Episode 59: Building Hope After Loss, featuring Megan Dominici

In this heartfelt episode, Kathryn sits down with Megan Dominici, a Napa-based youth director and mother who tragically lost her daughter, Addie. Megan opens up about her journey through grief, sharing how she has transformed pain into purpose by honoring Addie’s memory and fostering resilience in young people. Together, they explore creative ways to cope with loss, the vital role of community support, and practical strategies for navigating life after tragedy. The conversation also highlights the Hopeful Cities initiative in Napa, offering listeners insight into resources and skills that can help build hope in their own lives and communities.

Napa, California joins Hopeful Cities movement, and residents are encouraged to download the no-cost resources for Hope. For more information, visit www.hopefulcities.org/unitedstates/california/napa   

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This is Kathryn Goetzke, host of The Hope Matrix Podcast. We are here to share science, stories and strategies for how to hope. I'm the Chief Hope officer of the Shine Hope Company. And SHINE is the mnemonic for how we teach hope. So when we talk about hope, we talk about how we use Stress Skills, Happiness habits, Inspired Actions, Nourishing Networks and Eliminating Challenges which are thinking patterns that get in the way of our ability to hope. Hope is a skill. You can measure hope, you can teach hope and you can start practicing skills to activate higher hope in your life today. And on this Hope Matrix podcast, we aim to bring in guests, experts in science, people with stories, and those that have strategies for activating hope in your life. Well hello listeners this is Kathryn Goetzke with the Hope Matrix podcast. It's so good to be back after a little bit of a break I am excited here to be here with you today. And Megan Dominici, she is from Napa, California, and I am so excited to share. She is our Shine Hope hero in Napa. So welcome to the show, Megan. Thank you so much. Yes, and it's so amazing. And for those that can't see, Megan, if you're listening and she's wearing a Be Kind button, which of course, and has a joy sign behind her. So we already love Megan and yes, are so grateful that you are joining the podcast sharing your story. And, yeah, willing to chat with us more today. About really how you shine hope in the world and how from everything I've heard, you're just such a leader for others and what we teach and and then each kind of community that we go into, we try to find someone that we can kind of highlight and, and share how, you know, we can get through hard things. And that these skills are a critical kind of part of doing that. So again, thank you so much for joining. So how long have you been in Napa? I born and raised here in Napa. So I have been here my entire life, with the exception of my college years and, couple of years when I first got married. But otherwise, born and raised right here in Napa. Wow, I love Napa. It's such a great, such a great area. So grateful to be be, activating hope in your community. Yes, we're we're excited about this. This is a very, it's a very special community to me. So to, to we talk about hope in this community is so exciting. Thank you, thank you. And, you know, for those that are and aren't familiar with Hope, science, hope is actually a measurable and teachable skill. So, we have a hope scale. And we've created programing for all ages, to how to cultivate hope. Based on what we've researched and shine is the framework and the mnemonic we use to do that, which stands for Stress Skills how we identify and manage our stress response, happiness habits, or how we get those happy hormones and healthy ways versus unhealthy ways inspired actions. So how we set goals, overcome obstacles, how we, you know, sometimes just take one step forward when things are really hard. Nourishing networks, how we cultivate networks, especially in challenging times and then eliminating challenges, which are all of those negative thought patterns that get in the way of our ability to hope. And we have programs for all ages, and we license them to cities. And and again, Napa has just joined on board to be a hopeful city. So really grateful for that. And I know that you put in good words for us about it. So, thank you and thanks for helping us activate Hope in the community because you know, studies are on our youth, especially up to 57% of teen girls, over 40% of all youth identify with persistent hopelessness, and it predicts all risky behaviors and violence and suicide and addiction. So it's super important that we activate these skills right now. So again, thank you for joining and learning and sharing more. So we're here to talk about your own story and your own journey. To hope. And you know, it's you know, have a he went through something really hard. So I first wanted to, just give you, some time to maybe share more about your own journey, with hope and and, Yeah. Your own experience. Okay. Well, first of all, I am the director of, outreach here at Justin Siena, Catholic High School in Napa. And so I'm super blessed to be working with young people every single day. And I absolutely love it, because I think that young people bring an energy and life to, things that require change. And so I am blessed to be able to walk alongside so many young people. So that is that is at the heart of me. I spent almost, almost 20 years as a youth minister. So, before that. And so I've been working with teenagers my entire adult life. So, it is my favorite thing to do. And, six years ago, almost six years ago this month, my daughter, Addie, passed away in a tragic accident. And it was one of those where, it was, beautiful day. We were celebrating my mom's 70th birthday. It was a surprise party. Addie was so excited. And a freak accident happened. A stack of chairs fell on her, and, that was, the beginning of a of a new world for us. And so what we learned in that tragedy was the power of community. The power of coming together and how important it is to to keep moving. But, but also to to be here to to take something from, Addie's short little life and, pass it on to other people. I think, right away people said to me how in all they were of our faith and, I remember