Joint pain is the #1 cause of disability in the US. For people suffering with joint pain, Turmeric is being touted as the new natural wonder supplement. In this episode we explore the science behind Turmeric and Curcumin, and the cool research and clinical studies that have gone into turning Turmeric into something that anybody with joint pain should consider as part of their natural care and healing. With special guest Tony Montanari, PhD. in Medicinal and Natural Product Chemistry.
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Joint pain is the #1 cause of disability in the US. For people suffering with joint pain, Turmeric is being touted as the new natural wonder supplement. In this episode we explore the science behind Turmeric and Curcumin, and the cool research and clinical studies that have gone into turning Turmeric into something that anybody with joint pain should consider as part of their natural care and healing. With special guest Tony Montanari, PhD. in Medicinal and Natural Product Chemistry.
See all episode artwork, links and notes at:
https://blog.dirobi.com
This show is for informational purposes only.
None of the information in this podcast should be construed as dispensing medical advice.
These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
Find episode links, notes and artwork at:
https://blog.dirobi.com
This show is for informational purposes only.
None of the information in this podcast should be construed as dispensing medical advice.
These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
Welcome to the Derby health show covering the world of fitness, nutrition and supplementation with worldclass guests. The latest clinical research and plenty of tips you can use right away to boost your health and wellness. Here's your host, Dave Sherwin. Welcome to the[inaudible].
Speaker 2:Hi, Robbie podcast. This is Dave Sherwin when you're hosting. Today's episode is one I've been excited about for quite some time. There's a very popular supplement right supplement right now, turmeric or curcumin and products are named after one or the other. They're extremely popular on Amazon and honestly I just thought there was a lot of hype around it. I thought it was going to be the next kind of Garcinia Cambogia, Dr Oz, a kind of product that really didn't have much substance behind it. But last year I went to one of the large supplement shows with my only intention being to find clinically studied ingredients that would deserve it and be worthy of the mimis miracle brand. Something that would really change lives and really be effective. And you know when you put the word miracle in your products, it kind of raises the bar. You've really got to find effective ingredients and ideally those that are clinically researched and proven to be effective. And I spent a long time, I mean there's thousands of ingredients small over the world, but when you're looking only for those that are clinically researched, you're able to weed that down. And I was able to find about 40 products that met my criteria. But out of those 40, I found one that just blew me away. And I'm super excited to announce Mimi's miracle turmeric, which is based on a patented product called curcumin life and today with me, or are the kind of the powers behind the throne of that product. We got Tony[inaudible] who has a phd in medicinal natural product chemistry. Um, did I say that right? Tony? Medicinal natural product chemistry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm, and so this is all an natural products chemistry
Speaker 2:after all the time I spent trying to get that. Exactly right. And then I did. So thank you for clarifying. After receiving his phd, he worked for five years on the department. Uh, he spent five years at the Department of Citrus in Florida where you researched compounds and citrus plants that may have the ability to impact human health and combat cancer. And he has been in the nutraceutical industry for the last 20 years. He's currently the laboratory manager at Earth's creation and we also have Jordan pass waters who is the head of research and development that are his creation. He has a bs in biology and has worked for the company for the last eight years. Fellows, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Thank you for having us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well like I said, I, I actually met you guys at the, uh, supplements show and Jordan or you know, I met you first and you, you showed me your product. And at first I honestly was kind of skeptical because my impression had been that this was just what I said earlier, kind of a, you know, a, a product that sounded really great and promised all kinds of things but was likely something that didn't have a whole lot of substance behind it. But there you were. And showing me your product. Gave me a few samples and told me about the clinical studies, which we'll talk about later, but, but tell us about how this product came into into being. You guys have formulated a lot of products, but this one just seems to be a home run, a really amazing product. Tell us how this came about.
