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Inner Light
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Grief can knock the air out of your life, then leave you wondering who you are without the person you lost and what you even believe now. We sit down with Beth Lynch, an evidential medium, meditation teacher, author, and founder of Inner Light Teaching, to talk about what helps when the mind is loud, the heart is tender, and you still need a way to keep going.
We get practical about spirituality and mental wellness, starting with Beth’s definition of spirituality as your intuitive nature, creativity, emotional coping, connection, and compassion. From there, we dig into meditation for anxiety in a way that finally makes sense for “busy mind” people: meditation as mediation between your thoughts and emotional responses, built through short daily practice, breathwork, and mindful moments in nature. Beth also explains chakras in a grounded way, linking them to the nervous system and the stress response, and shares why five minutes a day can change how your whole system handles overwhelm.
Then we go into grief and loss, signs from loved ones, and how spirit communication often comes through simple symbols, dreams, and deeply personal memories. If you’ve ever questioned whether you’re imagining things, we talk about how intuition feels in the body, how to separate it from overthinking, and how to invite connection without forcing it.
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Welcome and What Inner Light Means
SPEAKER_00Today on Broglie 24-7, I'm welcoming someone who invites us to slow down, listen inward, and become more connected to the wisdom that is already within us. Is the founder of interlight teaching, a medium, a meditation teacher, and an author who helps people give in their connection to themselves, their intuition, and their anxiety part of their experience. Today we're going to talk about something that touches every one of us at some point in our lives. It can leave us searching for answers, questioning what we believe, and trying to find a way to move forward caring the love and the memories of someone or something we've lost. For exploring connection, intuition, healing, and what it means to find peace when life has changed in ways we never expected. Here in Morongo 24-7, we talk about reclaiming our voices and learning silence and honoring the experiences that have shaped us. And sometimes healing begins by becoming quiet enough to listen to ourselves, to our intuition, and perhaps the connections we still carry. So today we're going to eat into intuition, meditation, spirituality, loss of degree, healing and what it means to reconnect with your own inner light. Let's welcome Beth Lynch. Hi, I am your host, Leonette Talley, and you are listening to Virago 24-7. Virago is Latin for female warrior, and 24-7 is for all day, every day. Virago 24-7 is a weekly podcast that brings diverse women together to talk about life and our experiences in this world. We share our views on self-love, mental health, marriage, children, friendships, and really anything that needs to be talked about. Here you will find everyday growth, everyday healing with everyday warriors. Today we have Beth Lynch. When I was researching you, I was like, oh my gosh, this is going to be a fascinating conversation. So you are an uh evidential medium, which I had to Google what that was. I mean, everyone knows what a medium is, but the evidential, you're a meditation teacher. You're also an author. I saw that you've written Life, Death, and In Between. Heal Thyself is one of them, and Heart and Soul Fitness for Seekers of Self, Spirit, and Success. And those are just to name a few. You have a quite quite a few more. And then you're also the founder of Inner Light Teaching. Yes. So welcome. Let's go. Thank you for having me. I'm excited. Yes, Beth. So let's start from the very beginning. I do this with everyone, but you definitely have a beginning of when you were smaller and little and your gifts were, you know, coming to the surface. Let's start from the beginning on how you came to be where you are today.
Early Sensitivity and Sudden Loss
SPEAKER_03So yeah, living the younger, maybe over-emotional, felt things a little, I think, deeper than a lot of people. I think everybody feels. But and always why? I always would wonder why do I have to feel it that way? Why do I see those things? Why? You know, and a lot of that was inner dialogue to whoever was listening. I believe it was God. And then when the when I was in my 20s, my dad passed away. And that whole week before, I was feeling death around me. And I thought, are they telling me I'm gonna die? I mean, I really was feeling quest questioning why I would feel death. What does death even feel like? You know, at that point I had all my grandparents, my parents, my sister was still living too, and she still is. And um, and then my dad passed that week. And so then it kind of just kind of got washed under the rug as just one of my okay, one of those weird things baskets goes through. And then three years later, my I was dreaming that I was listening to an intercom. Like in the dream, there was gray walls, people going back and forth. And then in the intercom, it said that my mother was dead. And I went in the dream, I started crying and freaking out, you know, like, uh, why, what, what, you know? And I woke up and I saw the clock was 3:15 a.m. I went back to sleep somehow, and woke up in the morning and on the news, the Amtrak train had crashed in the middle of the night, and she was traveling on a train, which I did know. I didn't affiliate that with a dream, but you know, you're disoriented in the middle of the night, and you know, so then I, you know, got up, went through the emotions, uh, called my sister, was heading over to her house, and I heard my mom's voice tell me she was all right, she was happy. And I went, like, what uh why would I hear that? And I knew immediately. So, you know, you go through the physical world, red tape, and you know, I'm angry. I'm going through a lot of good, the real grief both of us were. And about a year later, someone said, Why don't you go to this medium? And so me and my sister went, and she looked right at me and said, Your mother is saying you're gonna do what I do someday, and you're not using your gifts and abilities, and you're gonna help a lot of people. And I'm going, bitch is crazy. Wow. In my head. Sorry, but bold disclosure. And, you know, kind of it, you know, in a nutshell. And then other things came in, and it was clearly our mother was in the room. And so we, you know, a week later I was looking at um in a crystal shop books, crystals, incense, all that stuff, all that stuff, you know, spiritual stuff. And I don't think a lot of people understand what the word spiritual means. And I do like to tap into that because I know what I have learned, and you know, we can get to that. But basically, then I started learning, I was very drawn to a tarot teacher's private classes. So I I signed up and I went to her home. And one of the first, the the first thing she said to me was, I bet you didn't know tarot was a spiritual tool. And I said, No, I kind of like, but I was drawn to it, you know, and she said, No, dear, it's all how you read it. I'll guide you. And I mentored with her for two years. And wow, she I did not know I was opening that ability to see more, to feel, to get balance in the feeling by raising your vibration through these tools that, you know, some people love tarot, some people think it's it's not bad. It's a stimulator of the divine eye. You know, you get into the soul language through through symbolisms and numerology on there and everything. So that was just little did I know, just opening me more. And but yet still creating the boundary where I wasn't just wide open, which was I did not understand that at the time, but I do now. And then one day I was just reading this lady's cards. You know, I was still doing hair at the time. I was a hairdresser for you know, 20 something years. And one day, this little peripheral vision, trust your peripheral vision, everybody. The little thing was coming closer, and he said, Tather, David's here. And I go, David's here, and she screamed and I jumped. She goes, I didn't, that's my dead brother. I didn't know you did that. I go, I didn't either. Wow. I went home that night and I just surrendered. I said, Okay, God, I've been told I'm feeling what I'm feeling about things. I feel more at peace with these natural knowings. And the rest is history. 30 years, 33 years now, something like that.
