This is a recording of Valeria Teles interviewing Dirobi Health Show host Dave Sherwin on life, the universe, and everything!
Valeria is on a quest to help people find better health in their lives, in all areas. She touches on fitness, nutrition, meditation and mindfulness, and spirituality.
This is part two of the interview, but can be listened to independently of part one, as they are pretty different in nature.
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Find episode links, notes and artwork at:
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This show is for informational purposes only.
None of the information in this podcast should be construed as dispensing medical advice.
These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
This is a recording of Valeria Teles interviewing Dirobi Health Show host Dave Sherwin on life, the universe, and everything!
Valeria is on a quest to help people find better health in their lives, in all areas. She touches on fitness, nutrition, meditation and mindfulness, and spirituality.
This is part two of the interview, but can be listened to independently of part one, as they are pretty different in nature.
See all episode artwork, links and notes at:
https://blog.dirobi.com
This show is for informational purposes only.
None of the information in this podcast should be construed as dispensing medical advice.
These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
Find episode links, notes and artwork at:
https://blog.dirobi.com
This show is for informational purposes only.
None of the information in this podcast should be construed as dispensing medical advice.
These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
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Speaker 2:Hello, this is the second part of an interview where Valera Telez of the website fit for joy interviews me and it was a long interview and so I broken into two parts. The first part, the previous episode in this podcast was all about nutrition and fitness. In the second part she really asks me questions that are tough and really made me think she's trying to get out, she's trying to draw to her guests meaningful questions and meaning of life type stuff and how do we have a more happy life and it really was a great interview, was fun to be asked these questions and some of these questions I'm sure will make you think just like they did me, she kind of puts me on the spot a few times, but if you enjoyed part one, I think you'll enjoy this and if you didn't hear part one it probably doesn't matter because this episode is so different than the other ones. So I think you could start here. I don't think you have to listen to the other one first, but if you want to that's fine. But again, here we are part two of Valeria Telez interview with me on the fit for joy podcast. Hope you enjoy What are some examples of effective exercises Dave?
:The number rule of exercise: the most effective exercise is the one you will do. If it doesn't make your heart sing, if you're not going to do it, then it's not effective. And so rule number one is you have to find something enjoyable. One of the things I love about our school system is that they i ntroduce children to all types of great activities and they often have in high school lifetime sports where they go out and they play soccer and they go bowling and they do lacrosse and they introduce kids to all these different things. I think that's so smart. Yet we stop doing it as we get older,. Why not take a few minutes and look around, and check out what exercise options are available to you that you will really enjoy.
Speaker 2:There are so many great things out there to do. Join a club, go to your local rec center. Do something that you haven't done before. If you've never been a swimmer, take an adult swim class and, and see if you enjoy swimming. Have you ever done a 5K? Why not start running and in 90 days do a 5K. And so I think that the answer of course is it's unique for everybody. There is no perfect exercise.
:I will give you some things I've learned though from science and that is that we did a lot of damage in the United States when we told people that if they exercise for 20 minutes a day, three times a week, that's all they needed. That was the worst advice I think has ever been given. And of course, that's all been backtracked from.
Speaker 2:Now, there is no science to support it. They found that it takes about more like five hours a week of exercise to be healthy. That doesn't mean it has to be five hours on a treadmill. It doesn't mean you have to build up a sweat every time. Everything does count. A brisk walk with your dog is exercise. And going for a hike. Now that is one thing I would say is to lean towards things in the outdoors. This is how you can bring your mindfulness and meditation together with your exercise. There is nothing like going up on the mountain with my dog. For me, I just love it. It's exercise for me. It's exercise for her. I love to take an hour on a Saturday morning just walking up in the mountain. It's the best of everything. It's exercise, it's beautiful, it's mindfulness, it's getting away from everything. So look for things that are outdoors as much as possible. Remember that everything counts. Shoot for five hours a week if possible. And, if nothing else, park your car far away and walk to your building. Take the stairs, not the elevator. All these little things up. And so we can overcomplicate exercise.
:I love to golf, but I've never considered golf exercise. So one time I took my apple watch and I did"other workout" while I walked nine holes of golf. And do you know that I walked four miles and nine holes of golf with an average heart rate of 94 beats per minute, which is on the very low side of cardio. But I realized that's exercise. I had never really considered golf exercise before because to a runner that's like, oh that's like nothing. You know, golf is not a sport.
