The Dirobi Health Show

Dealing with Stress and Burnout... the Success Killers. With Dom Campbell

December 11, 2019 Dom Campbell Season 1 Episode 122
The Dirobi Health Show
Dealing with Stress and Burnout... the Success Killers. With Dom Campbell
Show Notes Transcript

Coach Dom Campbell is an experienced fitness and personal development coach, and he is noticing a lot of people fall short of their goals because of stress and burnout.

Listen in as Dom walks us through some great ideas to help us be consistent and successful in a world of constant distraction and insane busy-ness!

Dom Campbell is a personal development & empowerment coach.  He is a certified master health coach & life coach, who works with spirit inspired business people who are feeling stressed or burned out while trying to attain success, and helps them to strike a balance to achieve authentic success with joy.   He has helped coutnless people across the US, Canada, & Europe.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Thank you sir. It's great to be here. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I appreciate you being willing to do it and I'm interested in the new topic that you're excited about at the moment. It must be something that you are really feeling people have a need for out there. You're, you're dealing a lot with, with stress right now.

Speaker 3:

I am, yeah. Not personally. Professionally.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah. If I was a more professional podcast hosts, I, I'd ask better questions. Um,

Speaker 3:

it's been kind of an interesting period since I last spoke to you. Cause you know, the last time I was on your show, we talked about creating permanent health changes, right? It was really focused around, uh, people's overall health and wellbeing and in the experience of, you know, coaching people through these things. Um, one of the things that I found was the impact of stress and burnout on people in their day to day lives of just trying to achieve what they perceive to be as success.

Speaker 2:

Hmm. Okay. Right. And

Speaker 3:

that sort of speaks to the video that was on my, on my, um, that I did today that you saw, you saw that you watched. And so, um, you know, we, we get so caught up in our day today in our day to day living, right, with everything that we have to do our, our giant to do list, having to be here and having to be there. And then, you know, all of the questions that we, that go on in our head, what about this and what about that? And you know, it's, it's just, it's just, um, we put all this pressure on ourselves and then being the time of year it is right now, right before Christmas, just a few weeks leading into Christmas and being in the holiday season, we lump that on top of all the other stuff and it just creates even more stress and burnout that for many of us it's hard to even enjoy the holiday. And so I thought that this would be a really timely topic to talk about because, um, there are many folks they know that they're stressed out or they know that they're burned out, but they feel trapped by it.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So I'm really excited to dive into that and get into the weeds. But before we do, I'm going to put you on hold for just a minute before we solve the world's stress problems. And I want to bring you up to date on something that's happened in my life since we last talked. Now since you and I connected, we became friends on Facebook and I followed your stuff. And one of the things that intrigued me about you and surprised me about you at the time was that you do all your workouts at home and that's still true, right? Yup. Okay, so to me that was surprising cause I'm kind of a gym rat. I love the gym, I love to go out, I love the energy of the gym. I love there's a ton of equipment. As a matter of fact, my gym is particularly cool because it has these really great massage chairs, which I love to end my workout setting in this really awesome massage chair, which I don't have at home, but over the course of doing the podcast, I've had a few different people on now who work out at home, including recently, Lisa, bill Asher handle online is the kettlebell bombshell and she talked about how she trained for physique competitions where normally the women who train with heavyweights, she's been training with kettlebells at home and between you and her I finally was inspired like, okay, there's something to this. I'm going to give it a shot. I put my gym membership on hold for 90 days and I'm now two months into doing a home exercise regimen, mostly using kettlebells. And I gotta tell ya, I think I'm a convert.

Speaker 3:

Really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think I get it. So I'm kind of curious, like what

Speaker 3:

have you discovered in working out at home versus working at a gym that has converted you?

Speaker 2:

The biggest epiphany for me was I just assumed I could never get as good of a workout at home that I could at the gym. And that was the epiphany number one. I can't believe how many great YouTube videos or are with various workouts, how good of an exercise exercise you can get with a kettlebell. I do have, and I was as a disclaimer that the one piece of equipment I can't live without as a pull up bar, uh, because there's just no replacement for me for that type of, you know, the back strength. And I, I, I just, I love pull-ups and, uh, so I do have a pull up, um, a mountain climber style pull up rig in my garage. Okay. So a couple of times a week I can go do my pull-ups. If it wasn't for that, uh, it would, it would be harder. But, uh, between that and pushups and body weight stuff and the kettlebells, um, I'm getting in all my mobility, maybe even better than I was before. I'm getting great workouts and I love the convenience.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Yeah. That's what kept me, that's why I started home workouts cause it was for the convenience. Cause when I started on the journey, I am a divorced dad raising two. At the time they were two toddler boys. And so I couldn't afford to have childcare just so I could run to the gym. And even the gym, you know, you drop them off at childcare, you still gotta pay for that. So I'm like, I'm not doing, I could just do the stuff at home. And I did. And I found that after going to the gym for so many years, um, working out at home, I actually got better results. And I think it was just because I was more focused. I wasn't going to the gym, it didn't become a social event. I just got in, got it done, got out. I didn't have to drive anywhere. It saved me time. I have to go out in the cold and the rain and the snow. And so I just wound up liking it more. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well me too. Now I am a convert. So I went from, from, from thinking that it was like a step down, right. To me it was like, it was like second class workouts. It was like I was the snobby gym person and people that worked out at home were like getting the second grade experience. I mean, that was just kind of how I had it in my head. And, uh, now I'm a convert, so I've got myself a few different sizes of kettlebells and, and I, I'm a big fan and I also, the other thing I really liked about at Dom is my morning routine, my morning routine is, is, is better now, um, because, because I'm saving probably 45 minutes, which is kind of significant. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm a fan and you kind of, uh, were the one who got me started down that road. Lisa Blash kind of was the, the, uh, the one who got me to finally commit. And now I get it. And so for those of you listening, if you are like me, just think that the gym or these other things that you're doing are the only way you can get a really good workout. You may want to just get yourself a kettlebell and watch a some videos or Dom, um, you know, I didn't want to spend a lot of time on this, but just give them some better advice than I just did on how you get started working out from home in a meaningful way.

Speaker 3:

Really, the first thing you have to do really, no matter what you do, whether it's working out or going to the gym, but it's really just making the commitment to yourself to make you a priority. A number one priority

Speaker 2:

above that. Makes sense,

Speaker 3:

right? You have to make that commitment to yourself. You've got to be. What I, what I did when I first started was I literally, I put it on my calendar and I treated it like sacred time and it was a nonnegotiable and I set my alarm for early in the morning and when the alarm went off, I smashed the alarm button on some mornings because I wasn't happy about getting up, but I got up anyhow, I got dressed, did my workout by the time I was not even halfway through, usually 10 minutes in, I was happy that I did that and now it's to the point I've been doing it for so long. When I have those mornings, I think to myself, if I don't feel like getting up, I'll ask myself, but if you don't get up, what will you feel like for the rest of the day? And I know that the answer to that question is I'm going to feel like crap. So I don't want to feel like crap. I want to feel really good. So that usually is enough motivation to get me out of bed and do it, even though I might not feel like doing it in the moment. I know I'm going to benefit from it all day long. And so, um, that's what keeps me engaged now. But in the beginning it was, you know, it is a commitment. You do have to push yourself. Having accountability is key. I was working with a coach at the time, um, to get me going. So even though I worked out at home, I had an online coach much like myself, that helped me to my accountability until I was able to develop that new habit.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I love it. You know, a whole lot of people every single day around the world, late in the day go, man, I regret not working this morning, but nobody ever, ever who worked out in the morning goes, dang it. I wish I wouldn't have worked out this morning.

Speaker 3:

I never had that experience

Speaker 2:

no one ever has. Right. It's all is the way it is. If you get yourself to do it, you never, ever will regret it. Your day will go better. You'll feel good. You'll be hitting your goals, losing weight, increasing your self confidence. There's so many good things about it. So thanks for taking a few minutes on that. And let's jump into the topic cause this is important stuff and it's something you've come come to from experience. Why don't you share that first of all, what a, and obviously we're not, I'm not asking you to share any private stories of people or things like that. I'm just saying in general, what are some of the epiphany's you've had recently that have convinced you that that stress is a big problem a lot of people are dealing with in our society?

Speaker 3:

Um, there's a couple of things. So the first thing is, it's kind of relates back to what we were just talking about. People wanting to improve their life in some way and they don't. Um, and it's usually because they'll get started in something, right? They'll, they might decide to go to the gym or they might decide to do some at home, Mark out and they'll, there'll be, they'll make the commitment to themselves, but then usually some life stressor will come along and take them out of their game and they go back to the old habits and behaviors and that life stressor stays around, right? It doesn't go away. It could be your job, it could be a death in the family, it could be an illness in the family, right? An illness that might last a week. It doesn't have to be something as dramatic as a, as a job loss or a death. It could be just like a sickness that takes you out or maybe when your kids get sick for a week, it takes you out of your normal routine that you are trying to develop. Right? Um, also, so that's the first thing, right? Something will come along and take you out of your routine and then you struggle to get back on track. The second thing is you can be doing all the right things. You can be working out every day. You can be eating really well and not experience any result from doing it. And people wonder why? Well, why, like I'm doing all the right things. Why am I not experiencing a result? You might feel a little bit better, but you may not be losing any weight. You may not be gaining any muscle. You may not. You might be feeling a little bit emotionally better cause you get an endorphin hit from the workout. But overall you're really not feeling any better. And the reason is is because you're likely under some type of stress and may not even realize it. Most of us do realize it, but some of us don't. Stress can be really and live underneath the surface. And so what I found in working specifically with these types of people, where they're trying all different things and nothing is working, it's usually something stress related that they're not facing. And so I will work with them to under to uncover what that is. And once we undercut, once we find out and discover what that is, we begin working towards how to work through it. So it's no longer an issue. We literally begin, um, rewiring some of the things that had been around in some cases for some peoples since I would, since their childhood, we will begin rewiring some of the, some of the old habits, some of the beliefs that they fallen into that they didn't even know that they had as a result of this, that has kept them stuck to relieve that stress. Once the stress has gone, then things begin happening. So a case in point, I had a really, there's one client in particular, justice year is the walking epitome of this. Um, she came to me in January wanting to lose 25 pounds doing everything. Nothing is working. Yeah. She might lose a couple of pounds here or there, but overall there was really no movement. And so we spent the first month I was just baselining what she was doing and getting an understanding and everything was checking out. And I'm like, all right, I, you know, I'm unbelieving. This is something to do with stress. So we were starting to do the work and then I found out that her job was really stressful. She worked in sales, C was at the bottom of her fails team. She had a target on her back. Her boss put a target on her back. She was always living in this place of fear that she was gonna lose her job. And so that creates a lot of stress when you have that kind of fear. And she had been living that way for quite some time. So, um, in working with her, you know, this weed seed discovered that, you know, she had this underlying stress that she didn't realize he was under. She knew she was, she knew her job, stressed her out, but what she didn't realize, she didn't, she wasn't able to connect the dots to realize that this is what was causing her not to experience any results. So we, I started coaching her around some of the things going on in her job and it was mostly relationship-based and she started showing up on the job differently and with her relationships changing on the job, um, her job started to get a little bit easier and then suddenly the weight started falling off. And when we started working it altogether, when we'd stopped focusing on just the weight stuff. But we really started going deeper and started working on everything to try and create the balance that she was looking for in her life. I mean, yes, she was looking to lose 25 pounds, but she was also looking for balance. She wanted to hold on to this. She was looking to be happy in essence, right. But the happiness wasn't necessarily in losing the weight. The happiness was getting balanced in her life, which allowed the weight to come off. So at the end of it, um, not only did she lose the weight, but she went from being last on the sales team to first and recognized by the CEO in her company. And ironically, um, wanted to know why he wasn't aware of the rock star that she was before. And it came out was, it was because of her boss and the, basically the target got moved from her back to her bosses back and her boss was let go and she's now in that role. And so just in a matter of that all happened in less than a year and it was just, it was amazing to be a part of her journey and to help her follow that through. Right. Cause it, it wasn't just, it was a health journey. Right? But it was so much more than that. Cause you know, we don't live our lives in boxes, right? Our health isn't, doesn't live in a box by itself. Our relationships don't live in, in a box by itself. Our job doesn't live in a box by itself. They're all intertwined and intermingled. And we got to, when things don't work or we seem stuck or we seem stressed and burned out, that thing that we're stressed out or burned out on, it's going to affect the other areas. Right? And so it requires a little bit more to do the work. So this is why when people try and take up a lifestyle change, it's not just about eating right and working out. Yeah, those are important. Right? But a lot of times we fall out of our game in those things because something else is out of balance. And so if we really want to get to the root of, of what's going on and trying to find our authentic happiness and success, which lives in the balance, then we've got to look at everything. And that's what I did with her. That's what I've been doing with really all my clients. I don't just lock into just the health components, but it's really more holistic. It's wider. And the stress and the burnout is so prevalent in our society. So prevalent, it's, it's under appreciated as a symptom for a cause is why things aren't working. I mean, people think of stress and the first thing they think of is like heart attack or stroke, right? But what about just your day to day balance and being able to just manage your normal health care just as part of normal self care feeling good. What about that?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I like that. And in this case your story is of a person overcoming a particularly difficult situation. It's a story of achievement. Now I'm gonna take it a step further because now that she's climbed to the top of that mountain, she's going to look out and see there's another peak there. You mean we never arrive right there. There's this, there's this gap between how we think life should be and how life is that all of us are dealing with for a long time. I'm going to give you one more anecdote on this and then I'd like to get your, your thoughts because you're, you're, you're helping people through these things. I know. So, so just this morning as listen to one of my favorite podcasts was Jack cornfield. He was telling the story of a meditation retreat for men. So there's a group of man sitting there and if I understand right, these are men that are dealing with particular difficult situations. I'm not sure if it was like an AA type of a thing or what, but I understand they were going through some type of, um, uh, major life situation. Went on a retreat and as I start to open up, one of the men finally started to share his feelings with the group. And basically said to the instructor, I don't feel safe. And, and that was all he said. And the instructor sat there for a few minutes and then finally, you know, kindly said, you shouldn't feel safe. Now that's, that's a very Zen like thing. But the moral of the story, uh, was this person was looking for a feeling like life isn't necessarily safe. Right? We don't know what's coming around the next corner. We don't know what the next challenge will be. We know that challenge is normal. We know that, uh, everything can be hunky Dory and then not hunky Dory. And our ability to be happy to have a reasonably successful, happy life isn't ever going to be because we've arrived at some point where there's no more challenges. Right? So, right. So this is the part of the problem I see is that I think a lot of people have this idea that if they could just do this, if they could just get that next raise, if they could just get pregnant, if they could just, you know, whatever the challenge is, right, that once that happens, boy, my problems will be solved. But it seems like stress is part of life. It can come from various things, but it's something going to have to always deal with. I'm not saying that to be negative, just to be realistic. So, so I think a lot of the stresses caused by our expectations, by our somehow thinking that life should be different than it is.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. It's interesting because that's something that I speak to a lot about, you know, relieving stress. Of course, you know, there are strategies that you can do to relieve stress, exercise, meditation, prayer, that kind of stuff. But what about your attitude? Because a lot of times when we're in that space of being stressed out or burned out, there's this feeling that things are happening to us.

