Mindfulness, Community, and Compassion: A Deep Dive with Rebecca Kelly

In this captivating episode of 100 Breaths, Gavin sits down with community leader and wellness advocate, Rebecca Kelly. 

They delve into mindfulness, perception's nuance, and the community's essence in creating joy and well-being.

Time Stamps:

[00:00] - Warm welcome and introduction to the passionate wellness advocate, Rebecca Kelly.

[03:00] - Rebecca and Gavin dissect the critical difference between noticing and judging, shedding light on how these actions frame our experiences.

[06:25] - They engage in a thoughtful conversation on the human inclination towards perceptual filters and the transformative role of mindfulness in our lives.

[11:30] - Rebecca speaks candidly about her work, and the delight she finds in community building and creating spaces for healing and joy.

[15:45] - A profound reflection ensues as Rebecca contemplates what wisdom she would offer to her younger self.

[20:55] - Gavin and Rebecca discuss ways in which listeners can extend their support to Rebecca's community initiatives.

[25:25] - The conversation concludes with some final reflections and insights from both Rebecca and Gavin.

[29:00] - A poignant moment as Rebecca reveals who she's breathing for today.

Key Takeaways:

1. Noticing and judging are fundamentally different actions that shape our realities, interactions, and lives.
2. We navigate the world through our perceptual filters, but mindfulness offers a way to engage with experiences more authentically, without judgement.
3. Building and fostering community isn't just a passion for Rebecca; it's the heartbeat of her work, where healing, joy, and wellness thrive.
4. Our past selves deserve compassion and wisdom, as our experiences form the foundations of our growth.
5. Engaging and supporting community-driven efforts can contribute to collective growth and wellness.

Episode Conclusion:

In episode # of 100 Breaths, Rebecca Kelly offers profound insights on the impact of mindfulness, the power of community, and the transformative potential of altering perception. Rebecca's anecdotes and reflections inspire listeners to embrace mindfulness, lean into society, and move through life with more compassion and wisdom.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):

Welcome everyone to 100 Breaths, the podcast with Gavin McGahey. Open, raw and empowered conversations that can help everyday people to learn techniques to deal with the challenges of everyday life. And just like most of us out there, I am continually processing the daily challenges that life and business throws at us. So I welcome you to ride with me on this journey of discovery and personal development. Today's special guest is Rebecca Kelly, a vibrant, conscious, movement facilitator, somatic educator, and a soul coach. Rebecca has dedicated her life to the study of embodiment, self-healing, and movement as medicine, the third Australian to achieve near black belt. Rebecca has been practicing near for over two decades supporting women to discover and express their authentic selves, both on and off the dance floor. Through her transformational movement, medicine and soul coaching sessions, she lovingly guides women to connect to their inner power, their intuition, and innate body wisdom.
(01:09)
Rebecca feels blessed to live in Byron Bay in Teachers Weekly near classes in the Kings Cliff and Byron Shire. Rebecca is a highly experienced facilitator offering retreats, masterclass, and play shops in Australia and internationally. For the past decade, Rebecca has offered NIAA at two of Australia's top wellness retreats in the Gold Coast, Eden Health Retreat, which is one of the longest established health retreats in the country. And Gwen Ghana, Australia's largest and most awarded spa location. Rebecca loves to share the power and passion of Nia in the corporate sector with wellbeing workshops and events. Rebecca has presented for a varied client base ranging from the Sydney Chamber of Commerce to the Buttery Addiction Rehabilitation Center. She's also been a presenter at the Seven Sisters Festival, the largest women only health and personal development festival in Australia. Her greatest passion is to celebrate, educate, and inspire women to love and accept all parts of themself through the gift of their body. Okay, welcome Rebecca Kelly to 100 breaths with Gavin McGee. It's great to have you in the studio today. Speaker 2 (02:26):

Thank you, Gavin. It's a really amazing opportunity to be here too. Speaker 1 (02:30):

Awesome. Now I'm intrigued. What is niaa? Speaker 2 (02:35):

NIA is a conscious movement practice that's a blend of dance, martial arts, yoga, and a couple of postural sensory awareness techniques. Now that sounds really complex and that's the science version of it, but what fundamentally NIA is, is a really simple practice that blends different movement practices to support people to connect more deeply to themselves through the gateway of their body. Speaker 1 (03:07):

Wow. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah, great explanation. Thank you for that. Now, I also read that you are Ania black belt. Speaker 2 (03:15):

I am, yes. How Speaker 1 (03:16):

Did you become a neo black belt? What do you have to go through to become a neo black belt? Speaker 2 (03:21):

Yeah. Well, many years of a dedicated practice. I've been doing Nia for coming up to 24 years this October. Speaker 1 (03:30):

24 years. Wow. Speaker 2 (03:31):

Yes, long time. And they say it takes 10,000 hours to master something. I've definitely can stand in more than 10,000 hours. You can keep Speaker 1 (03:40):

The master bucket there. Speaker 2 (03:42):

And yeah, near is very founded and grounded in the martial arts. So three of the movement forms of NEA are Tai Chi, aikido, and TaeKwonDo. So there's a lot of the ancient eastern traditions in the practice of niaa. And the levels of training go alongside as if you were doing a martial arts practice, your white belt, green belt, blue belt, brown belt, and black belt. It's definitely not a combative martial art. It's not contact. It's very much a practice that you do within your own body, and it's actually dance based, so it's really unique. It's really not like anything else I've ever found anywhere in the world except itself. It's unique fusion. So yeah, I've done all of the training levels up until the black belt. So I've done that black belt was in about, oh gosh, a long time ago. Now I'm showing my age here. Oh goodness, 12 or 13 years ago, I did my black belt. And yeah, from the moment I found it, it just was what I knew I wanted to do. Well, it found me really, and it just completely, not only changed my body, but it really changed my life. And from the moment I found it, I've been doing it ever since. Wow, Speaker 1 (04:59):

That's awesome. Yeah. And is there anything that you need to do to maintain your black belt? Do they have any standards or, yeah, you just get to that point and obviously your 10,000 hours, you've done enough of it to have embodied it at that level. Yeah. So it's only, I would imagine your own feelings on where you want to carry that and how you want to carry that on. Sure. Speaker 2 (05:23):

Well, it's a whole huge, I guess there's a science and an art with Nia, and there's many levels of training and education, so you can really explore so many different avenues with it. I haven't done all the levels of the training. There's another level of the black belt. I'm actually trying to name remember the name of it, but I guess you would say it would be like a second, Dan, if you were in a traditional martial art, which I haven't done, you don't need to do that. That's more for personal development. But some people do the pathway of Nia as a student and a practitioner, and then others, most people do it to deepen their own personal practice, and then others do it to teach the practice. So I did it very much to teach the practice. So I've been teaching the practice now for well over a decade. And if I felt to do more training, I would, but I really spent my late twenties and all of my thirties doing a lot of training in Nia and Resitting belts and doing other trainings as well. Most of it in the USA and some of it in Australia. So yeah, at this point I felt like you're comfortable. Yeah, awesome. Yeah, definitely. Speaker 1 (06:39):

How did you find Mia? Speaker 2 (06:41):