I think it was the second day I remember standing up in front of, my school community and just wanting to make sure that the kids knew that Addie was okay. There was the I'll say the word hope, but for me, it was like just a strong faith. I had no question from the very beginning that Addie was okay and that she was in a better place. And because of that, I have found great peace. And and I don't say that like, there's there's some there is some very awful days. And I still go through them. And it is crazy that six years later, some of the days just wipe me out. And I don't know where it came from. And it's messy. But in the heart of of me, I know that she is in a good place and that, my faith carries me through that. And the fact that, we are surrounded by a community that loves us. And there would be a text message from from somebody sometimes wasn't someone I knew all that well, but it was, text of of love and hope and, you know, moving forward and just and it was a hug in a, in a form of a text. And that was a pretty special thing. Yeah. Well, yeah, those I mean, it's the way that that happened. So tragic. It's such a shift from one day to the next. Everything is just kind of different. All of a sudden. How did you deal like, how did you deal with grief practically on it. So the as we talk about struggles and grief is, you know, one of those emotions, the sadness that can, you know, feel so overwhelming and, and so I hear that you had that balance, you know, that faith and that. And you also had the that like, how did you practically deal with that? I think the practical side of it was, well, you know, it's interesting. So I have two other children, Nick and Sophia. They're older than Addie. So they were big sister, big brother. And I remember people saying, I don't know how you're, how you're managing, like, I don't know. And I remember in the early days I said, I, you know, I don't have a choice. I have these two other kids that I, that I have to take care of. I have a husband like I have. I don't have a choice. And it might have been I have maybe like a year later, I realized that I actually did have a choice. And every day I was choosing something. And, it was hard work and it did require action. But I just remember thinking, you know, I don't have a choice. I have to do this and and that wasn't that wasn't truth because I was actively choosing. And I think what you're asking is what would that look like? And and I think that was, you know, getting up in the morning and, you know, doing what I had to do to take care of what was in front of me in that moment. For me, exercise is important. So keeping, you know, active and doing some of my routine things. But service is a huge part of who I am. And being able, like, I think in my messiest moments when I take care of somebody else, I feel better. And I think that's that's what, what my job is actually at dress in Siena with outreach is it's service. And so I'm constantly you're telling the young people, well, let's if you're in a messy place, well, let's get out there and let's serve, because service is such a powerful way for us to to put our troubles kind of aside for a moment and think about something different. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. That's part of I mean, and the research all supports that. It's part of our happiness habits and doing things for other volunteering, giving back, getting out of that self and giving for others, exercise, nutrition, kind of sleep, all of those things. And oftentimes when we go through challenging times, we don't do that stuff because we're so consumed with our own grief or anger or fear or kind of whatever it is. And so, like you say, it is a choice and it's a hard choice. Like, what do you think? How do you think you were able to get out of bed? I mean, how do you think you were able to. Yeah, I think that I think just hearing you say it like that, there were there were things that I let go of. There were absolutely things that I was like, you know what? I don't have to worry about that right now like that. It's not important. And recognizing that there was some things that we just had to set aside. For the moment, we'll get to that when we get to that, that that really helped. I definitely I spoke to, professionals. I instantly was set up with a therapist. One of my first things I asked, I think that day was help me figure out how I'm supposed to raise two kids who have lost a little sister. And I wanted to make sure that I was equipped to to parent two kids who were grieving their sister. So like, so many layers of it. But at the Help, asking for help, asking was it was super important. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And courageous that you did. And so smart that you that often we don't and we go for years and then we internalize everything and we have all of these unhealthy kind of coping mechanisms. So doing it up front when you're in that kind of crisis, trauma response to help you kind of keep going and keep you accountable and moving through it. And processing is so critical, so amazing that you did that for yourself when and you know that you're already thinking about others, like how, how is it going to impact them and what can I do to support them. So just and I think too, that is such a helpful perspective to take, because when we are thinking about other people and they impact and what we can do, you know, it takes that focus of I mean, it takes the, you know, oh, poor me or, or this happened to me and I can't do anything because it's so horrible for me, you know, because we do still have meaning and purpose and we have to learn how to navigate kind of the new experience in life. Absolutely. Yeah, I will say, I, I just lost, a very dear friend of mine to cancer, and I was trying to process why it was hitting me so hard. Like, isn't like, somehow shouldn't get a little easier to to deal with these feelings. And my sister was processing with me and she, she very much said, I've been thinking about you, Meg, and thinking that, how this impacts you so much. But I think the moment you will feel grief of that, you know, extent you immediately feel it all over for your loved ones. So every time somebody has that similar experience that you have, you just carry it and you feel it. And, I have to