Yeah,Speaker 3 (03:12):

So look, that's my intention. I would love to be able to give away whatever it is that people actually truly need that's going to be truly helpful. So that's my intention. And look, hopefully if you're listening, then you get something truly valuable out of this. Great.Speaker 2 (03:24):

So let's start with where did it all begin for you, what would you like to share with us a little about your life as a young boy growing up and what did your parents stand for?Speaker 3 (03:33):

Ah, interesting. So look, I guess mean who I am today. I try to put labels on anything, but I mean, if you're going to label something, you'd say, what I do is healing. And so you would say, okay, if you do healing well, then you must be a healer. But you, you're healing in healing, you're teaching teaching, and you're giving away truth and you're giving away new, an incredible new learning about the world so that people can go and live, live their most abundant life, go and live their very best life, be their true self, and literally go and add real value, real benefit to the world. And that was always there from when I was a really little kid. My mom always tells stories about when I was really little and she'd be sick. She said I, I'd turn up with my healing hand, say, have some my warm mummy, I'll give you some my warm.
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And I didn't know anything about hands on healing or anything at that point, but she said she was always going. There's something that kin there's, there's something going on there. And the story I always go back to from when I was a kindergarten, I can remember feeling incredibly conflicted standing around in the playground and kindergarten with my mates at three years of age, all talking about what we wanted to be when we grow up. And all we really knew was emergency services. It was the only options that we really knew about. So we were all arguing over what do you want to be? Do you want to be a policeman, a fireman, or an ambulance man? And everybody knew which one they wanted to be. And I just remember feeling so incredibly conflicted because I couldn't choose, I couldn't work out which one I wanted to be, and it was because I couldn't work out which one helped people better, which one helped people more.
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And I just remember sitting there wrestling thinking, well, the policeman's got a gun and he protects people from robbers. I mean, that's pretty good. But I mean, well, the ambulance man, he drives people to hospital when they're sick and saves their life. But then the fireman's got a ladder, he is got an ax, and he chops into buildings when the house is burning down. And he says, people are like, oh, hunter, which one? Hell better? So yeah, that was always there. So I just still live by that. I just want to help really. I just want to help. And if he can be truly helpful, well look, that's an amazing thing to bring to the world. So my parents were both teachers. And so same thing though, my father, it's something I guess I built a huge value on, even as a teenager in my twenties, I'd be going out to pubs and the number of people that young people coming up to you with, just tattoos all over them and piercings and long hair and dreads and just going, are you Mr. Robos son? Like mate, he was the best teacher. He was the only one that ever gave me the time of day, the only one that ever really helped. And so I had a real value on that, on just trying to be helpful. And so that's largely what I'm doing today.Speaker 2 (06:01):

That's pretty cool. That would've been interesting at three years old going that deep on the difference between the three emergency services and which one you're going to end up with. Well, so what was your first job,Speaker 3 (06:13):

Funnily enough? So my first job was all entrepreneurial. I worked out at a really young age. I didn't want to have a boss. I just remember I worked out you could work for yourself and you could just go and earn money. I thought, well, why would I want to have a boss if I can just do that for myself? And so my first real job was selling ice creams at the footy. So I lived not too far away from Brookvale over where the Manley Sea Eagles play and kids, when I was about 13, 14 years of age, kids could go down there and in a few hours they could earn 30 bucks, which was a lot of money. So I remember I also got a job working at Ocean Master Seafoods earning $3 72 an hour. So 30 bucks was significant money. And so I went down there and just with a bit of effort and some ingenuity was earning 50 bucks in not too long.
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And then I teamed up with a maid of mine and we shifted a few rules and we invented a few different processes and we shifted a few prices and it wasn't long before we're earning 500 bucks in an afternoon and as just little kids. And so it was like, why do I want to go work for a boss? Let's just go and do this. So just that freedom just to go and just make choices and the more effort you put in, the more return, the more reward that really lit me up inside. And so that was really my first sort of experience with work. And yeah, I've really shied away or gravitated away from the strict employer employee relationships kind of sense.Speaker 2 (07:38):

That's interesting. Brookvale Oval, my brother-in-law is one of the Manley Waringa greatest ever fullbacks, and that's Graham Wombat edi.Speaker 3 (07:47):

Oh wow. He's one of my favorite players as a kid. Yeah,Speaker 2 (07:50):

So Wombat lives here in Kingscliff and we see him quite regularly, but a very humble man and just a pure gentleman in every aspect of the word, but such a manly favorite even today. So many people just Oh, wombat. Yeah, I remember. Yeah. What a legend.Speaker 3 (08:10):

Yeah, absolutely. I had the footy cards, probably had the jersey as well.Speaker 2 (08:15):

Yep. Yeah. Well that's cool. Thank you for that story. And mine was, I was a paper boy. I used to do the paper runs. So I'd travel on, jump on my bike at five o'clock in the morning and ride around to the paper store and grab all the papers and go off through the hills and do the paper, run out to the homes. And nowadays we don't seem to see many paper boys around.Speaker 3 (08:38):

Oh no, I did that one too and sort of did that one, which was the weekly delivery. Well, but I liked, again, being entrepreneurial, I enjoyed the Sunday morning one with the whistle, the wheelbarrow on the whistle a bit more. And it worked out that if you could be just a good human being and run up several flights of stairs to give some lovely old lady, her Sunday morning paper give you 20 cents tip, and you'd be earning more money for that. And so it was same thing, just that freedom to just walk your own path, walk your own path, put more energy and more effort in and get a greater return. And I guess something that I'm doing now that I've, I guess have always loved, it's just connecting with people. Every job I've ever done has been involved with, had people involved and, and the times that hasn't been there, when I haven't had that people factor, I kind of found there just wasn't the happiness in the work. And so I moved on most times reasonably quickly.Speaker 2 (09:35):

And that leads me to my next question, how did you become the brain guy?Speaker 3 (09:39):

So long journey, but I was an athlete who eventually all athletes eventually retire and then became a coach and coach and trainer, and as a trainer, still holding that athletic mindset, that ath athlete's mindset, just wanted to be the best, wanted to be the best at what I was doing. But that would mean giving people the best result. And so I was constantly studying and up-leveling whatever I was doing to try and just be better at what I was doing so that I could give a better result to people. And I went down this path of rehabilitation because I, in my mind, the way I was perceiving things that seemed like a higher level to me, there was a greater depth of knowledge required to understand physiotherapy principles and to be able to deliver rehabilitation programs to people and solve long-term and complex movement functions.
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And it was via that path that it was like you're just looking for something more. Same thing as I did as an athlete. You're looking for an edge, you're looking for what's the next thing, what's the thing that takes me to that next level? And I discovered the brain. It was, and it's was such a synchronous little thing I remember always had my eyes out looking for something new. And I literally just saw a Facebook ad one day, and now I look back on it and it's incredibly simple, but at the time it was just mind blowing. And I kind of just recognized that's what I'm looking for. I think that's the thing I'm looking for. It was literally two guys on a Facebook ad book ad firing a functionally functional neurologic reflex to make a pectoralis muscle become stronger. And it flicked a switch straight away because I could looked at it and I could see, hang on, they're going to a central computer and they're pushing a button and they're turning muscles on and turning muscles off.
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That's what I'm looking for. That's what I need. Because I was working at the periphery and doing all these different exercises, which looked amazing, and they were all really challenging and they looked highly technical. But I wasn't affecting a whole lot of long-term change. I wasn't overcoming these hardwired ingrained patterns that were in the brain that were creating the movement dysfunctions. And so I remember seeing the ad thinking, I think that's what I'm looking for. And so I signed up to one of their courses that was applied Movement urology. I got some course that was completely not what I was looking for, but I was so convinced just on that one hook that I'd seen in the ad delved deeper and did another course. And then everything just unfolded from there, just sort of really just dived into that. And it was such an amazing thing because it just made sense.
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It just, whereas I'd been at school and I couldn't read books and I really struggled with reading and struggled in a whole bunch of subjects. This just made sense. And it was just felt easy. And then all of a sudden I could read scientific papers and I could read medical papers. And all of a sudden I was just so enthused and just so motivated and inspired to learn more. And again, it just felt so easy. It just made sense, all of it. So that I was just diving into a rabbit hole and I just haven't come out.Speaker 2 (12:30):

And I, I'm really fascinated by what you just said just then, because you mentioned that when you were in school, you couldn't read books and you obviously, so education to then felt possibly a little bit awkward, but then you were able to find something that was a perfect fit for you. It just felt like this is the perfect fit. What do you feel happened your own neurology to then for you to be able to then shift from what was happening in school to falling into a neurological path?Speaker 3 (13:07):