Well, it really found me. I was traveling around the United States. That's a journey and a story within itself. But I was on a real spiritual journey. I was in my twenties, 25 years old, and I was a fitness trainer, and I was traveling around America working in these big mind body spirit expos, very much on a seeking spiritual journey. And at one of these expos, there was this demonstration for the neo technique. It was in Austin, Texas, I'll never forget it. And it was actually the day that I met my ex-husband as well, which is very interesting. It really sort of opened up a whole new cycle in my life, my own personal journey. And I went to this demo and I watched these women on this stage, there was maybe 200 people in the audience, about 30 women on the stage, and there was this tribal raw music with drums and African sounds, and these women were leaping and they were moving these beautiful fluid, simple moves, and they were sounding, and the energy was absolutely incredible.
(07:56)
I was an exercise specialist and a fitness trainer, and I ran a big gym in Australia, and I taught a lot of classes. I had never seen anything like this, and I was watching it and just completely being swept up in it. Suddenly the women ran off the stage and they started to run around the audience. Before I knew it, I jumped out of my seat and I'm dancing at the back of the audience, and one of these women, they're running and building the energy in this room and alone, it was wild and primal, and all the people in the audience were clapping. And I jumped up being a mover, and I'm been moving my whole life since I was four years old. I've been a dancer. And somebody grabbed my hand, I dunno who it was, and before I knew it, I was literally running with these women.
(08:47)
And then before I knew it, I was center a stage in the middle of the demonstration and the music just kicked into this full tribal beat. And I took this massive breath in unison with these other women and released it and just tears were just running down my face and I was taken by it and it just went, oh my God, what is this? And I've been doing it ever since. That was literally my first moment, and I have been doing it. It sent my life on a completely different tangent, my career and my whole life path. From that moment, I just went, this is what I need to be doing, and this is where I'm heading. And yeah, 24 years later, I'm sitting here talking to you about it in Australia. So yeah, it was quite the moment. Well, Speaker 1 (09:36):

There's nothing, well, we know what the Americans think of us Aussies. Anyway, so there we have an Aussie in Texas, and then all of a sudden you're stuck in the middle of it and and you just have that, you just know energetically, or yet you just feel when there's a connection and you're drawn to something and you just, yeah, it, it's almost, it just flows through you. It goes through you Speaker 2 (09:59):

A hundred percent. And Speaker 1 (10:01):

You've experienced that. I've experienced that and and I can only hope that other people in life get an opportunity to experience moments like that because that's truly transformational, isn't it? Speaker 2 (10:12):

Inspir really Speaker 1 (10:13):

Transformational. Inspirational, yeah. And it's a calling, really. It is. You were put there, you found yourself there at that point for what, however, yes. And whenever, and it's You were just there. Yeah, Speaker 2 (10:26):

Exactly. Speaker 1 (10:26):

And then boom, that unfolds. Speaker 2 (10:29):

Yes, yes. First day of the rest of my life. Really? Yeah. And even when I talk about it, I can feel it in my whole body. My heart rate has increased. I can feel my lungs expanding. I can just feel remem the remembrance of the joy. And yeah, it was absolutely life changing. And it's important to note that a huge part of Nia is the breath, is that real conscious awareness and the use of conscious breathing to work with the body's natural design to really increase joy, increase life force to release, to build energy, to clear energy. Breath is an underpinning foundation of the practice of niaa. So yeah, there's that in there as well. Awesome. Speaker 1 (11:15):

Great stuff. Speaker 2 (11:17):

Yeah. Speaker 1 (11:17):

Well said. Now here's a question for you. Can you share with us a period in your life where you felt really challenged? Speaker 2 (11:25):

Which one? Yes. Speaker 1 (11:29):

Alright, let's start with what's one you'd like to Yep. What's one that comes to mind that you'd like to share with us? Yeah, Speaker 2 (11:37):

I think in all honesty, everyone experiences many moments of challenge in life. So yeah, I think it is about picking that one, isn't it? I would say the one I'd love to share would be my most challenging experience. It was about six years ago, almost six years ago now, in October, I had an operation that was meant to be a small procedure. And from the procedure and the operation, I got sepsis septicemia and I nearly died. And I've had a couple of near death experiences in my life, and I've had some very big kind of awakening moments throughout my life. I've had a very rich journey, very expansive journey. But this one was huge because what it did was, long story short, I was dying from the sepsis, but I was fully conscious and awake. And my body, what I said to the doctors when the whole team was on me was they kept asking me my name and asking me how I felt.
(12:50)
And I said, I'm on fire, but I feel like a stone because my experience was my body or my spirit was falling away from my body like a stone from Earth. And I could feel it. And I was desperately trying to stay here. I didn't want to go. So my spirit was gently falling, but I'm clinging onto life and I am a very strong woman, strong being, and I wasn't going to let go. And what kept playing over in my head was, I don't want to leave my children. I have two beautiful children, teenagers, I don't want to leave my children. I don't want to leave my children, I can't leave them. I can't ruin their lives without a mother. This was what was playing out. And of course I'm on fire, I'm in agony. It was very extreme, but I was awake. So when I eventually got the healing and went through this process, that was a big journey within itself.
(13:58)
It was a very, very serious physical process of rebuilding and many things happening over the course of the next month. And I couldn't work mean. It was like I'd had a stroke. It really affected my brain, my cognizance. I couldn't communicate properly. It affected every system in my body. I'm very, very lucky to be alive, very lucky. And what happened though, and this happens to 80% of people that get sepsis that live from sepsis, get this thing called post sepsis syndrome, which is very similar to post-traumatic stress disorder. And most people that have sepsis die to the level that I had it, but I was one of those lucky ones that lived, and I was one of the 80% that got this. So as with post-traumatic stress, something can happen and it will loop like a fixation happens on the point of the trauma that then repeats.
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So what happened to me was I got stuck in this moment, I'm really shortening the story, and I think it's important just to give you the bare bones of this moment where I went into this fight flight response of what's going to happen to me? What's going to happen to my children? What's going to happen to me? What's going to happen to my children? Like the tiger's coming, the tiger's coming with post traumatic stress, or when someone's in anxiety, they loop and they can't get out of the loop. And I couldn't get out of that. And then it progressed into really serious symptoms. And I tried being, me being this teacher and facilitator and wellness person, and my whole career and all the things I've done with all these tools, I thought I could fix it myself. But after a certain amount of time, I really needed to get professional help.
(15:50)
And I wasn't really willing to admit that I couldn't do it myself and my doctor, when I went to him, it was about three months after the fact, and he said, I said, I dunno, what's wrong with me? I can't get back on the horse. This was the words I kept saying, I can't get back on the horse. I always get back on the horse. I was this black belt and I'm strong and I'm this focused a type personality, and I'm this teacher and I'm all these things, this personality, and that's served me well in my life. But at this point, I wasn't able to use those strategies anymore to heal. And my doctor said, you have P T S D, Rebecca, you have post sepsis syndrome. And I said, oh, I don't think so. He said, I want you to see a psychologist. I said, all right.
(16:43)
And I saw a psychologist once and she said, well, we are going to sit and we're going to unpack all of the traumas of your life. And I just looked at her and went, well, I'm never coming back. That was too scary. I just see you later. I just went, see you later. She said, I want you to go home. I started to share more of my journey, which is a rich journey as you know about a big story, a big journey and a big life. Many wonderful things and a lot of life, a lot of experiences. And I didn't want to face that at the time. So I just walked away and said, oh, I'll just check this myself. And for another three months I tried to do that and the symptoms got worse. I didn't sleep, literally didn't sleep for three months. And I was still pushing through trying to teach, create parent children, do all of the things.
(17:35)
And by another three months I was totally broken. And my mom took me to back to the doctor and said, you need to help her. And I said, I'm ready. And he said, thank you, thank you for back and for letting me in. And that was huge for me. And that ensued in years. It's another story. We don't need to go into all the details, but really the last five years of dedicated therapy and training and education and healing about trauma and unpacking my own learning tools and techniques, me being the person that was experiencing it, I never share anything that I don't embodied and experience myself. And a huge journey of discovery, personal healing and discovery. And then also eventually being able to share what I've learned and embodied with others. So huge challenge, which often the biggest ones end up being our greatest teachers and gifts. Absolutely. But yeah, it was like the sepsis took the lid off Pandora's box, and Speaker 1 (18:51):

