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Join hosts Lee Zimmerman & Billy Hubbard as they take you backstage for conversations with singer songwriters, musicians, and music industry professionals! Lee Zimmerman is a freelance music writer whose articles have appeared in several leading music industry publications. Lee is a former promotions representative for ABC and Capital Records and director of communications for various CBS affiliated television stations. Lee recently authored "Americana Music - Voices, Visionaries & Pioneers of an Honest Sound" which is now available on Amazon and other outlets. Lee also played a key role in securing airplay for Jimmy Buffett’s first major hit, “Margaritaville” so you can blame him for the fact that it’s become something akin to a Parrot heads’ national anthem! During his time at Capital records Lee also worked with such legends as Paul McCartney, Bob Seger, the Steve Miller Band, and others. You can contact Lee at lezim@bellsouth.net.
Billy Hubbard is a Tennessee based Singer/Songwriter signed with Spectra Music Group and was a Regional Director of A&R for a company that published a Grammy winning song in 2013, as well as a music and podcast producer. Billy is also the venue developer and co-founder of the legendary venue "The Station" in East Tennessee. As an artist Billy is endorsed by Godin's Simon & Patrick Guitars and his YouTube channel has had over 3.5 million viewers. Billy's self titled album was released October 2023 by Spectra Music Group and now available on iTunes, Amazon, and all major outlets! You can find Billy Hubbard online at http://www.BillyHubbard.com
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Son of Elvis Part 2 - John Smith Presley Say's His DNA Proves He's The Son Of Elvis & Talks About His New Movie & Netflix Special
Join Billy Hubbard and his wife Sarah on this part 2 special episode with Singer Songwriter John Smith Presley, a man who has presented DNA and other convincing evidence to prove he is the son of Elvis Presley, and his attorney friend/band mate Tony Petty. John was born in 1961 and adopted and raised by an uncle and aunt of Elvis, Ira Dee and Etta Smith.
John is the subject of a film about his life currently in the works based on Rich Carlburg’s book Let The Boy Sing. John is also part of a new Netflix documentary currently in production which is where we caught up with him today.
Paul Cohen, a noted Hollywood investigator, has spent the last eight years collecting new and corroborating evidence John already possessed including verification of his birth certificate. The state of Texas had a systems glitch in 1961 the year John was born that caused the “D” in the word "Date" to show up as an “O.” This was the only year this occurred. Most importantly Paul has obtained DNA comparisons to several verified members of the Presley family, including a first cousin to Elvis, and they match.
John was subsequently adopted by an aunt and uncle of Elvis, Ira Dee and Etta Smith at about 18 months old. Along with John, Ira Dee and Etta also adopted his two older half sisters at the same time to provide a loving stable home for the children. Ira Dee and Etta had no children of their own. John’s birth mom Zona was a cousin to Elvis by marriage, not by blood.
The book title Let The Boy Sing is from a message that was passed on to John's birth mother Zona, and some 30 years later Zona passed the message to John. Gladys Presley was illiterate and didn't write the message "Let the boy Sing" herself. Gladys had a maid named Hattie that wrote down what Gladys told her to write. Gladys passed away in 1958 several years before John was born. The message was intended for Elvis and the future mother of his child based on the feeling Gladys had about her future grandson. When Gladys asked Hattie to write this, the events of John's birth had not taken place. Hattie years later was sent to the house of Ira Dee and Etta Smith to help raise John, just as she helped raise Elvis for Gladys. Hear part 1 of John's story at https://www.buzzsprout.com/1300885/episodes/15646481 and read FAQ's and learn more about John's story at http://lettheboysing.co
Podcast producer/cohost Billy Hubbard is a Singer/Songwriter and former Regional Director of A&R for a company that published a Grammy winning song. Billy is a signed artist with Spectra Music Group and co-founder of the iconic venue "The Station" in East TN. Billy's album was released by Spectra Records 10/2023 on all major outlets! Learn more about Billy at http://www.BillyHubbard.com
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Hello and welcome to another episode of my Backstage Pass. This is your host, billy Hubbard, and I'm here with my lovely wife, sarah. She's sitting in for Lee Zirma. Today we're excited to have John Smith-Pressly back for a part two episode and tonight he's here with his good friend and bandmate sidekick he happens to be an attorney, mr Tony Petty. After they played a great show last night at the station two sold out shows actually over the weekend and we just wanted to have a little update. So it's really cool we're hanging out here together tonight. Guys, how'd you like? Last night it was the first time we saw you live. It was pretty incredible.
Speaker 2:It's the first time we've seen ourselves live. It was amazing.
Speaker 3:We've had a great time. Thanks for having us. Billy and Sarah thank you so much it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Incredible place. Oh my God, it's magical, magical it's been a great weekend well, the people at the state.
Speaker 1:You know we talk about it on here on other episodes but, uh, people don't realize that you know most people think about in nashville you have the broadway and the city lights, but if you can find a place in your town that has a listening room out in the country, I mean it's, it's just an incredible experience. It's's so much better than that kind of atmosphere. I mean, I love Nashville, but I'm just saying Broadway has turned into craziness. Anyway, apart from that, you guys, it was a great show you did and you did a lot of your original music, which was a problem. I mean, I knew you did some original songs, man. You had some great stuff. How long have you been writing? Well, thank you.
Speaker 2:Well, my first song I wrote when I was like seven, and my second song I was like nine, and then my third song was 11, on the luciana hayride oh so you know I was way back, I got four songs in there before I turned 12 wow man, good job.
Speaker 4:Well, you should hear them I, I wouldn't say we did hear a couple and they were really good.
Speaker 1:And you had one last night. I remember you said I think you performed it that you were 12. I forgot the name of the song. One of them you said you were six.
Speaker 2:An Answer to my why was the one that I did on the.
Speaker 4:Louisiana Hayride, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I got to write that with a guy named david rowe. Oh right, yeah, I think it seemed like I've heard of him. He was uh, now you and you were you moved to?