So let's look at two paths really quickly with it. So what I did, I repeated my HSC because I did so terribly the first time. And really, I remember my parents saying to me, they said, what do you want to do, mate? And I said, oh, I want to go to university. And they said, okay, so that's not going to happen because you've done absolutely no work. You're not going to get those marks. And they said, look, tell you what, if you can buckle down, this is in my first hsc. They said, if you can buckle down for the next eight weeks and just show us that you can study, show us that you can apply yourself, we'll let you go back and repeat so that you can have a chance to go to university. But if you don't do that, you are going to have to work.
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You're gone. And I just as a 17 year old Lord, oh, that's a bit us. That's that's big wide world and scary. Oh, so I buckled down and kind of studied, still did poorly. But they said, okay, we'll let you go back and repeat. And so when I went back the second time, I remember thinking, this just isn't going to work. I had literally been doing English in the beer garden. I'd been doing English at that level, that the level that was where all the kids who were speaking English as a second language or doing it, I was doing that poorly. And I remember thinking, okay, you can't do that. You're smarter than that. And I thought, but you can't follow that system. It's not working for you. And I literally, I could just, I never read a book. It was so slow and so painful for me that I remember thinking, okay, you're going to step up and do the general level of English, just the average one.
(14:24)
How are you going to do this? And I thought, right, you're really good at movie quotes. You can remember movies and scenes. So okay, you're good at that. Let's what if you turn up and you just, let's turn every lesson into a movie and you're just going to visualize and you're just going to take in the scene and remember it like a movie and you'll just remember the quotes from what happened in the class. So I did that. I thought, I'll commit to asking really just silly questions. Don't care if I look stupid, I'll just get the information. I'm aware that when you write an essay, you need to have about a half a dozen that make it look like you know what you're talking about. So look right, you're going to focus in whenever the teacher says this quote is important, you're really going to pay attention.
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You're going to write that down. You're good at public speaking, you're good at creative writing, you'll do okay with that stuff, but that's like, that's your plan. And I just went in there and found a different way to learn. The system that the school was teaching really didn't work for me, but I just went and did my own thing and just figured out a way to learn. Didn't read a single book. I ended up winning the English Prize and I was so proud of myself cause I found a different way to learn. And it's a really interesting thing that I think there's a bunch of different people that I've seen that do things similar to me working with brain, working with mine. And they've all had a similar experience where they just couldn't learn or they were told they were broken and they had to figure out a different way to go.
(15:33)
Now what I figured out, I think that's kind of largely how a lot of people function is they'll just compensate and work out a better way to do things than what they've been doing. It wasn't true. That didn't, it wasn't a true way to go. It didn't open all of this up for me, but it showed me there was another way. And so that was important because that was an awakening. But what I understand now is at any time that you connect to something on a level of purpose, something that connects with you at the core of your being, you instantly, you become effortlessly inspired. Anything that you can link to your highest values, anything that you can link to true purpose, whether you recognize it or not, you can use that effortless inspiration as a feedback to let you know that you're on track with it.
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Or if you can what your true purpose and the truth of who you are, you know what that is, well then you can gravitate there and you'll just experience that effort, effortless inspiration. But that's what I found. As soon as I delved into this brain space, all of a sudden I was just effortlessly inspired. So yeah, still working hard, as in I'm spending lots of time reading these scientific papers and I'm reading medical journals and I'm studying and I'm doing these different courses, but I just loved it and I couldn't get enough of it. And then I take it to work and I'll be working with clients and I'm seeing all these movement dysfunctions disappear and I'm just, this is amazing. I just have to get more. But anytime you can connect with purpose, any time you can connect with highest values, literally at a cellular level, like your physiology changes, you know, just open up to so much more and you're so much more capable. You've got all this untapped potential that all of a sudden you just suddenly have available, whereas previously you didn't. And that's absolutely what I experienced.Speaker 2 (17:00):

Yeah, that's inspiring. Thank you for that. When we think about transformational change within a person, they say it takes a major event or an injury or a deep emotional event to trigger a change of direction in one's life. Have you ever had a turning point moment in your life?Speaker 3 (17:18):

I've had several. I've had lots. But it's an interesting thing, the way that I understand mind now and the way I see people transform these days is it's literally what level you're paying attention to. Yeah. So you could have a really traumatic experience and absolutely that can make you pay attention and you can't have an awakening. And out of that, you say, I need to change some things. I can't keep going the way that I'm going. But that largely happens when you've been living unintentionally and just not paying attention. And then it takes some jarring experience to really jot you out of that. If you're paying attention, well maybe you don't need the big jarring experience. You can just have an awareness. You can have a small awakening that shifts you on a different path. And so I look back and I've had a whole heap of those.
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And in healing, when I'm unfolding things in mind and giving this kind of transformational change to people, the amazing thing to me, and I love sharing this with people because the way the world understands transformational change and understands healing, the world understands that in the context of you have to go looking for the big trauma or you have to experience a big shift of some kind. Got to go find the big wound. Because if we heal that, that'll change everything. You fundamentally cannot have a highly traumatic experience if you don't first have a belief in suffering or a belief in the fact that you can be hurt or a belief in the fact that things can go wrong, you would need to go and instill that belief because you didn't have that belief when you were born. You didn't come into the world with that belief.
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You learned it at some point. And it's al, it's almost always learnt in psm little innocuous moment where you know, were just shut down by a parent or you know, were told no by somebody or a teacher gave you a limiting belief or there's some, there'll be a moment in your life where you've literally shifted your belief system, you planted a seed kernel of belief in fear or a seed kernel of belief in doubt or a seed kernel of belief in suffering or pain or whatever it was. And once you have that belief, well your belief makes your perception. Your perception generates your experience of reality. So you plant a little sea kernel of belief in suffering. Well that belief's now got a foundation. You can build an entire belief system based in suffering on top of that one little sea kernel that you planted.
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Now down the track, you can have a really big traumatic experience. And if you want to understand how it is that you could completely miss that traumatic experience. Well, I always say to people, imagine just being, and this is probably something you're doing in your work, just getting people present, finding the present moment. Imagine being truly present. And that would mean to be truly, truly present, you would have to have no past. There'd be no past information, there'd be no future information. You'd just be now. Right? And so if you're truly, truly present, no past, no, no future, you're just now. And in that true present moment awareness, there's no judgment. You don't make judgments, you realize you're not. You're letting go of decisions because you can't have any decisions. You can't make any judgments if you don't have any information from the past to formulate a judgment on.
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So there's no judgment, there's no decisions, which means you are just in this state of acceptance, which means everything just is. This just is what it is. And I can't compare it to anything. So I don't have any other information. I can't judge it on how I think it's supposed to be cause I've got no projections in the future. I'm just now you could be in the worst state of chronic pain imaginable and you would have no other option other than to look at that and just say, well, I don't really know what this is. I'll judge it. I can't compare it by anything cause I don't have any of that information. So I guess this just is what it is. Okay, well maybe I just need to sit with it and I can allow truth to come and I can figure this out and I can see what's supposed to unfold.
(20:40)
But that's literally what would happen in any traumatic experience if you were true, if you were able to be truly, truly present, you would literally just have to be with what is, just be here now. That's literally what you would have to do. And so literally, if you don't have that first seed kernel of belief planted, if you don't have a belief in suffering, if then you don't have a belief, you can't make the perception that allows you to perceive suffering. So we can just go back and we can dissolve that first seed kernel of belief and you can go and have this transformational change. So yes, you could have that by going to a big traumatic experience, but you could dive into the mind and the mic could just take you back to wherever that first seed of belief was planted, and we could just go and heal that and just instill some truth there.
(21:19)
And then literally it just rewrites everything. That's everything that's in your belief system, in your understanding of the world, and you just find yourself now in this place saying, oh, I can just be at peace. I don't have that baggage anymore, which is just a beautiful thing. So yes, I've had several of those moments and I look back at them and I've gone and unfolded them some different transformational moments. Absolutely. But now I understand the big benefit, the big value is actually just going for, looking for what's true. Where did I change my belief system about the world? Where did my perception and understanding of the world change? And I can go back to that, change that, and then everything changes from there.Speaker 2 (21:54):

Yeah, it's something that I've been through as well on, and I just had a note here, trauma is attached to the belief, and that's the same as if I can't find love that's attached to the belief that you're not worthy or you're not lovable, or I'll never be wealthy. That's attached to that, the scarcity belief of, and that could be from childhood factors, et cetera, but it's about how we recognize them and then change our beliefs so that we can just truly be as wished to be in the moment. Absolutely. It's you talk about judgment and it's quite interesting that right behind us, we've got my first self-help wellness book there, which is called the Little Book of Noticing, and it's how one change can bring peace into your life, and that one change is how to let go of judgment and turn it into things you notice.
(22:53)
So it becomes, well, I'm not a judge of anything, but I can just notice what's taking place. And then the noticing can lead to some feeling and then the feeling can then lead to some new awarenesses. So it's a very simple, profound way to look at things to say, if I was to just let go of what I'm judging and just simply notice what's taking place and allow whatever is taking place to take place, I can be where I am, which is what you spoke about, and I can be truly me and I can just be here.Speaker 3 (23:29):