You were at that stage. It sounds to me like you were just not ready to let anything out of Pandora's box. No. So you were fighting it internally and refusing it, and that only locked it deeper away in your internals. Exactly. Because we know that all of these events get stored in our cellular system now. Nervous system especially. Yes. And I just want to have a quick reflection there on that. We think we've hit rock bottom, but we haven't quite hit rock bottom. So we carry on. And then at some point you do hit rock bottom. Now, I think the saving grace, and for you, you recognize that eventually I've been through a similar experience. We've all had these journeys and and I had to hit my own rock bottom to then have my own realizations that I'm responsible for me and I need to help me to shift into and through what I was experiencing.
(20:01)
So your journey is just another journey that we all go through and you hit rock bottom, get some help, and then eventually you start to see yourself coming through and coming out the other side of it. And for some journeys, it can take a month, a year, two years, five years, 10 years, 20 years. And for some people, they can be locked in a journey that they can't come out of for many, many decades. And they're the ones we, we'd love to be able to help unpack some of that stuff to bring some peace and joy back into their lives. So thanks for sharing that because that, that's a really deep story and a question covered off most of what I wanted to ask you about that. How did you handle it emotionally, mentally, physically, but most importantly, what did you notice about yourself during that period? Speaker 2 (20:56):

Well, it was so intense prior to that, as I said, I've been a international facilitator and taught at top retreats and run big events and been a presenter at festivals, all sorts of things. And I had very much this, and it was very authentic. It wasn't like I was wearing a mask. It was authentically who I was. But I had all these strategies and this education and a lifetime of studying and learning and then eventually facilitating and sharing really incredible tools for embodiment and healing and energetic healing and physical healing. And that was my whole life's work. So up until that point, like I said, that I can't get back on the horse, this, I'll never forget those words because it was like I'm failing. I'm not able to do what I once did. No matter what I'd done previously, it wasn't going to help me anymore.
(22:03)
Being strong and being able to go forward or to stand up and keep going on, that was actually the opposite of what I needed to do to truly heal. And what it did to me, is it the journey? And I did many different types of therapies. I mean, I had horrific PTSD like, well, PS, post sepsis syndrome. But PTSD is an easier term because it's sort of thrown about a lot these days. And trauma's not a dirty word these days. This is really being acknowledged and brought to the surface. So everyone's acknowledging, or not everyone, but more and more people are acknowledging and the mainstream is acknowledging that this is real and it can be healed. It's not just the soldiers in Afghanistan that come back that have seen too many things. It happens a lot or trauma or anxiety that we know the mental health situation of many people.
(23:01)
It's pretty crazy out there in the modern world. So what it did for me was I couldn't just get back on the horse and I couldn't overcome fear. I was in a state of fear, like crippling, debilitating fear, anxiety. I'd never had anxiety. I was chronically depressed. I'd never really had depression. I'd had challenges in life and times in my life, say my marriage ended, or other times when things had been challenging. But this was something that I'd never experienced. It's hard to really put into words unless you've been there because it's really living in hell. It's like living in hell in your body internally, and you might look normal on the outside, I look like this, but it's literally, it's a hellscape internally. That's how it felt. That's intense. And it's true. So I often, I wanted to die. I had this voice saying, just throw yourself off the rocks.
(24:05)
Just end it. Just end it. And I'm not saying that I had truly had suicidal ideation. I wouldn't say that because never really got to that place that I thought I would do that. But I had to try, had to do so many different techniques and therapies with psychologists, psychotherapists with medication. I mean, I really had to go there. But the deepest part of it, and where the true healing I think came from was by surrendering and being willing and ready to really face what was underneath and really feel what was the fuel underneath all that. Why was that even there? Yes, it got triggered by something, but to finally allow and to embody, I guess, or integrate all of my experiences to become whole. And that took a lot of courage, but I had to do it. And I did. Yeah, Speaker 1 (25:05):

I think the key word that you used right there out of that conversation was just one word that shines for me. And that's allow Speaker 2 (25:14):

A hundred percent. Speaker 1 (25:15):

Once we allow things to move through us and we allow ourselves to be with certain things, we can then put our attention into how we can shift certain things as well. And anxiety, depression of, I got diagnosed with depression myself, and I sort of felt in myself. I knew something was not right, and it had been that way for quite a long period of time. And I could feel myself when I'd be diving into a hole and I go, well, what the hell's going on here? And I had no reason to dive into a hole. I had everything going perfectly well in my life, but I would just dive into this hole and I would have these voices in my head telling me, how long are you going to be there this time? You're going to be there for three days. You're going to be there for seven, you're going to be there for 10, you're going to be there for two weeks.
(26:17)
But then the mask comes out. So you put on this brave little mask around people, and they don't truly understand what's going on, but yet there's signs of you they can see that you're troubled in some way and they can't understand why you would be troubled. And even you don't understand yourself why you're troubled. And my trigger was, I would get to a point where all of a sudden I would have this voice say to me, you're coming out of this in three hours. Oh, you're coming out of this in two hours. And it would be like a submarine coming to the surface. I'd just go, boom, and then bang, bingo on back on earth again. And that went on for decades for me before I eventually got a diagnosis on it and was able to get some help, got put on antidepressants, felt that all they did for me was just, I felt I was just a flat line. And that's what they do. They make, they give you a flat line, but they don't give you, in my opinion, the help that you truly need. But it's recognizing where that rock bottom is, and then allowing yourself to be an acceptance of, I want to change. Yes, I need a shift. Yes. I don't want to be this anymore. So Speaker 2 (27:41):

It's like that word allow is, it's like the word surrender. They both sound quite passive. Oh, I'm in surrender. I surrender like the white flag or allow, it's like, oh, I'm just going to let that happen. But it's actually such a powerful, courageous thing to do. It takes a lot to drop those masks, like you said, or that image on the outside and really go, I don't really like the word let go, because I don't necessarily think we let go of anything. We might embody something or integrate something or become at peace with something, but we don't necessarily let things go. I don't really use that term for myself as personal languaging, but allowing and surrendering is really quite active because it's having fine getting to the courage to go, I can't do this. Nothing I've done so far is working. It's like handing it up probably to that voice that you heard, your higher self. I would say that was your higher self going, it's all right, mate. I've got you. Yeah, you took a couple of decades for you to realize took Speaker 1 (28:50):

A while, but we're going to get you, we'll help you through this. We'll move you through Speaker 2 (28:53):

