The Titanium Vault hosted by RJ Bates III

Oh, That's F***ing Adorable | Vultures Are The Worst Squatters

RJ Bates III Episode 371

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Speaker 1:

oh, that's fucking adorable. All right, welcome to this edition of oh that's fucking adorable, where I tell stories about our journey as a real estate investor that literally there's nothing else to say other than oh that's fucking adorable. That's my saying when I feel pain, when I can't believe what I'm hearing. And there's no way in the world this is actually happening to us. Today we're going to be talking about back in the day when we used to flip houses. All the time we had deals going on all across the united states.

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Here in our backyard in fort worth, texas, we were doing a luxury flip and the luxury flip got overtaken by vultures. Now you might be thinking like rj, come on, I mean, it's vultures. Now you might be thinking like RJ, come on, I mean it's vultures. Right, you just hire someone, they come out and they remove the vultures. No, no, no, that's not the case. That's not the case. See, here's the thing I want to bring up, slide number one to show you guys what we're dealing with. Slide number one here. Let's make it full screen so you can see. Vultures are protected in Texas through the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 and Texas State Statute. The act protects native non-game birds in the US, including the black vulture and the turkey vulture, which are native to North Texas. It's illegal to intentionally harm or kill vultures without a permit. Now, that being said, we didn't have to kill them, right? We could have just had them removed, right? Well, the problem with having them removed is is that when we noticed the vultures, we didn't think a whole lot about it. Like, we noticed them, like on the house, you know, we noticed them in the yards and we were working, like we were actively working, on the property.

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We were in the middle of the rehab, very extensive rehab. Okay, uh, this is a multi-million dollar property, close to 6 000 square feet, needed a complete rehab. So the the rehab took us a long time. And then we had other issues with the property itself. It had a metal roof that was leaking, and it didn't start leaking until we had already finished the rehab. And then we had leaks throughout the house, which caused us to have to figure out how to fix the leak without having to replace the roof, because it would have cost us literally close to $100,000 to replace the roof. So there was a lot of issues that were going on with this property. In and of itself, we didn't really think that we needed to be concerned about vultures, right? I mean, if you're at a property and you notice a vulture, you kind of think maybe there's a dead animal. You don't think that they're going to take nests.

Speaker 1:

Well, this property was a little bit unique because it had a courtyard. So let me bring up what I mean. This is the best picture that I could find of this. So this is obviously the interior of the house. This is like a dining room slash office area. Well, these doors lead to this courtyard area. Okay, so the only way that you could access this courtyard was through these doors, and on this the sidewall right here was windows into the kitchen. Okay, so this courtyard right here didn't really have anything in it, and this property kind of looked like a castle okay, that's what we called. It was the castle. So it had a wooden deck right out here that you would step out and then you would step down into the courtyard.

Speaker 1:

Well, the vultures actually took nest inside of the courtyard, and the reason why we could not remove the vultures was is because they laid eggs in the courtyard, and when vultures or any bird that falls under this Act of 1918, you have to wait until the eggs hatch and the juvenile birds become adults for them to be removed. So they laid two eggs inside of the courtyard and became very protective over the eggs. I mean to the point where when we would pull up to walk the property, they were aggressive. They would be sitting up on top of the house, they would swoop down, they would have these aggressive calls towards us, they would be walking with their, their wings spread like they're gonna come get us. I mean it was, it was intense, um, and and there was nothing we could do. We called people and it's like, unfortunately, due to the this act, it's illegal to do anything. Um, so the eggs we had to wait on them to hatch. Both of them hatch, uh, and then there's two baby vultures and then we had to wait until they grew up to become adults and, uh, this was a luxury flip. I mean it was. It was killing us. I mean we got the point where we finished the rehab and, uh, the property just had to basically sit and wait because we couldn't list the property with these vultures. I mean they were aggressive, they're sitting inside of this courtyard. And then the other thing that we found out is is that vulture poop is acidic and so it was doing extreme damage to the property the wooden deck. We basically had to replace Anything that the poop basically touched, it damaged. So on some of the roof, on some of the wedges of the roof, had to be repaired. I mean, it was intense, it was crazy.