Speaker 3:Okay. Um, maybe, uh, if I can take that question, Tony Montana, sorry. Yeah. For centuries people that have consumed foods can two things like spices, like turmeric. And over time people realize that when they consume these foods, they feel better. And that experience carries on through the centuries and years. And then finally, medical science studies it and they look at it and they say, hey, these people really do feel better. And they concentrated down to the point where they can look at the active components and try and determine what are the active components and why are they working. And here at Earth creation, what we realized is that there are compounds in turmeric called curcumin opioids that are responsible for the biological activity of turmeric. However, when you look at curcuminoids, they don't make it into the body very well. You have to eat vast quantities of turmeric in order to get the benefits of the procurements. Okay. That's so weird.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, let, let, let me cut you off right there because I want to interject something before you finish the story. You just mentioned the benefits of Turmeric and that for centuries people have used it. I did a quick Google search the other day in preparation for this interview. And let me just read you a short list of the benefits. Like honestly it does sound over the top when you do a quick Google search. And for those who are skeptical of supplements, uh, and, and I'm kind of, I come at it a little bit skeptical myself. I always want something that has a lot of research behind it. So anytime I see something that sounds too good to be true, I think, you know, maybe it is. And so I better be careful. I mean when you Google turmeric or curcumin benefits on Google, and these are some pretty credible sources and they say that it does, everything from promotes healthy joints, improves heart health, cognitive function, immune system balance, cardiovascular health, joint mobility and flexibility regulates the digestive system, provides antioxidant benefits, optimizes overall body comfort, empowers positive overall wellbeing. And that's not even covering the 30 additional conditions I found on Web MD, which is web MD is a fairly conservative ama style website that isn't prone to exaggeration. And so we're talking about such a big list in so many areas of the body that, um, it again, it seems like a wonder drug or is something, it's not a drug, but you know what I mean, like that, that's a huge list of benefits. And so, um, so
Speaker 3:that's look good. This is the common experience. In other words, the whole idea behind the dietary supplement revolution is that people know what make them feel good and people in the vitamin business look at what makes people feel good and they try and concentrate it and try and deliver it in a better form. And really that's what Turkey, like this curriculum is a delivery system for the business end of turmeric. The active components in turmeric is Kurt are chemical compounds called curcuminoids and curcuminoids are very badly absorbed by the body and what we have done here at earth creation and come up with a formulation that allow humanoids to get into the bloodstream much better than any other formulation in the industry.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 3:And I agree with you. I think sometimes dietary supplements are oversold. Uh, I would, I would restrict the activity of our product to things like joint health, right. Oh, cognitive health and liver health. That's what I would focus in on with this product. And I wouldn't make claims for anything else.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well I appreciate the honesty and that is awesome. Uh, and, and deliver health one was not mentioned in the bullet list that, that I read off. So that's, that's interesting. And that's a, that's a new one to me. So, and, and, and you know, the, the areas you mentioned are good enough, right? Like why exaggerate? Like those are pretty powerful, especially for someone who has chronic joint pain. Right? Like, why make all the other promises if you really can't back them up when for people with joint pain, I, this can really be a game changer for them. Right.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 3:Oh, you, what you've got to realize is that a joint pain is the number one cause of disability in the United States, and so if you can affect people's joint pain, you're hoping an awful lot of people,
Speaker 2:well, yeah, it's powerful. And you already, you already touched on this, but turmeric is the, is the spice, and of course adding turmeric to food is just a good healthy practice anyway, but what you're saying is you can add all the tumeric you want and it's kind of a powerful spice, so you really are kind of limited in how much you would want to add to your food, but a person eating more turmeric just isn't going to get these kinds of of benefits, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, go, go ahead. Yeah, you would need to eat, you need to go to the store and take on turmeric jars off the shelf and just that's just one of your meals every day is just eating straight turmeric powder and that would maybe be equal to one Softail of curriculum.