Speaker 3:Valeria: That's gentleon the body. I think that's what we have to learn, to be more kind and gentle with ourselves. We don't need this strenuous exercise. Why do we have to punish the body?
Speaker 2:That's right. Everything counts. A Walk is exercise. We tend to over estimate what exercise really is. Now don't get me wrong, there are times when it's really great to build up a sweat. There's just nothing like really working out hard and when you're sweating, your immune system is working out toxins and I, I'd say a mix is really great, a mix of developing strength, working on your cardiovascular system, working on your endurance, work on your flexibility, think of all the elements of health that are important to you and try to work out a routine that covers everything. This is why I do hard workouts one day, but then I do Tai Chi and Yoga the next day. That works really well for me. And so whatever that is for you, you know, a variety that hits all the bases. And then of course the biggest one is longevity, right? We need to do things that extend our life and don't shorten it. Quality of life and longevity is as part of the equation,
Speaker 3:I like the idea of intensity, but I would say once a month though, even once a week, it doesn't sound sounds like too much because recovery, it takes a long time for the body to recover. So intense exercise should be limited. But I'm talking for myself, I just changed my habits a lot and now once a month just works for me.
Speaker 2:And that's the key. Knowing yourself, what you said earlier, knowing yourself, doing what was works for you.
Speaker 3:I wanted to ask you a question about golf. I know you play golf. What does golf teach us about wellbeing in your opinion?
Speaker 2:To a golfer, golf is life! You play the ball as it l ies, meaning you take whatever comes, you sometimes r eally take a really great swing and it ends up in someone else's d ivot. Or else somewhere where it's really hard to hit. And if you're a good golfer, you don't cheat. You play the ball as it lies. Also, you play in the weather that you have. Sometimes you start off on a beautiful day, and the weather turns and you get wet, but a good dedicated golfer is probably gonna play through that. Unless there's lightning of course, where it's dangerous to lift a metal rod over your head, then you don't. Then for me, it combines a lot of these things we're talking about. It's the ultimate test of mindfulness cause you've gotta be 100% present when you swing that club because if you're off just the slightest bit, you can slice that ball into someone's house. And so it takes a great deal of concentration. And then it also has the competitive element. You get to play against other people o r play in a tournament.
:And then on top of all that, one thing I really love is golf is the world's best way of raising money to help other people. I don't know if you knew that golf raises more money than the NFL, hockey and baseball combined. So I love that. I'm actually a First Tee coach, where we teach children ages 5 to 18, the principle of becoming good golfers but better people, annd I love that. I'm excited to introduce a junior golf program here into the local golf course I belong to. So you're teaching children honesty and integrity. Golf is the only sport where you're your own referee. You call penalties on yourself.
Speaker 3:Wow. I didn't know anything about golf. So that's great that you're explaining that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's no referee. If you break the rules, you call that on yourself. You're expected to be honest and to put down your correct score on your scorecard, to count every single shot. It's a beautiful game that way.
Speaker 3:Honesty. Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 2:Yes. Integrity is the number one principle of the First Tee program. It's a program that started when Tiger Woods first came to prominence in the 90s. And inner city children for the first time took a huge interest in golf and it was very expensive and hard for them to do. And so the First Tee program was formed and since then there's literally been millions of children helped to take up the game of golf and taught all of these tremendous principles, through the game of golf.
:Then the other thing is it's social. You're often out there with somebody else and so you're chatting and you're having a good time. Those of you who haven't tried it need to go out and get some balls and hit a few balls and see if that might be your next wellness adventure. That sounds really great. The only thing that doesn't resonate with me from everything you said regarding golf is the competition because I think we should strive more for cooperation and unity. And I think competition separates us. I think we should compete with ourselves. Like I love the integrity part and how you need to be honest with yourself, but competing with others, I just don't think i t's a healthy practice, but that's my opinion.
Speaker 2:Well it certainly can be. As a matter of fact, one of the reasons why I chose to become a First Tee coach versus do other children's sports is because I a m very against the hyper competitiveness and the these parents at soccer games yelling at the referee and, and some of the bad sportsmanship. I think you're right. There's a lot of negativity that comes from competition.
:At the same time, I've had really great personal experiences in competition. It is great to sometimes do a running race, for example. If you're a runner and you put yourself in a race where you could see how you do compared to the field, if it's done in a positive way, it can motivate you to work a little harder and get a little faster and say, well in my age group, maybe I could win a medal if I did this. And so I'm going to do a little bit more of that. And so it can help you personally rise to higher heights by comparing yourself in a healthy way to the field. So I do believe there can be healthiness to competition, but I definitely see what you're saying too. And I've certainly seen the negative side of competition, especially when it leads to cheating and bad sportsmanship and all those bad things.