Speaker 2:nashville when you were uh, how old. Well, uh, I was turning 19 and the. The reason that I can remember is because the minute I left california from Welk show and moved to Nashville, the drinking age changed. Oh, it leads to 21. So, yeah, I mean I got to miss out on everything.
Speaker 1:I remember I got under that curtain. I was born, so I know if I got under that you know. So cool that you know so cool. Well, when and tony you were, I mean, this was uh, uh, you know where are you from originally.
Speaker 3:Now, I was well, I grew up in el paso, um, lived in a jersey for a while st louis mozera and uh. Finally, I graduated from el paso once, uh, I joined the Army. I was in the Army for a while. I just moved around.
Speaker 1:Thank you for your service. Yeah, man, thank you, I saw you jumping on airplanes Jumping out.
Speaker 2:He's crazy. That's what that means.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was a long time ago. On purpose, yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh good.
Speaker 3:Well, I was kind of pushed out?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 2:Just like the Toby Keith thing a boot in your you know over there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, man, two things I love about you is lead guitar. I love a good guitar player, and you were tearing it up the last couple of nights, and the fact that you jump out of airplanes makes it even more cool.
Speaker 3:That'd be a show jump out out of airplane while playing guitar. That would be cool yeah wouldn't that be something?
Speaker 1:how did you end up? How did you and john come come together? I know we had. We had another bandmate here who had- to leave uh verge who's? Also uh, attorney, and he, uh. That's where you get. We build the show as John Smith, presley and the at at laws and some people ask me questions. What is that man? I don't think anybody.
Speaker 2:Because they're attorneys. Well, I try to surround myself with attorneys, just in case.
Speaker 1:Well, I noticed that.
Speaker 2:You get that case yeah.
Speaker 1:That's what I said last night. I said it's like the Secret Service you got the president, but he's surrounded by attorneys.
Speaker 4:That's pretty cool, though, but they're helping you establish what you need to establish to determine and prove exactly who you are.
Speaker 1:But which came first?
Speaker 4:Did you need them as a guitar player or an attorney? That's a really good question.
Speaker 2:We were just friends.
Speaker 3:We met about 10 years ago, oh really A little town called Black Canyon City.
Speaker 2:Arizona.
Speaker 3:Arizona. Yeah, we're always staying just north of Phoenix, between Phoenix and Flagstaff.
Speaker 2:And just to brag on you for a minute, tony, you were the commander of the post correct in Black Canyon City.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's an American Legion post and a VFW post there in Black Canyon City.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 3:I'm currently the commander of the American Legion there.
Speaker 4:Wow, man, interesting.
Speaker 2:That's really cool, that is really good, that is cool and believe it or not, virgil, who's the guitar player, bass player, and so wonderful. Virgil was not only in the military, but he was also a, wasn't he a? Colonel? He?
Speaker 3:was a lieutenant colonel. Lieutenant colonel. Lieutenant colonel.
Speaker 2:And then Virgil was also a commander at a post in another town in Arizona, but we didn't none of us knew each other. Wow, it was insane. So I'm in a little town called Dewey Humboldt, and Dewey Humboldt in Arizona is kind of between Flagstaff and Scottsdale, more on the Flagstaff side than the Scottsdale.
Speaker 1:Is that the northern part?
Speaker 2:It's kind of in the middle. But going north and I go to a little American Legion hall and I get up and sing a couple songs because I got a little open mic night, and this gentleman comes over and he goes hey, my name is Virgil and I'd like to meet you, so of course I throw the story out there. Next, thing I know, know, he goes. Well, I play a little guitar too well, little did I know he says a little guitar not little of guitar he played, but so amazing guitar absolutely I discovered that over the weekend?
Speaker 2:yeah, and then at the same time with tony I'm black canyon city at american legion VFW Hall, where he's the colonel, and we did a little show. And the next thing I know I'm like then how come we don't have a group or a band or something?
Speaker 3:Let's get any other and.
Speaker 2:Virgil said well, because we don't have any money to make a band. And so the next thing, you know, tony goes. Well, I don't have any money either, but I'm in the band.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's, awesome. So there we are yeah. Wow, that's a great T-shirt. I don't have any money, but I'm in the band. I'm in the band, exactly. That's a great T-shirt.
Speaker 1:Well, so, and you guys? As far as attorney privilege, do you have some benefits besides guitar?
Speaker 2:Yes, have some benefits besides guitarists. Yes, nothing leaves the table, oh. No you mean benefit like what?
Speaker 1:What do you mean, bill? You have any lawyer benefits? Do you get any kind of advice from these guys? They tell you.
Speaker 2:Heck yeah. Actually it's not really advice, it's more like orders.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Plus these military guys. Yeah, I'd be kind of oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And when you got one of them that was a colonel, I mean a lieutenant colonel.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think me and Tony both listened A couple times, I think it's very impressive that you have Such a team that does surround you that are really working On your benefit, for your behalf, to really establish who you Say you are with the proof that you have. It's very impressive how these men have military or whatever but have guarded you, and then we have to add rich to it.
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely, it's quite a big team. It is a huge team that's coming together.
Speaker 4:And maybe you could have dreamed that big. Maybe you couldn't have, but this is going to be a legal thing, and that's what we have really understood and how much we're excited about it for you.
Speaker 2:And you know, I would have never imagined that at my age now, and of course it's, you know, like I'm like 30. And of course it's you know like I'm like 30. But anyway, I would have never imagined that a team of these incredible people or guys would come together. I mean, we have Rick Parrish, who's incredible with Capstone Films and things like that. We have Virgil Eiler, who is an attorney. We have Tony Petty. We have Rich Karberg, who wrote my first book called Let the Boy Sing.
Speaker 1:And he's about to republish that right.
Speaker 2:It's been republished now.
Speaker 4:Oh, really Okay. We have a new cover. We have to know where we can find that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can find that at our website. It's called lettheboysingco. Yeah, now, not com. Oh, I got it. Yeah, I like to say co, because if you put it in com, well, it'll still work. But we got the CO, and now I'm thinking to myself so who is the CO? Yeah, I'm not sure it would go there or not, it's probably our wives.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I saw that it would go there or not. It's probably our wives. It's a very, very good answer.