SPEAKER_00Wow. That's a that's a that's
Opening Mediumship Through Tarot Practice
SPEAKER_00amazing. I always wonder about those gifts that God gives us because I feel like, did you ever like push against it? Like, nope, oh yes.
SPEAKER_03Oh, we're all suppressed away in the teens. I mean, I didn't want to feel overly emotional. What is what is, you know, when we're experimenting and you know, whatever we're doing in that age group and that that time, where, you know, you're suppressing a lot of things you don't want to feel. Little do you know. So yeah, I just didn't want to feel it. But I I was I had a very natural connection with God, with Jesus. Like I had that from my Catholic upbringing. And so I really love that I had that foundation. Yeah, I always felt more Buddhist because I was very drawn to Buddhist principles, even though I didn't practice it very as strict. I still tapped into that a little more naturally. So I went through the confusion of what's right, what's wrong. And then the minute that lifts and you really see it's all one, and how you want to go down that path, it's totally up to you. And, you know, we can still see as a species, you know, there's there's, you know, people can be diverse, and then, you know, we're still at war over this, which is heartbreaking because it's very intense. Spiritual war is is on.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. My husband and I talk about that all the time.
SPEAKER_03Spiritual it's everything missing in our world, right down to the political systems, to the war, to the religious systems, to even even transgender, which I find fascinating because the soul knows no gender. So to me, there's somewhere in there maybe a little conflict of what level of the soul expression they're in, when you can be both, you know, and yet some people want to go the full on and change, and that's fine. I don't care. Do what you want, but it really comes down to spiritual, I think, uh balancing. I don't want to say confusion because you know, I don't want to get anybody confused, but it really or you know, upset, but spiritual uh evolution. Yeah, that's a good word.
SPEAKER_00Let's talk, let's talk about spirituality. So you were saying that what what's your definition? Because I love to dig deep into that because I'm still trying to figure things out within me. Oh, well, this you're gonna love.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So, you know, I do so much reflection in my life, and I remember when I was really surrendering to be, you know, do mediumship, help people. I needed to have an understanding of that word too, and of spiritual. It is spiritual. I understand it. And where what I came down to be very comfortable with is in our spiritual nature, so we have the spiritual nature and the human nature, right? And in the spiritual nature, this is where intuition will flow through. Now, intuition is definitely our connected to source to the divine, but it's also a survival mechanism on the earth. It is truly a survival mechanism. And anyone who knows the word intuition knows. If you didn't follow it, you got the little slap in the face to show you you should have followed it, right? Definitely. And so your spiritual nature or your spiritual, spiritual is your intuitive nature, your creative nature, which is how you're gonna express yourself, how and some how you're gonna create abundance and survive on a planet. Anything creative we should be doing. I don't care if you're flipping a burger or a McDonald's, you need to be creative about it. You know what I mean? Take pride in it, and all that flows through the creative nature. So you have intuitiveness, creativity, how we cope emotionally. Look at our personalities will roll in the mud and sink in the quicksand if we let them. What do we pull on for strength? The spirit. But we got to hit our own spirit before we start putting all them in responsible for our emotional responses, right? So you have your emotional coping skills, you have your connectedness, feeling, you know, watching the news and just knowing you got to pray for an area that went under, you know, weather conditions or war-torn stuff. We pray, we pray for friends, we pray for, you know, people or send high-intention thoughts, good thoughts. That's the connectedness. And it's also the um, what's the other thing I like to say about it? So it's the creativity, the intuition, your connectedness, your coping skills, and your uh there's one more I kind of throw in there, but all that runs through your spiritual energy, downloading vibrationally into your personality that if it's using those components, it will be a very uh human living above and beyond human potential, but more in a spiritual potential, you know, and it and it's a vibration, it's energy, vibration, frequency. Thank you, Mr. Tesla. I mean, why isn't that taught in high school at least? Because when I read that quote, well in my 30s, if not 40s, early 40s, I was I cried and I did not know why. But the minute I went into it and started thinking, well, everything's energy. Our thoughts are in, you know, I knew that I'd have gotten that part down already. You know what I mean? Wow, no wonder it made me emotional. Because it's you can ask why about anything. You put that formula in your answers there. It's D equals M squared two, whatever I decide. It is that I was not academically, I was academically challenged. And you know why? Because every person in their strongest intuitive nature is usually ADD. So stop making that an issue and stop making it a problem.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I need to tell my daughter that you you need. How old is she? She's 25. Oh, I had her at 21.
SPEAKER_03So she just bless you. Yeah. Um, yeah, because that generation, even the 30-somethings, they are brainwashed into that. ADD means you're highly intuitive, you're highly sensitized to the vibrations around you. And the only and the one and only thing that will balance that so easily is meditation. And you do you listen to my meditations and look out. And I don't care. I toot my horn on that because I know where I take people into the inner light. This is not somewhere you got to go outside of yourself. You go to this light, let the frequencies align, magic happens. And I've practiced it. And I used to be able to, I would read something 10 times and not get it. I struggled in school. I'm 67. They did tomorrow. And I could not read anything and without struggling. And I remember when I started learning more about meditation and really just doing it a little bit, even though I would say I'm not doing it, can I? I don't know. But I was doing practicing, and all of a sudden I remember reading something one day and going, Oh my God, I didn't have to read it 10 times. Oh my God, it's got to be the meditation. Then you do a little homework in your mind, and it's like, wow, I'm I'm slowing down. So I'm absorbing and I'm reading this more from my higher frequency than I am. I gotta memorize this and speak it tomorrow. No, nobody wants to do that unless you have that kind of mind.
SPEAKER_00But I don't. I okay, so I want to talk about meditation, but before I have one question about spirituality. Do you think that you can be spiritual and not believe in like God or higher being or I think I call him God, but so it's Yeah, I call it God.
SPEAKER_03I call him God. Well, you know, it's funny what you just said when we because we do reference God as He, right? But when my son was three years old and he's now 27, he said to me, I said something about we were doing prayer time, and I said, you know, if you ever feel mommy and daddy don't get it, or maybe we're not around to have that conversation, you can ask God, he will always be there. And he went, three years old now, and this is exactly what he did. Mommy, God's not a he. And I went, He's well, what is God? And I knew I had my source energy, whatever. He went, God's a feeling, mommy. Oh, wow. Okay, I like that. I went, amen. I hope he remembers that at 16.