This to give it to your higher self or whatever that is for you, and say, you really, I need your help because I can't do it my human self. I can't do it. We have so many strategies that have kept us going. It's like we got to let go of those strategies. Oh, I just said the let go. Yeah. Not use those strategies anymore to be in that courageous place of power and allowing for sure. Speaker 1 (29:18):

And I think sometimes we can get locked in the busyness of things to then become ignorant of the reality of what is taking place underneath all the latest. Absolutely. Yeah. And I've certainly learnt that as well. But they say for a person to make a massive transformational shift from who they are, that it usually takes a major event or an accident or an injury or a certain situation to trigger the realization that their current reality is no longer serving them. Would you agree with that? Speaker 2 (29:48):

Yes. Yeah, 100%. Absolutely. Yeah. Speaker 1 (29:52):

Yeah. It's interesting. I've had that happen to me a couple of times in my life. Yes. Have you ever experienced a massive transformational shift like that? Speaker 2 (30:01):

Oh yes. I mean, that was major. Oh, one of Speaker 1 (30:04):

'em was you? Speaker 2 (30:04):

Yeah, a hundred percent, yes. But I've had many in my life, actually. Yeah. I've had many big events. I guess I'd use the words shamanic awakenings, not that I call myself a shaman. I think that term is really sort of bandied about these days. People do a weekend workshop and they're calling themselves a shaman these days. There is a big spiritual entertainment industry that's really proliferating, and you can see a lot of that. And Oh, I'm at this, or I'm a, and I'm a medicine person. I'm a sham. And well, that's a very, very specialized and sacred term to use, often handed down by a lineage. So I wouldn't say that, oh, that's who I am. But the best way to describe these experiences that I've had sequentially in my life is like a shamanic or awakenings or significant spiritual or energetic experiences. And I've had many of those, actually, my first one being when I was three years old, I really woke up with full psychic awareness and ability to open up to universal energy and channel it at three years old.
(31:26)
And that was very intense, and that really set the tone for my life and a lifetime of learning to work with and understand these unique extra sensory gifts that I have. And it's been a big journey. When I went into the healing of the sepsis, one of the therapists I worked with quite extensively, I did a lot of emdr, which is a brain pattening technique using the eyes. It can really help PTSD symptoms. It doesn't always work, but it was one of the things, I did many things over those years, but it was one of the things I did. And this psychotherapist, he said to me when I shared my life story, he said, wow, that's a big story. And he said, he said, I honor your journey and your story. I really want you to know that Rebecca. And he said, if you had have been in a traditional society or been born a long time ago, or in another culture, he said, you would've been taken away from your parents when you were three and given to the elders and to the healers and taught about who you are and how to work with who you are and what you hold.
(32:44)
And he said, and instead, you've been finding your own way around planet earth in many countries too. Mind you with in all sorts of ways to find your own way, to find your own pathway in your learn, your yourself. Yeah. So I can say that word, shamanic awakening. So yeah, they really started for me at a very young age, for sure. Speaker 1 (33:07):

Well, that's really interesting when you talk about that, having that awareness at three years old, and we now know so much about the evolution of children between zero and two and then two to seven and then seven to 12. So I'm really curious to know, at that young age, how did you step into that? What was taking place within you that was different to what was happening for, say, the other kids around you or the other kids in the playground? Yeah. Speaker 2 (33:42):

Yes, it was certainly very, I certainly felt very isolated and very different. What really started happening was I literally got into bed one night and my hands just started to, it's hard to explain it in words. Have you ever had a dream when you're falling? It's like a vacuum, like an energy that's sucking down. It's very strong energetically. So what I felt was that feeling, that roaring energy of falling, pouring out the palms of my hands and coming through my body. F And of course I can articulate that to you now, but at the time, I couldn't articulate that to my parents, my very mainstream conservative parents. So I was terrified, absolutely terrified. So I went into their room and I did this every night, many nights. And I just said, there's something wrong with my hands. There's something wrong. There's something wrong with my hands.
(34:53)
And I was so afraid I could barely speak. And they were looking at my hands saying, your hands are fine. And put me back to bed and tucked me in and pat me and put me back to sleep and calmed me down. And eventually it got to the point that it was, there's nothing wrong with your hands. Don't be silly. It's not real. Go back to sleep. It's not real. Go back to sleep. It's not real. This is a strong message I was getting. And they were just doing the best they could. They weren't being cruel or anything. They just wanted to go to sleep. And so eventually they had to buy me. They bought me at about the age of four or five, these special toys that I would hold. I had to hold to squeeze them really hard so that I could sleep.
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Cause I couldn't sleep. Cause I was so afraid. And it sounds really weird. And it was really weird. It sounds weird because it was so unlike anything. And I couldn't really talk about it because they'd already said it's not real. And so I had these toys that would help me sleep. I couldn't sleep with my hands open till I was probably in my thirties. I had to have them closed because I just had to have them closed to shut down this energy and this sens sensation. Of course, it wasn't frightening by then because I'd been learning about it for many years, but at a young age, it was very terrifying. And because I was very afraid and I was also completely psychically open, I then started to attract a lot of dark energies, I guess. So I was quite haunted in as a child, and I would see end sort of dark beings and frightening things and things that I really understand.
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Now we live in a multidimensional universe. Back then I didn't know that. And also dead people ghosts, and I was seeing things and not able to talk about them. And it was quite very frightening. I had a frightening childhood, and it was very within my own world. I think that was a pattern I set up very early on that I'm in my own and it's only me, and I've got to sort this out. No one's coming. It's just me. So I was like that for my childhood. And I had a child, normal childhood as well in some, yeah, I did generally. But another thing that started happening very close to the time with the hands was I started to get to break bones. And it tied in very much with this experience as I was having. And I broke a lot of bones. I broken 18 bones in my life, most of them in my childhood.
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And my arms, my wrists, mainly this arm five times. And it was, the brakes were often here at first, and that was, I think, shut to shut the energy down. I don't know. It was a release of energy in my body. And I broke bones like what? Four at seven at nine 11. So consistently, I think my body was programmed to say, there's something wrong and it's broken. Something's not right. Here was, none of this was conscious, but it was happening. And then by the time I had lots of unusual experiences that I didn't share. And then by the time I was a little bit older, early teen years experiencing it, and then it just turned back on again. One day I saw a scary movie and it just started happening in the movie theater and it very terrifying. And then I did my teen years, and then I just want to jump through that. I was a bit of a wild teenager, I think I was trying to sort of block it a bit and tone it down. And then when I was 21, I started to go, okay, I really need to learn and understand this. It's Speaker 1 (38:57):

Taken place. Speaker 2 (38:58):

And then a series and a sequence of teachers and the right people and training and study came into my life, and I was a reiki master at the age of 22. I was running healing circles. I started to train in kinesiology in energetic medicine and meditation, and I was having experiences with ghosts. And I started to learn about mediumship, and I had polter guys happening. I mean, lots of things were happening. And it was just this really big opening and journey of going how this is not just me. How do I learn about this? And I really just from that moment on at 21 years old, I really dedicated the rest of my life to understanding and working with energy, working with the unseen realms, working with understanding all this stuff. And it became my life's work and purpose. So it's a big one. Speaker 1 (39:57):