Speaker 1:And I was telling some folks at the show. I mean, I know, you know, the first episode we recorded with you was when Virg called me in August of this year 2024, and he told, well, no, I'm sorry. He first emailed me and and as I read it, the further I read it, the crazier it got I started laughing Actually. I kept going down. I thought I was like is he making a joke or something, you know? And then he said, I know this is hard to believe, but give me a call. And so I went out and called him and yeah, and so he kind of filled me in and that's a lot of that's on the first episode explaining that.
Speaker 1:But uh, actually I didn't know until uh, some you know this at the show this past weekend is that he had the credibility of both you guys. You know, I didn't really understand. No, no, hadn't met verge. Well, I met verge. I mean sorry, I hadn't met tony, but the fact and Verge was telling me about the law firm his brother, I think that he was partners with, argued a case with the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2:They did and they won.
Speaker 1:I mean, oh my gosh, how many times has that happened? No, and so the credibility. I think to me in my mind, I'm just saying I think to me in my mind, I'm just saying well, you know, both you guys are very serious. You're not, you know, like a better call Saul or exactly.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what's a. What's really amazing, too, is is that that I I sit here today thinking to myself you know, I'm, I'm, I was. I was so blessed through life and I had so many opportunities and so many things happened and so many things became such wonderful moments in my life, and now I even have more blessed and more moments.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I mean a lot of artists would love to have the support.
Speaker 4:That's how you know it's time.
Speaker 1:Exactly Because it all came together.
Speaker 4:You weren't out hunting, you were just being you doing your thing. I just see a nucleus come together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like the eagles, they say the eagle takes and puts thorns in the nest to get the babies out there to fly. So they can have some more babies, I guess.
Speaker 2:but well, we wanted to use that name for the band, but some these other guys had it so they were like you can't use that one.
Speaker 1:You know, I think yeah well, uh, back up, I was gonna try to remember. I don't remember of course it's been a couple months, but uh, I know the the numbers on the podcast and we've got I've gotten some comments and questions, uh, but are the good numbers yeah, yeah, this is the way to podcast work. Anybody out there in the world of podcast?
Speaker 1:no, I mean, we're, we were in a you know the minor, the well, the top 50, but it's hard to get a, an episode that doesn't plateau, and the first episode if no one's heard that, that was in August 26, published so you can go back and listen. But by the time you hear this, it will be exceeding 100,000, no doubt, and so we just wanted to do a little follow-up. Because of the questions and, to be honest, I can't remember all the questions, but I've got a few of them here um, and and some of them were, um, that we talked about, you know like who the lawyers, you know people, like when you say, oh yeah, this lawyer did that. Well, their lawyers actually have names and they're real lawyers you know, exactly
Speaker 3:yeah they're real people, they're like we're not yeah they're very nice.
Speaker 1:Well, some of the questions, I see we had someone that was saying well, I'm just trying to remember, now I'm just going to throw some things at you just because of all the last couple months. But someone said well, the birth certificate that you have is what? Did they say 1980-something? And they said do you have the original, or how does that work? Do you get?
Speaker 2:well, I was actually born in 1961 and evidently in 1961. Back in those days it was a little bit different, you know when a child was adopted. So when once I was adopted shortly in 1961. I think, tony, it's the word called sealed or seal the records are sealed.
Speaker 2:The records are sealed, as they say, and so it took our. We had an investigator that we met a few years ago Well, actually he's been now with us for and he's on our board. He's been with us now for almost 17 years and I met him through a beautiful, wonderful lady. Her name is Susan Safford, and Susan Safford was the first Vanna White, if you remember the flip those letters you know, guy or girl, you know.
Speaker 2:If you remember the flip, those letters, you know guy or girl, you know. And so, meeting her and she's like you know, john, if you want to prove who you are, you need to talk to this gentleman because he is the investigator of the stars in California, he's I spy international, he's he's the moment and he will find out either you're real or you're not. Well, he found out that you know what it's a real thing.
Speaker 1:Who His?
Speaker 2:name's Paul.
Speaker 1:Cohen, how long ago did that start?
Speaker 2:The first time we spoke with Paul Cohen was almost 17 years ago.
Speaker 4:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then he came on board. So you do know, it's time now that all these people have pulled together.
Speaker 1:Yeah 13 and a half years ago Now. Why would it take so long?
Speaker 2:Well, we had so much information and data and so on and so forth, and back in the day, even 13 years ago, dna was something that no one really gets or proves or has. I mean, it was a little more skeptical than it is today. Today, dna is factual, it's perfect, it's like right on. And over the 13-year course of his investigative work and so on and so forth. And bless him. I'm telling you right now he's a fabulous, fabulous person. He obtained the DNA, he made those things happen and now we're here. We are.
Speaker 1:So he's a real guy too. That's just something else, people you know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:He's a real human.
Speaker 1:So it has some people say, oh, who are these people? And they say you can make up anybody's name. So that's cool. We got the names of your lawyers, which are your bandmates, and the investigator we know.
Speaker 2:Elvis had people surrounding him that they put in place.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:And so I have to believe, now and even later in my life, now that Elvis I've, now I have people surrounding me that are putting the things in place.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just for people maybe like me that can't remember all the details, on the guy named HT, that he was kind of seemed like, if I remember right, he was protecting you or something. And where did he come from and how did he?
Speaker 2:Well, you know years and years and years ago my, of course, for those who may not know a little bit of the story, maybe I can just throw it out there really quickly. But so my adopted father was Gladys Lefsmith Presley. Elvis's mother, gladys Lefsmith Presley's brother, was my adopted father and he was from a little town called San Augustine, texas, which is located, you know, down in Texas, and they have this lake called Sam Rayburn Lake and he's out fishing because he was a fisherman and hunter, you know, back in the day, and he's fishing with his buddy, don Baker. And he and Don Baker are talking a little bit about my career because I'd gone on the Lawrence Welk show at age 15.