Absolutely. It's such a beautiful thing and it's a beautiful thing you've done putting that together. And it's an interesting thing when you say that word, Lao, that was something that was coming up for me as all of this stuff was unfolding and I was understanding more and probably helping people to greater and greater levels. The word allow kept coming up, it just kept coming up and it seemed increasingly important that really everything I'm doing, everything everyone else is doing, we just need to allow. And I didn't fully understand it, but now I understand it probably to a much deeper level. And exactly what you're saying is we need to get to a state of open-mindedness. And most people, when you say, Hey, be open-minded, most people will say, oh yeah, absolutely. But in a state of true, open-mindedness, no decisions, an open mind is an honest mind and in an honest mind there's no decisions.
(24:13)
There's no judgment because if you are making a decision, you are making a judgment. Now, you could only ever make a judgment if you had all the information you would need to have all the information. And I guess the example I always give with that is if you look at our judicial process, look at how the law functions in this world, and we say like, okay, you have one wise person that we call a judge. And then you've got two cases arguing, two sides arguing a case, and this side presents all of its case and all of its information. This one presents all of its case and information. When that wise person that we call a judge, when that wise person decides that he or she has all of the relevant information, then they believe they can make a decision and they say, you are right and you are wrong.
(24:51)
The truth is for you to be able to have all the information, you would need to have all the information in the information field. So information exists in fields, and so you have a thought that thought creates fields that thought you have thought fields and all the information of that thought again is an information field. Now that information field, there's no separation, there's no boundary to it, it's actually, it's infinite. So for you to have all the information about any situation, you'd have need to have all the information in the entire information field. And there's no boundary, there's no edge to that because everything exists in oneness. So the entire information field would actually be all the information in the universe that would be in some way influencing whatever it is that you're experiencing in every situation, which would just simply mean that if you are operating an existing at the level of perception, you are never aware of all the information in the information field.
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So if you don't have all the information, you couldn't possibly make a true judgment, you'd just be making it up based on the limited amounts that you're seeing in your perception. So for you to judge, that's to be dishonest about what you actually are. Because what you actually are, you don't actually have all the information, you're not capable of having all that information. So you're literally telling yourself that you're capable of judging when you're not actually, you're not set up that way. That's not the way you design. You don't in this physical body with your physical perception, you don't have all that information. So the open mind is honest, there's no judgment, and the instant that there's no judgment, there's just acceptance because when there's no judgment, instantly all things become equally acceptable because again, you just come back to that more. We just have to notice and just be with what is. So I love that. I love giving that to people and just saying, be the open mind. Everyone likes the idea of being an open mind. Well, in an open mind, there's no judgment. If there's no judgment, instantly all things become equally acceptable because you're just not making decisions about anything. Then as you say, you have the opportunity to just be with what is. You then have the opportunity to find the true self and unfold what's truly there, which is perfect for you.Speaker 2 (26:44):

Yeah, it's interesting from when I finished the book and it had been locked away, and then going off through the final stages of publication, et cetera, I then had this moment that came to me and threw me around just what's noticing real, how I was noticing, really showing up for me. And I came up with the four principles that I call the art of noticing. And the first one is stay in your own lane. And there's some context around that. And the next one is be your authentic self. And the third one is be where you are because we can't be anywhere else. Why not just be there? And the fourth one is always look for ways to feel good. So when you can and you can apply one of those four principles at any sort of stage of what's unfolding for you in any moment.
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So then you can have an awareness of it and then go, ah, okay, am I being where I am right now? Well, no, I'm not. Well just come back to where you are and you can then enjoy that for whatever it is. And sometimes people would say to me, well, how can I be there and being enjoying and looking for a ways to always feel good when I'm at my best mate's funeral or I'm in hospital and I've got something that's not, that's wrong internally with me. And I say, well, we can always go back to looking for ways to feel better than we are, even at times when we're not feeling that great. So I can put my energy and focus then into healing myself internally, put my energy and focus into celebrating my mate's life and all the joy and things that hit that we shared together. So we can apply one of those principles at any time to just bring us back to being our authentic self. ASpeaker 3 (28:41):

Hundred percent. And I think the first thing to cover with that is always you need to ask an honest question. And honest questions don't really exist in this world. And exactly what you described is the way people ask questions. Well, how can I come back to find something good? How can I be happy when I'm at my M mate's funeral? How can I be happy? Or how can this be good? What you are saying work out and be true when I'm in hospital with this condition? What you're essentially saying is you're not asking a question, you're making a statement of your perspective and your statement of your perspective. That's a decision. That's what you've decided about a decision. You've dec about a situation. You've decided that this situation is bad and nothing's going to change, nothing's going to change your mind. You are, you've made a decision, you that's a decision about what reality is.
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So you've decided this is bad. And then you're saying, okay, well given this is bad, how's what you are saying going to help me? Well, nothing's going to change this because you've decided it's bad. You've set up that reality like a blocking space. It's not going to shift. You would need to simply come back and say, okay, I just need to ask. Let's ask an honest question. And then you would need to have a desire, you would need to want for something. So that last point, you're saying always look for ways to feel good. You would need to actually want to feel good. You would actually need to want for joy. And I think that's probably something that is really challenging for a lot of people in a lot of situations. If you're at a funeral, you probably feel really guilty if you wanting to feel good at a funeral.
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The whole atmosphere of belief in the room is that we should all be feeling pretty sad and down. So that can be challenging for people to actually want to feel good in any particular situation, but it's actually available. It's always available. And so this is the thing we're talking about earlier is I have a process, we'll just work with the high level of mind. And again, the true self is who you truly are at your core is eternal. This is, you call it your soul, call it spirit, call it whatever you want, but at the deepest of levels, the true self is perfect and it doesn't change because it's eternal. Real, real things do not change. Eternal things don't change. They're always perfect. That perfection's always joyous, always peaceful. It's loving, it's abundant, it's free. Always doesn't change. It's a changeless state of being. So if that's eternal, that means it must be available in every time.
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It has to be available always. So there must, if it's available always, there must be a way that you could connect with it always. You would need to want for it first so that you'd want for it enough to go and look for it. You'd have to have that desire at a base level. If you don't have the desire, well, if you want for sadness more, well, you're just going to go and find that. But again, if you have the belief that it exists, well the belief makes the perception, the perception generates the experience of reality. And the only reason that you're going to go and look for it is because you want to go and find it. And so I have a process where you can literally just connect via beliefs via perception. You can literally just unfold peace or joy or freedom in any situation.
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It's always available. And so you are talking about going and looking for it, which is great. Exactly the same thing as saying, Hey, just be present, be open. Just notice you can go and find, you will eventually find something that brings you joy. Absolutely true. The way that I describe it to people is it's like if you're posting something on Instagram and you've got social media filters, you've got all these different filters that you can place over your image. We say imagine one of them. Imagine one gives you a feeling of sadness. The next filter gives you a feeling of anxiety. The next one gives you a tight chest and an increased heart rate. And all of these different filters give you some physiological feedback that feels pretty negative. But there's one there, whatever it is, call it it, vivid colors, call it whatever you want to call it.
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But there's one there that literally just brings you peace, just makes you go, oh, and just relaxes everything in your body. Well, that's the one that connects you with whatever's actually true, that there's a perception that you would be able to engage that would allow you to see what's actually true in that moment. And so there's different ways of going for that. You are talking about going literally just get, still, get present notice, don't make judgements, and then you can explore, go and find different, and eventually you'll find it. I'm talking about saying, look, we can download from a higher level of mind, and that mind can tell you what you need to go and actually tune your perception into. And then there'll be a specific belief, or there'll be a specific intention that allows you to unfold that in moment before you, but there's ways that you could find it.
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Again, you would need to have the desire, but it's literally just finding that right Instagram filter, that's all it is. Once you find that filter, because your perception is always filtered, it's always biased, it's always preferentially biased to whatever you believe, which is made up by what you want. Well, if you actually start with, I just want joy, like you said, step four, like you, there's always, always a way to look to feel good. Well, you need to want for that. And if you look for it, if you want for it, you've made that first step to going to find it.Speaker 2 (33:09):

Yeah. It'll unpack, won't it? It'll show up. I often talk about the ability to rewire and refire new neural pathways. Would I be correct in expressing this as neuroplasticity in action?Speaker 3 (33:25):

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So neuroplasticity is literally, you have two types of neuro, well, we can say there's two processes to neuro neuroplasticity. So there's functional neuroplasticity and then there's structural neuroplasticity. So functional neuroplasticity is you can have existing pathways between neurons that are largely dormant, not used too often, and so you can send electrical signals down these different pathways that aren't habitually used. And so by these electrical signals going down these unfamiliar pathways, you can create a different experience and you can create new levels of function. If you do that over a period of time, then a period of time could be as short as a couple of weeks. Well, then you begin to build ization. You begin to build new tree roots growing out. And so new connections between neurons and real structural tra change in the brain and you have that available to you.
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Everybody has that available all the time. You've got that available until you take your last breath. And then within that you've got two different ways to two different branches that you can work towards. You have maladaptive neuroplasticity and adaptive neuroplasticity. So maladaptive neuroplasticity is what you talk about with say, a jarring experience, like a trauma of some kind, where you have a really fearful experience of some kind. And then because you've had this fearful perception, will you go and shift your perception about the world. And you are literally, your brain shifts, your brain chemistry shifts, you build new pathways around this fearful experience and the belief that the world's a scary place and bad things can happen, and you understand the world that way and you build a brain that allows you to maintain that experience. That's maladaptive neuroplasticity because that will come with all manner of different symptoms that people experience in trauma.
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Adaptive neuroplasticity, you would have with via focused attention. Once you get past about the age of 25, we lose what we call passive neuroplasticity, which is what kids have. So kids just, they learn like sponges because they're just, they're passive. They can passively just absorb things in and they'll just make new connections in the brain. You and I need to apply more focus attention. If we apply focused attention, then we can build all those new pathways, but we need to pay attention. And so novelty is key for that. If you're actually paying attention to new things or you're being truly present in the moment, well, the brain has to figure it out. It has to figure out what's going on. And as it's doing that, it'll make these new connections and you can rewire the brain.Speaker 2 (35:32):