Speaker 2:And why is that? Why is it so hard for your body to utilize it? You know, I tend to think of herbs and fruits and vegetables. It's things that the body is kind of adapted to, to take in and, and, and utilize. But what you're saying is that turmeric or the, the curcuminoids in the tumeric are very difficult for the body to utilize. Why is that
Speaker 5:okay?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Your body has a defense mechanisms in that built into them and your body can recognize individual chemicals. For example, your body knows how to recognize sugars and fats and amino acids. Correct. And so it recognizes those things and knows how to grab onto them and take them where they need to go. Curcuminoids humanoids are not part of the makeup of your body and your body knows how to look at something and tell whether or not it's something that it needs and that if it doesn't need it, it will. It will tag that chemical and immediately get rid of it. And so most of that happens on in the inner lining of your small intestine, so on the inner lining of your small intestine, there are very intelligent century enzymes and the century has, I'm look at everything and see a curcuminoid. It'll say, Aha, I doesn't belong in here. The century enzyme is not intelligent. Essentially it's on just once to look at, wants to see whether or not something belongs or not. The Century on time, we'll see this curcuminoid, it'll tag it and immediately once you put that tag on it, the curcuminoids are excreted back into the small intestine and then eliminated and that for that reason, very, there's a very, very small proportion of Kirk humanoids that actually make it into the bloodstream. What we've done at position is we've made a, what is called a my cell and we've placed the curcuminoids inside of the, my style and my Saul is, is a sphere that surrounds the curcuminoids and the, my cell can talk the trick humanoids past the century enzymes and allow the curcuminoids to enter the bloodstream. And our clinical studies have basically shown or able to produce 45 times the amount of curcumin voids in the bloodstream than any other form of curcumin or, or, and or turmeric.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about those for a minute. One thing that's very popular is that it's being taught that if you add pepper black pepper to turmeric or curcumin, then they'll absorb and then there'll be useful. But your clinical studies have gone up against products that are attempting to do things like that and they're not effective. Can you talk to this, uh, understanding of the marketplace that just taking black pepper along with
Speaker 3:you're good? Yeah. Yeah. Some of our competitors have been able to improve, slightly improve, uh, curcuminoid absorption into the bloodstream. We, but we are 10 times better than their best, so we can still get 10 times as much curcuminoid into the bloodstream as they can.
Speaker 2:That's, we're 45 times.
Speaker 3:We're 45 times better than term or pure curcuminoid and were 10 times better than our competition.
Speaker 2:And that is a powerful claim. And yet you guys back it up and I gotta tell you one more little story. I didn't even tell Jordan this, I don't think, but he gave me his very generous at the show. I think he gave me four or five bottles to take home. And at the time I had been dealing with chronic pain in my forearms. I'd never had this before. It was a strange thing. My right elbow and my forearm, both my forearms and my wrists were just bugging me. I do crossfit, which is very intensive on a, you know, grip and um, I don't know what I'd done, but for months I had had this, this pain and I'd tried rubbing, uh, you know, various creams in there and I tried to warm up really well and nothing I, I did worked and I kid you not, I came home from that show when I was my own first test subject. I started taking this product and I kid you not. The, the dramatic difference in about two weeks was awesome. It was one of the things that inspired me to go for this product first. I'm, like I say, I came home, there was a lot of good products at that show. Out of the thousands of booths, there was about 30 to 40 outstanding products, just excellent products that I know I'd be proud to put the mimis miracle brand on and that we could bring to our customers. But this one, like I said, it just is head and shoulders above any of those others. It's why we're going with it first. And so I believe you as a, as a user, I believe you when you tell me how effective this is and before we jump into these clinical trials, um, maybe you could tell us a little bit about how you figured this out. I mean, this is obviously a, you know, a, a real chemistry trick to do what you did. How did you guys develop this process so that the curcuminoids could be actually utilized by the body?
