The Dirobi Health Show

On Anti Aging. The Foods, Stress Reducers, and Exercises that Turn Back the Clock with Dr. Jannine Krause

December 19, 2019 Dr. Jannine Krause Season 1 Episode 123
The Dirobi Health Show
On Anti Aging. The Foods, Stress Reducers, and Exercises that Turn Back the Clock with Dr. Jannine Krause
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Dr. Krause is a doctor of naturopathic medicine, an acupuncturist and podcast host dedicated to empowering people to take charge of their own health. Her unique approach is simplifying natural medicine and healthy habit formation.
She believes that health starts with what we eat, how we move and how well we manage stress.

Listen in as we discuss cutting edge ways to improve diet, reduce stress, and increase mobility in order to keep your best health for as long as possible.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

medicine and an expert in anti-aging. So for those of you that live in the same universe that I do, where time keeps ticking and things change, she's going to help us to keep the best health we can for as long as we can through nutrition and through mobility. And we'll talk about a variety of topics to do with anti-aging. Her unique approach is to simplify natural medicine and create healthy habit formation. She believes that health starts with what we eat, how we move, and how well we manage stress. So we'll jump into those three areas today. Dr Kraus, thank you so much for being on the show.

Speaker 3:

Thanks Dave for having me. Appreciate it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this is great. And you have your own podcast as well. And I didn't mention that, but why don't you tell people about your podcast?

Speaker 3:

Sure. My podcast is called the health fix and I am simplifying naturopathic medicine, trying to just put the latest information out on what works and breaking it down super simple so that folks can implement these things at home and take charge of their health.

Speaker 2:

And for your information, dr Krause's PR manager invited me to be on her show as well. So this is a reciprocal kind of a thing and I look forward to being on her show as well. There'll be a lot of fun and, and yet we're starting here. You're being interviewed by me today and these three topics are ones that I'm very interested in because I'm 53 years old and I want to be as healthy as I possibly can for as long as I possibly can. And that's kind of your main interest, isn't it?

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. I started to realize that even at 35 things were changing and so I made it a mission to figure it out and help others figure it out too. So glad that you are also on board with helping folks age better.

Speaker 2:

I absolutely am. I'm at that age now. I have, I have grandkids and you know, I want to live as long as I can and be as healthy as I can for a long time. My wife and I both wanted to be young with our kids. You know, we're family people and for me I just kind of, I looked out at the world and I, I saw dads who by the time they were even as young as 40 we're so out of shape that if their kid was a boy scout, he couldn't like go on the hike with them, you know what I mean? And I always thought, you know, I want to be, I want to be young with my kids and, and now that I'm having grandkids, I got a whole new perspective now. It's, I want to continue to be young with my grandkids and keep this going as long as I can. So yeah, the older you get, I think the more important this becomes.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. Absolutely. I love that you mentioned staying young for the kids. And their grandkids because I think a lot of people stay young for their kids and then it gets to grandkids age and then things start to Slack. So I love that you've got renewed inspiration for saying,

Speaker 2:

yeah, it's a beautiful thing and a lot of fun. So let's jump right into it. First of all, let's start with stress. And first of all, give us a definition. I think we all intuitively have some understanding of what stress is, but tell us your definition.

Speaker 3:

My definition of stress would be the body's inability to handle what's coming at it and thus it ends up causing disease or dis, if you will.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and can you give us some examples of how that would manifest?

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. First and foremost, it has to do a lot with what's happening in the mind. You start to find that you have this feeling of always needing to be doing something and never doing enough. You're never getting things completed. Then that kind of sometimes turns into a sense of over whelmed or doom for that matter, and those would be some of the mental science. Then there's gut signs and we might end up with things that folks are familiar with. The IBS alternation between constipation, maybe some diarrhea, maybe some incidents where you're having to run to the bathroom. So that could be part of it.[inaudible] allergies, kind of collecting foods you become sensitive to could be part of it as well. Headaches, pain, muscle tension, weight gain, you name it. Pretty much everything you could think of in terms of a common symptom that we would chalk up for aging would be considered a sign of stress.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So obviously we can't diagnose everyone listening to the show, four levels of stress and types of stress and yet there's gotta be some major solutions and ideas that you have to generally help people manage stress. What are some of the top ways people can manage their stress better?