Speaker 2:

Hmm. Yup.

Speaker 3:

And the reality of it is, is to relieve some of the stress. It's really about flipping your thought process from life is happening to you, to life is happening for you and beginning to appreciate what you have beginning to appreciate the blessing in the messing of the moment. Um, whatever that messing is, is that you're in the middle of right there is, there is a gift even in the negative things that happened to us and it's there in every single circumstance for us if we're willing to look for it. But we, so many of us don't even take the time to consider it because we're so, we're so overcome with what's happening to me and wanting people to feel for us and you know, appreciate where we're at and, you know, come be stuck with me in this negative, you know, it's like you want to feel heard and understood in this negative space and that's, that's fine for a period of time, but we can't stay stuck there. Right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Pulls us down. I look out at society and it seems like society has become a lot more political than it used to be. So let's, let's pick on politics just for a minute. As an example. Uh, you know, let's, let's go back, say to, um, Bush one. Okay. So during the Bush one era, if you're on the left, uh, it would just be a dream come true if bill Clinton could get elected and people campaign and they worked their butt off. And, and this two sides fight each other on the, in the political landscape. And bill Clinton wins and his, his supporters all cheer. And life will be wonderful if bill Clinton could just win. And then there's another election and the people on the right thinking, boy, if, if, if Bush two could just win, boy, wouldn't life be great? And then it's Barack Obama, wouldn't it be great if Barack won? And then, and, and, and when Barack Obama won, there was great joy on the one side and people tearing their hair out on the other side. And then of course, all of that is just exacerbated in the era of Donald Trump. And I, I remember when, when he got voted in seeing this poor woman on TV, I'll never forget the image, uh, of her just letting out this enraged scream. It w it became a meme, uh, of just like her life was ruined. And, and I remember watching that and going, you know, your life is hardly going to change at all. Like we've, all those of us old enough have lived through everything I just described. I just went through and from 1992 till till today, uh, each president right now, how much has that actually affected anybody's life? Right. A little bit. Granted, but as it been life shattering when your guy won, or did it just kill you when your person didn't win? And yet we act like this national stuff, the national news, whether political or or otherwise really has this massive effect on us. And to me it's mostly illusion. So people are being affected by these news stories and by who's running things. But in actual fact, their day to day lives, going to work, going to the gym, being with their family, doing what they do is only slightly affected by politics.