Speaker 2:I walked on stage at the Hearst Coliseum in Shreveport, louisiana, and I sang a song which was a big accident because I'd gone from the restroom to the stage. Accidentally, because I came out in the wrong spot. Now, later, maybe we'll even talk about the restroom stuff, because I have a lot of great moments happening in the restroom. But so here we are, things are going along and it's time for me to leave the Welk show and go to Nashville. So, at age 19, I go to Nashville. So this fishing guide in a boat with my adoptive father, are discussing my career and he turns and says the fishing guide. Well, you know some guys in Nashville. You went to school with them, you know.
Speaker 1:You need to call these guys, so that's HT.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you need to call HT.
Speaker 1:What's HT's last name? Does he go by HT or does he go by?
Speaker 2:Can we edit stuff if we mess up? No, I'm kidding, if you can't say it.
Speaker 4:Did he say HT or ID?
Speaker 2:Well, ID was my adoptive father.
Speaker 4:Right, I'm sorry, you confused me a little bit.
Speaker 2:HT became my manager.
Speaker 4:Right, but were they the two talking about your career? I'm confused on who was talking. No, no.
Speaker 2:My adoptive father ID was talking with Don Baker, who was the fisherman.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, okay. So I totally I was going to miss that.
Speaker 2:And he says I got some, we know some guys in Nashville and of course my adoptive father. At that point, I think, was like who the heck do we know, you know, and one thing leads to another and then I get introduced to these gentlemen in Nashville that were amazing. Maybe we probably won't say the name of the label, but they were one of the strongest labels in Nashville as an independent label ever in the history of Nashville.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know who they are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, actually. So I agree. And one thing leads to another. And they invite me to come and sing, and I sing some songs, I record some music. Another and they invite me to come and sing, and I've seen some songs, I record some music and actually my first record, a little song called california calling, went on the billboard charts and was actually promoted by a gentleman named pete bennett or who actually promoted the first time billboard chart song of suspicious minds for Elvis. So these gentlemen, I come to find out later in life that there was a connection even from the start.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah. Well that's interesting now. And, uh, the guy that the investigator on the DNA, I mean in the court system, um, on the DNA, I mean in the court system. I was going to ask Tony. Someone said one comment was anybody can get DNA, which I don't even know what that comment means, but I mean I guess, if you're going to go to court, this guy was certified to testify Forensic scientist.
Speaker 2:Forensic scientist to be able to present Forensic scientist. Forensic engineer. So yeah, they're able to present Forensic engineers. The findings in court, so just anybody can't just come to court and say it's real.
Speaker 3:Well, they can, but they're going to get torn apart if they're lying.
Speaker 4:So there's no way to manipulate DNA.
Speaker 3:Well, it's not 100% foolproof. Well, it's not 100% foolproof, but it is so close that most courts will rely on that evidence. As opposed to what is it? The lie detector test.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can't even take that into court anymore.
Speaker 2:But then they take the other evidence, as Tony can probably tell you. They take the other established evidence, attach that to a DNA, and then you usually and I'm guessing I'm not an attorney, that's why I have a whole bunch of them in my band, you know but then they attach all that evidence and then all of a sudden the courts or the judge says okay, that looks pretty good to me.
Speaker 4:You need to look at this. Yeah Well, I mean, I know I saw some evidence and I don't know if we can talk about it, but I saw some evidence while everybody's been together this weekend that you can't.
Speaker 1:Your photographs and stuff. Yeah, photographs and different things and you just can't argue about it.
Speaker 4:I mean you just kind of. I mean all you do is just look at it and go oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:It is what it is.
Speaker 4:It is what it is, but you can't unsee it.
Speaker 3:Right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4:I mean you just can't unsee it. I mean, okay, like today, even even being in the restaurant.
Speaker 2:How much fun that was, because those little old ladies oh my gosh, you made their world well, I hope they're listening, because they were so adorable.
Speaker 4:Oh they were, and they're just so sweet because I'm like hey, you know, this is Elvis' son and they're like Texas Roadhouse what, what?
Speaker 3:tell us the story, texas.
Speaker 2:Roadhouse right there. In what town is it?
Speaker 4:Alcoa, tennessee. But what's funny was I had to scoot over because Billy had to get out, so I had to scoot over into their table. I'm like, hey, ladies, how you doing. Sorry, I have to invade your spot just a minute, but I'm letting him out and whatever. And so I slid off and he came back and had to slide back over. I'm like, oh, hey, how y'all doing again. Sorry, I didn't mean to crash your party again, but hey guess what they were so sweet you ever heard of Elvis.
Speaker 4:And this lady was like oh, I love Elvis.
Speaker 1:I loved Elvis.
Speaker 4:I'm like well, that's his son. And she was like what, no, what. And the other lady said make him take his hat off.
Speaker 2:I think she even whispered to you.
Speaker 4:I said he kind of looks like him. I know she did. I said I don't know if I make him do that because guys just don't like to take their hats off.
Speaker 3:It was a bad hair day.
Speaker 4:You were so sweet and you're just like, well, I hadn't fixed it yet.
Speaker 2:But I was wearing a Billy Hubbard baseball cap. Oh, absolutely, but she wanted to see you without the hat.
Speaker 4:She wasn't looking for your hair. She wanted to see if you looked like Elvis. And that's when she said he does look like Elvis. And the other lady says can he sing?
Speaker 1:Sarah said let the boy sing.
Speaker 4:I said well, yeah, just pull him up here. Hey, john, will you sing for these ladies? Yeah, that was kind of which got an applause through Texas Roadhouse. It was awesome. They were like oh, I've been getting text messages all afternoon. Well, I must say, if anyone is here.
Speaker 1:Sarah, you look like Lee Zimmerman grabbing these buttons over there.
Speaker 4:I only did it because he told me to You're not fully trained on that board.
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:I thought I was on the Montel show for a moment, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was trying to remember stuff from the first episode and different questions people ask. And let's see, one of the things was well, we touched on it about the legality, about the sealing thing, and I guess, how does that work? Does the parent, if you adopt somebody who decides to unseal it? Is that like you know?