Yeah, fabulous stuff. When we talk about neuroplasticity, what's the connection there with the central nervous system?Speaker 3 (35:40):

Well, so the central nervous system is your brain and then your spinal cord. And so literally it's that the classic understanding of the body is that the brain and the spinal cord are literally firing out electrical and electric, electric chemical signals. And so the medical scientific understanding of the body largely focuses on this chemical communication, hardwired molecular communication. And so it looks at the spinal nerves, innovating muscles and innovate and innovating, autonomic nervous, the entire autonomic nervous system and driving function to all of that. Now, the different circuits that fire in the brain are going to produce different patterns in the body, and that will all fire, that will be expressed out through the central nervous system. So you can change the brain, you can change the way that the brain is operating, where you can literally hold the perception of peace, build a brain that allows you to maintain the feelings that go with peace, and then that'll be expressed through the physiology.
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But you could do the exact same thing to the opposite. If you are live in fear, live in trauma, you'll literally have fight or flight. And that will again be expressed through the body, but it'll largely understood via the nervous system in terms of the hardwired communication that comes out of the spinal nerves or the unmyelinated fibers, the unmyelinated nerves, nerve fibers that go out to innovate the autonomic nervous system. And so it's understood via those hardwired connections. But you have what we call an extracellular matrix. The extracellular matrix is like the body's wifi and the body's wifi system that exists. It's an information field and everything is in communication all the time, and it's instantaneous. It's much faster, it's much faster communication and goes down those hardwired pathways. And so you can be touching the pinky thing, the pinky toe, and you're literally connecting, connecting with the entire body. And so that was my first experience. That was my experience of understanding how the nervous system actually worked was going in via the extracellular matrix because I was understanding and learning about the body not via that electric, chemical communication. Yes, we're paying attention to it, but I was understanding it more through just purely electricity, just the electric, the electrical signals, which is what is running in that extracellular matrix all the time.Speaker 2 (37:46):

Fascinating stuff. And when it comes to changing our subconscious programs, what part of the brain are we actually activating?Speaker 3 (37:54):

I don't think it'd be right to say that we're limiting to just one part of the brain or just one or two parts of the brain. The brain is the brain's responsive. And so it's like if we say mind is in every cell of the body and mind exists within the body and beyond the body, I don't think it'll be right for us to try and limit it. Limit where the mind exists. So mind is infinite. Infinite means there's no limits. So the brain is responsive, the brain is, the brain is a filter or reducing valve for infinite consciousness. And so the mind exists in one that's with that infinite consciousness and the brain is transducing those signals, and then we're understanding it through the physical body. And so when you go and change the subconscious mind, the brain is the brain's going to adapt to that.
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The brain is going to transduce those signals and then produce different feedback in the body for you. Now, largely we understand that the way we look to try and understand that, and I think it's probably right to, it's probably right to give the understanding that when we're trying to understand that, we're trying to understand that through a paradigm or a system that's got some hardwired institutional imperatives about it, and that those institutional imperatives about these different brain areas and how they function. So we would say, if you're changing the subconscious mind and these different programs, well then we say, well, that has to go through the subconscious mind. The only way you're going to change that would be then if you eventually experience it through the conscious mind, which we say exists in the prefrontal cortex, and that's your executive center, and that's where you do all your higher processing and thinking, yes, that's absolutely going to change.
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Your experience changes there, but is it limited to that or is there more that's happening out beyond that? Well and truly open to just allowing that to be whatever it actually wants to be. The way that I try and work with people is to look to just give the greatest change in truth, I don't really care how the brain's actually going to function, as long as you're hitting the greatest change. If prefrontal cortex is firing more appropriately and giving and literally firing and activating and functioning in its highest true estate, hey, amazing. But if you are just experiencing joy and peace, well, if it's happening there or if it's happening in a different lobe, I'm absolutely fine with that. I don't mind which part of the brain is upleveling as long as you are. Experience of life is changing for the better. Yes. That's the short we're here for. Yeah. So I think it's wrong necessary to limit it to specific brain areas, but just understand that there's still so much that we just don't understand. That's probably the thing. So go to wherever the results, literally change the programs, look at the results, find out what works, and then over time we'll understand it down the track, we'll understand it, but trying to understand it by driving attention to one specific area that's kind of only paying attention to those limited rules within those institutional imperatives. So that's not the way that I'd focus on things.Speaker 2 (40:37):

It's more about self as the person and stepping into the feelings of the change that you would really like to take place. So whatever takes place up here to affect that change for you to then feel differently and act differently and be differently. Don't get too connected to what takes place up here. Just go with whatever takes place to allow that change to happen, to allow that new program to come into your being, as I would callSpeaker 3 (41:11):

It. Yes, don't waste energy and frustration, trying to understand things that are beyond your comprehension. Yeah, you're not asked to do that. And I guess the one that I, and this probably just makes more sense. This is something that I give to people all the time. I always say, learning can only truly take place in the conditions where learning's truly possible. And that's you living it, you experiencing the change, that's how you're truly going to experience. So I'm always saying, we can just take you to your result. We can just go to that highest level, highest version of self. You don't need to know how you get there. Let's see, you have no interest. You don't really need to know how you get there. You don't need to know what's actually changed, but just go and live it. Just go and be there. And if you can just be at that new level of life or by living it over top, your subconscious mind will already understand it.
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Your subconscious mind know exactly what's going on. It might take a little bit of time for your conscious mind to catch up. And the conscious mind will catch up by noticing, because you'll be at that level of life. Your conscious mind will just notice little things and little changes, and eventually you'll have a light bulb moment where the conscious mind goes, oh, I get it now, right now. Now I understand how I did this. Now I understand what's changed. And that's exactly the same in the brain. It's like we can just go to that new level and then just witness, just notice. And then we can understand what's actually changed. But by trying to go the reverse, by trying to impose intellectual understanding on the process and say, no, no, we're only going to go forward if we can understand how we affect the change. Well, again, trying to understand something that's beyond comprehension. We're just building a wall, we're just building a block. We're just going to limit ourselves. So I go the form rather than the latter. That would be my approach.Speaker 2 (42:42):

And the subconscious mind as we know it learns through repetition. So if we can be in that repetitive cycle of leaves after we've made some shifts and then that becomes repetitive, well that's a new program that will then take, so then at some point, as you say, there's an aha moment or it's, I'm constantly feeling different about myself be because that's, you've just allowed the work to take place to allow that program to become your new program. And that's an interesting thing to share with people. And I try to just not explain too much about it, but just talk about, well, who I'm being and how I got to where I am and where I'm at at my level of consciousness and my new beliefs and the shifts that I've been able to make in myself to bring me into this place. And what's your thoughts around our generational trauma? Is there the belief that generational trauma is passed on through dna?Speaker 3 (43:51):

