For Love We Heal Podcast

Nondual IFS, Love & Awakening with Dr. Laura Patryas

Alex Bishop, RPC, RCT

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Laura Patryas, an IFS therapist, ordained spiritual minister, and author of Awaken to Love, for a deeply moving and wide-ranging conversation. We talk about spirituality, non-dualism, Internal Family Systems (IFS), romantic love versus unconditional love, and what it really means to “come home” to ourselves.

Laura shares her concept of “duonity,” the experience of wholeness that includes both our divine essence and our very human parts. We explore how the seeking parts of us, especially the ones that are exhausted from chasing healing, are often just trying to get back to love, to presence, and to the feeling of being held. From a non-dual lens, we discuss how reality is not made of separations, but rather a unified field of consciousness that expresses itself through multiplicity. And yet, Laura grounds this vast spiritual view in the gritty, embodied reality of human suffering, trauma, and relationship pain.

Whether you’re on a healing path, wrestling with romantic doubt, or simply curious about the deeper nature of reality, this conversation invites you to soften, zoom out, and remember that the wound is often the portal, and that the love we’re chasing is already within and holding us.