Speaker 3:Well, each jurisdiction is different, but the whole purpose of sealing the records is for privacy. You don't want to. The birth parents don't want everybody to know what they did, who they are, the whole reason. They have their reasons for it. I can understand that. Yeah, so they seal the records. So it's not public information.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then to unseal them. Is that what you guys are?
Speaker 3:trying to unseal.
Speaker 2:Well, what actually happened was, through Paul's investigations and so on and so forth, paul finds the young lady that was actually at the Texas Department of Human Resources at the time that my file was filed. So we obtained two letters that one said the restricted closed file and then one said the non-restricted closed file. So at that point it was kind of game on, and of course again, I'm not in that attorney mode, but I'm thinking game on means maybe we'll find something out. Well, we won't say names, because you know, when you name names you might get yourself a little box or they may want their own privacy.
Speaker 2:But, this young, this sweet, amazing young lady was there at the time of my birth file being filed and she felt that, you know, the people involved were a little more over the top than the norm and so she kind of made a little copy. And it was so great because at the same time when Paul did his investigation, she was the lady that he spoke to and then shortly after that she retired, not giving him the information at that first point, but at the second point she then reached out and she sent us the file.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so bless her heart. Oh my gosh, she that's a lot. Yeah, so bless her heart. Oh my gosh. She's like my bestest friend. I've never met.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, of course, right, so now is all the evidence I know. And you just got the new site you mentioned, lettheboyssingco. Right, do you have is it? Are you putting all the evidence, like the pictures?
Speaker 2:and things. Yeah, there's like some questions, there's evidence, there's the you know what heckfire. I think we even have my birth certificate on there.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What was in her file? Well, back in the day in the 60s, evidently, a mother and a father of a child, married or non-married, had to show proof of who they were from the hospital's point of view for birth certificate's sake and whatnot. And then there were actually some originals of some very profound documentation which totally gave them the proof that not that we needed, but that we wanted to have. Just foreclosure of my own self, my own person. So there was a driver's license, there was a military card, there were different things like that. That pretty much gave me not only closure but confirmation.
Speaker 4:Do you have pictures, photos of that or?
Speaker 2:do you have the originals? We do.
Speaker 4:But they kept the cards and different things, oh, do you now.
Speaker 1:So is there, but is there evidence that you're not able to post at this time on your site? I mean, is there some evidence of what?
Speaker 2:There's some that I don't know that they would post, due to, you know, privacies or moments you know, for just our own moment.
Speaker 4:But there's some things that have to be legally cleaned up, right.
Speaker 2:But there's some things that have to be legally cleaned up, right, but there are some you might go there just to look, because it's kind of cool.
Speaker 4:We did, it was cool.
Speaker 1:Well, there's some things that just from talking to Burge, he mentioned stuff that made me think there was more out there that everybody hadn't seen yet. Okay, and another another question. I just remembered that uh, that came off the, the web, you know, from people listening to the podcast, is uh someone, uh, I don't know the guy's name, but he just like had all this stuff about the elvis's timeline.
Speaker 2:It's like he must have knew where it was every minute of the day and he posted.
Speaker 1:He said this can't be possible because he said Elvis in January I mean July of 1961 at this time was Was that a wedding, supposedly Somewhere?
Speaker 2:July 2nd. Filming a wedding, Filming a movie and such yeah and so. Well, the great thing is, here's what kind of happened.
Speaker 1:He said he didn't like to fly. That's what it was. He said he would always drive because he was afraid of flying Right. I actually didn't know that. Well, I knew he had an airplane private plane.
Speaker 2:And he didn't fly himself, but he did get on an airplane.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The really cool thing was is that there are only from what I'm being told. Of course, back in that day I was a little bit young, you know, to figure out what's going on or who's talking about who but November 14th, 15th and 16th of 1960, elvis. Those are the only three dates that Elvis was unaccounted for, and when I mean unaccounted for surrounded by his entourage or his people that you know took care of him and he worked with. I came along on July 3rd of 1961. And prior to that, because a lot of people will say well you know, on July 2nd of 1961, elvis was at a wedding of one of his guys.
Speaker 1:He was at a movie set. Somebody said At a movie set but there was also a wedding yeah, but on July 3rd.
Speaker 2:That gentleman and Elvis were from what I'm being told were at my birth. There was this really sweetheart lady who was the nurse at the time and I didn't know this until way later in my life, but she had taken a photograph because— oh, I would have snuck one too.
Speaker 4:It was elvish. You would have to, yeah, so that's what he was talking about earlier yeah.
Speaker 2:Her son was a priest and several years back, even during the Paul Cohen moments of investigating stuff, this young man reached out to us.
Speaker 4:Oh.
Speaker 2:So we have those photos, we have those.
Speaker 4:Okay, so those are probably the legal things that Virge couldn't show us, right, because he showed me a few, but he said— so I'm in trouble for talking about it. No, no, he was just saying that there was more that he couldn't show or share, because you all have got to get some things cleaned up shortly. From what he was saying, it was like next week or something.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know. Oh, here's what the other one is. I just remember now.
Speaker 4:And I can't remember there's so many I forgot.
Speaker 1:But one person said I guess they saw a picture of you or something, and they said wait a minute, that can't be that year, because Elvis didn't have sideburns until a certain time in life.
Speaker 3:Right, so you can grow sideburngs in a week.
Speaker 2:Well, hell was a cyborg. You could probably grow those in like an hour. Oh, I think it was a oh it was a picture, and to be, honest I should know this, because it's been like two months. I can't remember but a picture of you know, him holding you maybe yeah, I was actually wrapped in a blanket, oh yeah, and I was actually wrapped in a blanket.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and you still have that blanket. I think I remember you.
Speaker 4:Oh, I did see that that was one of the pictures he showed was your blanket.
Speaker 2:And well, that's cool.
Speaker 4:And Gladys was holding you. No, no, no no, no, grandma had passed many, many years prior. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Even my birth.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, I'm sorry or even my birth.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, I'm sorry, or even my conception Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a few pictures where I was wrapped in a blanket.