So that was more down the lines of you finally started to step into, well, you were always noticing what was happening within you, but others outside of you were unrelatable to it. I would imagine the parenting back then in those years was, yeah, it's okay, sweetie. You're having a dream. It's your imagination. Yes, all kids have this wild imagination. And yes, everything will be okay that yeah, the monsters aren't under the bed, and yeah, you'll be all right. But yeah, you felt differently and you noticed that, and you continue to notice that as you evolve through the ages. And then once again, you allowed yourself to step into it. Yes. Say, well, okay, I'm here. I'm experiencing this. What does it all this represent and what does it mean and where can I take it and what can I do and how can I serve? How Speaker 2 (40:46):

Do I work with Speaker 1 (40:47):

This? How do I Speaker 2 (40:47):

Work with it? It's not going to go away. It's not going anywhere. It's like, how do I, so yeah, I had to really learn, and it kind of went into spiritual bootcamp for the first half of my twenties was lots of crazy things happening because I didn't know what I was doing and had a lot of wild experiences, which is really how I found niaa because I was in a huge spiritual awakening at that time. And I just had to really, I think the divine, whatever you want to call that, bought this practice into my life to really help me ground and be fully present in my body and to understand this incredible amount of energy that I trans can uct and how to work with it in a really healthy, effective way. And absolutely, that's what Nia did for me. And of course it's a fitness practice and it's all that stuff. But for my own personal journey, I truly believe it came to me to go, all this energy can be channeled in a really powerful, amazing, safe, potent way. And then it turned into me sharing that with others. So yeah. Speaker 1 (42:02):

Yeah. That's fascinating. It's great. Awesome. Thank you. That's a real journey. It is. I would imagine in that period, the support from your family and friends would've been Speaker 2 (42:14):

Different. Which part? Yes. Yeah. So I've always been Speaker 1 (42:19):

Very different. Offer you a straight jacket at any stage, or Speaker 2 (42:22):

Definitely not a straight jacket, but it was very evident from once I started to really, I was always very different, I guess a black sheep or something. And I was a wild teenager for sure. I went down the wild path, and I really do, in retrospect, can see that what I was doing was blocking that energy. Because if you're wild and partying, dolled it right down. I didn't know that at the time, but that was a strategy, not a very effective strategy, I guess, long term or sustainable or healthy. But that's definitely what I was doing with addictive behaviors and partying and stuff as a teenager. But once I hit 21 and I knew that wasn't the way to go, and I needed a change, I had to just allow surrender. Speaker 1 (43:12):

Yes. Yeah. What's Speaker 2 (43:14):

That word? Yeah, from that moment, it was evident. And I shared stuff with my family, and of course they knew I was doing all these courses and I was very lucky to have an aunt. My dad's sister is an incredibly spiritual and very connected and wise woman. And she was one of the people who showed up at that time and went, wow, you really need to study. And first I started with reiki and meditation. That was my back in the day. And she was that person that said, do, have you heard of this thing? And I said, no. And then all of the people came, as you would know, gv, once we are on a pathway with something, the right people come, it just comes in. Benevolence and grace just come in. And that's what started happening for me. So I shared, of course, my parents, well, they were living through this with me.
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So yeah, there were a few times of real peak times. There was a period at 23 years old that I had an my first major near death experience from a trauma of hospital trauma. And I had this huge awakening, shamanic awakening, another one, massive one. And that was sort of a huge catapult of my gifts. And so they really witnessed that. And there were probably a few times in the next few years when I was really on this, people call it a significant religious experience that I was having, but the right people always came to support it too. There was probably a few moments where they thought, they may have thought a straight jacket could have been a good idea, but I was traveling around the world by that stage and finding it out myself. So no straight jackets ever were ever put on me, but I think that they certainly felt that. But over the years, and as they've seen me grow and my journey and who I am, yes, I have all these gifts, which I believe we all have if we could choose to tap into them. But I'm an incredibly grounded and practical and third dimensional person as well. I'm a business owner. I'm a mother, I'm a teacher. Yeah. I'm very much here, here. I'm not floating around. Speaker 1 (45:39):

Well, well have been floating around. You managed to arrive here tonight. So Speaker 2 (45:43):

I floated to Kings Cliff today, so Speaker 1 (45:45):

That's a good thing. Speaker 2 (45:47):

Yep. Hey, Speaker 1 (45:49):

Do you ever judge yourself and question your own ability to achieve your desired outcomes? Yeah, Speaker 2 (45:55):

For sure. Speaker 1 (45:56):

Okay. Yeah. So how do you overcome the inner critic when that judgment arrives? Speaker 2 (46:01):

I don't feel that I do that anymore, but I most certainly did for most of my life. There was always that battle for me between I guess being who I truly am and really owning that or standing in that. Because like you said, it sounds a bit like where's the straight jacket? That's not something you kind of want to broadcast. Yeah, I guess. Well, I certainly haven't, don't come across that way if you meet me. But so for me, it's been how do I be that be my whole self, my true self whilst I guess fitting in, not fitting in, but
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Doing life, doing succeeding, and being a regular person in life. It's been a real journey for me to marry those two halves and become whole. And I can 100% stand in that now. And that's wonderful. But it, it's been a long journey to really come to that place. And I feel very integrated now. And I really love myself and stand in who I am with a humble heart. But I had a lot of that inner critic most of my life. And it came from that. There's some something wrong with me. I don't want to be this or I'm broken. It's whatever this, get rid of this, I want to get rid of this. But it's like, but that's who you are. And so coming into a place of peace, just being at peace with yourself. I was chatting to this beautiful woman the other day, and she's very spiritual, and she said, your higher self gives full permission, gives you full permission to just be at peace. And I remember when I was going through my big PTSD and the illness and the recovery and that huge journey, people would say, what do you want? And I would just say, I just want peace. If people ask me if, do you want, I don't know anything in life, a million dollars or a mansion on the hill, what do you still want to travel? Which is when whatever covid was going on, I'm like, I just want peace because I did not think I would ever find in inner peace. And yeah, I have it. Speaker 1 (48:28):

Yeah, that feeling of inner peace is quite amazing, isn't it? Yes. You can tend to not become attached to very much at all, actually. Yeah, it's quite liberating. When I had the epiphany to write my book, the Little book of Noticing, which is just about to be released, that was a download that I had from the universe laying in a hospital bed, recovering from surgery. And then wow, boom, this download comes in. Here I am laying in bed. I picture the book, I picture the content, I picture what it looks like. I picture what it feels like. I picture it already written, the title was there straight off. It hasn't altered any since. And then it came through me. So it's, yeah, thing. Things happen. And when you accept and go with them, yes, it, it's their life changing events. Speaker 2 (49:26):

Yes. Speaker 1 (49:28):

So what's your life's purpose now? Speaker 2 (49:34):

I'd like to say being an embodiment of peace. Yeah. Being a living example of being at peace. Just being authentic. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I inspire people. I love to inspire people, particularly women with what I teach and what I share. I love, nothing lights me up more than up-leveling and uplifting a group of women to just really connect with themselves through their bodies and through joy. And when I say through to their bodies, I don't just mean the physical body. I mean their emotional body, their mental body, their unseen bodies, the ones we don't see. But through this, I just love that light lights me up celebrating and inspiring and educating women to love themselves through their body. But my purpose now, that's like something that I do, but I believe my purpose is who I be. So I want to be a living example of being at peace. And I say, well, what is peace? It's being in acceptance. It's being with myself, being in alignment. I believe that love is the greatest deal there is, and being in a mystery of love. And that's not what I'm doing. It's who I'm being. And then it can come through everything I'm doing. Speaker 1 (50:59):