Speaker 1:

We have a couple other pictures here of the vultures that I took. I guess I was feeling funny during this. One wanted dead or alive. So this is actually three of the four vultures. As you can see, I think this is one of the babies. This is right as we were nearing the end, like all right, it's time. Right, these vultures, they've got to go. And then I've got one more. This shows them kind of sitting up on the top ledge being. That's what they would do right there. You know, they would spread their wings and this one's kind of landing. But that's also what they would do if they were being aggressive towards you. So they would sit up here on top of the fireplaces this house had five or six fireplaces, um so they would sit up there, they would sit on the roof and if you pulled up I mean they were, they were aggressive, uh, they would come after you.

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So we hired someone to come out to remove the vultures. Once the baby vultures grew up and it was interesting, they basically they put down like this sticky glue type material on the wedges and so what would happen is is that the vultures would land in their, their claw would would get on there and it would bother the vulture, and then the vulture would try to like eat or lick it off and and then it was extremely like spicy, like it hurt them, it irritated them, and so that was like to try to get them to want to move away from that. And then some of the ledges we actually had to put spikes on, so this property already looked like a castle and now we're literally like putting like a battle gear to to make the vultures want to move away from the property. I mean, it was insane. So it wasn't like a quick process to get the vultures out, even when we could. Even that took a couple of weeks. And and then I felt really bad because the vultures just literally moved from our property to the neighbor's property. So as we listed the property, we would show up and then we could see all four vultures literally on the neighbor's roof and I was like, oh my goodness, these poor people. They don't even know what they've got themselves into. It was a crazy experience. And then the last experience that I had with the vultures I'll never forget. I wish I could have gotten it on camera.

Speaker 1:

But me and Cassie we were driving out to look at the property. It was like a final walkthrough, something like that. Just we need to go out there to grab stuff from the property probably Cassie's realtor sign and some other things and we're driving down. So this property is located by TCU and so once you pass Hewlin, which is like a main thoroughfare over by TCU, it kind of becomes a quieter road, but still like the main street that you would turn off of to go down our street that the property set on, and so we're going down it and over by TCU they've got trees that overgrow the street and it's pretty and really nice houses like multimillion-dollar houses in this area, and we're like I don't know, an eighth of a mile from turning down the street and one of the vultures I think it was one of the parents was sitting in the middle of the street and as we approached it the vulture turned to the car and I slowed down and basically come, came to a complete stop and the vulture just spread its wings and started walking right towards the car. It was like and I'm like what I'm in a car. I cannot believe, after all this pain and misery of dealing with these vultures for months and waiting on their eggs to hatch and then waiting on the juvenile vultures to grow up and we finally get you removed and we're done. We're finally done with this miserable project. One last interaction with the vulture and he's literally saying I will attack your car and I just floored it and he flew off. And, man, just what a crazy experience we had.

Speaker 1:

So listen, anytime you have any sort of wildlife involved with the flips or property you own, don't wait, take care of it. I would have never thought that we would have had to wait and spend the amount of money that we spent on holding costs, property taxes, insurance, utilities. I mean, it killed us, killed us and all profit on this deal was lost hand over foot because of the time that it took on the rehab, the setbacks that we had, but then also just this situation with these vultures. So, oh man, was it fucking adorable? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I definitely said oh, that's fucking adorable many times, specifically when I said I said, hey, you are a specialist at removing vultures. Uh, come get rid of these vultures on my property. And they're like, oh we, we can't do that. That was the oh, this is fucking adorable moment. So, hey, be weary of vultures, be weary of any wildlife involved with your properties. It's not good. It's only going to cost you time, money and just a ton of mental fortitude to deal with the fact that you're just waiting on life to pass you by as you're waiting on two baby vultures to become grownups. Let me know what you think about this story. Leave me a comment, make sure you like the video and we'll see you next week on. Oh, that's fucking adorable.