Speaker 1:You know, the nurse held me and my dad held me and my mom held me. Oh yeah, so that exact blanket is in the photo. I think we need to go back and check it out. Man, that's pretty cool. Hold, the blanket is in the photo. I think we need to go back and check it out. Man, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:Hold the photo up to the microphone, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look at that. Look at that man. Oh, that's pretty cool. Well, I'm just trying to go through a few questions. Let's see what else was. Let me look here. These are things from the show. Last night we had some people write down questions. Everyone knows where he she was when Elvis died. Where were you?
Speaker 2:You know, on the date of his supposed death I was with the Lawrence Welk show but I was coming home, back home.
Speaker 4:And not knowing who I was.
Speaker 2:I was coming back home to Louisiana. At this point, no, not knowing and realizing really who I was, because I didn't find out until later in life I was 27. But so I'm on an airplane coming back from the Lawrence Welk show where I performed, and of course they announced it over the intercom. Oh really, yeah, Kind of like 30,000.
Speaker 4:And you didn't know that you were his son, then no, oh, wow, well. Everybody, yeah, kind of like 30,000 people. And you didn't know that you were his son, then no, oh, wow Well everybody.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like. When Kennedy was shot I remember I was in on the school bus and I felt sick as a little kid. I didn't know why, I just was sad.
Speaker 2:I have to say I teared up, even though I didn't know who it. Well, let's see. I want to look at another question. It said is all the evidence you're the son of El was public.
Speaker 2:Yet I think I might have something like that early, because I'm not sure I'm going to go out on a limb and say that at least 80 to 90% of it is out there. Yeah, you know, and I guess the other percentage is if they don't want to believe that Elvis might have had, you know, another child besides the you know, of course wonderful. Lisa Marie, then hey, yeah.
Speaker 4:That's your choice.
Speaker 2:That's your choice, that's your moment, but I have to tell you in my lifetime as an entertainer which not even knowing most of it that I was connected in that way.
Speaker 4:I've had a lot of fun, so.
Speaker 2:I'm going to guess that someone of his magnitude, you know probably had a little bit of fun too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and this is one from last night too. I think someone said did Colonel Parker know about you?
Speaker 2:And yes, as a matter of fact, I think last night at the show we showed a little photo there. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Virg showed a little photo there.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, yeah, Virg showed me that picture yesterday, with Carl Parker holding us.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well.
Speaker 4:I have a question. So I saw he also showed me a picture of you on Elvis' bus.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Did you ever at some point in your life, even maybe after that, think why was I on Elvis's bus?
Speaker 2:You know, amazingly enough, my adoptive parents were connected Because, first of all, they were family, and so all my adoptive fathers sang in the Deep South Quartet, which later became some quartets you know, of names for Elvis so. I was connected. I saw things. I was, you know, privy to things.
Speaker 2:I was, you know, at certain things, and so on, and so forth, but the reality of this is I'm believing in my heart and my moment that you know, these people that have taken me adopted me and even from day one, when we were old enough to understand, they told us that we were adopted, which was fabulous.
Speaker 4:Kind, very kind.
Speaker 2:And so, from that moment on, I just hung out and respected the most glorious moments that I had as a child.
Speaker 4:Okay, that makes sense. I mean, we all have odd family memories and it's just because we're connected to the family, exactly. I mean I understand that.
Speaker 1:Well, this is something I wanted to ask. Tony. So I mean you know, of course, being trained as you are, you hear a lot of stories and you imagine that you kind of get pretty good gut feelings for truth. I mean, if you say, if you know you never met John before, I mean I don't know, putting you on the spot here, but then you beat him. Yeah, I mean, would you feel confident you could win this case? You know, if you had to prove based on what you've seen, Well, that's a tricky question.
Speaker 3:I'm confident that I could win this case. Based on what I've seen, I have no doubt in my mind that John is legitimate. I've known him for quite a while and he and I are friends. First of all, I've known him, like I said, for 10 years and we play guitar, sing karaoke and just get in trouble together.
Speaker 2:We're two friends At Southwest Airlines, by the way. Is that a commercial? I don't know.
Speaker 3:So I'm not with him because of who he claims he is. I just like the guy. We're just buds.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But I believe him Based on the evidence Based on the evidence. I've seen and the people I've talked to and everything that's gone into this, but at the same time, I know how difficult it is too. Are you going up against, uh, people who are trying to protect their interests? And I can understand that, yeah, so it wouldn't be easy. Whether the you know it's true or not. Like I said, I believe it's. It is, but it is, it's not going to be easy.
Speaker 1:I guess I meant your per. You know your personal opinion based on because I know what you mean. I guess you guess you get a jury.
Speaker 3:Yes, you never know what they're going to do but exactly your personal experience, so I thought you know personally, I, I, I think if we could present the evidence like we have, like everything we have, and we have intelligent people evaluating all this, with a judge Jerry, I have no doubt that they would believe him and say that he is Elvis' son.
Speaker 1:Well, that's cool, because that's really a trust, that's really amazing.
Speaker 2:If I can just throw something out here. What's really amazing is, first of all, tony, thank you so much for that. But secondly, you know what? Even if there's a doubt, I mean even if someone's like adamant and says, oh my goodness, elvis only had one child, right, yeah, and of course he had one child, but he had more than one child. But the one child he had was amazing. The one child he had was special. The one child that he had was incredible. But even with that said, if it's for lack of better words, a naysayer is that how they say that Like a naysayer or someone negative on that point, you know what?
Speaker 2:Then that's their personal opinion and we are all entitled to that opinion. My moment from my heart would be see the story, read the story, yeah see the man understand the man and the story that the man is telling, and then make your own decision, because, because, that's, that's why, we're in america, just just make your own decision yeah, and personally, I mean everybody that knows me personally and I'm I'm I'm very skeptical about anything but Verge.
Speaker 1:of course, you know you have two great guys here that are very credible, so that to me, if I was, I always think.
Speaker 2:I got a whole team of guys too, Not just these two great ones. Oh yeah, I see what you're doing.
Speaker 1:You're building this team, I heard a lot about that.