Yeah, it's incredible because if I always use the analogy of do and have love, who I'm being will determine what I am doing, which will determine what I have. So I wrote about it in the book and I said, well, look, you can be a world famous dickhead and Speaker 2 (51:24):

Professional, Speaker 1 (51:25):

A professional, well famous dickhead. That's who you're being. And then what you're doing from that will represent what you get from that. Or you can be a person that wants to make a world famous difference. And then you'll be doing things that are congruent with making a world famous difference. And your outcome from that, which will be what you have, will be empowering others. Helping society. Helping community. So do and is such an easy way for me to relate to what you were just saying about who am I being? Yes. Because that's where it all starts. But the being needs to come from 100% congruency with yourself. So you need to be 100% embodied and in love with who you are being now. Speaker 2 (52:15):

Yes. Speaker 1 (52:16):

And then that will be the draw card of what you're surrounded with,
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What comes to you and through you and with you on your journey. It took me a long time for me to get to that place, but likewise, I got to that place and I'm in that place right now and very, very comfortable, especially as a man, to share that whole, just what it means. And if we can empower your journey is to help a lot of women well and to be their true self. Well, mine's the same. If I can help a lot of men and women and kids to come into alignment with finding their selves and then holding that congruent state, Speaker 2 (53:06):

Yes, Speaker 1 (53:08):

Things will change for them and they'll, things will change. And they won't quite, it'll take them a while to understand what is happening, but once they learn to be with that, they'll have a realization of why that happens that way. Yes, it's a fascinating journey, but certainly one that, well, that's why we're here having this conversation. Speaker 2 (53:31):

Exactly. Speaker 1 (53:32):

Raw, open, powered conversations that can assist people on their journey in life and maybe help shed a little bit of a awakening to themselves on Yeah. What's truly possible for them. Speaker 2 (53:46):

Exactly. I feel like your word, you are using the word congruency and I, me using the word peace, it's exactly the same thing. Peace sitting on the cushion, meditating or it's not like peace be with you or peace is kind of bandied around as well. But I love that congruency because that is alignment that is integrated, that is just being with and emanating that whatever that is, love or inspiration, just being you, your authentic self, your whole self. So yeah, I think congruency is probably an even better word, but it means the same thing for me. I love that. Speaker 1 (54:30):

And it's, once that happens, you can manage situations so much easier. Yes. They just become really, it's hard for me to express, but it, it's just life becomes easier put, life just becomes it. Just pure joy. And you look for the good in things always. And that's my underlying fourth principle of the art of noticing is always look for ways to feel good. So even when you're feeling like crap. Yeah, what can I do right now that can make me feel a little better than how I'm feeling? Yes. So, yeah. Interesting. Thank you. Yeah. What inspires you to rise and shine each day? Speaker 2 (55:20):

Well, I truly believe that every breath and every heartbeat and every step is a gift. This is a sacred gift, this gift of life in a body. I truly believe that this time here on earth, this is like ready player one, we are here, it's game on. This is it. And it's not a dress rehearsal. I believe our souls are infinite. And once the body ends, our soul will continue and go onto its next experience. But this one right here is me, Rebecca Kelly. This is the one I'm having with the people I love and the things I do and the world I'm living in. The beautiful paradise I live in, that is what gives me the inspiration to rise and shine. It's the moment because it is a gift. I use this term like this, celebrating or honoring the sacred gift of life in a body. My body is sacred. I am sacred, and life is sacred. And if that's not enough inspiration to get up and feel good and get outside and watch the sunrise or make a coffee or hug my children, it's like, I don't know what is. That's really for me, it's the moment. It's the moment to moment experience of having life in a body and the blessing of having a, I feel so lucky. I have a functional body that can do what it does. It's incredible. And it's a gift. Speaker 1 (56:47):

Yeah, I agree totally. But do you ever have periods where rise and shine feels like lay down and give in? Sure. Speaker 2 (56:54):

Yeah. Absolutely. Speaker 1 (56:56):

And when you feel this way, how do you lift yourself back up? What's your go-to remedy? Speaker 2 (57:01):

I'm a very big proponent of intention and choice and full self responsibility. So I know that I am completely responsible 100% for what I'm experiencing, because it's what I'm experiencing is through my own consciousness, my own lens. So I can choose differently. And when I feel myself going down or feeling exhausted, of course I feel tired sometimes or negative, or I'm doing, sometimes I've got to do things I don't want to do and I've got to show up and do the thing. I do have a strong muscle that will go, okay, we will choose. Like, I'm going to choose this in Nia, there's a whole concept of choose joy. And we don't say, joy is happy, happy joy, joy, butterflies and rainbows. And sometimes that is joy. But we use the term joy as universal life force energy. Yes. So they go with one another or they can be either word means the same thing.
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So it's a simple way to say it. So if I'm choosing joy, even if I feel like crap, I'm choosing life. Yes. So I will show up and do the thing. I'm very good at doing that, no matter how I'm feeling. And often if I do feel bad or I'm tired or I'm exhausted by doing the thing and by choosing, powerfully, choosing cause it's all within myself, nobody else knows, then I will then elevate myself and lift my spirits. Literally. Sometimes I might feel, be able to do that. Say if I'm feeling really tired enough to teach a class and I've got to show up for 30 people, go and really bring it. I guarantee that I will feel better afterwards. Usually if I'm tired, I can just take one step in and one deep breath and I feel different. So it's a choice and that's comes very deeply from within. So yeah, that's how I do it. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 (59:10):

Awesome. Speaker 2 (59:11):

Yeah. It's not always easy, but it's, it's possible. Speaker 1 (59:14):

Well, I thank you for your honesty in that. Cause it would've been really easy to just put on the bullshit mask and say, oh no, I rise and shine every day. I never have my down days and I never have my, I'm just, everything's so kosher. But we all have 'em. I have 'em as well, of course. And I've got to of course, give myself an upper cut some days and go, come on man. How can you look for ways to feel good? Yeah. What can you do right now that can just help you feel a bit better than how you're feeling? Because I've suffered anxiety, depression, and absolutely that they come drift in and drift out and I say, get on your bike, go for a walk. Go over to King. Go for a swim this morning. Do a bit more breathing, do a bit of conscious breathing now. Yeah. I just then turn on the tap of right, what do I need to do to make myself feel better than what I'm feeling? So for sure. Okay. Let's have a couple of quickfire questions. Yeah. Are you an introvert or extrovert? Speaker 2 (01:00:03):

I'm an extroverted introvert. Speaker 1 (01:00:05):

Extroverted introvert. I would have to agree with you on that from what I know of you. Yes. Alright. Pessimist or optimist? Speaker 2 (01:00:13):

Optimist. Speaker 1 (01:00:14):

Optimist. I'd agree with that one. Believer of what are you a believer of Speaker 2 (01:00:20):

Love. Speaker 1 (01:00:21):

A believer of love. Very nice. What are you a lover of? Speaker 2 (01:00:27):

Humanity. Speaker 1 (01:00:28):

Humanity? Speaker 2 (01:00:29):

Yeah. And life. Speaker 1 (01:00:30):

You can also say chocolate if you want to. Speaker 2 (01:00:34):

I like chocolate. I don't love it. I love hot chips. Speaker 1 (01:00:39):

Well there we're Marilyn, we got Speaker 2 (01:00:41):