Speaker 3:Yeah. In other words that I want to say, I'm sorry. I see. It sounds like it's mostly me for Jordan sit there and, um, yeah, basically, you know, it didn't take long for people to figure out that very little of the trek humanoids we're getting into the bloodstream because kick humanoids are very easy to study there. They're there, they're very easy to see with chemical instrumentation. And so, you know, a simple blood samples can be very easily studied. And in order to even see the QTC humanoids, as Jordan said, you know, you would have to go and swipe your arm down the length of a, of a grocery store shelf and take all of the, the spice bottles home with you and, and, and swallowed them whole. And you know, once, once that became apparent and we realized as well with what are called in vitro studies, right in vitro studies are test tubes done that it is in fact the curcumin noise dead are the active part of the turmeric. And so there was a disconnect there. You know what is good in turmeric, but when you study the, the blood titers or the of curcumin annoyed in the blood of humans and laboratory animals, you don't see very much curcumin. And so we set out to come up with a formulation that was going to get those Kirk humanoids into the bloodstream. And for that you need things that will sigh of ally's it. There are a number of things that we'll do that for. For example, I believe that peppering in uh, in some old patenters basically, uh, ties up the century enzymes at the, at the, uh, the cell walls of your small intestine. But what we wanted to do was we wanted to get by that that century. We wanted to walk by it. And one of the things that has been why the use in the, uh, basically the drug industry is thing that's called my cell technology. And it's basically my self sounds like exactly what it sounds like. It's a uh, it's a cell like structure. In other words, it's got uh, uh, uh, a spear made up of compounds that is poor on one end and non polar on the other and the non polar part faces inward and holds the curcuminoids which are very, very fat soluble in the middle. And then the poor materials on the outside and it looks for all intents and purposes, like a tiny cell. And once we started to experiment with those, we realize that the blood titers began to really shoot up. And no, this takes a scientific lab and people working very hard looking at it. And looking and knowing the chemistry of it and following the chemistry of it and looking for results. And so the, the end result is blood titer, how much curcumin is in the blood. And then once it's in the blood, it can be in various parts of the body as well.
Speaker 2:Okay. And then you guys developed that process, you patented that process. So you're kind of the only game in town for this, right?
Speaker 3:Correct.
Speaker 2:Amazing. And then you did the clinical studies. Let's talk about those.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there are, there are two clinical studies. Do you know the first and the most important one obviously is, is looking at blood titer. And I think, uh, I think the number on the number of people in that, where I think 30, right? Andy n equals 30. So you got 30 people in that. And so you have a control group of 30, and then you've got 30 people that you're giving the, uh, you're, you're giving this to, excuse me. And what you do then is you just look at the blood titers and you know, you, you basically every, every, uh, I think every hour on the hour look at the blood titer over a 24 hour period. And you see a massive spike at about three and a half hours of curcumin. But not only, not only is there a massive spike, but it also tails off very slowly. That's the other thing that was kind of amazing about this. In other words, the stuff stays in the system for quite a while. Most products that get into the blood, even drugs don't stay in there that long, but this does stays in it. It hangs in the blood for that long. And so, you know, it's going to, if it's in the bloodstream, it can get to the organs they target organs that you're looking at. And so that's the first clinical study. The next clinical study was on a literally on p osteoarthritis. And basically this study used a, uh, uh, you know, I hate to throw acronyms out there. It used the scientific method where you could talk to people and with a questionnaire with a very carefully, very carefully designed questionnaire, you can measure the amount of pain they had. And I think the Ana on that, and I think the n on that, when I say, and I'm sorry I'm talking like a scientist, the number of people that you use on that is about 60 so you got 60 controls and then 60 60 applicants and and basically what you're, what you're doing is, is you don't, you don't know whether or not you're taking curcumin or I'm sorry if you're taking curriculum or if you're taking a placebo. Okay, so you've got 120 people and they're all taking stuff and then you, you sit down with people with this questionnaire over a period of time and you measure the amount of pain and pain relief that there is in these people's joints over this period of time. And the people at the end of the study, there was a group of people that stuck out like a sore thumb. These people saw an incredible amount of relief in their bone and joint pain compared to the other group. And, and, and increase in flexibility. And the, the, the, this questionnaire is, is very, very detailed and very, you know, very, very, uh, uh, thorough. And once you, once you, the, the mask is removed. Once you figure once take a and you reveal who got the curricular life and who didn't get the curricular life. Okay. And that's the, that's the whole idea behind a double blind placebo controlled clinical study. Only the people that got the curriculum life benefited, right? The people that didn't get curricular life, it's, it's almost, it's almost struck, it almost seems like cruelty, right? Basically over a period of days they, they, they suffered, they continued to suffer while the people that got life saw almost a complete remission of their bone and joint pain and an increase in their flexibility. But see, the other thing is, the other thing is, is that there are a huge number of clinical studies done by other people on Turmeric and curcuminoids and there, and they did all of these, these clinical studies, they've done all these critical studies. Like I said, they've, they fed people, you know, almost a quarter cup a day of turmeric or little spoons a day or per humanoids. And they get at these people get benefits out of it. Well, if they're getting benefits out of it and we can prove that we get 45 times as much tricker humanoid into the blood stream, then we can claim credit for those clinical studies as well. Does, does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. And so you use a very powerful term a minute ago, I think you used the word remission of pain. Did you literally have some of those, those people who started out in pain literally have, you know, get down to zero pain? I mean, what, how did this work out for most people?