Speaker 3:

One of my favorite ways of looking at stress management is identifying

Speaker 4:

how stress is affecting you. My goal for everyone is to dive in and get to know their bodies a little bit better. I think that we are disconnected from our bodies and we don't really know what's causing what. So a good old fashioned journal as to what's happening with your body and how stress manifests for you because I'm listed off a bunch of different things, but stress does manifest differently. So my first way of tackling it is actually getting to know your body better and figuring out how you're responding to stress. Then once we have an idea of how stress manifests in your body, then we start with going, okay, what time of day are we having these issues? Because cortisol being the hormone that's most related to stress, it fluxes during the day, so in the morning it's the highest and at night it should be the lowest to help you sleep, but say if insomnia is your number one symptom of stress, you're thinking about what happened during the day. You can't shut your brain off. Well, we've got to figure out what to do with cortisol, right in that evening time. Most folks, the biggest thing that's happening is well, screen time, too much time on the computer screens, the iPhones, the iPads, et cetera, or even watching TV too late. Then the other thing we're looking at is how big of a meal and how late did you eat that meal? So managing stress actually starts with managing some of your habits to help you to get further and get a little bit more chill. So having a good bedtime ritual is one of my favorite solutions for helping with stress because most of us do not sleep well when we're stressed out. The other thing is, is looking at your daily habits. If you're starting off your morning in a fury because you don't know what you're going to wear, you don't know what you're going to eat, you don't know what the kids are going to wear, whatever it may be. However many things that add to you feeling overwhelmed in any given moment is going to make a huge difference on how well you manage stress. So I like to have folks take things out of their life that aren't serving them, but also working on better routines. So in my details for solutions, I've got a course that goes way far into how to work with daily routines to help you be less stressed. So that's where I typically start with things. Get connected with your body and start to work on daily routines. Yes, there's supplements and you can take supplements to the cows come home. You can take adaptogenic herbs as well, but getting the routine down, getting how you manifest stress in your body down in really recognizes that connection to your stress and your body that's going to give you the longterm solutions more than a lot of the herbs and supplements can.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of interesting as you talk about it, you talk about it from a really physical point of view. This is one of the reasons I wanted you to kind of define stress because I think that if we asked 50 to define stress, we may get 50 different answers. Like to me, I've always understood it more to be something in your mind. Right. And you alluded to that as far as you know, your mind going crazy so you can't sleep and the stress is a feeling as a sense of overwhelmed and yet it's interesting that you focus so much on physical solutions to stress. I find that interesting because I've always put stress more on the category of a mental or mental issue, but from what you're saying, these habits, routines and dealing with it physically, even though it may be experienced mentally, you're taking more of a physical approach as a solution. Am I understanding that right?

Speaker 3:

You're absolutely correct and the reason I do take a more physical approach is because if you try to tell people to meditate, how many people do you think actually are gonna hammer down that medication and really take the time to do that? What do you think, Dave?

Speaker 2:

Well, not enough. I mean I, I am a meditator. I actually attend a a Tsonga and I have a daily meditation practice and I talk about that on the show, but as if I could pull the audience, people who've listened on a regular basis of how many have picked up a habit of meditation, I don't, I don't know, but I would assume less than 20%

Speaker 3:

yeah, I would have to agree with you on that. It's one of the things I find in my practice that tackling the emotional side of stress is difficult. I do work with helping folks to work on breathing some different forms of meditation. I'll be honest, I suck at meditation myself, although I've tried multiple, multiple times to to do well with it. I just can't. And so what I ended up doing is finding things that I love, such as kicking around a soccer ball in my office if I feel like I'm a little stressed working on drawing, I love to doodle, things of that nature. So taking folks from becoming overwhelmed in the mind and taking it to something physical that they can do to distract themselves while they're working on the connection to physical stress in their body. And I think the reason I talk about physical stress too is because a lot of people are aware of the emotional factors of it, but a lot of folks are not aware of how stress affects your body physically and how it contributes to your age and aging for that matter.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I love it. And I think there's also a big misunderstanding when just like I said, you know, if you ask 50 people what stress means, ask the same 50 people, what does mindfulness and meditation mean? You'll get a lot of different answers as well. And so to me, meditation supports mindfulness. Being mindful throughout the day is really the goal that we're trying to achieve. And when you talk about kicking around a soccer ball, that totally makes sense. What you're doing is an activity that is fun and is helping you focus 100% on what you're doing. Like if you watch a soccer player, especially who's juggling a soccer ball, for example, they have to be completely focused on what they're doing. And so rather than have their mind jumping back to some recent embarrassment or looking forward to a future stressor or having anxiety about an upcoming wedding, or who knows what a public speech they have to give our mind can be all over the place. Right? So to me, the biggest part of meditation is developing that ability to be focused on what we're doing. And when we're focused on what we're doing, we're not dwelling in the past or rehashing old crud or worrying about the future and stuff that may never even happen. So I like that because I think a lot of people misunderstand. They think that meditation means you have to become a monk sitting for hours on end. You know? That's the part that's really hard for people when an actual fact, simply being mindful is really the main goal. Right. And I think that's what you're, you're hitting on there.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. Absolutely. Finding something that you enjoy to be fine. Well, no, I kick around soccer balls. If I had the ability, I will go into a rock climbing the one thing in addition to kicking soccer balls and drying, that can really pull me out of thinking about, Oh gosh, I just ruined that. Or Oh goodness, what's coming up in life? I like to help people find their meditation. What's going to work for them.

Speaker 2:

And by the way, just as an interesting aside, I've got my two oldest boys are both meditators. One of them took a transcendental meditation course and does that 20 minutes twice a day. And the other uses apps like waking up and Headspace and him and I are more on the same path in our meditative habits and both of them are rock climbers. And in the rock climbing community, there's been research by people in the mindfulness community on rock climbers and rock climbers have one of the highest abilities as a general population to be completely mindful. As you can imagine, that's pretty important when you're, you know, 800 feet up a cliff that you are a hundred percent focused on what you're doing. So, so it turns out that rock climbing is a particularly good habit for helping you be 100% focused on what you're doing.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely, absolutely. Because yeah, outdoors, it's the difference between life and death and a lot of situation. It's cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Well cool. Let's move on to food. You contend that food is a major causer of stress or it could also be a major positive influence and overcoming stress. Let's talk about foods and their relationship to stress.

Speaker 3:

All right, so couple different things about foods. It's often a double edge sword because a lot of people when they become stressed they end up stress or avoiding foods because that's their response to stress. They stop eating or the other side of it is not prepping your food, not getting ready for the day or the week and finding yourself eating out quite a bit. The more food that you that is processed, that is what I call Frankenfood, you know, can we say that a lot of money

Speaker 4:

podcasts, it's food that's dyes, colors, things not as nature intended and those kinds of things get into your digestive system and really Republic and they disrupt your gut microbiome, which is also disrupted by stress just naturally. And so if you're eating crappy Franken foods and then you're combining it with a huge overload of stress and then maybe you're smoking to manage your stress, maybe you're drinking to manage your stress. Now you've got a lot of things that are beating up that gut and you end up having certain gut issues that can develop over time, which can then turn into skin rashes and turn into rashes that come on with stress, so hives, things of that nature, and you just kind of have a whole downslide of different things that come when the gut is not doing well. Now in terms of food that can help you with stress, these are foods that are easy to digest, so I take a lot of insulin, let's put it that way, from the Chinese medicine dietary therapy principles, which have been around for about 5,000 years, and that kind of trumps any diet out there that we've seen in the last couple of decades. So I find that the more digestible foods, so foods that are warm, not raw, soups, stews, things of that nature, things that are cooked slowly and say a crock pot or over the stove for a longer period of time. These types of things are just a lot better for your gut. And of course I'm always going to say veggies and higher fiber foods because these guys are going to help nourish your gut lining. We need short chain fatty acids that are created from fibers to help our gut lining stay strong and battle stress.

Speaker 2:

Okay. What are the things, I love that you said in there, cause I totally track with you, I'm a certified fitness coach myself and one of the things that I've learned through my studies is that the raw food crowd is mostly wrong. I know, I know this is counterintuitive to a lot of people and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you shouldn't pick up a banana or a carrot and just eat it as it is of course. But there are people out there that are absolutely convinced that eating raw foods uncooked is healthier than eating cooked foods. And I disagree with that. And you disagree with that. And I'd like you to talk to to that a little bit more because there are probably people out there that really feel like if they cook that carrot, they've cooked out some of the nutrition. And so talk about why it's important to cook food.