Hot chips. Oh, I love coffee. Coffee. Two coffees a day. Yeah. Speaker 1 (01:00:44):

Well I love my coffee lover as well, and I just go just two a day. I love my coffee, so I'm not giving it up for anyone. No, Speaker 2 (01:00:49):

Neither am I Speaker 1 (01:00:51):

Get all of the recommendations in the world, but I'm a lover of Speaker 2 (01:00:54):

That is my recommendation. Yeah. That is our recommendation. We're endorsing it. Speaker 1 (01:01:00):

Now, what comes to mind for you when you think of consciousness? Speaker 2 (01:01:05):

What I think of? Oh, well consciousness is life. Yeah, absolutely. A hundred percent. I don't believe that consciousness lives in the body. I truly believe that the body is an extension of consciousness and the body actually lives in consciousness. This is a big question. This is like a whole other episode. We don't need to, it is another one. We don't need to open that one up right now. Speaker 1 (01:01:31):

Well, that's okay. You gave me your an answer. Yeah. Yeah. I'm happy with that Speaker 2 (01:01:34):

Succinctly. Yep. Speaker 1 (01:01:34):

Yep. Alright. I'm going to throw you under the bus on this one. Oh no. David R. Hawkins created the map of consciousness. Now Beck, I'm going to put you on the spot and ask you where on his scale of 20 to 1000 do you feel you currently are and there's a little reminder of his map of consciousness. Speaker 2 (01:01:53):

Okay. Speaker 1 (01:01:55):

So what I've done, listeners have just given Rebecca David Hawkins map of consciousness, and we'll see where she slots herself on the scale of 20 to 1000. Speaker 2 (01:02:06):

Oh. Speaker 1 (01:02:07):

And 1000 represents pure enlightenment. That enlightenment is between 701,000. And then we have from 500 to 600, we have love, a joy and peace. And then you go down the scale that starts right at the bottom at 20. Now I think we can cut out shame, guilt, apathy. 75 is grief. Then we have fear, desire, anger, pride, courage, willingness, acceptance, reason Speaker 2 (01:02:59):

And Speaker 1 (01:02:59):

Love. Where would you place yourself? Speaker 2 (01:03:02):

Well, this is all about being authentic. Yes. And honest. And I would say it's like a radio wave of frequency that sometimes I'm hanging out in the 700 to a thousand and sometimes I'm right down to a hundred. Yeah. I need to be really honest. Yeah. I tend to spend more time these days up in the blue zone. We all know about Blue Zone. Yeah. The benefit of Blue Zones for sure. Reason, love, joy, peace. Yeah. I think it's really important to be honest, and that it's, it fluctuates. It's definitely, it's, it's movable. Yeah. Speaker 1 (01:03:57):

Well it is a moving target for sure. And like you answered the question with something for me that gave me a understanding of how it truly should be read is we move in and out of these states. Yes. But what state are we looking to, or do we feel is the state that we're in? You look at the old 80 20 rules that get applied to things. I'd love to be in that 80% of that peace, joy, and love. Speaker 2 (01:04:28):

Yeah, I mean, definitely. I like that. I often use the 80 20 as well with people and with myself and do definitely, it'll be the 500 up, because I truly feel that love is the biggest deal there is. It's love is a force. It's not an emotion. It's like the building blocks of life and consciousness. And I don't want to have a massive ego and say, oh, I'm in inevitability and I'm operating in enlightenment all the time because it's not true. But I definitely am up more with the, at least 500 and above for sure. Yeah. Speaker 1 (01:05:10):

Well, thank you for that. I thought we'd just have a little bit of a conversation around that because it is an interesting map, and I look at a quote regularly to just have a feel about where do I feel I am right at this point in on my journey. And where Speaker 2 (01:05:25):

Is that Gavin? Speaker 1 (01:05:26):

Well, I would like to believe that I'm sitting, I would say around about that five 40 mark, enjoy, possibly even closer to the 600 mark of peace. I just feel joy and peace for me at the moment, possibly even a bit more on the peace scale. Beautiful. Because peace is that state of state. Well, if we look at it from self, it's a state of all being. Yes. And if we look at it from pure consciousness, it's a state of, what's that one there? Speaker 2 (01:06:00):

Illumination. Speaker 1 (01:06:01):

Illumination. Whoa. Ooh. That's pretty powerful. But I truly feel it on my part of this journey. I'm more than uncomfortable to express joy in peace, for Speaker 2 (01:06:10):

Sure. Yeah. Thank you. Sometimes I drop down into willingness, though. Lately I've been really working with the concepts of decision making and powerful decision making and then unwillingness and willingness, because you can't be willing and unwilling at the same time. Yes. You just can't be. Yes. You're either willing. Yes. Speaker 1 (01:06:34):

One or the other. Speaker 2 (01:06:34):

Yes. Or you're unwilling. Yes. You're not a bit willing. That's unwilling. Yeah. So I've been really working with that lately in my own personal development and journey. And sometimes I can be, I'm really willing, I'm so willing I can do this. I've got a couple of things at the moment that I'm so willing to do, and I've made some big decisions. And then it's like, so that's still choosing love and moving towards joy and peace because when the things eventuate that I've made the decision around our feel more of those feelings and that state of being. But yeah, I'd Speaker 1 (01:07:11):

Say, well, you're feeling that for in my, just from listening to you, you're feeling that willingness because you feel that there's a shift that needs to take place in you. Yes. That's drawing you towards that higher scale. Yes. Speaker 2 (01:07:23):

Yeah. It's magnetic. Yeah. Yeah. And powerful decision making and willingness are incredibly potent tools to anchor and use to get up there where we want to be in the purple and the blue and the pink zones. Speaker 1 (01:07:39):

And I know that our listeners, oh, well, some of our listeners will be able to see this when we put it to air, but for those of you that need a little bit of awareness around it, there's a map of consciousness right there. Check it out. David R. Hawkins. I Speaker 2 (01:07:52):

Love the colors too. Speaker 1 (01:07:54):

Very nice Speaker 2 (01:07:54):

Colors. Did you do the colors? Is that, Speaker 1 (01:07:56):

No, they Speaker 2 (01:07:56):

Were there. Is that your artistry? Speaker 1 (01:07:58):

No, definitely not mine. I can't claim that someone's gone to that trouble, but they're certainly aligned. Speaker 2 (01:08:04):

Thanks, David. Speaker 1 (01:08:05):

Thank you, David. Wonderful to share that with us. Alright. What do you notice about the world and others right now? Speaker 2 (01:08:15):

I feel that there's so much disconnection in so many people, yet so many more people are seeking connection. Yeah. It's a very interesting time. I think a lot of people are waking up to the realization and the understanding that there's so much more connection, love, joy, purpose and experience to be had. And that a lot of what they've thought and been taught isn't the full story. And I think there's a big movement on planet earth with for many people that there's a big wave of change. And that's exciting. It can be easy to get pessimistic at times, and I've definitely done that worrying about humanity or the earth or the systems in place. But when they can put that aside and focus on the beauty and on humanity, I always have faith, Speaker 1 (01:09:26):

A line that comes to me straight off that is seekers of truth. I think there's a lot more of that happening. Yes. I think there's a lot more seekers of truth in the world. Do you find yourself going into judgment mode when things occur Speaker 2 (01:09:41):

At times Speaker 1 (01:09:41):