Speaker 3:Yeah. No, I mean, if people on the study is that as I understand it, basically, I mean there were, I think there was about the average, the average pain, um, decrease was 95%. Yeah. At the end of the study.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. And over, how did that kick in and give us like a, did you say 90 days? Was it a 90 day study?
Speaker 3:I believe, yeah, I believe so. You know, I'm sorry, but my memory's not that great and big in numbers, but yeah, I believe it was 90 days.
Speaker 2:Okay. And does he all have to take a look? Okay. But, uh, whether, you know, 90, 60, whatever it was, you know, several weeks. Anyway, so do you have,
Speaker 3:sorry, go ahead. Go ahead.
Speaker 2:No, I was just gonna say, uh, how did it kind of work out? So for pain level, you know, 100 on day one, uh, how quickly did people start to notice the improvement?
Speaker 3:Um, we, as of day seven, we can claim, um, decrease in pain. No, that was, or what it was day seven. That's right.
Speaker 2:At Day seven and the just study was 60 days, 60 days study and seven days in other others. What we're saying for people listening, if you have joint pain, what we're saying here is while there's no guarantee and not everything works on everybody, so I'm, I'm Kinda like Tony, I like to undersell things, right? I, I'd hate to have a customer be so excited that they thought this was like their magic bullet. But the study is showing that for most people that seven days later you have a decrease in pain. Well, why would you not do that? Right? So that is pretty incredible after seven days. Yeah. A reduction in pain and then after the, at the end of the study, uh, even more significant. So the pain level went down throughout the study, is that right?
Speaker 3:Yes. Correct.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay. That's outstanding. And so, and so who is this for you? Um, you know, who, who are the people out there suffering with conditions that could be helped by curfew life? Um, give, uh, give us kind of the punch list of, of the biggest demographics you see out there.
Speaker 3:The biggest would be people that suffer with joint pains, but curriculum helps with any sort of inflammation, which honestly almost everyone has some sort of inflammation in their body. There's something that's inflamed. I take it every day. Um, I mean, you know, obviously, you know, a lot of people like it. Um, uh, you know, um, senior senior citizens, the elderly, uh, you know, they, they obviously are, are most effected by joint pain. Uh, how, oh, I think this is, this is a, a general health product I believe. Um, you know, in other words, uh, you know, again, I go back to the history of turmeric and the fact that there are huge populations of people that consume vast quantities of turmeric and those populations benefit from the consumption of the turmeric. A, this is a way for people to consume and get the benefits of turmeric without having to have, um, a diet based on turmeric. And so, you know, the, you know, the, the improvement and a bone and joint health. And then flexibility is one thing. There's a number of people that have a problem with that. And then, um, the thing is, is there had been that the interesting thing is, is that once the curcumin Lloyd's get in there, get into the bloodstream and they go to certain places, you know, for example, we've got some in Vivo Studies, which is, uh, the studies done on animals that show that a good bit of our turmeric, right? Or are our curriculum actually gets into the brains of laboratory animals. And we can actually see our curcumin noise in the brains of these laboratory animals. And that, that this affects in, in these laboratory animals, it actually affects laboratory animal models that mimic things like, um, all timers disease. Okay. And so in other words, your folks that are taking them there, one benefit is that their joints are going to be better, but it may also help with their cognitive abilities. And so while you're taking this and your joints are getting better and you're taking this on a regular basis, you're, it could be that your cognitive ability is also going to improve along with your liver. And then, and then the other thing is, is that the liver, the liver function, uh, tends to go up in the laboratory animals that we studied. So, you know, as we give, uh, the curricular life, uh, liver function improves in these laboratory animals and improve liver function means that, uh, the ability to remove let's say, um, uh, I would, uh, what's the best way to put it? I guess environmental pollutants. Okay. In other words, everybody's worried about environmental pollutants. Your liver is 100% responsible for removing environmental pollutants. And so if your liver function is increased, that means that the environmental pollutants that are getting into your body are going to be more quickly eliminated.