Speaker 3:What is spirituality to you, Dave?
Speaker 2:Spirituality to me is very much connected with the word meaning. And what brings meaning to life. And also I don't have a definition for spirituality, but I'm finding that more and more I have a sense of spirituality and things that I'm doing that a lot of people don't think are spiritual. For example, we talked about golf and I don't have this conversation with very many people, but I often have a spiritual sensation on the golf course. That's just me, I feel that way.
:I do not believe that spirituality is necessarily connected with sitting in a church meeting. Although it can be, I don't want to offend anyone who goes to church for spirituality. But I think it would be a mistake to think that when you walk out of the church, your spirituality is over for the week.
Speaker 2:Spirituality also has to do with integrity. It also has to do with how we act, because if you have no sense of spirituality, if we are just meat sacks, a collection of bones and meat with a brain on top of it, then there's no reason to not take advantage when you can. There's no reason to not just live however you want, to just fulfill all of your cravings and desires, which is what some people do, right? So to me, spirituality is that internal guiding light that helps us understand right from wrong and gives us higher level thinking than other animals, frankly, who simply live mostly for the next meal. So to me it's what gives meaning to life. And I think that we sense our own spirituality much better when we are meditating on a regular basis. So, for me, the most important reason why I meditate isn't actually conscious, it's more spiritual.
Speaker 3:Do you have a definition for love?
Speaker 2:I think though at the basis of it love is when you would put someone else above yourself. So when you love someone, you would do something for them that would cause great sacrifice for yourself. The New Testament I think says it better than any other thing else I've probably ever heard is: greater love hath no man than he lay down his life for that of another. So a person who would give their life for someone else, I think that definition of love is really profound and meaningful. So to me love is much less a feeling than a verb. Love is an action word. If you love somebody you're willing to do something about that. You're sensitive to their thoughts and feelings and needs, and you are willing to put them above yourself.
Speaker 3:What was the hardest lesson to learn about yourself, others and life.
Speaker 2:The hardest lesson I have learned, I believe is that I can be deceived. I learned late in my life that I accepted beliefs quite quickly and questioned them very slowly and I could be manipulated by other people and or by beliefs. And for me to be able to step back and see life as it really is, has actually been something that's come to me late in life. And I've held some views that I probably should have given up a very long time ago, but I didn't know I should. I didn't know.
:And so I finally came to realize about myself that I can not only be deceived, I can hang on to those wrong beliefs and I've got to live with more doubt. It sounds bad because a lot of people say you're not supposed to live with doubt, but no. And it's like what we said about nutrition earlier, right? People have beliefs about nutrition. People believe in the Keto Diet. They believe in the Paleo Diet. Once you get evangelical about things, I am now very, very wary about people who are evangelical about things.
Speaker 3:I think whatever the human experience is it's supposed to be open, open awareness. Everything's connected with everything. It makes life easier to live more joyfully if we are open. Do not believe in everything, but investigate with an open heart.
Speaker 2:How do you define success? Success also for me is very personal. Right now I'm going through the Ray Dalio app, which I couldn't recommend more. Ray Dalio is a billionaire who just barely retired and decided that the way he would give back to the world was to teach the way he became a billionaire. So he put a free app on iTunes called Principles, and I'm just going through it.
:And here he is a billionaire. So financially we'd consider him very successful. But he really makes you think, because one of the points he made, he said, do y ou know, I've had everything, I've been everywhere. I'm a billionaire, but I have learned that when you have a roof over your head, good food to eat and great relationships, it doesn't get much better.
Speaker 2:You add a ton of money on top of that. And if anything, you just increase how many problems you have. So to me, success absolutely includes taking care of the basics. We need shelter, we need a vehicle, we need food. And when it comes to food, the cheap food is no good for you, it kind of takes a decent amount of money if you want to eat really well. And so to me, those are all building blocks of success. Enough money to live the lifestyle you want. If that includes travel, enough money to travel.But in the end, you know, the older I get, the less I appreciate stuff. If anything, I'm getting rid of stuff and accumulating friends and experiences. So success to me involves a financial component. It involves a quality of life component. Work is huge. I feel sorry for people who are not doing what they love. If you don't have a job you love, change it. Like Jim Rohn said we're not trees who can't transplant. You know, your career is going to take a whole lot of time out of most people's lives and so that's gotta be something you enjoy. So if you have work you love, people you love and enough money to provide for your lifestyle in a way that's pleasing to you, I don't think it gets much better than that.