Around you? Yeah. Speaker 2 (01:09:42):

Yeah. I'm very aware of it. I've do a lot of, I'm very self-responsible, very much so. I don't let myself get away with anything at all, really. And yeah, when I am pointing and judging and blaming, I know it's always about me. Speaker 1 (01:10:04):

Yeah, that's true. Speaker 2 (01:10:05):

Counter. Yeah. When it sounds cheesy, but when you're pointing a finger at someone, there's three pointing back at you. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, for sure. I catch myself. Sometimes I do it. I am human. But it always makes me feel sick actually, when I do do it. Speaker 1 (01:10:20):

It comes back to the awareness, doesn't it? The awareness of what's taking place. And that led me to my next question. If I was to ask you to notice something as opposed to judging it, how would you interpret the difference between them? Speaker 2 (01:10:34):

Can you please ask me again? So I just really hear that Speaker 1 (01:10:37):

If I was to ask you to notice something as opposed to judging something, how would you interpret the difference between them? Speaker 2 (01:10:48):

Noticing something is being with and judging something is making it wrong and having a perception and putting that on it. Whereas noticing is observation being with, so just receiving like mindfulness, it's not just sitting on the cushion for an hour a day. It's just a way of being coming back to that being state. So yeah, it's new, it's very neutral, and it's just being with what is without any perception. I mean, we always have some filter of our perception. I love that saying, I do not see things as they are. I see them as I am. And we do do that just being human, but noticing is being with, Speaker 1 (01:11:48):

Yeah, love your answer. It's noticing with, whereas opposed to judging where judging can quite often get be, you can become attached to whatever is taking place, and the attachment is then drawing, coming from your own beliefs, your own conditioning perception. So it's not allowing the other person or the event or situation to just show up as it needs to show up to give them space to be their authentic self. Because when they can be their authentic self, we can possibly even learn something new about ourselves from that. Absolutely. Or that situation. So thank you for answering that. It's a really interesting, and that's why I wrote the book, the little book of noticing. It's about letting go of judgments and stepping into what you can notice and how that one change will bring peace into your life. So we can go right back to the whole piece, start of our conversation. What would you like to share with our listeners about your work and how it makes you feel? Speaker 2 (01:12:56):

Well, it just lights me up. I'm very much community focused and relationship focused, so I love to bring people together and to bring people together for the purpose of healing, wellness, more joy, health vibrancy. To me that is just lights me up. I feel like I get to do the things I'm the most passionate about as a job. It's pretty incredible. A lot of people have their thing that they love and then that's something that they do as a hobby or on the side is their passion. To have an opportunity for that to be my work is pretty phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah. It feels pretty good. Speaker 1 (01:13:55):

Yeah. That's cool. Thank you. Now, if you could go back and give your 18 year old self one piece of advice, what would it be? Speaker 2 (01:14:07):

Wow. Speaker 1 (01:14:08):

That's got you're thinking, hasn't it? Speaker 2 (01:14:10):

Yeah. I'm a believer in destiny alongside conscious creation. I feel like it's like they're traveling next to one another. We have a pathway that's destined throughout time and space, but we're also choosing as we go. So I don't want to say, oh, do something different because my path's been the one it's been, do you know what I mean? I don't want to have any judgment on my journey. Initially the word said relax, but that's not really authentic. I would say make wise choices and really listen to your heart and love yourself. Speaker 1 (01:14:57):

Make wise, wise choices. Listen to your heart, love yourself. And wherever the road takes you is where the road takes you. Yeah. Speaker 2 (01:15:06):

I'd give her a big hug. Speaker 1 (01:15:07):

Give her a big hug. Yeah. Speaker 2 (01:15:09):

Yeah. 18 was a pretty rough time for me, and I'd be very compassionate with her. I have children of my own. My son is, my beautiful son is 18 and my daughter is 15, 14, nearly 15. And I just think about my children and how much I love them and to look at 18 year old me. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 (01:15:33):

And they're going to have their journey as well. Speaker 2 (01:15:35):

I'll hug. I will just hug her. Yeah. Speaker 1 (01:15:37):

Yeah. Hug the 18 year old. Yeah. I Speaker 2 (01:15:39):

Probably would've given her a ticket overseas or something. Speaker 1 (01:15:43):

Yeah, Speaker 2 (01:15:43):

Yeah. Got an exit out of what she was doing and I don't know. Send her somewhere. Who knows? Speaker 1 (01:15:48):

I think I got given a ticket overseas when I was 18. Yeah, maybe that might have been a sign for something. Okay. Yeah. Hey, Rebecca, how can we assist you to grow your community? That's one of our objectives here at 100 breaths. We're all about, it's like the old rotary adage, service above self. So we want to thank you for coming in and giving up your time to have this conversation with us here today. So how can we assist you to grow your community? Speaker 2 (01:16:19):

Well, I just think this beautiful opportunity to come on here and to share a bit about myself and my story is a wonderful way that you're assisting providing a platform for more people to hear about others and their work. So thank you. Yeah. Links to my schedule and what I do. I think that that's something you can do. I can definitely say that your breath work's helping me. I've experienced it. That's an time for another time. But I'd say that the power in what you are doing in your work, not just this podcast, but what that's doing for people to then expand in their own way. I think that's profoundly supportive. Speaker 1 (01:17:05):

Well, thank you. Yeah. We're all in it together. We sure are. We've got a journey. We're all in it together and Speaker 2 (01:17:11):

Down here on planet Earth. It's all happening. It's Speaker 1 (01:17:13):

All happening. So this Speaker 2 (01:17:14):

Is where it's happening. Speaker 1 (01:17:16):

Let's Rebecca reflect back through on just a couple of things that Rebecca said during our conversation here today. And it came back to intention, choice, and full responsibility and loving yourself. A big part of our journeys and something that we try to encourage people to find. And you've got to find how to love yourself. And then loving others becomes very, very easy. Now, I like to close out each of our pod podcasts with a question for our guests. Are you ready for it? Speaker 2 (01:17:49):

Another question. Give it to me. Speaker 1 (01:17:51):

Okay. Just one more. Rebecca Kelly, who are you breathing for today and why? Speaker 2 (01:18:04):

I'm breathing for my children as members of the next generation. Yeah. Moving forward for humanity. Yeah. Speaker 1 (01:18:18):

Awesome. Speaker 2 (01:18:19):

Sage and Maya, that's their names. Speaker 1 (01:18:21):

Well, Sage and Maya, your mom has spoken on 100 breaths and we thank her for joining us in the studio here today. It's been a fantastic conversation. I thank you for your vulnerability because that's the whole point of these conversations. Open, raw, authentic conversations that just come through us. And sure, we have a couple of questions to help guide us and keep us on purpose, but we just let the conversation go where it needs to go. And you've been very open and just shared and expressed what you felt from your heart. So we thank you for that. And thank you for joining us here at 100 Breaths, the podcast with Gavin McGee. Thank you, Speaker 2 (01:19:06):

Gavin. Thank you so much. Speaker 1 (01:19:08):

Well, there you have it, 100 breaths and Gavin McGee on our journey here. And we'll sign off from this episode and we'll get you all of Rebecca's details and we'll make sure that we share them out to the community. And all I can say to everyone is rise and shine tomorrow. It's a new day and there's plenty to live for. So thank you and we'll catch you next time on 100 breaths.