Speaker 3:

Actually, I'm going to tell you it's greatly negatively affected.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Yeah. Good point. And I guess that's where I'm going, but it's not really a real visit

Speaker 3:

in their mind. It is

Speaker 2:

correct. Correct. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I think we're, we're tracking to, yeah, I think you're tracking with me. You get the idea. So talk to that for a minute.

Speaker 3:

The, um, the negative aspect of the mind and the tricks of the place.

Speaker 2:

Well, and our current, I guess our current situation where people really think that these external forces are having a massive impact on their lives.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Yeah. The actually, it all comes down to one thing, right? We all want to be happy and I'm not even talking about just happy on the outside. I'm really talking about authentic happiness on the inside, right? We want, we want peace, joy, and happiness in our hearts. And the paradox of our society has it all backwards, right? They think they tried to approach it from the outside in. It's, and it's a lot of blame. It's the president's fault. You're not happy. The economy sucks or you know, you don't have a job because the economy sucks, right? Or, um, it's the media's fault that I'm not happy or it's my husband's fault that I'm not happy. Right? Whatever it is, it's somebody else's fault. The media kind of perpetuates. This is always blame going around. They thrive off controversy. If there's nobody to blame, there's no story. And Hollywood does the same thing. There's a good button, good guy and bad guy and everything, and they'd blame in everything. Otherwise, there's no story to tell, no good story to tell as far as they're concerned. So, um, what they don't realize is that the happiness doesn't come when we try and reconcile all of the outsides things. To your point, we're not going to be authentically happy when a president gets in office. You're not going to be authentically happy when your husband does what you want them to do. You're not going to be authentically happy when your boss gets off your back. Really, you're going to be authentically happy. That authentic happiness and joy comes from within. You can have the shittiest outside circumstances going on around you. Sorry, I shouldn't have cursed. But you could have the shittiest outside circumstances going on around you and still have happiness and joy going on inside. You can't have that the other way around.

Speaker 2:

Okay? I like it. I get it. So I'm ready. Dom Campbell, solve the world's problems. Everyone listening, I want you to just tell them what to do, to have peace, love, and joy in their heart from now on and forevermore.

Speaker 3:

Bottom line. Stay present in the moment. Stay present in the moment and be in gratitude for what you have. Get out of the past. Stay out of the future. Just be present, fully present with where you're at and find gratitude.

Speaker 2:

I like it. How do we do it?

Speaker 3:

Well, um, I find for myself, I'm not so much stuck in the past. I'm kind of a guy coming from, um, prior to doing this, I was in it. So I liked having a plan. And so my struggle was not coming up with a plan. Um, so my mind would go to, well, what about this and what about that and how about this and how about that? So I was always drug into my future and it would drum up a lot of fear. And sometimes that fear would stop me from taking any action at all because the how just seem too big and too hard or maybe I wasn't good enough to do it. I'm staying present. I do the following things right? First thing. Um, like I said, just getting into a space that is quiet and focusing on what I have. What am I thankful for? I'm thankful I have a roof over my head today. What am I thankful for right now in this moment? I have a roof over my head. I have food on the table. I've got two healthy kids. I have amazing clients in my business or at a wonderful job. Right. Um, just spending time in that gratitude, in that present moment of where you currently are.

Speaker 2:

Is this a daily habit you have

Speaker 3:

every morning after I worked out. Okay. So I guess the other thing was I was going to say, you know, doing my morning workout, right? Getting out of bed, doing my morning workout. And then afterwards, after I'm done with my cool-down stretching, just spending anywhere between five and 15 minutes sitting on the floor, just in that eyes closed. I might be laying on the floor dripping in sweat, but just laying there and just being in gratitude for having an awesome workout. Even like whatever comes to mind in that moment or for that day, what am I in gratitude for? It grounds me out. It calms me down. It gets me out of that. What about this? What about that stuff that drives up the fear in me? It keeps me grounded. It gives me patients to focus on what's in front of me right then and there and for the day today