Speaker 2:Wow. That's powerful stuff.
Speaker 3:I hope not. I hope I'm not talking too much. Well,
Speaker 2:you're saying is, is awesome. And so, you know, it doesn't matter to me whether, you know, Jordan says it or you say it. Um, either way, the information is what we're most interested in and I'm very excited about this. We have formulated a product, Mimi's miracle turmeric. It's for sale at[inaudible] dot com. It's also in our store on Amazon for those who prefer to shop on Amazon, although you don't get reward points some to at least check out our site first. Doug will be.com, but I am really excited to bring this product to the market. It's so solid. Um, the, the research you guys have done, the work you've done to bring this to the market is just outstanding. Um, one other, one other point. Speaking of the benefits here, a few years ago, uh, you know, I'm, I'm 51 years old. I, I've started develop some joint pain over the last few years and I was being treated for problems in my hip and knee a few years ago. And my physical therapist at that told me that I ought to just take 1500 milligrams of glucosomine conjoined into every single day and that there've been tons of clinical studies on glucosamine control button and that I would feel better if I took it. I buy an inexpensive brand from Costco and it works just fine for me. I'm, I'm sure you guys might argue and tell me that I could do a lot better when the probably a higher quality product, but regardless, that's just what I started with and it was inexpensive and, and it, and it did work. And as a matter of fact, you know how in the supplement world, I'm sure we all do this, right? We get on a supplement, we're excited about it, but we forget to reorder where we, we run, we run out and sometimes we run out of something that was really doing us good. And one thing about glucosomine can Jordan, if I ran out, I knew it two weeks later because of the way my joints felt. And so I was like, I, I, my body would tell me, hey, you need to get back on the glucosomine Codrington so I would start taking it again and I try to not run out because it helps you that much. Now talk to us about glucosamine Chondroitin in relationship to Mimi's miracle turmeric with their curricular life. Um, should I continue to take the argument? Could draw it in?
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. No, this is not a replacement for glucose and the experience that you've had. I can tell you I've had this, I've had that experience, not myself, but I used to work for another vitamin company before be inheritors creation and I used to get a lot of freebies and one of the freebies that I used to get was the glucosomine conjoined net we used to make for Costco of all people. Okay. And so I used to make Costco's Co glucose, me can droid. And I used to give it to all my friends and relatives and all my friends or relatives would take this stuff. And within about two months they would call me up and they'd say, Tony, I feel great. And then for some odd ball reason, they'd get lazy and they'd stop taking it for about a month. And then in about a month they couldn't get out of bed. And they'd call me up and they said, Tony, what's the matter? I said, start taking your glucosomine can droid and glucosamine and Chondroitin. Okay. Are the bricks of your house. Okay? Your House is made out of bricks. Okay. The one the curricular life does the curriculum life is the guy that puts the bricks, they're okay. Or let me put it this way, the curricula life is the thing that tells the guy to put the bricks there. So your glucosomine can is the building block of your joints, but it's the curriculum that tells your body to put the Glucose Munich control button into your joints so that your joints are lubricated and while built. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So the two work really well together.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I guess, you know, I guess the other thing I would say is probably a vitaminK would be the last thing.