SPEAKER_00That's almost no, that's beautiful.
SPEAKER_03And you know, and I just said, That's right, honey. That's right. And so such a beautiful, you know, from the mouths of babes. But so I think that people can be, you know, when you look at the science of this a little more, they can resonate more in high frequency, they can understand that vibrational, da da da. And yeah, I think you can live, you may not call it God. Like I went to a meditation course one weekend way back in the in the 90s. And I remember I always meditated more spiritually, more in a prayer form because that's that's how I grew up. And it was I was comfortable with that. So I didn't need to change it, but I wanted to understand more. And I remember I went to the, I think it was the Silva program and it was a weekend course. And I remember sitting there going, they're just not saying God. It's the same thing. They're just saying source or yeah. And I went, wow, this is pretty interesting to me. And I'm like, so I think that's how I would answer that. Yeah, I think they can.
SPEAKER_00Well, because I've I've been around many spiritual people, like people that believe religiously, believe in God, um, but also people that say that they're atheists, but they're spiritual. And I'm like, I don't know, I've always wondered if those can kind of come together if you don't believe that.
SPEAKER_03I think it's more believing in a source or or the frequency of things, and they, you know, they are a spirit. Our spirit is just the invisible, you know, what's the aura? It's the energy field that, you know, when you think of spiritual art and you can't and they capture the halos, old spiritual art, what do you think they were seeing? They were seeing the energy field. That's what the gold light is. I mean, I remember one day looking, I had a whole wall of spiritual art in my other home. And I remember looking at it going, they're seeing the aura. They're painting the auras. Oh my God. You know, and I remember going, how cool. I mean, because back then they didn't have anything in the way of that vision. Yeah, like yeah, the strategy. I thought it was such a cool, you know, revelation. I don't know if that's the word, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
Defining Spirituality as Human Nature
SPEAKER_00So let's go to meditation because I discovered, okay, I've always been the kind of person that says, I can't meditate, I can't meditate, my my brain wanders, my brain wanders. So I went to this retreat with a friend up in Arizona, and this was maybe like four years ago. And she pretty much forced me to go at seven o'clock in the morning to one of the meditation classes. And I'm like, first of all, I don't meditate. And second of all, I don't want to wake up early. I'm on vacation, but I went anyways. We got up, we went. It was the most powerful experience. And like, I don't know if it depends on the person that's like guiding you, but she pulled stuff out of me that were just it was buried way down. And I can't, I can't say that I do it a lot, but I've I've I try. So, what does meditation do for you? And how can I, because I feel like I'm like on the baby stages of it, of like getting a little bit more in tune with that. And and I can probably do maybe 10-15 minutes at a time. It fascinates me that people can do it for hours. So guide me through this, please.
SPEAKER_03Well, I don't know how they do it for hours, to be honest with you, but I have a complete respect for it. And I'm a mind wanderer. But well, first of all, if you go to my website and you put your email address in, I mean, obviously, I can do that for you. I can't do it for your whole audience. And you'll get seven free meditations immediately. Very easy download, click an arrow, and they tell you what they are, how long they are, and their intention. And what I do, like when I do meditation, because I take more of a spiritual approach, first of all, break the word down mediation. It's mediation between your thought process and perspective and your emotions and your emotional responses, right? So you look at that formula. All I'm gonna do is go in and mediate. I'm gonna observe my thoughts. I'm gonna say, that's okay. Keep going. You know, I mean, you can do so many things with the busy mind. So when I got when I started doing it, it was very natural to go into the light of the heart. And there's experiences in the in your energy of your heart chakra, divine heart, divine light, that you can't try to go have. They will just happen. And you gotta just give yourself that five, 10 minutes a day. I tell people you can listen to, and I have one on there, five minutes. I did it between my last client and this because I was channeling, and and then I said, Oh, let me just lay and do my five. I listen to myself. I don't know. I guide so simple that I don't complicate it. Now, there are meditations for release. There are some meditations, you know, there's all different kinds, there's kinds, but mine will always be inner light, and it will always be about slowing your breath. And when you get in there and you just practice this every day, even your practice counts. That's the beautiful thing about meditating. Your practice counts, your intention is set. So, you know, I've worked in, I worked in the high school and I did, I had I facilitated a meditation room in the high school for like four years, I think it was, all while my son was in high school. The poor kid couldn't get away with anything. And um, and uh, and I'll never forget how the kids would come in. And once they did, and sometimes they were forced to come in because they weren't doing the right thing in the classroom, and they would always leave with in awe. Like Mrs. Lynch, I never can stop thinking, or Mrs. Lynch, I get anxiety for tests and then I fail. I go, Oh, I remember doing that all the time. Barely got out of high school, but don't tell anybody. And uh and you know, or no, don't tell your teachers that maybe is what I thought I said. But when you when you experience that with kids, you know, it's just so humbling. And I'll never forget this one kid. He was six foot easy. And he was one of the football players. And he came in and he was mad. You could feel his energy. I didn't want him to get past my chair with that energy because the rest of the room was kind of already in the zone with the music and you know, closed their eyes and doing their breathing. So I told him you know. And he he did it. And then I watched his body language. First he was in, then he slid down. Then he was like, So in 15 minutes, the kid was good, good. The bell rings. He stands in front of me and I'm looking up at him, right? And he's so tall. And he goes, Mrs. Lynch, where'd my anger go? No way. And I went. Oh, I go, perfect. And I go, when you breathe, and I gave him a little crash course. You know, when you breathe and you go into an intention to be, he goes, I was so mad when I came in here. The teacher sent me down to this room and I didn't want to be in here. I go, I know I can feel you. And he goes, but he came back the next day with like five football players. Like that always in that room. You know what I mean? And the thing is, you watch these transformations because in that intention, in the slow breathing, what sends the signal into the nervous system, in the connection of your divine energy, your light, your source, your spirit, the magic will happen. And busy thoughts are fine. I, you know, I when I my meditations will always be that what that's in the beginning, like something you can do. I like that Lucy old ball, the conveyor belt. Sometimes I'll tell them, put put them on the conveyor belt, put those thoughts on the conveyor belt. People love that one. And they'll laugh. I go, Yeah, because when you laugh, you lift your frequency and that supports you. So so meditation is a gift. I think we do it when we walk. Sometimes it depends if you, unless you're walking with a friend and yappy, yappy, yappy, right? But I always say I do it. I have a walking meditation now on that list. You can sit in a chair and do it virtually, or you can do it while you physically walk. I tell people I work with people who are getting surgeries and they're not able to do their hiking or they're walking and go do the walking meditation. Your energy field doesn't know the difference. So you're going to get the vibration that you need to support you until you can. Not to mention, in that frequency, your body gets a better healing opportunity.