Yeah, there is, absolutely. But again, that's how science understands it. That's how it's understood, because it's like the means that we're using to try and test. So we're using hardwired molecular, molecular testing where's literally we're looking, looking at DNA and saying, well, look, we can evidence it in the DNA and we can see that it's gone back. And it's like, so they've noticed that it's now been evidence that it's go, they've evidenced generational trauma going back to several generations and being passed down by sperm. And it's like they can see a mechanism there, they can see how that's being passed down. But I work with generational trauma and there's no limit to it. There's no limit to how far back it can go. And it's an amazing, amazing theme because it's like you can literally heal everyone in the family system. And I've had these incredible experiences with people where you are healing one person, something in a generational trauma comes up, and then they're getting feedback from other family members who were absolutely not involved in any way, shape or form in the healing that we've just gone and done.
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And they're having, they're getting feedback. One story I remember that was just really, really cool was with a woman. Her, she's, she was a grandma. She's a young grandma. She's like in her forties still. But she was saying she went and did this generational trauma and healing and then that's what came up for us. And then she said she was just feeling light and she said like, everything's just feeling great. And I've been feeling cloudy, but now I feel like I've got clarity. And then she said her daughter, one of her daughter was like 19 I think, and living with her, she said her daughter was walking around and just kept saying, I just feel so productive, mom. This is amazing. I dunno what's going on. I was just feeling great. And then she said, I said, she was like, okay, that's different. That's interesting.
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And then she said, she got a mess. She wrote me to this because she was so blown away by it said she wanted to dismiss that because that was something that was outside her belief system, outside her reality. So she was trying not to pay attention to that. But then she said she got a message from her other daughter who lives in Tasmania, and she said this, her daughter had said like, oh mom, I wanted to share with you this amazing thing happened at the park today. We took, whatever the granddaughter's name, who's son a toddler, took her to the park and we just said she was toddling along and this duck came out of the water and was kind of right in front of her. And I went to shoot the duck away and trying to get her past, cause I didn't want. And then a swan came out and the kid kept going back to the duck and the swan and the mum was hooing the animals away.
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But the kid kept going back and she said, mum said, okay, well I'm just going to let this be. And then she said, the duck and the swan were right there. And then just some other ducks came out and the little kid was just there in front of them and she said, then all of a sudden all the birds in the trees all started chirping and singing. And she said it was just this great chorus going on. And the kid was just really happy there in the middle of it. And the mum just said, this was just really bizarre. I dunno what's going on. And whatever it was that happened, I'm not going to try and say that I explain it. Maybe there's an increased surge of energy around the child because that child's experiencing the healing throughout the entire family system. Maybe the animals are perceiving things on a different level and they're able to perceive that.
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I don't, not going to make presumptions about what actually happened, but something clearly happened and the mum sort of wrote back and just said, there's a surge of energy here. And every, I feel lighter and better and more clear. And literally I've got a higher expression of energy causing through me. It feels like it's the same through one daughter. Now, it sounds like my other daughter in Tasmania who's experienced that and the granddaughter's getting it as well. She's like, this is insane. But it's like, that's literally what you can see. Yes. It's an amazing, amazing thing. So yeah. Is it limited to hardwired dna? If it was, then it surely wouldn't go beyond the family system when you just go and heal it in one individual. So there's, I'm sure there's other mechanisms, there's other energetic mechanisms that are literally, that are expressing and passing on these traumas.
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But you can literally be expressing the traumatized stress response of an ancestor and it'll be a behavioral pattern that you just think is you, and you think it's always been you because you've always experienced it. And of course you look and you go, well, I'm just the physical body and so where else could this be coming from? It has to just be me, but it's entirely not you. It's not your, it's not your stress response, it's not. It's literally an ancestral pattern that you are expressing. And then when you go and heal it, or you heal yourself, you heal whatever else is going on in the family system, you even heal the ancestor or whatever level of consciousness that they exist at. But it's a beautiful thing to go into. And yes, it's an amazing thing that now science has evidenced it and can see it even in whatever limited fashion. We understand it, we can understand that it's a thing and healing. It's just really beautifulSpeaker 2 (48:10):

When we talk about energy and frequency and wifi. Well, if you're just open to just allowing energy, frequency and wifi, those types of events for the related parties in a different place just occur.Speaker 3 (48:27):

Yeah, well I think it's that, come back to that not making any decisions. If you don't make any decisions about the self, you're not making a decision that I am limited and I'm in this physical body and that's it. If I'm not making any decisions, then I just say, you know what? Let's just have the greatest result. Let's just get what's perfect. Let's just have what's true. Well, if we do that, well then you are not limiting it. You are not limiting the result to just here. And then it can be whatever it truly wants to be. And again, that's kind of what I experience. And you do notice that with people that they'll come back and tell and it feels like the world's changed and people are speaking to me differently or people are treating me differently. And I've had that with women going away and saying, oh, literally I walked out and I just got two compliments from strangers telling me how attractive I am. Oh, that has to happen in years. Like wow. It's like, yeah, but it's like you can literally change the world around you. And it's like as soon as you stop limiting things by saying, I'm in here, the world's out there, I have no effect on that. The moment you just notice, just accept, just be with what is well, then all of a sudden you're starting to step into that and you can change far more about the world around you.Speaker 2 (49:27):

And a lot of that limitlessness can come through the truth because the truth is just such a, the truth is the truth. And when we live in a, well, I call it an unveiled truth, you just go, okay, truth is the truth just is. And just allow the truth to show itself and then it will can love and fear coexist.Speaker 3 (49:53):

Absolutely not.Speaker 2 (49:54):

Okay, whySpeaker 3 (49:55):

Not? So love is a whole state. Fear is a whole state. You can't be in two whole states, so you're in one or the other. And again, this kind of comes back to exactly what you were just talking about a moment ago with truth, hardest lesson you'll ever learn, hardest lesson you'll ever learn. Truth is true. That's it. It's like, and that doesn't really exist in this world because in this world you've got, well, you can have your truth and that can be true for you. Oh, sorry. On that side of the table, and I can have my truth on this side of the table, but you can't touch mine and I'm not going to argue with yours. That can be there and this other person can have theirs. And there's an unfolding truth and a developing truth and a partial truth. But no, it's what is true is true.
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So which is true, I always say must be absolutely 100% unequivocally true. That would be what, what's true truth would be universal, as in it wouldn't matter who's got it where it is, it's still going to be true. And truth's eternal doesn't change. And so only that is true. And so things are either true or they're not, right. So there's either truth or there's illusion, right? Love's real, love's true. So that's all things are either love or they're not. Right. And in truth, when we get beyond duality, you get beyond the world of opposites. You can just live in love. And that's there. I think if you're trying to understand that, the one thing that I always give to people is say, because we want to step come to that place of acceptance and just that place of, I don't actually know, so I can just be open to just allow, and then things start to change.
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And again, just do that by noticing. But you could just say, if you don't understand love, and this would be true of any invention of any kind, if you don't understand love in the exact same understanding and context as the one who actually created it, will it be fair to say, you dunno what love is like if you understand it just by your own level of understanding, your own level of consciousness? Well, that's largely what you've made up. So you'd be feeling emotions and using that label, but is that really what love actually is? Or is that just something that you've understood and then given that label to? So fear is kind of everywhere in this world and people understand it, understand the world via fear, but love is whole, fear is whole. So either you are wholly and completely in love where there is no fear, or you're still in that whole state where fear exists.
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So where one exists, the other one can't be. And where one comes, the other goes, and one where one goes the other comes. But literally, if you still experience fear, will you not wholly in love, you're not wholly in that state of love and love's healing. Love opens you up to more like it just opens you up to this truth of self and truth of the world and truth of all that you can be and all that, literally all the goodness that you can bring to the world. And that's an amazing, amazing thing. And literally this has been evidence when like cells in love open up to higher expression, cells in love literally facilitate healing cells in fear shut down, and cells in fear literally take you towards sickness and disease and death. And it's like the two don't exist together, they're mutually incompatible. But in the world of opposites, you've got fear and you've got love in the world of just wholeness, just unity. Well, there's only love because the truth is there is no, there's nothing to fear. This is, and that's what you're doing. That's with all this noticing all this, getting to the present moment, all this healing, that's where you're going. You're just trying to get to this place where you can see truth and understand there is actually nothing to fear. And when there's nothing to fear sin, you've just got love.Speaker 2 (53:11):

And when you're in that state of love, it puts you into a state of flow. And that state of flow is just an energetic flow of peace, joy, love, happiness, wellbeing and wellbeing within yourself. It is, like you say, if you held hold onto things in a fear-based world that can not only be put you in a state of dise but can also lead to disease. So where would you rather be in a state of fear or a love and joy?Speaker 3 (53:45):

Yeah, same thing. And this is something I'm saying to people all the time, is that ultimately it comes down to what do you want comes down to what do you want? Every life is just, it's a moment to, it's a series of moment to moment choices. It's just this, it is unending never ending series of moment to moment choices. And if you become intentional about what you want, if you just want for love, will there be choices for love? In every single moment you don't realize it. But if you're actually at a deep level wanting for fear, make those choices. And again, if you don't realize it, well then it sounds really jarring and it doesn't sounds, doesn't sound nice when someone says to you, Hey, look, you're actually choosing this. You're actually, you're actually making this situation. But go back to perception. And perception has one law, there's one law, there's one rule for perception and all other rules and laws literally come back to this.
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So if you can get it, you can change your whole world. And most peoples, nearly everyone uses their perception upside down. As in you just go through life perceiving whatever you perceive feeling, whatever you feel based on what you've perceived. So because you've seen something and you've felt something, then you say, well, that's definitely true because I saw it and I felt it. Right? But that's completely upside down. Your perception's limited. It's fragmented, it's biased. It's literally just made by your belief system and what you desire. So the one law rule is you can only perceive what you believe your belief system makes your perception, you can only perceive what you believe is actually there in the first place. So your belief system makes the perception and it's designed to go out there and just confirm for you that what you believe is right. You're only going to perceive the things that you actually believe are there and available to be perceived, but you only believe what you want.
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You're never going to believe what you don't want. So literally, you can only perceive what you believe. You only believe what you want, which means it's your desire. It's a deep desire within you, not your conscious desire. If you're in pain or you're living with anxiety or fear of depression, you are consciously not wanting for those things. But we're talking about desires that exist way below the conscious level of awareness. So whatever you are experiencing, and this is true always, it doesn't, no matter how random or how unjust it seems, and again, how this all works may be at maybe via mechanisms at a level way beyond your level of consciousness and awareness. But whatever you are experiencing, it's always, always an outside picture of your inner desires. This is literally, you can't experience the world outside your own mind. The entire world takes place in your mind.
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Literally the entire world takes place in your mind because everything you experience is your perception. And your perception is made by what you believe, what you believe is only maintained by what you want. So literally just comes back to those desires. So it literally comes back to what do you want? And the instant that you are willing to embrace that and just say, okay, this feels pretty crappy. So this is not what I consciously want for, okay, well if it's me that's making this, how do I change it? Because if they're your desires, you have to be empowered to be able to change 'em. So instantly you're empowered to just go and change everything. And it's such an amazing thing to come to because then you could reach out to someone like yourself, reach out to someone like myself, reach out to someone who can show you something different, and you could change everything because they're your desires.Speaker 2 (56:42):