Speaker 2:

know this, this is, uh, this, this attitude of gratitude that you're talking about. You know, I, I, I think it's powerful. I think everyone listening probably knows it's powerful. It's probably mostly a reminder to most of us, but for the most part, very few people probably do what you're saying. Now I have a similar morning routine to you. I actually meditate every morning. Um, the only difference is I do my meditation before I work out and this is probably just my age speaking, but after sitting for 20 or 30 minutes, I'm stiff. And so I've found that if I meditate first, then I can exercise and get everything going again. It's stretch out. You see? So we do a slower thing, but I don't spend the time doing the gratitude and I like that I'm going to add that to my routine and, and take a couple minutes before I meditate to remind myself what I'm grateful for. Cause that's not a habit that I have. So I really like that. Um, yeah. Now this issue of being pulled into the present, I mean that is, to me one of the major points of meditation and one of the things you realize, the more experience you get in meditation is just you become really, really aware of what's going on in your mind and with your emotions and just how distracted you are because you become more aware of it because you're thinking of it, you're noticing it. And it's like a Sam Harris says, you know he has the waking up app, which is one that I use probably more than any other, but he said, you know, if most of us could take the voice in our head outside of ourselves and turn into a person, it would be completely psychotic. It would be, it would be

Speaker 3:

totally. I kind of look at, if you look at your mind like a room, an empty room, and you have the mind where you have that critter brain, that voice in your mind, I call it the critter brain, right? That is speaking all that stuff to you and usually it's fear based stuff, right? It's filling up. It's either keeping you in your past or dragging, dragging you into your future. It's asking things, but what about this? What about that? What will they think type of questions. They keep you stuck. It keeps you in worry. It keeps you in. Like in this, it's generally like a very critical and negative sounding. When that critter brain gets working, it is going to fill up that empty space in your mind with all that negative stuff. But when you get present, right, when you get present and you sit and you just are mindful of what you currently have in this moment right now. And so gratitude for it, you don't fill up that empty space in your mind. With all of that critical negative stuff, you're filling it up in gratitude and it crowds out the critter brain from being able to bring stuff into that empty room.

Speaker 2:

I, I agree. And, and at the same time, I think that for a lot of people that critter brain you're describing is never going to go away. What happens is it, it becomes something you notice that you observe. It becomes much less powerful. Uh, and so I think there's the, the MIS mistaken idea that if you became a really, uh, experienced meditator, that you totally control your thoughts. That what goes on in these gurus brains in India, uh, these guys that are in the caves, meditating for 18 hours a day is perfect tranquility and peace. And there's no thoughts in their brain that's just not true. I think that, yeah, you, you, you know what I'm talking about. Why don't you just elaborate on that?

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So you know, we have our critical brain of thought, right? But we also have our heart of feeling and I think society has done, they have confused our thoughts with our feelings. And so when we, when we get in a place of gratitude of when we get in that place of presence and gratitude, we are allowing our hearts to speak instead of our heads. We're, we're giving it a chance. You know, our truth is in our heart, our heart is really our first brain, right? When, when we are conceived, our heart is the first organ that's born. That's what controls the formation of the brain. Everything that is needed, the DNA and everything that's needed comes from that heart, that initial heart beating I conception. It really is the first brain you have a truth in your heart. The problem is so many of us aren't paying attention to our heart first, that truth. We're paying attention to our critical brain first. So if we can get back to our inner truth and listen to what it's saying and spend some time in that present moment just listening to that inner truth of what's going on in your heart and fill up on that instead of filling up on the critical stuff going on in the head, um, it becomes much more like what you talked about, right? You can almost like witness your thoughts from a third person perspective.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I got three things from you now. I'm just going to, I'm going to backtrack. So three things. Number one, spend some time every day feeling gratitude. Re reminding yourself all the things you're really grateful for. Number two is exercise every day. And number three is as well as you can stay in the moment throughout the rest of the day.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. Yup.

Speaker 2:

And the world's problems will be solved. We only have today. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

We only took tomorrow's past. We can't change it. I mean, yesterday's past. We can't change it. Tomorrow's not here yet. And the fact of the matter is we really don't have as much control over our lives as we think we do. Um, so let that thought go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Present with what you do have.[inaudible]

Speaker 2:

I like it. I like it.

Speaker 3:

Do that distress. The stress evaporates when we have the need to, when we can let go of the need to control what's going to happen tomorrow. So much stress is relieved.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I like it. Yeah. Is there anything else you want to add to that list? I've got those three. Those are the big ones. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, those are the big ones.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I'm going to surprise you with something you're completely unprepared for. I've got a pop quiz for you. Are you ready? Okay. You are trapped on a desert Island and only allowed one workout device or piece of equipment. What do you choose?

Speaker 4:

Mmm,

Speaker 3:

I would choose my power blocks my way. My power.

Speaker 2:

Well, the, the power block weights, they're adjustable.

Speaker 3:

Yes, totally. That would be, that would be it.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Love it. Pop quiz. Question number two. How many hours a week do you spend exercising?

