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The Titanium Vault hosted by RJ Bates III
RJ Bates III, affectionately referred to as the Viking Wizard by his students, started his real estate investing career in 2014 after attending a real estate education program that put him $65,000 in debt. RJ contracted his first deal he found on the MLS and wholesaled it for a $7,500 assignment fee. That was the end of his former life and the beginning of his venture into becoming a real estate investor. Since that moment, RJ has become an influential figurehead in the real estate investing industry. He has successfully purchased and sold over 2,000 properties all across the USA including wholesale deals, rehabs, rentals, owner finances and short term rentals. One of his passions is being the host of The Titanium Vault Podcast where he interviews the top real estate investors. He has won back to back Closers Olympics earning him the reputation as the King Closer! Finally, RJ and Cassi DeHaas, his partner, have started their education platform called Titanium University.
The Titanium Vault hosted by RJ Bates III
Between Two Belts with Trevor Mauch
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Just hold the hold the jig just like that. Not that closer. Hello, welcome to Between Two Belts. I am your host, RJ Bates the Turn. Today I'm sitting down with Trevor. Mock mock mock. Why why is the CH Hard?
SPEAKER_00:Do you do you know German? No. No, not not not that I know of. Not that I know of. I do like Elon Musk though. He's good. Oh, it's gonna be that kind of an episode.
SPEAKER_01:Out of the gates. Alright. Trevor, what is it that you do for a living?
SPEAKER_00:Um have a I have a company called Carrot. Yeah. It's like it's like the vegetable.
SPEAKER_01:Why why would you name your company carrot?
SPEAKER_00:Well, there there's lots of good reasons. Um first of all, I'm allergic to carrots. It's the only only food I'm actually allergic to is carrots, which is a true story.
SPEAKER_01:And so you named your company after it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Why?
SPEAKER_00:The second reason uh that I that I named it after carrot uh was uh it's actually a functional reason, right? You we help people get leads, you dangle this thing in front of people and they cat they catch it, they capture it, they they bite the carrot.
SPEAKER_01:That's okay. So you uh you help people get leads.
SPEAKER_00:Help help people get leads, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So you dangle a carrot in front of their face.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, yes, exactly. And it works. Millions of them.
SPEAKER_01:How did you think of this?
SPEAKER_00:Um, dude, so the the way I originally thought about it was I I had that problem. I couldn't get leads, so I learned how to do this thing, learn how to build websites that actually worked.
SPEAKER_01:Real estate or something else?
SPEAKER_00:For real estate primarily.
SPEAKER_01:You wanted to invest in real estate.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. And then I helped real estate investors, real estate agents do the same thing as a like a consultant. And it was too much work to set these things up one by one, these websites up one by one. And so just made a system to do it. I hired a web dude, paid him 10 bucks an hour, whatever it was, and had him build this thing for me to automate it. And that turned into a lot more people wanting it, and then 8,000 people wanting it.
SPEAKER_01:Are you like the richest guy in this room?
SPEAKER_00:In this room? Definitely not in this room, no. No, it's gotta be you.
SPEAKER_01:Not counting.
SPEAKER_00:Dude, you've got two belts. I don't have any. I have no belts. I have no belts.
SPEAKER_01:Where are you from, Trevor?
SPEAKER_00:Uh, from a small town in Oregon called Roseburg, about 25,000 people.
SPEAKER_01:So you just love communist countries?
SPEAKER_00:Germany, Oregon? Oregon, Oregon, uh, so we live in a conservative part of Oregon. Big time. It's it's so the one to the timber capital of America is in this county that we live in. And it's it's hyper conservative.
SPEAKER_01:Why did your state literally come up with the worst regulation for wholesaling?
SPEAKER_00:Dude, they they come up with a lot of amazing regulations. So uh the last couple years, you can shoot up meth in front of a cop now and not get arrested. Um, you can take psychedelic mushrooms in front of a cop and not get arrested.
SPEAKER_01:Have you told Frank Chen about this?
SPEAKER_00:No. No, so we're gonna go. We're dude, we're we're on fire all the time with our regulations. I think we just like to try things that are really crazy and stupid and then see how it works, and we're the experiment petri dish for the rest of America, I think.
SPEAKER_01:I uh I did a deal in Portland, Oregon once, and I had to pay an art tax.
SPEAKER_00:An art tax? Yes. Was there art in the property? There was not. That's that's an interesting one.
SPEAKER_01:He sent me a bill for$235 for art.
SPEAKER_00:So I why do you still live there? Yeah, dude, it's have you've been there, right? No, you've never been there. I'm gonna get you there. That's why I've never come. I'm gonna get you there. So family's there first. So family's, you know, we're we're tight with family, but the nature, anytime we we head back into town, dude. So I I love Florida. We're sitting in Florida right now. Love it here. But I fly back home, everything's green. You've got the river right by behind my house, waterfalls flowing, fly fishing out the backyard. Um, it's the people and it's nature. It's miserable.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, the nature makes sense. You like it here in Florida?