It's that personal responsibility to just come back and say, well, I'm personally responsible for where I am and what I'm perceiving.Speaker 3 (56:51):

Well, it's empowerment. It's like, because it's never a blame thing. It's never like, oh, you did this wrong and it's bad and you're suffering. So you are responsible a hey, did you actually know that you are the one that makes the world? Did she know that you are that powerful? Right? You are that powerful. If you want to make something new and different, hey, let me help you. I'll show you how to do this. That's the thing. It's like at the instance that you embrace that where you just became empowered to go and change the whole world, right? That's such a cool thing.Speaker 2 (57:16):

Yeah. Thank you. Fascinating conversation. And I certainly hope that our, and I know that our listeners will be getting so much value from today's talk, so it, it's just feels so beautiful. So thank you for what you're contributing. And myself, I'm now a certified breath work coach, and I'm curious to know your thoughts when it comes to breath work and the effects on the brain.Speaker 3 (57:40):

So this is the thing, so for me, I have for a long time now just tried to live intuitively and I've got different feedback processes and mechanisms to be able to understand it more precisely. But I've tried to just live from that high level of mind. So live from that level of mind that knows what is, knows the truth, knows who you are, knows what you want, knows what you need in the moment. And breath work's something that's always fascinated me. I've always had an interest in it. It's like, and it's always felt like, no, there's something there. There's something there that's, there must be something powerful or something that's valuable there. But every time I've gone to look at it, it's like, no, not yet. It's not there. It's not what you need right now. And so I've just left it and then it wasn't until, you know, popped up, came into my awareness as like, ah, this individual's got something really valuable to share.
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Okay, we need to get together. So, which is exactly how we've come to this space, space today. So as I understand it, my limited understanding of breathwork, having never been a breath breathwork practitioner and only done really limited dabblings in breathwork myself, the way that I understand it now is that you can actually direct breath to be guided and in tune with that infinite intelligence. And you can use the breath, you can use your breath to take you to these deep places, and you can access memories, and you can access things that are stored in the somatic nervous system and you know, can unfold a whole bunch of different things. And so I think probably when you talk about the effects on the brain, well, it would largely depend on where that breath is taking you. Because if you are using the breath to go down a journey where you're going to be planning to, you're intentional about uncovering some old traumas, will the brain's going to have some responses to that and then experience peace when you let it all go, or you might be using that breath to take you to somewhere that just, it's really synchronous and perfectly beautiful for where you're truly meant to be right now.
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And again, the brain's going to reflect a very different picture of that. So again, I think the breath is a way to, I think access the body, help get people, get past themselves, get past those habitual patterns. And if we're talking about the brain, those habitual patterns are the habitual firing patterns, the habitual brain areas that you just use to literally just do life. And you, as I understand it, and I think this is one of the things that I find so fascinating about it, is that you can use the breath to just guide you past that and get the habitual self, get all those patterns and programs out of the way so you can access something different, access something more.Speaker 2 (59:53):

Yeah, it's been such a journey for myself, and that's why I wanted to go deeper with the breath work. And look, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a scientist. I don't have a lot of, there are facts that, and scientific facts that are starting to back up breath work and the power of breath work. And for me, it with being just such a holistic thing that we can do anywhere, anytime, I just thought, well, part of our journey here at 100 breaths is we never set out to be world famous. We just set out to make a world famous difference. And now by me becoming certified and being able to coach people and guide people through some deep journeys as well, I've had people go through some deep somatic breath work journeys and it's been really transformational for them. And I've also helped guide some people on just learning some simple techniques of breath work that can help them change state really within a couple of minutes. And that's quite powerful as well because we know we're helping them to have that shift. So been it, it's just fascinates me and I want to learn more. And talking to you today is obviously helping us understand more about how we function and what's taking place. And we hear about electrical charge running through our body, and you've shared a bit about that us today, that with us today, what's your take on groundingSpeaker 3 (01:01:19):

Grounding's? Fantastic. So we say, and again, this is how I learned the brain learnt the nervous system was via bioelectricity. And so bioelectricity underpins everything in the nervous system. And anywhere you have dysfunction, anywhere you have pain anywhere, you have instantly, anywhere that you have an injury, there'll be an altered bioelectric charge. Now, when you're dealing with stress, you can, if there's, and again, it's like you say, anywhere there's a blockage. If there's a blockage, you're going to have an accumulation behind that blockage. So anywhere that you have an accumulation of stress or you're accumulating altered bioelectric charge or there's incoherent signaling in the body or this inco incoherent signaling in the body, you're going to have incoherent function, you're going to have reduced function, you're going to have suboptimal function in the body. So grounding's an amazing thing where you can literally just equilibriate the autonomic nervous system tone.
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I call the electrical tone of the body with the earth. And the earth exists at Schumann resonance, which is about the same in terms of brainwaves. It's about an alpha state, it's about, it's literally about the alpha state of mine or alpha state of brainwaves. So you can literally just equilibriate the autonomic nervous system, which was means when you step your bare feet on the earth, or if you get a grounding device and you sleep on a grounding device, or you put your hands on a pad and lengthy key when you're typing on your desk or you put your feet on a the ground, you can literally just balance out the bioelectricity in the body and just bring yourself back to homeostasis. You can bring yourself back to balance, you can reduce stress. And for that reason, grounding is anti-inflammatory because again, the earth is rich in electrons. And so to be health, for tissues to be healthier, they need to maintain a net negative charge. And so when you are literally stepping on the earth, you're equilibria equilibriate in the electrical tone of the body with that of the earth, but you're also receiving electrons, which makes the tissues more negative, which means they're healthier. And so when they're healthier, again, you're going to have find there's less, there's less inflammation. And that's, again, all really, really healthy things to be healthy practices to be exploring.Speaker 2 (01:03:14):

And that's been scientifically proven now as well. The grounding greatly reduces inflammation and inflammation as we know it is a major contributor to overall health issues. So I look to ground quite often. I'll just walk across the road and take my shoes off and just walk and just ground and as you say, grounding match, grounding blankets, grounding keypad pads and stuff. It's fascinating. But once again, it's a healing modality, which is just available to anyone, anywhere.Speaker 3 (01:03:52):

Yeah. And it's, look, it's different. It's things that have probably been laughed at for a long period of time and called as woo were, but you could literally go and hug a tree, and that's now scientifically evidenced as being beneficial, you knows that's literally grounded. Go and hug a tree and you'll literally help your health.Speaker 2 (01:04:06):

And we teach Ari to do that. So go and hug that tree mate. Give the tree a hug. Yeah. And off he goes and hugs a tree and really cute, beautiful stuff. Is there such a thing as the heart, brain?Speaker 3 (01:04:17):

Yes, absolutely. So your heart has a cluster of about 40,000 neurons. And so they're different. Their brain cells, they're different, they're different their cells, and it's like they're known. It's interesting. So we now know that we call the cardiac ganglia where so scientifically evidence, you have with, you've got these cardiac gang, cardiac ganglia, these neurons in the heart. But in historical terms, in spiritual teachings, these cells in the heart, they're known as truth cells, they're known as, and they're connected to truth. So it's like, and the amazing thing about the heart, brain is the heart. It challenges, it's literally challenged and even reversed our understanding of the cortical brain because the heart brain sends more information to the cortical brain than the cortical brain sends to the heart, which again, challenges our understanding because again, for a long time we've understood that the cortical brain, the brain in your head, that's the control center, that's the governing center.
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So that's the one that should be sending out more communication to everywhere, sending out the commands and the orders and telling everything in the body how it's supposed to function. But it turns out there's this one little center, there's this heart, brain which is sending way more information to the cortical brain and telling it what to do and how to respond than the other way around. And it's like, so your heart is, and that's comes back to that expression that the brain thinks, but the heart knows. And it's like for when you ground, when you slow down, when you breathe, when you get yourself present, you just get back to noticing that heart as an intuitive center is a really powerful place to go and let your attention come to rest because you can get true intuitive feedback there. You can get far more true intuitive feedback through your heart than you can potentially get through your brain. So that's something that's probably a lot easier for people to go on and do. If they're looking to try and explore intuitive processes or increase their intuitive capacity, that's a great place to go and start.Speaker 2 (01:05:58):

Yeah, yeah. And if we think of the heart from the evolution of the embryotic stage, well, the heart is developed first, isn't it?Speaker 3 (01:06:07):

So the, it's interesting where the sperm sperms head literally penetrates the ovum that point. That's where the cortical brain forms, it's quite a, it is an amazing thing. It's like where that sperm penetrates the egg first. That's where your cortical brain forms. So wherever on that em, it lands, that's where the brain starts.Speaker 2 (01:06:29):

And there's also a connection with the gut brain. So what's the connection with the, we call it a gut-brain axis as it's referred to.Speaker 3 (01:06:37):