Speaker 3:I would add just being grateful for the things we have. I.
:If you knew you would die soon, would you change anything or do anything differently from now on?
Speaker 2:Not much. I've thought about this before, you know, it's a great question. We hear it now and then, you know, there's t hat great ted talk professor who t alked about this.
:I'm really a blessed person. I love what I do. I enjoy coming to work every day. I love my family. I love my wife. Her and I started dating over 30 years ago and got married and never stopped.
Speaker 2:And so I would keep spending time with her. We already spend time together and we would just keep doing that. I already love what I do for work and so I'd probably keep coming to work. I wouldn't stop working cause I enjoy it. I think the only thing I would do differently is I would get out and travel and see all of my family. So I might do a little less w ork c ause I'd want to go out there and, and see, u m, all my family at least one more time before I died.
:Do you believe in life after death?
Speaker 2:I sense it. You know, it certainly feels like there's more, doesn't it? That's a heavy question. The answer is I hope so. It's a hope. A wish. And I sense a feeling of eternity. I feel like I came from somewhere else. I feel like I'm going somewhere else and I have had much stronger beliefs in the past about this and I have stepped back, to be honest with you.
:I'm comfortable in being a little less certain about things than I used to be because I've been certain about things that I was wrong about. So, I'm comfortable in the not knowing and in accepting that I live in eternity right now, that this is eternity. You and I talking right now, this is it. So I'm really comfortable right here and right now.
Speaker 3:What kind of life after death, are there any ideas in your mind?
Speaker 2:I actually think it wouldn't be a whole lot different than this. I really don't. I think that there would be a transition and that you and I, as we are, as we know ourselves, we'll find ourselves somewhere else. And so I picture me somewhere else.
:Now, this is my hope. I hope it's with my family. I hope that the next phase is with the same family and friends we had here. I don't see that the next life would be dramatically different in material form than this and that we would be who we are and just move on.
Speaker 2:So my last question, what are three things about life you know for sure?
:Well, one is that it is. We do know that I am and you are, and believe it or not, that may sound really dumb and mundane, but there are really smart people out there debating things like, are we in a matrix? But I don't believe that. I believe that it is what it is. So that's, that's one thing. I believe it is what it is. Well, I know a lot of things for sure, but what would be the most important ones? I know that principals are real, that we should live by principles. Principles are bedrock. Principles are things we can count on. We talked earlier about integrity. I know that if we live with integrity, we will be better off than if we do not. And I believe that's true for all principles. We should not murder. We should not steal. We have laws that encompass a lot of this. But then there's a lot of things we could do that nobody sees. So how we act when no one's watching or no one can see us. Living with integrity is the best way to live.
Speaker 2:I know that relationships are foundational to a happy life. And so we've got to nurture them. You know, if you've got a few good friends in the world, you've got to keep that. Don't take a good friendship for granted.
:Well, this one came to mind and it's not a real exciting or positive one, but there's evil. There's evil in the world, there's evil people and there's evil in the world and we need to avoid it. There are things that can do us harm and things that we are tempted to dabble in that we should just leave alone. I'll give you an example. A very simple one is alcohol. That is something that has not done a whole lot of good in the world, but h as done a tremendous amount of harm. I've talked to my children about this. Illegal drugs are a real thing that's out there and can only lead to pain. And so I'd say those are things I know. Avoid evil.
Speaker 3:Do you consider a fearful state of mind an evil state?
Speaker 2:It's a great question, but I would say that fear is a natural instinct we have that would protect us. So I'd say it could be twisted to become bad, but I'd say that generally speaking, that sense of fear, I think we have it on purpose to avoid harm. So I think it's healthy to be fearful of certain situations. For example, take the basic situation of coming across a bear in the woods. Your natural fear, it's for survival. So I think we should trust it, but let it get blown out of proportion and not live in fear.
Speaker 3:Because, if we fear we can't love, they don't go together.
Speaker 2:Right. If you get home and you're still afraid of the bear, that's a problem.
Speaker 3:So, it has been a fun and meaningful conversation. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:We blew your time limit apart. I am so sorry we went so long, but it was great to talk to you. These are such great questions. You've really made me think about a lot of things and so it's been wonderful interview. Thank you so much. Can I tell your listeners a couple, resources I have?
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