SPEAKER_00I've never heard of walking meditation.
SPEAKER_03So you're just walking but still doing the same thing with the how it, you know, think about sometimes when you walk and you might have a good music, nice music on. And I don't care what it is. I walk to all different kinds, but and you just get in a zone, you know. And so one of my clients asked me a couple months ago, you know, I walk every morning. I can't listen to those deep relaxation ones when I walk. Could you do one for me? I said, Yeah, I'll whip something together. And I did, and I listened to it myself and went, wow. And it really is just about making you present while you walk. It's not going to be deep relaxation. So it's a good one to get energy if you're tired. And it's only 15 minutes. I like it. Everyone should do the walking meditation now. I I really am and I just record it, you know, amateur. It's not like no big, but it still works. So you suggest daily meditation. Absolutely. The five-minute one that I just did, you know, the five-minute breathing one. You can sit and have your coffee doing that, looking out the window or gazing at just sit and have your coffee. You don't have to go into no deep place. Okay. The deep places will come with the practice.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Because I think that's what people assume. That's what I assumed. I'm like, I'm not going deep. And this is like, and my brain is thinking. Okay.
SPEAKER_03So it's not a brain. And your brain, you know, your brain is an organ. And the be and I have a brain meditation. I don't think that's on the list, but I could always send it to you. And the brain meditation is where I actually take people in. Oh, it's in my healing course. That's where it is. And you relax the organ. Relax the organ, the sensors. That is one of my favorite. Because it's your mind that you're really working with. It's just like when people have dis-ease, I don't know. All the brain dis-ease. Okay. It the mind is fine. It's the brain and it's computing that's having the issue. So if we go in and we take care of the organ, right, we have a better chance of maybe not going down those roads of challenges up there. And yeah. Okay. And it really and it relaxes the organs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. I've I've grown to enjoy it. I but I don't do it daily. So maybe I need to start doing at least five minutes.
SPEAKER_03Or even if you do it every other day. But I can tell you, once you start doing it every other day, you'll be the you'll be like, why am I not? And you'll also see maybe you're gazing at a tree and you just automatically start breathing slowly. That counts. I call those the mindful moments. They count as meditative moments.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Is that okay then? Because I love nature. I sit on um, we have a deck that overlooks like a bunch of trees, and I love the ocean. So anytime I'm near water or trees, I do get into that zone. So okay. So you gotta do the tree meditation.
SPEAKER_03That's on that list. Oh, it is. And that was a true story. I was walking in a park that I walked in all the time. All right, so my son's 27, so it had to be well, five years before he was born, that I had the experience because when I was pregnant with him, I went through it as a child. So I wrote Donald's Journey to the Tree for Children, which can start at conception. But, anyways, yeah, and you'll like the tree meditation. It's really a real experience I had in the park. I felt to just touch the tree. You know, I was kind of coming through my own in tune of nature, and and I touched the tree, and it was just like I couldn't move. I was paralyzed and I was just crying. Like, somebody's gonna call the cops. I don't know. But I remember how emotional I was, and I went home and wrote about it, and it was a meditation. It became a meditation of all the the leaves changing the colors of the chakras and all that. So it's a beautiful, it's a longer one. You could even fall asleep to it, really. And that one's professionally recorded, so that has a nice clean, yeah. But I'll I'll make sure you get it because you just want to listen to it, you know, and just look at the trees and close your eyes. And even if you get five minutes through it, you still got five minutes through it. You got through a couple chakras. It's okay,
Meditation Basics That Actually Work
SPEAKER_03you know.
SPEAKER_00Let's talk about you keep saying chakras. What are what are chakras exactly?
SPEAKER_03I've heard the word so many times, but I don't really know what it comes from the Hindu, you know, the Hindu faith, or and it's represent it means wheels, all right, wheels of color, and they all resonate with color. And there's seven main ones, and they run along the spine. And so the third eye is the one that a lot of people know, and it's the color purple. Each one resonates to a frequency color, a color of frequency, whatever you want to say. That and then you got the heart, and then you got the core, the solar plexus, the lake, the navel is the sacral, and then there's the root, which is at the base of the spine, and then the crown, which is the connection to, you know, the I call the crown the door, the eye is the window, the the throat is how we communicate it, the heart is how we feel, the solar plexus is actually run by the mind, even though it's in the gut. So they're energy doorways. What control these energy doorways connect to the endocrine system and the nervous system.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_03Right? They run the body. And what runs the chakras, your perspective, your thought energy that is downloading emotional frequencies based on perspective and thoughts into your chakras, which then go out into the nervous system. So people who deal with anxiety, I always find interesting because I've learned through my experiences and downloads that the anxiety is actually the energy field trying to go up. You got your mind off of it finally. Boom, what happens? Anxiety attack, wrong word, but anxiety alignment, right? Or chakra alignment I call it chakra alignment. I have a healing that I do for that. And what you're feeling is the nervous system going, well, then the respiratory system because your thoughts are getting da-da-da. Now your whole day is ruined or your dinner's ruined because you got an anxiety attack.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Right? Well, what it when you understand, when you do even five minutes of meditation, my people that deal with anxiety say you do five minutes of meditation for two weeks, and you come back and tell me how much anxiety you've had, or that you were not able to can discipline it or be a disciple of that experience because you took control, where most of the time people who suffer with it feel they have no control over it. So uh, well, it does not help.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Never just stop, though. Let me make sure I said that.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03If anyone takes for it, if they're listening, never just stop. You have to have doctor supervision if you take medication for that. But you could still add meditation and start bouncing your frequency a little bit more. So if you meditate five minutes in the morning, that's that vibration is gonna be, you know, around you're gonna feel it throughout the day. You're you're it's a reminder, like take a breath, let me take a breath, let me relax my lower belly. You can even do it now. Take a breath and let your lower belly relax. What you're gonna become aware of in the first couple breaths is how tight your area was you were holding. It's natural. I was even a little tight just now. So you relax it and then you let a couple more breaths, and now you've let your your energy flow, and then your chakras are going ding ding ding ding.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, flow, flow, flow. No, that that's the truth. I can speak from experience. And yeah, with the panic attacks and a lot of anxiety, and I think I hit it really well because most people they look at me, they're like, Oh, you don't seem like someone, and I'm like, oh no, it's it's all in there. And so once I learned, you're gonna start saying it's in there now if you still do that. Oh no, no, that that was like back in the day. Like I feel like now I like you, I I resonate with you saying controlling it. Um if it even tries to seep in, like I do the breathing. So you're doing more than you realize. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess I don't put a name to it, but yes, yes, yes. I do do those things or sit with nature and to calm to calm
Chakras Anxiety and Nervous System
SPEAKER_00myself. Um let's go into intuition because I love to talk about intuition. I want to know what the difference is. Like, how do we know if it's intuition or if it's something like we're concocting in our in our brains?