Speaker 3:

All right. I love it. This is one of my favorite ones because I go rounds a lot with folks and I also see the effects of chronic raw food consumption over time in my office, that usually ends up being with digestive issues such as diarrhea, burping, gas loading. That becomes

Speaker 4:

really impactful in folks lives. They're ending up having locks it in South 80 kids to the bathroom. So that's one thing I will say about the lawsuits department now in terms of talking about why cook foods are better. Well, yes, I do see the point in which if you're cooking your food, you're gonna lose some of its nutrition. That is if you cook your food at high heat and you're using the wrong types of oils, let's put it that way. Meaning you can't take all of oil and crank it up to high heat and expect that you're going to get all the nutrition out of that food that you're trying to cook. You're going to have the olive oil be rancid. You're not going to get the nutrients. Now say you want to plant or steam or lightly boil some of these carrots. Let's talk about carrots. Let's just use carrots for example. Now, yeah, you're gonna get some of the nutrients into that water. Okay, great. Make a sauce out of that water. Drink that water. I don't care how you get it in. You're going to get your B vitamins there, the B, and C, because they're water soluble. Now to get your fat soluble vitamins out of your food, you got to bust those cells of the food apart and so this is vitamins, ADV and K. they are liberated when you cook with fats, so sautéing a carrots or putting in a crockpot with a little bit of oil, you're going to get those nutrients out of there. The other thing is is that as humans, we don't have the capability to break down cell walls of plant material, so how are you going to get the nutrients from that plant material if you can't break down those cell walls effectively? You can't. You have to heat these foods up to a high enough degree to bust open the South to be able to consume it. Now, I do know that some raw food folks will heat up their food to a certain degree or certain temperature. Yes, I agree with that to a point. However, I don't find that a lot of people actually do heat their foods up to that degree. They're just really hardcore cold right out of the fridge raw. So for example, let's take it to another level. How many folks out there have had a smoothie where they took the berries straight out of the freezer, threw it in to the blender, threw in some spinach during their cold almond milk, for example, threw in some protein powder, blended it up, and just went right straight to drinking it. That is a cold drink. What does ice do when you put ice on your skin? It numbs the area. So what do you think is happening in your stomach? If you numb your stomach, you're not able to release the digestive enzymes that you need to break down that food properly to get your nutrition from it. So there's a lot of different things that I can argue about with the raw foods, but in particular it's not optimal for digestion. And if you go back to Chinese dietary therapy where we're looking at warming the foods and using foods that have been banned, like rice and barley, you know, these evil grains and legumes, the Chinese cooked these very, very extensively to break down the lectins. Now they didn't have InstaPot's and pressure cookers, but Instapot and pressure cookers are great for helping to increase digestibility of the grains and legumes for that matter. Sprouting. Another thing that can help in this case, so my point being by going into that is that the best thing you can do for your body is have your food a little bit pre digested for you. And that's what cooking it does. So you're a raw foodie and you're like, I just can't really cook my food that much. Okay, fine. Plan check really quickly. Steam really quickly. You're gonna get the benefits because you're heating that food up just enough to bust open those cells to get the nutrients that you need. So that's my stance, the raw food and the versus the cooked food.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I love it and it totally makes sense to me. And I think in addition there's the evolutionary biology argument, which also makes a lot of sense. And that is that men became man after inventing fire, right? The basically know if you, an ape today in a zoo spends ive hours chewing food and a lot of people don't know that, but its digestive system is using up most of its energy. Whereas a human, we use most of our energy running our brain and secondarily running our digestive system. And ne of the reasons for that is because our digestive system doesn't have to work that hard because we're super smart with opposable thumbs and figured out how to cook food. And so I think that theory is fascinating that through the theory of evolution of learning to cook food, so it was pre digested so that our brains could develop more. Makes a lot of sense. So another reason, I don't know if you've heard that ne before. Is that a, an argument you've heard before?