Speaker 2:Probably probably.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 2:When you say vitamin K. Dot. Vitamin K one, vitamin K two. There's tons of great research coming out about both those were putting them both in our new product and Amy's Merkel multi, which is also coming on the market soon. So That's interesting you bring that up because we did a lot of research as we formulated Mimi's miracle multi on exactly what minerals, minerals, vitamins the body actually needed and um, what their was really good clinicals on. Cause most multivitamins are just not that effective. As a matter of fact, there's a ton of paradoxical research that multivitamins aren't effective, but taking the right vitamins at the right amount is very effective. And what I hear you saying now is it k the k vitamins fall into that realm. And so first of all, can you talk to us about k one and k two and then how do they, how do they help in this whole process?
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Again, K is k is responsible for where calcium goes. And I can't imagine that you can have healthy bones or joints without calcium. And so without Kay, your body doesn't know to put calcium into your bones. The calcium stays in your blood. When the calcium in your blood it, it causes a arterial damage. So you need k in order to, uh, keep a healthy arteries. And then you need k to tell the body to put the calcium in the bones where it belongs. So that's, that's kind of the triad there. So you've got curcumin, curcumin, noise that are telling the body to go ahead and, uh, grow the, the, the joint ends and, and, and get the joint ends to, to put the Glucose and conjoint Warren needs to go. And then you've got vitamin K two tell the body where to put calcium. I think most people get plenty of calcium in their diet. There's so much calcium, I guess, you know, calcium supplements or are nice, I guess. But holy smokes, I mean, there's calcium in everything. I mean, there's calcium in and bread flour, there's calcium in. I mean, I'm waiting for them to put calcium in salads. I don't know. That's why, I mean there's calcium and everything. So, you know, calcium supplements are great, you know, people should take them, but you know, it's, you know what we're talking about here for curriculum specifically, right. And, uh, is, you know, we're talking about specifically turning on the mechanisms. They're going to cause your body to improve your joints and that's what that is. And then vitaminK is going to tell your body where the calcium goes to improve, improve your b ull b ones because you c an't have good joints without good bones. Sort of makes sense. Right,
Speaker 2:absolutely. As a matter of fact, in our research for Mimi's miracle multi vitaminK we found a large and l ongterm study out of Europe on children with vitaminK and those that supplemented with the vitaminK actually had less fractures over time. And so I thought that was fascinating, but uh, y o u know, those, those children would have less broken bones and it just backs up exactly what you said about supporting the bone. So that's awesome information. Interesting how it's synergistic with those other things. Is there anything else you want to add about the benefits of, of this product? Like said, for us it's a super exciting because we, u m, I honestly think that Mimi's miracle tur meric wi l l be th e best product on, on the Amazon platform. I, I'v e, I've researched this a lot. I've looked through all the products. Honestly, every product on the front page of Amazon looks like it's almost exactly the same thing. There's very little differentiation. I couldn't find one single mention of any clinical studies, whether on animals or humans. And so this just seems to be head and shoulders better than everything out there. And, a nd fr o m wh at you r gu ys are saying, you r st udies, u m, ba ck that up, as a matter of fact, you compared your product to other leading products. What did you find when you did that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, in comparison to them as far as, as far as, um, bioavailability or 10 times better than our closest county. Yeah. We did a test where they tested different patients' bloods, the, their blood after they were supplemented with our product. And then I think, I believe five other, the leader leader leading, uh, tr turmeric extracts or Kirk humanoid extracts. Yeah. Yeah. And then to see how many, how much curcuminoid molecules actually made it into the bloodstream. And since it's a podcast, you can't really see a visual. That's the best way to see it, to see the, where Kirky life has spiked up and a hundred percent of the curcuminoids get into the bloodstream and the other products are there at the bottom of the barely getting a milligram or two in. Yeah. Our competitors. I mean you basically, you eliminate our competitors, you eat our competitor's product and you're basically eliminating, you just, you're, all you're doing is, is just, it's just passing straight through you. Our stuff is, is, is making our stuff is making it into, into your bloodstream. And then, and then even, I'll tell ya, even I was surprised by this, the, you know, we've got that, that animal study where I mentioned earlier where you can actually see our curcuminoids in the animal's brain. The blood brain barrier is a very hard thing to get by. That is that, that is the whole sale in drug design and the fact that our truck humanoids are making it into the brains of these laboratory animals. And there's a lot of research with Kirk humanoids and the, and the things that affect cognitive health. Okay. And in, in the literature, um, is really amazing. So this, our product, our curricular life, you know, we're, we tend to be very conservative here at Earth creation and that's why we're, you know, we're pitching those three things and nothing else. But you know, it may be that in the future that people start seeing other health benefits that we're, we're not mentioning here. I don't know one person I would not recommend[inaudible] to that's going to benefit you in some way.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And would you say it for younger, old, and what are the age groups here? What's the youngest person you'd recommend take this product? My youngest age,
Speaker 3:I've started a, I started at a young adult, probably a young adult.