SPEAKER_03I can tell you something. Intuition is the most calmest feeling. It's calm. You feel the difference. Up here, you're gonna be more questioning it into a little more hyper thoughts, more fast thoughts. But once you, and if you really are in the midst and you don't know, how do I know? I mean, that's why a lot of people call me, because they don't know, right? But I like to teach people how to trust their own. I think that's the greatest gift I give anyone that to know their loved ones are with them, to know that their own intuitive nature is there for them to support them through life, through the connection, whatever it's needed. So you when you the intuition to me is a calmer feeling, like you know, you know, and it really when you start to just tune into that, you start to feel the difference. And thought thought this one is faster usually, like you know, where intuition will calm you. Okay, there's a difference.
SPEAKER_00Because I feel like my intuition is a little bitchy sometimes. Because I feel like a lot of where I get my oh is people and their energy, and then I get these very like hardcore, like and I feel calm, but I'm like, man, that's bitchy. It's like feels judgmental sometimes. So I'm always wondering is that just me judging that person, or is my intuition telling me that that person isn't.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's a good question. I think just you know, maybe when you're experiencing it, take slow the breath a little bit more, maybe three breaths in, and you're gonna feel the difference because anything that brings a light fear or angst or something's not right, you know, something you're your the intuitive nature will start to calm you to know, yes, I gotta trust this. And you're able to separate from it. And you know, there is a lot of we're all feeling, we're all empathic. I mean, you know, intuition runs through our emotions, and empathy is our emotion. You know what I mean? We feel so I tell people when they say, I'm so empathic and I hate it. I'm like, Well, you just made it a burden. You're making it negative, and what's negative, you're gonna love this one, negative light. So add light. I love when I get people. My work partner is so negative. I say, Oh, they're negative light. What? They go, They're vibrations lower than yours. You should pat yourself on the back and maybe send them some light. Oh, I never thought of it that way. Well, yeah, because your intuitive nature, your higher spiritual nature will recognize that and support you in that. So anyone, when you're starting to negative, negative, negative, or I'm too empathic, look at it like your perception of that is creating it to be a burden for you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_03I'm learning is a natural, beautiful, sacred, powerful gift. We all are of it. Yeah, because it's in our spiritual nature, and we are not human if we don't have a spirit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
Intuition Versus Overthinking and Empathy
SPEAKER_00Can we talk about like grief and loss? Because that's what that's you know, you do that. Do you do do you do readings like daily, or how does that oh yeah, for 30 years?
SPEAKER_03I've been doing readings full time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I work with a lot of people who've lost children. So I deal with some very intense cases. I deal a lot with suicide, sadly.
SPEAKER_00Wow, really? Okay. How how can we because I was reading a lot about how you the on your website, it just sounds very um like beautiful, like death can be beautiful. The way that's how I interpret it when I was reading. And it's like, so what can we learn from like grief and loss and like losing people that are close to us?
SPEAKER_03We can learn a lot about who we are. I mean, I think that's what shook me. You know, first my dad, three years later, my mom. I think you were just getting our footing with our dad not being around, and then boom, there's a train, you know, that takes everything away. And you go through, I think, a paralyzing of the way you looked at life is completely different. Your your groundwork, your rug is pulled out from under you. And the minute you start like learning to connect to, you know, a lot of people turn on God then. God's not up there, you know, taking trains off the track, and God's not up there taking your child. God is not doing that. Okay. That's human experiences, human conditions, human, you come down here and you're uh, you know, you're amongst the ways that could take you out. You're not gonna walk around and know those things. Yet there are people who walk a fine line in danger, right? I mean, some people do it for a beautiful mountain climb. To me, that I would take one step up and probably fall. So I know I'm not gonna do that. But everybody's there's extreme, and then there's, you know, just somebody walking out the door and a car comes up on the lawn. I mean, I've seen crazy passings where grief is just like, oh my gosh. But your grief will teach you how to trust your spirit. And that's at a time when the last thing you want to do is learn anything. So you gotta, you gotta kinda strat the wings on a little bit and say, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna believe in eternal life because that's you know, the spirit, you know, like the simplest thing sometimes when it's like I remember like the just believe in the spirit of things. You know, some people may listen to this and they just lost somebody, devastating. Some people may listen and think, oh, it's a bunch of crap, but it's such simple stuff that people bring, you know, to show I'm watching you, I see you. And your connection to your own spirit plugs you into that vibration to communicate more directly with them, especially. I think everyone should know that. And sometimes you just need the telephone operator or the interpreter, and that's what really is mediums. I think we are remediating between the two languages or the two dimensions, but it can be your greatest teacher. I mean, I think of my mom and you know, going to the medium. And if I didn't take the steps to start to be let that curiosity take me where it did, when I think of all the people I've worked with in 30 years, and I do this full time five, six days a week, and I don't overload my schedule, you know, three, four maybe a day, you know, that's the most. You know, we have experiences that show us they are with us. And it I'm sad for people who deny that. But sometimes those are the people I get too that, you know, I've dealt with Mennonites. You wouldn't think Mennonites would come. I had a whole family come to me. I don't know if you're familiar because I was from upstate New York, but there was a bad accident. Children were lost in the van too. It was a very bad accident, a whole big van full of people family. And um down the road, one of they somebody actually came. And it was very interesting to channel that because you know they're not walking around seeing mediums.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Wow.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was very, I was very humbled by the experience. And um, yes, so I've worked with some of the hardest things I think, and that's okay. I don't think they're hard. You know, I think it's I take it so naturally that it's like, let's go. Yeah, yeah, no.
SPEAKER_00I I find like my so my father passed away um over 12 years ago. And I didn't golf, did he? Did he golf? No, mm-mm. He wasn't a student.
SPEAKER_03Is there anyone golfing he might watch over? Because when you were talking, I kept seeing golf clubs.
SPEAKER_00Oh, there's been so many people that have passed, and like friends, like friends that were families, so it's anybody golf though. I want to, those golf clubs are awful dominant. It could be for your husband. Yeah, it could be my uh father-in-law, he golfed. That's him.