SPEAKER_00:I I enjoy visiting here.
SPEAKER_01:This place is miserable.
SPEAKER_00:We were here. This is my third time here this year. I feel like we were here in June and it was terrible.
SPEAKER_01:Out of a shower right now.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, dude. You should have been here in June. It was it was worse in June. This place is bad.
SPEAKER_01:It was horrible.
SPEAKER_00:So, where do you live?
SPEAKER_01:Uh Fort, Texas.
SPEAKER_00:It's not hot there, it's hot. It's not soupy, but it's a dry a dry heat, as they say.
SPEAKER_01:Drier than this. We're actually humid there. It's just nothing is worse than this.
SPEAKER_00:Did you say humid or humid?
SPEAKER_01:Humid.
SPEAKER_00:Humid, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Is that true?
SPEAKER_00:I wasn't sure if that was a Texas thing.
SPEAKER_01:Are you married?
SPEAKER_00:I'm I'm married half the time.
SPEAKER_01:How long have you been married?
SPEAKER_00:Almost 20 years.
SPEAKER_01:How did you do that?
SPEAKER_00:How did I get married, or how did I make it last almost 20 years? Um, first of all, I married my best friend. Choking up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Married my best friend, and she's amazing. Her name is Carly. And I made a lot of money. Dude, uh, we we we got together in high school. So she she believed in in the vision before when everyone was teasing the vision.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. When you were like, honey, I'm gonna name veggies.
SPEAKER_00:That's right. She's like, oh, amazing idea. So she believed in it from from day one. No, she uh, dude, I I I think the biggest thing is just number one, uh, marry your best friend. You want to hang out with that person. Number two, um, I I I think for us, we we've always created time for each other. Yeah. Uh there's something that her and I do every year called the pre-stacked year, and we sit down, we've got this fancy little calendar that doesn't look like a calendar that I made, and we write out all the personal stuff that we want to do that year first, all the family stuff, and and we build the year around around those. Um, and then work comes in. And then once a quarter we do a couple's retreat, and so we go away for a night or two and hang out and reconnect and bring that that pre-stacked year back up and say, hey, what do we want to have intention to do this next quarter? Uh, we do date mornings, date nights weren't working um with kids' activities and things like that. So we like, well, how can we guarantee dates happen? So we switch to date to date mornings on Tuesdays and just really having uh having the intentional effort. Uh as they say, you've always got to date your partner. And I think for for seasons that hasn't hasn't done well.
SPEAKER_01:You know, Trevor, this show, I don't know if people know this or not, but it's a satire comedy where I'm supposed to make fun of you.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I was lying about everything. Actually, I just nothing.
SPEAKER_01:Unfortunately, anytime that I interview you, yeah, um I just feel like I'm talking to Jesus Christ. And I have you ever done anything wrong in your life?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I've I've done lots lots of things wrong already.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're gonna like you're gonna say you jaywalked, aren't you?
SPEAKER_00:I jaywalk every day I jaywalk. Every every day I come from the parking garage to my office, I jaywalk every day. What's the worst thing you've ever done in your life? The worst thing that I've ever done in my life.
SPEAKER_01:You're gonna be like, I lied to my daughter one.
SPEAKER_00:So back in grade school, I uh I got sent to the principal's office one time. And there were these girls, and we were doing this science project where we had to measure the perimeter of the school with yarn, and so they measured their five-foot thing of yarn, and before they were had a chance to do it, I cut a foot off of it. And so they went and measured the whole thing and came back with their number and it was off. And and the teacher asked who did it, and my buddy pointed at me, and so I went to the principal's office for cutting a foot of yarn off of a girl's literally the most Trevor Mock story ever.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god. Well, Trevor, we do have a tradition around here at Between Do Belts, and I can't wait to hear what your answer is because there's a trend, and I think you're going to far exceed the trend.
SPEAKER_00:I can't wait for the question.
SPEAKER_01:What is your greatest achievement in life?
SPEAKER_00:Greatest achievement in life so far is having kids that want to hang out with me.
SPEAKER_01:See, to all of the other people that I've interviewed on between two belts, that's how you answer the question. You know what they say? What's that? Being a dad. I'm like, so you pumped and dumped? Like, that's not that hard. We can all become a dad. That's right. That was a good answer. There we go. And that, ladies and gentlemen, if you ever wanted to know what Jesus Christ looks like, or maybe he's the antichrist. I don't think he had kids though. Well, not the original version of you. It's this is the new version. Trevor Mock. Appreciate it, but 2025 Jesus Christ. Thank you, man.