Speaker 3:

I spend anywhere between 30 and 45 minutes a day. Six days a week,

Speaker 2:

six days a week. Do you go heavy, light, heavy light, or how do you break it up?

Speaker 3:

I will do usually. Um, I will do cardio one day and then the next day I will do resistance training and alternate back and forth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it makes sense. Number three, according to U S government statistics, only 9% of people get enough vegetables per day. And those that do primarily eat only three different veggies. Can you guess what they are?

Speaker 3:

Uh, potatoes. Yep. Lettuce.

Speaker 2:

No, I need a buzzer. I need a buzzer. Nope.

Speaker 3:

No, no tomato. Nope.

Speaker 2:

This is a harder question than I thought because you're making good guesses. I never thought of that about that. I mean, to me the answer seemed pretty obvious and yet your answers also seem like they would make sense. But according to U S government statistics, it's potatoes, carrots, and corn.

Speaker 3:

I was gonna say corn next. I wouldn't have guessed. I wouldn't have guessed carrots. I was gonna say corn next corn is in everything too.

Speaker 2:

That's right. That's one reason we get some, I mean, Jesus, I think it's running our cars now too, isn't it? Okay. Next question. Bacon. Yes or no.

Speaker 4:

Mmm.

Speaker 3:

I love bacon. I just don't have it all the time.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So that's a, that's a yes, but in moderation. Absolutely. Okay. This one is going to be, well, maybe this one won't be tricky at all. This'll be an interesting question. Madonna or lady Gaga.

Speaker 3:

Oh God.

Speaker 2:

Do I have to pick? Hey, no, somebody else choose someone else.

Speaker 4:

Mmm.

Speaker 3:

I would pick Celine Dion over either one of those.

Speaker 2:

Oh, good choice. She's coming to Utah next month. My wife wants me to go with her. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. We, we've been wanting to go down to Vegas. We just never have done it. And now she's coming to Utah. So I'll pass your next one next month.

Speaker 3:

I would rather see her.

Speaker 2:

He lived here. I live in New Jersey and so

Speaker 3:

here in Atlantic city, but I didn't get to, I didn't get to see her. Um, but yeah, that's, yeah, I would choose her.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Next question. This is not so much a pop quiz question, just a general interest question.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

What is your favorite podcast? Or if you're not a podcast listener, your favorite book or audible selection you've made recently?

Speaker 3:

Oh, um, I don't listen to rap. I listen to podcasts, but I don't listen to one regularly. I'm kind of all over based on what I'm feeling at the time. But I do have a favorite author. And my favorite author, one of my favorite authors is John C. Maxwell. And the first book I read from him was failing forward. It changed my life.

Speaker 2:

Wow. I have a not read a John Maxwell book in a long, long time. I think I read one called like 17 principles of, of leaders or something like that.

Speaker 3:

Big on leadership. Yeah. Um, but I've read his failing forward book that changed my life and then I read the 15 invaluable laws of growth and I really liked that one too. I, I've been following him for a long time. Um, I also like, um, Napoleon Hill, um, I can't think of his title. The one with the devil

Speaker 2:

not thinking grow rich,

Speaker 3:

not thinking grow rich. It did front one. Um, it's the thing with the devil and I can't think of the name of it,

Speaker 2:

but totally. And Hilde wrote a book with a picture of a devil on it.

Speaker 3:

No, no, the Tyson. It's in the title of the book. Yeah. It's called, um, it's called[inaudible]

Speaker 2:

going to have to Google it now. Can't keep us all hanging.

Speaker 3:

Outwitting the devil.

Speaker 2:

I've never heard of it.

Speaker 3:

Loved it. I got that on audio book. I highly recommend it on audio book because you get to hear the voice of the devil and it stirs up an emotion in you hearing it. Um, one of my favorite audio books, but I've listened to. Yeah,

Speaker 2:

I love it. I have a reminder list with all of the books that I want to read and this is a great, um, recommendation. Going to put it on my list. As a matter of fact, I've got an audible credit available right now. Maybe I'll use it right now.

Speaker 3:

So, you know, we've talked about the critter brain before. Yeah. Right. What I loved about that audio book is when I heard the devil in the audio recording, it aligned very much with a lot of the negative critical thinking that was going on in the critter brain, which is why the reasons why I love that. That book speaks to a lot of what we talked about here.