So you have the enteric nervous, so you've got your central nervous system, or you can say you've got your cortical brain, you've got your cardiac ganglia or your heart brain, and you've got the enteric nervous system, which is your gut brain. And so the gut brain has got about a hundred million neurons. And again, so these neurons are sending feedback. And so people, you can, and the way that I work with the brain, the way that I understand it perhaps best is you can have emotional trauma stored in the gut. And so people use the gut for feedback and you say, I've got a gut feeling about this, or a gut feeling about that. And yeah, you're getting information through there. Absolutely. And again, it's another intuitive center that you can use and you can tap into. But the enteric nervous system, it's quite an amazing thing.
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And this is where you say the system's so highly evolved and it's, it's just an incredible thing, the limbic brain. So the limbic brains, your emotional brain, and that's where you'll store all of your traumas, your traumas and your emotions will all be stored in the limb brain. Lemme brain remembers everything. Now, all of those traumas, they take up space. They take up space on the hard drive. So the way that the brain has evolved is it literally can store file links. It can store links to files that are stored in an offsite, hard, hard drive, or literally a cloud storage, which is what the enteric nervous system is. And you can access traumas and emotional traumas and other stressful events that are all stored in that inic nervous system. And it's literally, the limbic braid is now just holding a link that you can access and that'll take you down to the trauma that's stored there, and then you can go on healer through there. And I find that such an amazing thing, but it's just so intelligent. It's like it's the brain's not bogging itself down by hanging onto all this extra information when it can just store it offsite. And I find that just a fascinating thing.Speaker 2 (01:08:13):

And that's when we feel in different parts of our body, as you say, having a external hard drive, but it's actually internal within. So thank you for that because I did a bit of research around that. And as you say, we get a gut feel on things. And so that, let's think about it. Now we know we've got our mind, our brain up here, and then we've got our heart brain, but we've also got the gut brain that comes into play as well. Who were two of your mentors and what did they instill in you?Speaker 3 (01:08:49):

So I, for a long time was seeking out and searching for mentors and searching for people to teach me, and how can I get to this next level? How can I get to, I guess I had a projection in my mind about how I was going to be truly helpful. And it was quite amazing because for a long time I kept getting this feedback, this intuitive feedback just like, no, no, mate, no, it's within you. You need to go within and find it. And unfolded there. And the way that I understood learning was via someone by being taught. So I didn't have a process. I didn't to go and unfold that. So it was like I resisted that for a long time, and I was really seeking out different teachers, and I wasn't until I went within and began to truly understand how to learn, how to unfold these processes, how to unfold the intelligence that permeates the system.
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And then it really, thing's start to take off. But for me, there's a guy by the name of David Fleming who just beautiful human being, amazing creative mind. So he's the creative genius behind applied movement neurology. I learned so much from him. He was an absolutely just a beautiful human being and a really wonderful creative mind. And he was so kind and generous with me in his time. And I remember as I was learning, I remember him saying to me a few times that there was myself and one other, and another guy in the UK who just seemed to get, his system just seemed to this whole way of seeing the body and seeing the mine and seeing the neurology via bioelectricity as I described it, I just got, it just made sense. And he, he's just reinforcing it from me saying, it's like, yeah, you're just understanding this to a different level.
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And I can remember him saying to me very early on, he's like, yeah, it's not long, mate. You're going to be creating stuff, like you're going to be diving in and you're going to be figuring stuff out and you'll be making applications. And I remember the first time he said that, and you're like, it's never going to happen. How's that going to happen? Oh, belief system. Yeah. And then exactly. I remember having the conversation with him when I'd put together this program called Neuro Flexibility, and we're putting that together and they were going to fly me over to the UK to t-shirt and everything. And I said, I refreshed that with him, said, I remember you telling me that. It's like, it's not going to be long. And I shook my head and said, shit, it's not going to happen. And it's like, yeah, and here we are.
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So yeah, he opened up, he really helped open up so much in me, but then I would say the next one literally comes from within. It's like, it's literally that intelligence that comes from something that's comes from the field, and everybody has it. Everybody has that within their own mind. And for me, it was learning how to step back and stop seeking for teaching externally and stop seeking for learnings and books and podcasts and actually just go within. And I'll just share with you the story that jolted me down that path was I had been intuitively getting that sta feedback that I was saying for quite some time about, no mate, stop going and looking for teachers. And it's not a, it's in here. Stop going out there. Just stop looking forSpeaker 2 (01:11:47):

The answers.Speaker 3 (01:11:48):

And that had been happening for quite a while. And then I was teaching on a retreat in Bali, and as part of that, I was doing the healing for a lot of people. And so I'd kind of gotten to the end of treating everybody, and I just put my hand up and said, look, I wouldn't mind some help. If someone wants to do something on me, that'd be nice. And this one woman said she'd help. And I knew that she was very connected spiritually, and she always had these stories of hearing different voices and she'd talk to animals and she'd all these amazing things that I was just really fascinated by. Didn't understand it at all. But I said, I look, yeah, I'd love to do a session with you if you are prepared to help. And she said, look, sure, because what I do is very different to what you do.
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And I was like, look, I'm open. Just give it a go. And I'll never forget it because she just said, all right, well look, if you're up for it, I'll help. And then she said, but I'm going to need to talk to that gentleman who's just sitting off your left shoulder. I was like, okay, whatever you reckon, fine, I'm open. And then she just said, she froze for a moment. She was listening to something. And then she just said, so he says, stop it. Just stop. You're running around and you're looking for teachers, and you're looking for mentors and guides, and just stop it. It's in you. Just stop what you're doing and just learn, go within. And it was almost, the tone of voice was exactly the same as what I'd been getting back. And I was like, I can't ignore this. It's even coming from, okay.
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And so that really just jolted me into like, okay, how do I unfold? How do I just actually understand this information that's trying to come out? And then going down that path just unfolded so much more. So I dunno if that's something you can necessarily describe. There's different processes would be one of them. Meditation would be another, mindfulness would be another. All men are different processes that you could use to try and go within and find that. And I guess I have my own that I share with people now as well. But that was the experience that kind of jolted me, really jolted me down to that path to just commit and go. Okay. And so you would say that higher intelligence? Yeah, that's the mentor.Speaker 2 (01:13:43):

Yeah. Yeah, I, I've experienced the same thing. That's how this little book of noticing came about. I had a download when I was laying in hospital bed recovering from an operation. It's just, here it is, here's your book, here's the title of it, here's what it looks like, here's what it feels like. Here's its purpose, here's how it's going to be laid out. And it was just like these dominoes just went, and then it's now tear.Speaker 3 (01:14:12):

And it's an amazing, amazing thing that, yeah, and all you really need to do is just pay attention and just trustSpeaker 2 (01:14:18):

And trust,Speaker 3 (01:14:19):

Pay attention and just trust. And maybe that first time the trust feels a little more challenging cause you don't feel like you've got any evidence to support back up your faith. But just faith in truth and just go with it. And it's do it once and then you don't really ever need to doubt again. You just kind of know. And as long as you're just slowing down to just be present and just actually pay attention to what's truly trying to come to you, not what you are hoping or wanting to actually come to you and you're not biasing the information in any way, well then, yeah, you can just live that way. You can be intuitively guided and you can receive these downloads that just give you everything. And yeah, I've experienced a lot of that myself as well.Speaker 2 (01:14:56):

Pretty cool stuff. Couple of questions for you, just some one word answers, introvert or extrovert?Speaker 3 (01:15:04):

I would say omni vert. Omni.Speaker 2 (01:15:05):

OmniSpeaker 3 (01:15:06):

Vert. So again, I would probably try not to put labels on things. So I guess me open to everything, I guess. I grew up thinking I was an extrovert, loved being, loved being on the stage as a kid, loved being, just being in front of the camera as a kid. But then as I've kind of grown out, I love a love stillness and love a quiet space as well. And I guess my value is being able to connect with everyone. My value is being able to truly connect with everyone, to be able to be truly helpful. So you would need to have an open frequency. If I guess if I labeled myself as one or the other, then I'd probably, I could only help 50%. Yeah. SoSpeaker 2 (01:15:42):

Yeah. Okay. Well what about this one? Pessimist or optimist? No,Speaker 3 (01:15:48):

Labels, of course. Yeah, no labels, I guess. I think so. I guess the truth, truth is this. So what, whatever's true, it's that whatever's actually true. And again, I guess the pessimist or optimist comes from, it comes from the world of opposites that you're one or the other. But again, this is what I'm giving to people all the time, is that there's only that which is true, and most people are really happy to acknowledge. Yeah. Well, most people are really happy to acknowledge, well, the universe is perfect. What I'm experiencing is pretty, feels pretty yuck at the moment. But the universe is perfect. And well, yeah, the universe is perfect. And if we want to get there, well, we would just need to be with what's true and be with what's true is just go back to that noticing. Just go back to being still and just allow. So do I need to be pessimistic or optimistic about that? No, actually I can have a knowing can have, knowing that this just all works out. I can just be with that. So no truth. Somewhere in there, somewhere in the middle, something like that.Speaker 2 (01:16:44):

All right, what about this one? Lover ofSpeaker 3 (01:16:46):

Lover. Of lover ofSpeaker 2 (01:16:47):

Truth, lover of truth,Speaker 3 (01:16:49):