Speaker 2:Okay. 16. 18.
Speaker 3:Yeah. 18, 18 and up.
Speaker 2:18 and up. Okay. Very good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm the, I'm never, I'm not much, I'm not much for supplementation of chore and except for the Very Pew, you know, like you said, well, you know, vitaminK is a perfect example. Right. But you know, for a supplement supplementation t o s houlder, I'm very uncautious. O kay. Children, pregnant women. Right. Supplementation is a very sensitive, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, so not for pregnant or pregnant or nursing, I assume.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I mean that's, yeah, that's always under no go. Okay. That's what I, that I don't think there's a single diet. I guess the, you know, I, you know, things like, what's that? Right. I mean, we know that. I knew the lady I met the lady that did this study on pulled guest Mary Bailey, she's at the University of porn when I was there. She's the one that did the, she did the study that showed that we should be supplementing folic acid to 400 micrograms a day and a cuff spinal bifida down by 91% they stopped the study halfway through because it was cruel to people. So you got it. No, I mean it virtually eliminated spinal bifida worldwide. Wow. Just by supplementing that one vitamin. Yeah. Oh, sorry.
Speaker 2:No, a nice little aside. Is there anything else you guys want to add? This has been phenomenal. You've given us a ton of information. I would think people listening to this feel very educated on the subject and it, and yet, is there anything else you'd like to add?
Speaker 3:I did a horrible job. I did a horrible job. I can't, I, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm old and I haven't, I haven't taken my percolate yet. And by my memory is
Speaker 2:know, you know,
Speaker 3:uh, yeah, I think, you know what I mean, the thing is, is I'm, I'm glad that you, you're taking a very serious look at this. I think people in the dietary supplement industry needs to stop. I was saying and, and start delivering. And so I think that you've taken the right tack on this and told people what to do. In other words, to look at this stuff as something that's going to help them with the bone and joint health. And then I think your attack on some of the other things is, is just as good. And so this, I think along with, uh, you know, things like Codrington, glucosomine, vitaminK, um, are all going to help people with a bone and joint health and, and overall health.
Speaker 2:Excellent. Well, thank you. So thank you so much for being here. This has been phenomenal. You may feel like you didn't do a good job, but trust me. Yeah, you're, you're a PHD scientist and so you've got all this information that uh, you know, you live it, eat it, breathe it to us, you know, regular people out here just trying to be healthy. This has been outstanding. And you've covered this subject extremely well, Jordan. Um, is there anything that you think we've missed or anything else we could add from your perspective? Uh, to the subject?
Speaker 5:Yeah,
Speaker 3:not really. A toadie covered it pretty good.
Speaker 2:Well, excellent. And for those of you, again that are listening, you can find this product in Mimi's miracle, turmeric on Amazon or at[inaudible] Dot Com Tony Jordan, thank you so much for taking the time and being with us on the dire Robbie health show.
Speaker 3:Of course. Thank you David.
Speaker 2:Thank you. And all of you listening. This is Dave, sir. When signing off and wishing you health and success
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