The Titanium Vault hosted by RJ Bates III
RJ Bates III, affectionately referred to as the Viking Wizard by his students, started his real estate investing career in 2014 after attending a real estate education program that put him $65,000 in debt. RJ contracted his first deal he found on the MLS and wholesaled it for a $7,500 assignment fee. That was the end of his former life and the beginning of his venture into becoming a real estate investor. Since that moment, RJ has become an influential figurehead in the real estate investing industry. He has successfully purchased and sold over 2,000 properties all across the USA including wholesale deals, rehabs, rentals, owner finances and short term rentals. One of his passions is being the host of The Titanium Vault Podcast where he interviews the top real estate investors. He has won back to back Closers Olympics earning him the reputation as the King Closer! Finally, RJ and Cassi DeHaas, his partner, have started their education platform called Titanium University.
The Titanium Vault hosted by RJ Bates III
Between Two Belts with Dean Rogers
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Dean Rogers sat down with RJ Bates III on Between Two Belts to discuss his NFL career, his greatest achievements in real estate investing and how proud he is of his children.
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I am ready. No one was asking you. Welcome to this edition of Between Two Belts. My name is RJ Bates III. Today's guest is Dean Rogers. The name is almost as boring as your personality.
Speaker 2Did you grow up on a farm or something You're?
Speaker 1talking real slow. I did grow up on a farm. It's observant of you, you played fullback.
Speaker 2right, I ended up playing fullback, Originally tight end, but I got moved to fullback and that's why I was like, yeah, this isn't a good life choice.
Speaker 1You still taught pretty quickly for someone bashing their forehead into people.
Speaker 2I've recovered, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1What do you do in real?
Speaker 2estate Dean, so I do wholesaling flipping, buying and holding rentals and also coach students on how to wholesale too. Who would hire you?
Speaker 1Smart people. Some have called you Captain America. You heard that before A couple of times. Is that because of your looks or because of your lack of personality?
Speaker 2I like that. I'll go with looks, looks.
Speaker 1That was a good one. I wasn't ready for that. When I first met you in person, I thought you would be more muscular.
Speaker 2No fair.
Speaker 1Is that because you've let yourself go since your plane days?
Speaker 2Well, I was beefier, that's for sure. I was a 255-pound animal, lots of muscle. What animal were you? Hmm, that's a good question. What animal was I? I'll have to think on that, okay.
Speaker 1You said it. Where were you drafted?
Speaker 2I went to the Chargers Undrafted. Oh, so you really weren't picked.
Speaker 1They picked me, you kind of just begged them to take you. Yeah, it was knocking on the door, yeah, they couldn't get rid of me, so they just said, oh, we'll see how much did you pay Norv Turner to say you were good.
Speaker 2You know what that was? The most fulfilling thing, uh, of my whole nfl experience is to have someone like him, who has coached thousands of guys, to stop me not once, not twice, multiple times and say you're gonna have a long career, I feel really proud about that.
Speaker 1Yeah, you almost made it one season, yeah, almost. Um how many times did you babysit philip rivers?
Speaker 2seven kids you know late night film sessions yeah, he'd be in there with half of them, and so I got to see him and see him around his kids, and I'm surprised he doesn't have more.
Speaker 1Yep, wow, he has sex that often. Why did you say that? Oh God, I don't understand why you said that. How else would you know you should have more? I can't even see, I'm just crying it's very awkward thing to say, um, in the locker room, would you ever check out other dudes? Uh, if you and stratton brown were to go head to head, who would win? I would win.
Speaker 2I just sold a deal for him too. So I I just stole a deal, sold a deal, you sold the deal, sold a deal for him. Stratton's my boy. Uh, I give. I got to give all the props I possibly can to Stratton. He has helped me in my career multiple times and he's just a stand-up guy. Good dude, he really cares about other people.
Speaker 1None of those things have ever been said about Stratton Brown before. How?
Speaker 2does it feel?
Speaker 1knowing that he went to a better college than you, but you made it further in the NFL than him.
Speaker 2A little jealousy, went to a better school. Honestly, I grew up really close to Fresno State. They offered me a walk-on and to me that was an insult. At the time I played against Fresno State my senior year and love Fresno State. I would have liked to have gone there. They beat you senseless. Oh, they definitely did.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, we had people crying practically because it's kind of like when I beat you in real estate, in real life.
Speaker 2No that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1That doesn't happen. Okay, you have an event coming up called the Deal Champs Summit. Oh man, my eyes are just watering too much. And this is because you brought me, so I bring the deals. I'm the champ and you, stratton and Jason are the summit. That's all you all bring.