Lover of truth, absolutely.Speaker 2 (01:16:50):

Totally agree. Believer ofSpeaker 3 (01:16:54):

Real reality. Believer of real reality. Again. So again, and that comes back to that hardest lesson you ever learned is only that which is true is actually true. So real reality, whatever that is, that'd be what's true. So when we talk about the perfect universe, when we talk about the true self being perfect, true self is always peaceful, joyous, abundant, loving, all the time. Well, if that's true, then that must take place in real reality. So whatever real reality is, that'd be the truth. That'd be what's true. And then anything else, anything else you're experiencing? If you're experiencing stress or if you're experiencing fear, if you're experiencing hurt or pain, well, none of those things could take place in real reality, because in real reality, there's only that which is perfect. So there's no pain in perfection. There's no fear in that perfection. If you're peaceful and imperfect and abundant forever, well, you couldn't be hurt.
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So that couldn't exist there. So if you've experienced fear or pain or anything that's imperfect, well, that must be an unreality. So okay, I'll place my value on real reality, let's go to that. And so then there'll always be a way that you can find it. And again, you would have to have a belief in it first to be able to build a perception that would allow you to perceive it and experience it. And again, to have that belief, you would first need to have the desire you would need to want. But yeah, that'll be me. So yeah, real reality.Speaker 2 (01:18:08):

Yeah. Thank you. And do you have a morning or a daily routine?Speaker 3 (01:18:12):

I do. Ish. Yeah. So again, I try not to give power to things because anything that you give power to then has power over you controls. So yeah, it's, and again, something like food. Food can be really amazing and helpful, and people eat these different regimes and different to different routines. And yes, we've understand that certain types of food can be incredibly beneficial, but if you place all your faith in food, well, if suddenly that food's not available or you can't get the right quantity or can't get what you want, well then you're going to notice that your health goes down because you've placed this belief and this power in this food. And then if you can't get it, well things go wrong. And so I have routines, I have things that are kind of beneficial, but my understanding is that everything in your experience, everything in your body, everything comes from mind.
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So if everything comes from mind, then really in theory, if you're prepared to just be this present, it wouldn't really matter what you're experiencing or what you're doing. There would always be a way that you could set your mind to just experience what's peaceful and what's perfect. So yes, I do and do a bunch of things that I understand to be helpful. And that's just easy. I'll go and jump in the pool and sit in some cold water and then go and do some meditation first thing in the morning. And that's great. But I just do that cause I like it. I do it cause it's good. And when I was just having this conversation last night being asked, well, what about if your mind is everything, and that's more powerful than food, more powerful than these other processes, does that mean you could just go and eat McDonald's every day and just be healthy and fine?
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Well, that's not something I have an interest in. But there are literally people out there who don't eat food at all, and they survive. They're literally somehow surviving, not eating any food at all. They're existing on a higher level and manifesting, or they're energy from somewhere. Now do I want to do that? Not really. You do. I want to go on eat McDonald's every day, not really. Do I want to go and expend the energy and the attention to try and set my mind so that I can still be at peace and have perfect biological and digestive function, eating that processed food every day? No, not really. So I'll just go and eat what feels good, yeah, feels good, feels healthy, go on, do my meditation, go and jump in some cold water, go have a surf, go run on the beach, spend some time in the forest.
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And all that feels good. And it just feels effortless. It feels easy. And again, that comes back to what we talked about earlier, real reality, opposes nothing. So I'll just make the effort to meet with the conditions of real reality, which is no opposition, just find that effortlessness, find what's peaceful, find what's easy. And so again, funnily enough, a lot of those processes where you're just eating some decent food, getting in some cold water, doing some meditation, just have some loving emotions with others, go hug a tree. Funnily enough, all that feels really effortless and your life unfolds pretty perfectly. So that that'll be, that's more my routine. Yeah,Speaker 2 (01:20:59):

And that's a great way to explain it. Thank you. I always finish off my podcast with a question to my guests. So Scott Robinson, who are you breathing for today and why?Speaker 3 (01:21:12):

Breathing for one, when we say one. So breathing for one is in, there's no separation. We all exist in oneness. So anything that, any benefit that I can bring to me, benefits everyone. Anything that I can bring and benefit into this room benefits me, benefits you, benefits everyone. So breathing for one, breathe for oneness. And again, then you're breathing for oneness. I'm not breathing for that fear or love thing, I'm just breathing for just that whole state, which is just love. So if I'm breathing, then it's like that universal benefit for all. So whenever I do the breathing's intuitively taking me towards benefit for all, well then that's perfect.Speaker 2 (01:21:50):

Yeah, I love that. And it, I've found that question that I asked my guest, just one that always just something a little bit differently. And I love that oneness because that's, at the end of the day, we're all connected in some way, shape, or form. And it's what you've shared with us about today about the brain and our physiology and all different aspects of what's going on has really been a fascinating conversation. So I thank you for coming into the studio to just unpack some things with us. And a couple of takeaways for me is that trauma is attached to a belief. Well, lots of things attached to your beliefs. So you can change your beliefs and you can have bring some peace into your life, and you can only perceive what you believe. So once again, if you can change your belief, your perception can be totally different, changeSpeaker 3 (01:22:42):

Everything,Speaker 2 (01:22:42):

And it can change everything. And it is possible for anybody, absolutely anybody. That's my take on the world as I see it or my take on me is I see it what's possible for anyone else. And that's why I do what I do here at a hundred breaths and through our wellness side of our business. And interesting for me, coming from a history of being a collision repair expert and an entrepreneur in the collision repair industry, to stepping into where I felt my passion was taking me to be able to guide and help and just give. And it just feels so amazingly, right? Yeah,Speaker 3 (01:23:28):

It's very cool what you're doing. And if I can share just on that takeaway that you've taken there with the trauma and the belief. So there's only that which is true, and everything else is illusion. So it's either that which is true or it's not so truth or illusion. And again, when you're saying about the belief, and it's like anyone can shift their belief. If the belief, if the trauma has to come from belief, when you can shift the belief where you can change anything, and the way that you, so again, if what's true is perfect, well, there's no trauma in what's perfect. So where you're experiencing the trauma and the pain, that has to be an illusion because that's exist in truth. Now, the way you dissolve an illusion, any illusion, is simply by looking at it without protecting it. That's it. That's all you need to do.
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And like we said before, when people are asking questions that are not honest questions, making statements of perspective that protects the illusion, you're putting up your own defense around saying, well, this is bad. How am I going to change it? Well, that's a defense. The instant that you're willing to look on these things without actually protecting them, there's nothing you can't change. It can all shift. And so that's such a beautiful, such simple thing. It's all you need to do is literally be willing to look upon illusions, which is anything that's imperfect. Be willing to look upon those things just without protecting them. Remove all your protection. It can't stand on its own. The only thing that makes an illusion exist is the infinite power of your belief system. And the reason why you feel the hurt or the pain or the stress or the anxiety or anything is because you are so limitlessly powerful. And if you give the infinite power of your belief system to an illusion, well, you will absolutely experience all the effects of that illusion 100% as if it's real because you are so powerful. But the instant that you take all your power back and say, well, I'm not going to protect it anymore, the illusion has no power of its itself. Cause it's an illusion. And so it'll dissolve. So it's a simple thing to take away and can just, if you get that, you can start ipl, start implementing that today.Speaker 2 (01:25:16):

Yeah, that is a absolutely beautifully powerful way to finish off today's conversation. And we'll share all of your contact details up on our socials and everywhere else do the whatever takes place out there in this world that we live in with getting information to everyone. And we can't thank you enough for just joining us and sharing, having this great conversation that we've had here today on 100 Breath with Gavin McGee. So Scott Robinson, thank you.Speaker 3 (01:25:44):

I'm very, very grateful. So thanks so much for having me. It's been a beautiful conversation. And yeah, I hope that if you've listened, if you listen this far, you absolutely have my gratitude. And I hope that you take something really beautiful and valuable out of it. And I always encourage, because if we've expanded the mind, if we've touched on a few things that you'd never listened to or heard before, come back in three months, six and just listen to it again. And you may find you're able to understand it at a different depth, a different level. And you may find there's just a whole other level of information here and available for you.Speaker 2 (01:26:13):

And it only takes one little thing. It could be just one sentence that that just makes you sit up a little bit. And oh, I'm curious now. And so you might listen for a little bit longer, but for us here at a Hunter, Bruce, we're just about, you've got a ripple effect that you are having out in the community, which is extremely powerful and just helps so many people. And we're about the same thing. Just having that little ripple effect so that we have that universal, all these little ripples joining hands. And I see, and I feel a real awakening in the universe, something different about this year that to me just feels,Speaker 3 (01:26:52):

Eh, it's a beautiful thing. And again, when you think of those ripples, just remember those ripples are non-discussion. You are sending out non-discussion ripples into the universe. It's like they're not dissipating as they go out there. It's like that effect just continues. And when you're intentional about that, well then that drives further, drives further intentional change. And yeah, it's again, beautiful thing to consider. Yeah.Speaker 2 (01:27:13):

Okay. Thank you. There we have it. Gavin McGee, 100 breath. We'll join you next time, or we hope you enjoyed today's podcast.