Speaker 3:

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. ne of my big things that I talked about with stress and just life in general is that we don't use our teeth enough and they're a free resource that we have that it can save us having to spend tons of money on digestive enzymes. And so knowing that the, we've got ive hours of chewing going on with animals, with apes clash, you know, I would venture to say that most humans probably don't even get a quarter of that in. If you look at

Speaker 4:

in terms of even a week of June.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And, and the other point there is that they have to, because they're eating raw foods and it takes forever and then it takes a long time to digest versus as a human, when you eat cooked food, your body can process it much faster. Freeing up that energy for our big brain. Right. So let's move on to mobility. There's another point that you and I agree on strongly and this is ne that I'm coming to appreciate, the older that I get and that is daily mobility. It used to be when I was younger that I could exercise a few times a week, hree or our times a week and feel limber and healthy, keep my flexibility and what I found is the older I get, the more important it is that I exercise every single day. You talk about daily mobility on your website and I want to hear you talk about that. Talk about mobility irst. Maybe give a definition what mobility is. Let's start with that.

Speaker 3:

All right, so this is going to be my definition. Again. My definition of mobility is really we seen your joints being able to put your body into positions that you typically not go into on a daily basis and therefore having your joints work really. So we're getting moving freely without restrictions. That's how I would sum up mobility.

Speaker 2:

Okay. And ne of those most basic positions would be a squat. We spend so much time sitting in chairs, often in a bad position in other countries, they squat a lot to eat, to chat and uh, you see someone who hits the gym in merica who hasn't hit a gym for a few years and watch them go over and do a squat, they can barely get down. As a matter of fact, what's really funny is when you see these guys that think they're so awesome with tons of weight on the bar and they're going down like hree inches.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's ne I think obvious example that our bodies should be able to go down. Like you should be able to sit with your butt basically resting on your ankles, right?

Speaker 3:

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. You know, going back to the countries in which folks have the ability to squat into their older years, that's where you get longevity. And I'll tell you ne of the things that really hit me in terms of watching mobility, my father[inaudible] all while it's impressive how great mobility he has and pretty darn good.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So I gave ne example of ne that I've just noticed. What are some examples of loss of mobility that we're seeing in people who aren't actively working on their mobility?

Speaker 3:

A lot of folks that I see are having issues with me shoulders too of course, but knees and ankles are important because if someone's not squatting regularly, they're also going to have ankles that don't move as well and the needs are not as well. And so what we've got is we've got adhesions going on between the skin to the myofascial, so the tissue that's wrapping the muscles and the skin and and and laying in that area between the tissue and the muscle and what helps the wo thing gliding. So not only is mobility related to joints in, in my book, I love to think about how the tissue is connected there and so yes, ankle mobility, I think it's a big deal and I think a lot of people have either had ankle sprains injured themselves

Speaker 4:

in terms of back and having back pain because the ankles aren't moving loud feet for that matter too. I think a lot of people have extremely rigid feet, maybe because of core shoes, but also quite possibly because we're looking at just not using their feet to full capacity. For example, ne of the mobility drills that I work with folks is trying to stand on your tippy toes. How many people can do that? How many people, when's the last time, let's put it that way. When's the last time they stood on their tippy toes? When's the last time you stood on your heels and tried to balance. So these are interesting mobility things that I like to think about in terms of feet, knees, ankles, and then shoulders. That could be a whole nother podcast. I could go on for hours.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And so do you have resources on your website or what do you do to help people improve their mobility?

Speaker 4:

So right now I don't have anything on my website. I should, I have some videos on YouTube where I have folks get an old fashioned a racer. So those rectangular racers that most of us in our age range had in school and use that eraser to work around the joints. Just kind of giving yourself a self-massage around the joints daily. Then going in to working on moving all your toes, trying to stand on your tippy toes, trying to balance on your heels. Then putting your ankles through a series of motions. In fact, I do have a YouTube video of myself going through my daily mobility routine, which is a very basic wake up and move all your joints. Just grease the joints easily. So I'd recommend checking that out. And my YouTube channel is dr J Kraus, so that's something to head for. I should put that on my website though now that you're mentioning.