Speaker 2:

Very interesting. I'm going to add that to the list and we've covered a lot of ground and I've kept you for a long time, so I just want to have you flush out one more thing because I really like what you're saying and yet, you know, it took me years. I mean I only started a really good habit of meditation in the last few years. I knew about meditation a long time ago. I dabbled in it, but these things you're talking about, about really feeling gratitude about meditating, about living in the present moment. It seems like a person kind of has to be ready to make that commitment. And then once you're ready, you know, I'm talking to people on a regular basis where these types of topics come up. And even on my last podcast interview, uh, the, the doctor I was interviewing said, you know, I've tried meditation. It just really doesn't work for me. I just find my mind wandering all over the place. And she also said, you know, what percentage of people know they should meditate but they don't. And so I think these principles you're teaching are absolutely valid. I think they would absolutely be effective for anyone who had put them into action. The trick of course is how do you get from wanting to put them into action to actually putting them into action?

Speaker 3:

Very small steps. So we have this notion that it's an all or nothing kind of approach. Many of us, um, some of us are perfections. Some of us want the drive through breakthrough, you know, do it one or two times and then boom, you know, I've got it down. It doesn't really work like that. It doesn't work like that for meditation either. Right? It, it, you start off by doing it in small increments and you might only be able to sit for two minutes at a time and then you work your way up.

Speaker 2:

I like it. It probably did

Speaker 3:

small increments. Yeah. I have only been doing this myself. I have only the last few years and I remember the first time trying this and I remember after, I mean my after two minutes might not know if it was even two minutes. My mind was, you know, off to the races thinking about all right, what am I going to do after this? You know, just kind of being in that centered space of presence and it's like, all right, well learning how to just kind of check in with your body. What is my body feeling right now other than what you're thinking. Like, you know, how's my body feeling? How are my legs feeling? How am I feeling? How are my hands feeling? How's my heart feeling? How are my legs feeling?

Speaker 2:

And back to that TA back to what we discussed about the media and what you're saying about, you know, they make their living in controversy and negativity and the fact is that when you're filling your mind with that stuff, that is what you're thinking about and then that is covering up all these things you just said. You're not aware of how you're really feeling. You're not in touch with your body. Instead, you've got all these negative thoughts and emotions that are covering up what's really going on internally.

Speaker 3:

Exactly. Exactly. So just, you know, doing those little check-ins with yourself, with your own body, creating that awareness, allowing your body, I have a chance to respond to you.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Yeah, I like it. And I like what you're doing with your clients. For those people listening, how do they get ahold of you? If there someone out there is listening going, man, this guy is great. I want him to be my coach. How do they get in touch with you?

Speaker 3:

I have a website, poach Dom campbell.com there's a contact page there with my phone number, my email, my Facebook page. You can just go there and get all of my contact info. You can also give me a ring. Um, my phone number is seven three two eight, six, seven, eight, seven, seven zero. Um, and you can reach me there as well.

Speaker 2:

Awesome. So give coach Dom a call, he'll walk you off the ledge of life and into a life of happiness, bliss and better health.

Speaker 3:

Dave, I would love to, I would love to offer something special too.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, let's do it.

Speaker 3:

This is the second time that you've had me. I just want to show some appreciation and it's the holidays. So I want to give, um, on my website people will see that I offer a 55 minute breakthrough session and I normally charge$147 for that on the website. If they book through that, um, I'd like to give anybody listening to this podcast, 50% off of that. So, um, just mention you can email me, don't use the link on the website, just get in touch with me, email me or call me or Facebook messenger me. Um, but let me know that you heard this podcast and I will offer at 50% off. Okay. You plugged into that discount.

Speaker 2:

That's outstanding. And for those of you listening, I know that, uh, when we record things that we don't, can't say them exactly clearly as we would like. It's coach Dom, Dom as in mother, Dom Campbell and uh, and Dom, your last name is the traditional spelling of Campbell, right?

Speaker 3:

Yup. Just like the soup. C. P. B. E. L. L. yup.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Well this has been a terrific episode. I'm glad to have you back on Dom and is there any final thoughts you want to share before we let you go?

Speaker 3:

No, I just want to say thank you for having me on the show. Dave, this has been great. I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and I hope that you and your listeners have received some value from it today.

Speaker 2:

I received a lot of value myself and so hopefully everyone else did as well. Thank you so much Tom.

Speaker 3:

You're very welcome. Thank you.

Speaker 2:

And to those of you listening, this is Dave Sherwin wishing you health and success. Well, thanks again for listening. I hope you enjoyed that as much as I did. And just reminder that that course, the mini course, health and fitness for busy professionals is available for free download at[inaudible] dot com so check that out. D I, R O B[inaudible] dot com see you next time.

Speaker 1:

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