SPEAKER_03That's they always send something that makes you go, oh my god. And everybody golfs. I can go months. I like I love when people say Mary or John, and well, everybody has a Mary or John. I go, I can go months without saying Mary and John. I'm sorry, I don't say that in every reading, you know. So I kind of laugh. Like if you're doing groups, somebody always wants to. Well, everybody has a Mary. No, they don't. That's true. That's true. So yeah, I laugh. But that's him. That would be him saying, Hey, we're here. So who else who ate bacon? See, I'm getting stuff for you. Who is a bacon unless you ate it this morning or something silly? Food is emotional. I've been eating a lot of bacon recently. All right, so in let me, and you're getting emotional. I can't give you those emotions. That's you feeling his spirit, most likely your dad and whoever else. I know I can taste ham and cheese. What's up with the food? Who loved the food up there?
SPEAKER_00Oh, well, my grandma just passed away. She loved to cook, so all right. It's like a ham and cheese sub.
SPEAKER_03But the bacon to me make a good ham and cheese sub. Yeah, thank you. Like there's so many foods, you know what I mean? And for me to be feeling that now, it's like their way of saying, Oh, let's say hello to her right now. You know, I don't care. If I didn't see anything, I'd tell you, oh, I'm sorry I didn't get anything, but that's rare. Yeah. Wow. And see, food is emotional. We make memories around it, we we we cook emotionally. There are moments in time with it. So when I see food, I take it seriously because I know somebody up there is making me taste it. That was a very good ham and cheese, by the way, grandma. And uh, yeah, and the bacon would be, oh, show her that. We're watching her, you know.
SPEAKER_00We're watching. I just got back from Hawaii. Um, my brother lives there, and literally every day, because he has two little girls and they like bacon. So every day we were making bacon.
SPEAKER_03And I don't eat that much bacon, which is funny. Right. And what's bigger about that to me would be your dad and maybe your grandmother, and whoever else would be who you'd be hoping would watch over you guys, was are saying, We were there, we know you were there. Tell her bacon. She, that's all they were like they're saying more, but it's a vision, and their visions are created from the emotions due to things they watch over and memories. Pretty simple. When you look at it that way, that's what they're bringing. Yeah, yeah. I had a guy once go like this, I think it was a Zoom call, and the family was on, and we were talking. The father was in spirit, a few other people. But I said, Your father's showing me a and he went like that. I go, he's showing me a bottle of Jack Daniels. And they I tell this story a lot because it really opens the door. And they go, they all start laughing. And I go, Oh, did he drink his Jack Daniels? Because he's holding it like that. You go, they go, No, that was his name. And I said, Did he drink? And they go, Never a drop.
SPEAKER_00That is funny.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's and I tell that story because it gives people an understanding. I didn't know what it meant either. I don't tell you, I know what it means, you know. I do know it means something to them, and they know it's gonna spark you. And what I laugh about when I tell that story, because I have shared it to give, especially new people that give them an understanding. If I see a bottle of Jack Daniels, you're gonna hear about it, okay? I always say someday when I cross, I hope it's always the way he's gonna be on the path after mom and dad say hi and say, Hey, it's Jack. Oh, that's so fun. I mean, he showed I've told his story so much, you know. Yeah, yeah. And then, and then there's another with the Jack Daniels that I saw it, and it was a mom and son who came. And I said, Oh, your dad's showing me a battle of Jack. I think it's probably the only two times I ever. Saw Jack Daniels. And the kid got very emotional. And he's, I go, your dad, you know, says I know or something. And he showed him Jack. And he goes, Well, the night my dad died, we were drinking Jack Daniels, and he fell out of the golf cart and bit his head. But he said, before they closed the casket, I put a bottle in there. And I've always wondered if he knew. So do you see the two different all with a bottle of Jack Daniel? Yeah. You know, and I tell people that's how simple communication is meant to be. But it's your stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I love that. I think I've learned that death, I'm I'm not afraid of death. I've never, I don't feel like I've ever been afraid of it. And so when he died, I felt like I needed to do some a lot of inner transformation because the way I communicated, the way I showed up was just horrible. And so I feel like death can really, really teach us things. And and like with my grandmother, she just passed away um last month and in July. And it's like I'm not I'm sad for myself because I lose her, but she was so ready. Like she was so ready to go. So I'm happy for her. And I've that's how I've been describing it to people. I'm like, and it sounds so bizarre. I'm like, I'm so happy for her that she's no longer here. I'm just sad for myself. And people just look at me. I'm like, no, she was ready. She was she was ready. She lived a beautiful life. That's right. And she's ready to go.
SPEAKER_03Should be. I think if we could honor that, you know, and each passing is different. Like, you know, when people lose kids and there's accidents and there's that's different. But that's still it's different. But I've worked with enough parents to see that they do find their way, some and some are in the very beginning stages, and they're trying to find their way to, you know, their child's signs and the connection they can still have, because that's the only thing that will help you, you know, you know, to focus on you'll never you will see them again. They will be. I always love the ending of the movie The Gladiator, when if you ever saw it, but at the very end, you know, I watch that now and still baw my eyes out, you know. And my husband's like, you deal with that every day.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, it's different. Yeah. It feels you feel it.
SPEAKER_03You know, I see that every day for people. And yeah, I go, I'll never want to give up that feeling that emotion. It's not depths of sadness, it's actually just emotion, you know, from the beautiful beauty of being reunited, you
Grief Signs From Loved Ones
SPEAKER_03know. And we will be. Do you believe that all spirits go to the same place? Like we all go. Oh, that's such a good question. There are different vibrations in heaven, and there are very low vibrations that are probably look not considered heaven. I have seen it. Um, I've had two experiences with seeing, yeah. Really? And believe it or not, I don't know if you want me to share the story or something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, if you're comfortable, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Well, I remember one time asking, I talked to God, Jesus. I mean, that's you know, when I was little and I would see scary things and no scary things, that's who I prayed to. And I always felt when I could sense the Jesus Jesus, I was safe and and then I would be okay. So that was my place, you know, very spiritually connected that way. And it doesn't have to be everybody's person, you know, but it it is mine.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's my person too. So yeah, love me some decent.