Speaker 2:The rest of them are amazing, oh my, of guys too, not just these two. Oh yeah, building this team I heard about that.
Speaker 1:Amazing, oh my gosh well anyway, I I just want people to you know to understand the best they can. You know what?
Speaker 2:and I think people should probably hear this coming from me too billy and and that's this, you know what make a decision if decision, if you need to make a decision, or just go with the story or don't go with the story, you know, be negative against that, but let's all not really totally be negative, but let's all just hang out, let's just all have fun. Let's just all say to ourselves you know what Good, bad story, indifferent story, crazy story, ridiculous story or non-ridiculous, proven story, non-ridiculous story Very interesting story.
Speaker 2:Yes, very interesting story, but in result, you know what? Let's all just love each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And be a part Exactly Kumbaya thing you know, you know what.
Speaker 4:Before you throw the story out, look at the evidence.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 4:Look at it and you know, Because you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Even in a court of law, that's the first thing they would tell you. You know, I think, and I'm not a judge, but I've watched a little Judge Judy, you know.
Speaker 4:You know, tony.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I know Tony.
Speaker 4:And my thought would be this.
Speaker 2:My thought would be you know what. Here's some evidence. If you're on that jury, you listen you take it in you make a decision.
Speaker 4:Research Do some research.
Speaker 2:Right or wrong, you make that decision. Good or bad, you make that decision. You know what? But any decision that someone might make or wants to make, or creates or makes, if I'm standing there in front of the court and the court says who are you? And I hand them a packet, they review that packet and they say to themselves, oh my gosh, this is because you know what. Some things you just can't make up, do you know?
Speaker 4:that someone's opinion of the evidence does not change who you are.
Speaker 2:Correct, correct.
Speaker 4:And so it doesn't matter what their decisions are. You are who you are.
Speaker 1:Well, I just want to say too, but for folks out there that listen to the podcast, I think they know we have some major artists on here and we're not like a Jerry Springer podcast, so this is a serious thing.
Speaker 1:Thank goodness I won't be a Jerry Springer, but I just want people to realize the credibility that I would not have you even on here, if I to me, if to me money, like you say, if you don't put money on something, then you know what you believe that faith is hard he would not have had you at the station yeah, but because that's where his reputation is way out there it's like the coming up election, you know.
Speaker 1:You know. I saw something on the news about the people that bet on it, the odds makers. I think, well, if I was going to put money on it, I must believe you, because I would put my money, you know, if I had you know, a couple
Speaker 3:bucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I put it over here on you and be in truth, mainly because I've seen stuff. I don't know if it's out there yet, but I'm just talking to these guys.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, when we played the station two days ago and then last night, I would hope that everyone in the audience, in both audiences, that what they took home was you know what. Whether they believe or they don't believe, I hope that our music touched their heart, I hope our music gave them something to take home and smile about whether they're a naysayer or a heck yeah-tsayer? Yeah, man.
Speaker 4:Well, a lot of people we spoke to last night, were very excited to have heard you and to have met you. Wonderful group oh my gosh, you know what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll go on record but we can bleep this out later. You know that I'm 63 years old and I've gone to everything from the Lawrence Welk Show as a child to Nashville, to recording records, to making songs, to writing songs, to playing in bands and so on and so forth. And last night and night before last, I will have to say, was magical because oh cool everyone, everyone I saw in that audience everyone I met everyone I spoke to, and then some were the most kindest, most wonderful people I've ever been connected to.
Speaker 4:They are a fabulous group of people and they appreciate music so much. You know, it took me a couple years to figure out. I had to shut up, you know, because I didn't grow up with any appreciation or understanding of music because of my raising um, but he, billy, taught me so much. I mean, I, I, I used. I mean if I was going to listen to anything, it would have been 80s rock and you know what's so great.
Speaker 2:what you just said about you know being quiet at a time. My moment at this point would be this you know what? Hey, let the boy sing. Oh yeah, and then you make the decision of whether you're on board or you're not on board. But even if you're not on board, you're still on heart, right, and this you know.
Speaker 1:we could, you know, go through questions all night and there's always. They're never going to end. So I'm not trying to convince anybody. I just want everybody to look at you know, as you get your website going. Go to your website, which is lettheboysingco, and I'm sure it's going to just get set up. I mean, this is kind of like a breaking kind of news thing because you just got your website set up. It is. The website the Facebook, your team you're talking about.
Speaker 2:There's other things on there, Spot of Something, Insti-somethingbody or whatever those are and Insti-somethingbody or whatever those are. So Sarah proposed the question to me of the night that supposedly Elvis met my mother and was with my mother.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, that's a serious question. Everyone wants to know that one. Oh, it's a famous question.
Speaker 2:So my moment and attitude and answer would be this First of all, I wasn't there just yet, but shortly after I kind of came along. So in between that time I will have to say this, because I just want to go on record I believe that not only is Elvis Presley the greatest entertainer that has ever hit our world, I agree. Not only is he one of the most spectacular performers ever in our world, he captured the world. Yes.
Speaker 4:He captured them.
Speaker 2:And from the things that I've heard from his moments of oh my gosh, I passed by someone and bought them a car, or I met someone that needed a home. I would like to go on record and my attorney buddies are going to go. Oh, you know what that happens when you say you go on a record. Well, I will confirm this moment. You know what? Whether he did something correct or wrong, I believe his heart was in the proper place.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, yes, that's why everyone loved him, because he was genuine.
Speaker 1:Exactly, he was a giving heart.
Speaker 2:And that's what I hope. Good or bad, indifferent, believable or not, that's what I hope to accomplish.
Speaker 4:I believe that waitress at Texas Roadhouse thought that today.
Speaker 1:Maybe, so, Now just to update what's happened in the last, I don't know, in the last couple months, since you were were here before. To follow up on the other first episode is what? Uh, like I remember you said you're, you guys were getting a committee together. I mean, can you kind of update us on what?