Speaker 2We're going to let you feel good about yourself, and we will say that just for today.
Speaker 1How long do I get to speak at that event? Six, seven, eight hours. You know, out of all the speakers, it's the least amount of time. Sounds about like a fullback, solid decision. Oh, oh, my eyes sure uh, greatest achievement in football.
Speaker 2What are you writing over there, deal champs? There's nothing on there at all. Where are these questions?
Speaker 1coming from deal champs.
Speaker 2There's nothing on that paper. This is the best interview ever you're reading from a paper with no words on it. This is great. This is too good. That's skill, that's talent, right there guys, those are deal champs. That is talent right there, that's respect.
Speaker 1First time you've ever seen someone talented, it's probably because you played for the Chargers. Were you in San Diego or LA? San Diego? Yeah, the real Chargers, old as fuck. So what's your greatest achievement in football? Well, making it to the NFL. What did you do in the NFL? Did you ever have a carry Played?
Speaker 2football. Did you have a carry At fullback? You don't have a lot of carries.
Speaker 1Did you have a reception?
Speaker 2I had a reception. I didn't have a carry how many yards on that one reception? It was like six or seven yards. Man, you still got the ball. I did not keep the ball. That's not a keep the ball kind of moment but if it was a touchdown I probably would have.
Speaker 1Philly boy didn't run over and say hey, dean, pay that home.
Speaker 2No, he didn't grab my ass on that one like you often do.
Speaker 1Okay, whatever, bro, what's your greatest achievement in real estate?
Speaker 2Uh, without giving stats, I'd say just not giving up honestly, Because you lost so much Early years.
Speaker 1I didn't make a lot of mistakes and UC Davis.
Speaker 2I didn't make a lot of mistakes, san. Diego, what were you Early on?
Speaker 1UC Santa Barbara, uc Davis, the Aggies, the University of California, y'all are just fucking confusing. It is confusing. You're the Aggies, the Aggies. Yeah, I thought you were the Banana Slugs.
Speaker 2No, that's Santa Cruz. Oh yeah, the Antelopes, not the Antelopes, I think that's. You see something else Titans, no, titans, fullerton. Are they, fullerton and the Titans? Thought we were playing a game.
Speaker 1I thought you didn't know anything about college.
Speaker 2You didn't even go to college.
Speaker 1Or Texas. That says a lot. That's D1. I'm not surprised you wouldn't know about D1, would you, were you offered any scholarships for D1? Well, uc Davis, that's not.
Speaker 2Division I it's SDS. Fair D1AA it's SDS.
Speaker 1Fair D1AA Just way down there.
Speaker 2Any.
Speaker 1FBS schools. It's down there.
Speaker 2Or any of them. It's down there. I had several walk-on offers. Louisiana Tech was interested. Nevada Reno was interested in giving me a scholarship. Uh, fresno state was a walk on um. Boise state was a walk on Um. I didn't get the love I wanted. I mean, do you ever watch like?
Speaker 1on a random Saturday afternoon, like two Sunbelt teams playing in front of 3000 people, and realize you weren't good enough to be on those two schools.
Speaker 2You know as a tall white running back with not the greatest amount of speed. Hey, we can't talk about you being white.
Speaker 1Okay, I already got canceled from Disney for being a white supremacist, yeah, so we can't talk about that Now, I'm just trying to bring the spotlight back to you.
Speaker 2Just, dude, now I'm going to have to bring a black guy You're going to be canceled again.
Speaker 1What Dude? No, no, it's just a Viking symbol. Okay, it's a Viking symbol, sure, that's it. Whatever, I don't know if people are going to want to know why I brought the white retired running back in. Yeah, thanks, dean. What's your greatest achievement in life? I'd say having four kids, is it? Yeah, wow, riveting, I know so you're really good at just second.
Speaker 2Second is definitely being on in between two belts.
Speaker 1I mean that's pretty, pretty close so I just want to make sure that we're on the same page. Your greatest achievement in life is just pumping it in there four times.
Speaker 2That's the best achievement? Uh, no, it's.
Speaker 1it's who they are uh, and who they're going to be is what they're.
Speaker 2A lot like their mom there is. There is a lot like them. That is like them, like their mom. Do they look like you? No, they look like a perfect mix of the two of us and they all look like each other. Is your wife happy? You got to ask her that.
Speaker 1You don't know Depends on what day. Last time I asked her she didn't say yes.
Speaker 2When did you talk to her?
Speaker 1All right, guys. That's our episode with Dean Rogers, captain America. Oh shit, we'll see you guys next time. Oh oh, oh, oh oh.