SPEAKER_03And and I remember thinking about that one day, like, okay, there's a lot of things that go on, and there's some not nice things. Where are they when they don't get into the light? Because and they say it's their choice, you when you cross, there are people who've done not so nice things that can see the light, and most likely a loved one will meet them or something, and then they may not feel worthy and they can back off and go into these lower places. But my question was the people in the lowest of low places, how where where how did they get out? Like that's I asked probably that simply. The next day in my own little meditation time, when I was not thinking about the question I put out, that's usually when it'll happen. I was just doing my little breathing and having a moment, and I saw myself sitting in the grand on the Grand Canyon. I'm afraid of heights, I would never do that in real life. And I was sitting on the edge, and I could sense the white robe and the sandals next to me, Mr. Jesus. And I and I heard him say, Watch. And I started in the in the meditation, I was very aware that I was seeing the Grand Canyon, and I heard this is the closest vortex humans and spirit can actually be physically. And I didn't really know what that meant in the moment. But then all of a sudden, gray ash covered for eons of what you could see. And I've only seen it on TV, you know, and well, I feel like now I have seen it really, but in all that gray, smoky I saw, like when you're at a concert, you're kind of young, maybe you don't remember, but we all would have bic lighters and we'd go and you would just see the flickery, right? And as I was gazing at the gray, I saw the flickers start happening through the whole thing. And he said to me, This is their heart light. They've called for us, they've called for a loved one, they've called for help. And as fast as you saw that light, they were home with us, getting help, being told, or you know, apologizing, whatever it is. You don't have to apologize, but that's what I was told, and it makes sense to me. Yeah, because you do get out if you want, you know, and there's lower levels of learning that lower, but you know, lower vibrations, and then there's the divine, and I have felt that, and I've felt that in other things, but it's really real. It's fascinating to me. You know, I wish I could paint what I see because that's I love it.
SPEAKER_00I love I love that gift. Uh, I think it's pretty cool that you have to do. You have it too. We all have it. Yeah, you know, it's do we all have it?
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, we all have it, because we all have, you know, it's the frequencies. It's like in your highest vibrational frequency is your your union with the divine or God and the universe. And then you you can come down some notches and still be coping and you know, see and trusting intuition. And then then there's the flat line where you're in the real, you know, maybe even grief is right above the flat line because grief is one of the lowest emotions we experience as a human being, but we're still in our higher nature. And then when you get under the flat line, you're starting to go into what we would they would call, well, absence of light, really, where your darkest thoughts, it's where addictive patterns are. Your addict, your spirit can't be addicted. So when people heal addiction, they have to go into their higher vibration. If that's their what they're comfortable with wording, not spirit, not God, not the universe. Some people need it to be more science. They need to get up in that zone because you will not deal with addiction in that zone. You will see addictive patterns before they could take over. But and it's one of the biggest things I see working with people who struggle with things like that, and they're trying to, they want, they reach out to me because they want to learn meditation to help. You know, that's why I stay mental wellness, you know. I'm in that lane. I know what I can do to help you with that, along with any other, you know, therapy or supervision you want to medically. But when you get out of that frequency of down here, your net your lower desire body won't dominate. And your higher desire body that wants happiness, it wants health, it wants a wealth, it wants a partner, it wants or partners. You know, we don't grow old with every partner, you know. We can't. Usually, most people have two or three in their lifetime that are very soul level for the soulmate
Where Spirits Go and Why It Matters
SPEAKER_03searchers. Quit searching for one.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_03So you believe that there's more than one because I know there's yeah, yeah, because your soul it wouldn't make sense if there's only one. That would be absurd. And you know, sometimes it is your first love, and sometimes that's not the most positive experience, but it's a mate of the soul that it had to, and most people don't grow old with that vibration, that young youth. There are people that have, I've met them. And then, you know, so then you're, you know, where are you vibrationally? And then that's who you're gonna draw to you anyway. You know, I remember what I got, my husband had just come out of something, and it was, you know, real recent, like a week, and I went to visit my hometown, and I knew him my whole life, but you know, I lived 2,000 miles away. And when we started talking, we were out in the local town bar. It was like I looked out the window and I heard you're gonna marry him. And I'm like, Dad, are you being with me? I'm looking out at this snowstorm. I don't even want to be there. I want to go back to I lived in Florida at the time, and then I had to move back there. But and and we ended up, he came and visited and never left. And it's been like 33 years. Good for you. Good for you. So, hey, man, Jesus, we've made it. I know we laughed, but you just never know. And I tell people, sometimes you're just looking, you're looking, don't look. But that night, that was the point. I had a conversation with God and said, I will never compromise my happiness, I will never compromise who I am, I will always follow what my purpose and direction at the time. I was still, I don't think I knew what it was, but I'd made a commitment to follow what was for the best for me. And it never stopped from that moment. And he popped in that week when I went home to visit.
unknownWow.
SPEAKER_03So you don't know, you know. I never would have thought that in elementary school that I'd be married. No, I left that town because of guys like him. Really? Oh, yeah, you know, when you're young, crazy.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a fun story. If if someone loses someone suddenly, like going back to children or you know, younger people, like what is it that we can do? Like, what do you tell people? Because obviously you're devastated. The grief is, I'm sure, just yeah. Like, how can we start that healing process?