Speaker 2:

We'll put it in our show notes too. We'll grab that video. For those of you listening, if you go to[inaudible] dot com and click on the blog or click on the podcast both ways, we'll get you there. Look for this episode with dr Krauss. Her last name is K, R a. U. S. E. if you just search Kraus, uh, we'll have all the show notes, everything we talked about in this episode, some quotables and we'll also make sure and just embed that video right there. So you'll be able to just go and grab all these resources in ne place. Now, from my experience, and I didn't discover mobility until it was almost too late frankly because I was a very competitive endurance racer. I did trapline for a long time. I did Spartan races, I did a lot of running races and I did kind of stretch out right like a lot of runners do. But I really didn't understand mobility so until I start a CrossFit, after I stopped doing endurance sports I S I just went to a CrossFit gym cause it was super easy to just show up, get a good hard workout and yet I found very quickly I was that guy that I was just mocking a little while ago. I couldn't go down into a squat. My ankle mobility just like you described was terrible. My shoulders were terrible. It took me years to unwind a lot of the damage I had done by not developing mobility. And then what I started to realize very quickly is just how bad it was and how much work it really takes. To this day. I still work pretty hard on my mobility. It's a, an important part of, of my routine and it's a commitment and I think that's just probably a reality check for most people that this is not something you can do for ive or en minutes a week and see any improvement on. Right. Like this actually is going to take some work.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's really, this is a daily team. When you mentioned resources, I totally forgot about Kelly[inaudible]. He's a physical therapist, a, the books up on that burn is probably ne of the number ne books that I refer as to, but also ne of the books that really kind of solidified it for me. Then, yeah, CrossFit, I definitely know he did to be able to do a lot more mobility once I got into CrossFit as well, but just for daily living. I think getting a really good mobility routine down and sticking with that routine because as Dave just said, it's not something that you can do for a little bit and quit. It is a daily routine. If you want to be running into your eighties if you want to be playing with those grandkids and crawling around on the floor and not spending the whole next day in bed because you're so sore, you got to do the mobility, you have to do it

Speaker 2:

well. And I love the reference to Kelly stret. That book really saved me because that was what my CrossFit coach told me to get. I got the electronic version, which I'm happy I did because I was able to go through and highlight a lot of the areas. I had a lot of knee pain at the time. Like I said, I couldn't get down into a squat and that book made a huge difference. As a matter of fact, I've referred it to a lot of people. So it's Kelly stir at becoming a supple leopard. If you're currently dealing with mobility issues, shoulders, back, knees, hips, I don't care what it is, he's gotta be the King of this arena, don't you think?

Speaker 3:

Oh absolutely. I think he was the pioneer and kind of giving them a weakness, but also, I mean his stuff is so on point. It's really well thought out and it can help everybody. You don't have to be a CrossFit junkie to utilize his work. I think everyone.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. And we've had some really good stuff.[inaudible] we've got hree main topics I want to talk to you about. Stress. You covered that really well. We talked about nutrition, I like everything you had to say there. And now we've talked about mobility and those hree things it seems like has really become your emo in your practice, right? And helping people to achieve this anti-aging thing that everyone who's growing older is interested in. Right. Those are the hree biggies.

Speaker 3:

Those are the hree biggies. That's where I start with, that's the foundation. Of course, we tweak it based on every individual because no ne person is gonna be the same as the next person. But yeah, those are my hree biggies, how I roll in my office.

Speaker 2:

Okay. And it would be impossible to give everyone everything you know in a podcast. This is introductory at best. Hopefully people have got some great tips from this episode, of course. But for those who want to learn more, where can they do that?

Speaker 3:

All right, well you can find me online at dr J Kraus, N D, so N as in Nancy, D as in dog for naturopathic, octor dot com odcast dot com also forwards to that and if you want to see my personality and how I think from day to day, Instagram is a great place to find me. That's dr Janine, J a N N. I N. E Krauss care a. U. S E. so dr Steen cross all smashed together and you can find all about what I'm up to and the latest things I'm thinking about and keep up with me there.

Speaker 2:

I love it. And before I let you go, we've covered a lot of territory, but is there any closing thoughts or things that you didn't get to say that you'd like to say or just anything you want to add to kind of put a big bow on this episode before we call it a wrap?

Speaker 3:

Oh, I think the biggest thing that I'd love folks to take away from this podcast is to start connecting with yourself. Start to realize what is changing in your body as you get older and what things might be related to how your, your body's managing stress. And take a look at that. Make it a little note, make a little chart maybe if you will, and start to work on how you can improve your routines to help get you less stressed over time.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I love it. And with that, this is Dave Sherwin wishing you all health and success.

Speaker 1:

Well, thanks again for listening. I hope you enjoyed that as much as I did. And just a reminder that that course, the mini course, health and fitness for busy professionals is available for free download at[inaudible] dot com so check that out. D I R O B[inaudible] dot com we'll see you next time.