Speaker 2:well, we we have. We now have a board of directors. Um, they're the most wonderful people in my mind, most wonderful people ever that I've been connected with, although I've been connected with a lot of wonderful people. So we have a board of directors. We're talking with a wonderful, wonderful actor producer named Silk Cozart. We have a brand new buddy that we met when we first came here to Knoxville, you know, back then in August Danger, dr Danger, who's been on the show.
Speaker 4:Gosh, what a nice man he is. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:He's been on America's Got Talent like four or five times.
Speaker 4:He was so nice A stuntman right, well, I'm thinking to myself.
Speaker 2:well, first of all, he blows himself up and catches on fire, so that's kind of scary.
Speaker 4:But that's why he has short hair, yeah.
Speaker 2:So we don't let him drive the bus or anything.
Speaker 1:You know just in case. And he was here to film your shows at the station For Netflix.
Speaker 2:We've got a little trailer thing I think they call that. That's being presented as we speak.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're being created To Netflix Okay.
Speaker 2:For a little drama documentation. Yeah, our movie is right out there. It's coming in 2025.
Speaker 1:As far as the movies, I think we were talking that Warner Brothers may distribute it or produce it. Now you're thinking it may switch to Twitter. Well, the hope was that Warner Brothers may distribute it. Now you're thinking it may switch. Well, the hope was that Warner.
Speaker 2:Brothers would distribute it. But now we're Silk, with his wonderful people who surrounds him and his casts, and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1:We're looking at.
Speaker 2:Lionsgate, lionsgate, yeah, and you know what my response there would be. I would be so appalled but yet so entwined if they would accept what we're throwing out there and what we're talking about, what we're showing, and I think they're going to, because bottom line is we have a story. Our story is and came from the day I was born until now.
Speaker 4:Maybe my story is controversial but my story is honest, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think America needs a story, a story, a storyline and a presentation and a movie and a moment that today says that's honest uh, yeah, and that's something that you can't really get across of a podcast.
Speaker 1:You know, like I, of course, we know you guys and we've hung out with you. We actually have had a really great opportunity to spend some time with you when we did our first podcast.
Speaker 4:We did not know you.
Speaker 2:And now we've had an opportunity to actually spend some time with you and get to know you, and you guys have been so fabulous. We've been in your home. You've allowed us in your home.
Speaker 4:But we got an opportunity to really hear. I have never heard so many stories in my whole dang life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh you know everybody everywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, here's. Something I just want to say is that we have a lot of people in our home, but I mean just because of the venue and different things in Princeton.
Speaker 4:Nashville and music business.
Speaker 1:But and we I feel like that that we can we can judge people pretty quick, and Sarah especially man, she'll lock you in the band cave and not let you out, but so anyway that that kind of something that nobody else can do. So but I'm just saying. I think as people see more and more they'll understand. But the bottom line is we don't care what the naysayers, you know, there's nothing wrong with that. Everybody has their own level of belief, you know.
Speaker 2:Exactly you know what, at the end of the day day, I hope everybody takes home something and that would be this if we've touched you emotionally, if we've touched your heart, if we said something or sung something that has made your life better oh yeah, like the show last night then we've done our
Speaker 1:job. You did some good stuff that I could tell. You brought out something in the audience there. Well, hey, man, we're going to wrap this thing up and I feel like we may have to do a part three, because you're kind of on a journey here and I don't know how everything's coming together. I'm excited for you because you have a everybody. You know everybody doesn't have a legal team like you have exactly which keep you out of trouble. I probably I'm needing one myself.
Speaker 2:Should we announce brumer and white? Well, if, we can edit that out if we're not supposed to.
Speaker 4:Yeah he's not listening I'm listening.
Speaker 1:I'm listening I hope he's listening.
Speaker 2:You're gonna keep listening and I hope I hope I get to go hang out with him again, but anyway yeah.
Speaker 4:Listen, it has been a joy to get to spend time with you and your legal people.
Speaker 2:Thank you yeah.
Speaker 4:No danger, sorry, I'm out to lunch on a lot of things when it comes to TV and whatever. When I asked him, I'm like, why do they call you Danger? He's like, well, it's Dr Danger and I'm like, okay, why they call you that? And he started showing me pictures, which was terrifying.
Speaker 2:This has not only been an amazing journey, it's been an amazing connection, because, from Danger to Rich, to Rick to Tony, yeah Well, we've made lifelong friends.
Speaker 1:I think that's a great thing, man.
Speaker 4:We have enjoyed you it's been amazing yeah. If it was over with today guess what.
Speaker 2:I've had a damn good time, if I can say that.
Speaker 1:I'm glad to see you're getting back on the stage. I know you're already doing stuff, but I mean, at the station, man, you had a great show, so I'm happy for you and we'll kind of hopefully come back. I know we're going to get even more questions, which I should have printed them out, but I just remembered a few of them off the top of my. We'll kind of hopefully come back. I know we're going to get even more questions, uh, which I should have printed them out, but I just remembered a few of them off the top of my head Cause we're only gonna do a little 30 minute here to update. But, uh, man, I appreciate both you guys being with us and thank you guys and playing at our venue. The station has been man. That was quite a tree man. It was beautiful weather here in East Tennessee on October fall night, man what a can I throw?
Speaker 1:Tennessee beat Alabama.
Speaker 2:Can I interject for one second and throw my motto out there? Yeah, you know, and I think my daddy would have said this oh, be safe, be blessed. Yeah, man, because you blessed me. Thank you, man.
Speaker 4:We've We've had. We've really enjoyed Getting to know you guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we've had. It's a real treat for us. Trust me, man, we, we We've had had a lot of Bud's Friends in the music business, but this has been a great.
Speaker 4:No, this is. This has been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey, we're gonna get out of here because we're all getting hangry.
Speaker 3:Thank you guys so much. We appreciate it. We've had a great time.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to come back. Oh yeah, man, this has been quite a crazy ride here. I'm just thankful that we get to know you guys and follow you on this adventure. But anyway, big thanks to john smith presley, his bandmate, attorney friend tony petty and my best half, sarah thank you guys, thank you so much happy trails and we'll see you guys next time. Thank you.