SPEAKER_03I think you know, you know, when what I do when I'm working with someone is say, you know, let's I give them, you know, we're gonna do a blessing, and I'm gonna start getting a lot of visions and feelings and names and things. And and these are gonna be coming from your loved ones in spirit. And sometimes it's not the child. So for example, we're working with the kid. And I said, but it might be their grandmother or your grandmother bringing them in. Trust me, they're there. You're not that's the last all the years I've done this. The last thing I worry about is will somebody be there or not? Never do they not show.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03Okay, they are they treat this so sacred, they got you to me. But if you're working, if somebody's not, you know, feeling they want to work with a medium, just start to believe that their spirit is still very close. Trust uh the uh emotions that you have if you see something simple that makes you think of them, a heart-shaped something, you know, anything. Just just start to believe in the spirit of who they are. And then you can start, you know, little things will start happening. And in the in the dream state, you know, like at night when you lay your head on the pillow, which is a lot of times where people will really be crying and anxious as just start saying, I know you're with me in my dreams. I know. And you have to, you really have to start working with your inner dialogue to get that trust for yourself, you know. And that's really what mediums do. We create the space for your communication. It isn't I do it, you can't. It's we're gonna do this together. I do not know what the golf club means. I do not know what seeing bacon means. For you, it's different. For the JF Daniels, it was two different vibrations. One was extremely sad, and one was funny. He got me to say his name by showing me it. So you just and when you trust that much, that's when you're gonna start having your own experiences in the dreams that come too because your logical mind's turned off in the dream state. That's a very important time. Somebody's showing me frogs. Why am I saying frogs? You got a funny story about a frog, or is there one croaking outside the door right now? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00No, there was a frog this weekend, and my husband, my husband, we were up north because my son is our our son is up there um playing football. And it we had a campfire going, and it was just the five I have three kids, so it was the five of us. And my husband walks in, he's like, Yeah, there's an animal. We were like, an animal, and it was just a little frog, and he's like, Well, it is an animal. I'm like, but you made it sound like it was like a beaver or a maracoon or the spirit world was laughing at him, and he it was funny, okay. Oh, yeah, we were cracking up. That was and you said his dad is up there, his dad is up there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, now that to me would be something everyone's probably having a good giggle, but his dad would bring that. You tell my son I saw him freaking out about that frog. You know, it is like there's usually more of a sentence, but the vision has a story behind it, they know it, you know it, and that's you know, that's where you know, validating comes in. We don't always know what we're talking about, but you know, we certainly I when you understand these visions are heart from their spirit, and there's so emotions that that they can give you, then you you just can't doubt it. And that's funny. Like I saw a frog, I didn't hold that back.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, it was a funny, it was a funny moment. And his dad would have thought it was really funny too. So yeah, that's cute. Yeah, I like that. I love that. I need to do a reading with you, a proper reading. Oh, you're gonna do that. I would love to, I would love that. I would love that because we've had quite a few people pass on, so it'd be interesting to see what they're they're trying to tell us.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah. I always say, take the word trying out, they're gonna tell you. Trust me. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and I always tell people too, you know, make a little list of the things you want them to bring in. And I always do that in the meditation too. I say, you know, have a little moment to just tell them. But if you don't can't think of anything, don't worry. Don't worry. You as you go along, you might think of something, you know, don't worry. But sometimes people will go, everything on my list got answered. And then maybe one thing I said wasn't answered. And then they'll show me something I said already, and they're like, Oh, I didn't realize that was the answer. Well, they're showing you they hear you directly. That's what they're trying to show you when you make a little couple things that you hope they mention, you know what I mean? That's for you to see that they hear you directly, not for me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Oh, I love it. This is beautiful. I can talk to you for forever. We can continue with a very long time. We can keep talking because I love this conversation. Uh definitely come back. Yeah, I would love that. And I would love to privately do do a reading
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SPEAKER_00with you. Okay. So, what other services that you have? So whoever's listening can go to your website and say, This is what I need. This is what I need in my life.
SPEAKER_03I I offer a lot of uh well, channeling, personalized meditation to set goals and dreams in motion or just to relax. I have chakra, a new one chakra blueprint, which I'm really excited. I did one the other day on a client. And you know, I go in and I see the subconscious sabotage and then I balance them, and then we have there's always a reading after everything I do. You always get not like a full-on channel, unless you want that, then that's but if you go to my website, interlight teaching. I do offer a free consultation. It's just usually a few moments, maybe 10 minutes, where we can you can look at the services and then come back and ask me questions about the services or what would suit them. I have little programs to help you save a little. If you want to do a series of sessions, you can pick anything you want. Channel one, chakra balance, another, personalized meditation channel again. So I have a lot on there, but it's really to help people if they want to do more packaging or if they want to just do one and see how it is. And again, I, you know, I love I love helping and I practice what I preach. You know, I have to use the conveyor belt too sometimes, you know. And one of my favorite mantras, and maybe your audience will take this, is I bless you, I set you free. If it's something that's bothering you, hurting you, you're struggling with a question or anything. I bless you, I set you free, and just trust that within three days you'll get an answer at the most.
SPEAKER_00I promise and set you free. Okay.
SPEAKER_03I promise I set you free. I set you free. Because you're saying to yourself, I bless you. I'm sorry, I bless you, I set you free to be put out so I can open intuitively. Like you're saying a lot more with those words. And if you go to my website and put in your email address, you'll get the seven free meditations immediately. And there's all different lengths, you know. So in the tree.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna go, I'm gonna sign up because I I love all of it. And I feel like I want to grow uh not yeah, I I've been growing spiritually the past few years, and I just want to continue on that journey and and I have no doubt you're doing it without even realizing you're doing it.
SPEAKER_03And sometimes that's a realization that wow, I am. You know, I used to be a jogger before my knee decided, you know, you're not gonna do that anymore. And and that was years ago. But I realized that when I was jogging, you know, three, five miles a day, I was in a very meditative state. I didn't realize when I had to stop how much I missed it wasn't just the physical, it was where I went. So then I started walking and I still walk every day. I love to walk. And I use my walking meditation sometimes, but sometimes I want to listen to some rock and roll, and sometimes I want to listen to, you know, chanting. So trust what you does, you you run the show.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know. I love that. I love that. I think once we find out that we do have control over our lives, it is very um a lot of things shift and it feels very powerful.
SPEAKER_03A lot of things do, and it helps you understand other people who do not. And that's where the word patience, patience will run out, compassion will not. And you shift from losing patience to being more compassionate to a situation or a person or whatever it is. Yeah, you know, yeah, compassion is that's the one in the spiritual nature that I I forgot that. Remember, I said there's one more. Your compassion is above and beyond, you know, you know, patience is human, compassion is spirit.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I like that. I like that, Beth. Beth, thank you. Like I said, I can continue to talk all day long with you, but um, if you can come back on anytime, I would reach out. Hey, I got something to say. You know, if you haven't I always got something to say. And I and I love I this is my favorite type of conversation is talking about spirituality and God and it's well, thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and it it's a conversation that sadly, yeah. You know, yeah, it's a missing link. You know, one of my topics is spirituality is the missing link in a s of a species in crisis. That's a very it's all that's missing and explaining why. And you know, when you look at a lot of the hard things, those qualities that I shared, intuition, creative compassion, that's what's missing in a situation and it creates war within. Yes, amen.
SPEAKER_00Amen. Amen, Beth. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I appreciate it. And I'll reach out. I'm gonna put in my email so I can get those meditations and reach out for the private uh private reading because I'm curious. I'm curious what they're gonna say to me. All right, all right, Beth. Again, a pleasure. This was been amazing. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. I appreciate your trust. Thank you, thank you. We'll be talking again. Okay, all right, bye. I'll leave you all with this. Grief reminds us that love doesn't disappear when someone is gone. It simply asks us to learn a new way of carrying it. So wherever you are in your journey, give yourself permission to feel, to listen, to heal, and to trust what your inner light is showing you. Thank you so much for listening to Virago247. If you haven't done so already, go ahead and hit that subscribe button and please give us five-star ratings. Also, don't forget to follow us on Instagram at Virago24 underscore seven and on Facebook at Virago24 slash seven. And just connect with us and share your story. We'd love to hear from you.