give myself a lot of grace in those moments because they can, they can be messy. Yeah, yeah. And they feel like they're going to stay forever, at least for me, like, ever. I was like, I'm never this going to feel horrible forever. And it's still, I still I mean, it's been since I lost my dad. I, you know, over 35 years. I think. And I'm still like some days I just can't breathe it, you know, it just it all comes back. But yeah, it's it's really wonderful that you were proactive for yourself and for your family and, and kind of navigating your way, and, and the actions, what were the, like, any specific things you did that really help or. Like what? Like taking one step forward. I mean, sometimes it can just feel impossible to get out of bed, you know, or to do one thing and, you know, you're mentioning your family and, and, support and take care of. And so a lot of people have that and they can't find the strength to get out of bed or the will to get out of bed. What do you think? You know, it is or what what supported you in that? Well it's interesting. Right away one of my dear friends said I was going to struggle with this because, I, I lost my grandmother to smoking, and I joined the, tobacco station in a program, and I was like, I'm going to do whatever I can to prevent others. My brother passed away and drinking and driving car accident. And I, you know, I joined the DUI Prevention task force, and he looked at me and he's like, I think he was afraid I was going to struggle because I wouldn't have a cause to pick up and at ease, Nate. And which was kind of an interesting thing. But I have to say, Covid hit us six months after Addie's passing, freely unfair to to strip us from our people six months into to grieving. But, we actually came up with some really fun ways to share Addy's message. So we got, flamingos, the plastic flamingos that go in front yards. And, we flocked people full throughout Covid, and we put this funny message and it was all about, we have a tagline for Addie. It's live rad, live Remembering Addie Dominique. And so we had these signs and the kids and my husband and I would get in the car and we'd go flock a couple houses each night. And, being creative as to how we could share her story and, do something really fun, we we say her a little line to remember her. We say, be silly, be kind, be you. And I actually think that the silly one is really, really important. So having fun and and being playful has been really important. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's again, that's another thing. Like we get our happy hormones and healthy ways. Being playful is one of those things, but we so often think that when we're in grief we have to, you know, hide away and be sad and be, you know, and and that can get us that, that just ups our stress response. And that's what leads to illness and disease. And so it's so important. And it can be counterintuitive, which we can think we shouldn't be doing that. So it's really wonderful. And I know that Addie is so like grateful that, you know, you're caring. And what a cool thing to do to kind of carry her message, in those ways in the community, you know, for her. That's so fun. That's really. Yeah. But the day after, the accident, we were celebrating my mom's birthday, so we had a big cake, and I'm known for a good old cake fight. And I remember I've tons that my nieces and nephews, everyone was gathered in there holding this cake, and they're like, there's no way we're going to eat it. And so, like, before you know it, we are like, we're thrown cake. And, you know, I think, humor and laughter really has been at the heart of our healing process with, without a doubt. Addie's cousins were were there at the accident. These poor kids had to give her CPR. Six years old, little, so hard, so hard on them. And, they when they hugged me, even to this day, they hug me extra tight, and I just I just love these kids so dearly. And I just feel, I wasn't there. At the accident, my husband and I ran an errand, so we. We didn't have to do that ugliest part of it. But these kids did. So loving on them and embracing them, is so important to me. Well, you talked a little bit about the text messages people sent. I think oftentimes people don't know what to say or don't know what to do. So can you talk a little about what you heard that was helpful or supportive? And if there's anything that wasn't, yeah. Can you share? Yeah, I would actually say, honestly, less is more. Don't don't overthink it. For me, the most powerful moments were the hugs. I would get a hug from someone that just said it said so much in that, in that hug, I do. I recall, a phone call, Addy's principal and I tell this story all the time because, you know, she went to a public school. He's calling me checking in on, I don't know. Did I say Addie Sofia's principal? So she was just calling to check in on Sophia, and when we ended the conversation, he said, I love you. And I thought, we don't use that phrase enough at all. And here's this man who I sincerely felt the love hands down. And we we hold on to a little to to tight and people were sharing I love you and hugs in a way that were so needed and so appreciated. And we shouldn't we shouldn't hold them for those awful moments. We should say them more often. I love that, yeah, we were just talking about that. And my friend Scarlett Lewis actually runs that Choose Love movement and she teaches love and I you know, we have we have this fear associated with Saint love that it means this. But like really it's the greatest gift you can give people hugs and love and like, yeah, it's it's it's a that's a magical thing that's great for a principal to say, you know. Yeah, that's super special. And so you've talked and is nourishing networks and you've talked a lot about your networks supported you through that. I mean, how do people like, how do you build and strengthen networks a lot? You know, we know that loneliness is very high in, our country. And I often say lonely, you know, you have to set goals if you're if you're experiencing loneliness, you've got to circle, you know, you've got to look at your hopelessness about that, and you've got to set goals and take steps to actually create connections, because it does take a lot of work to build and keep connections. And it sounds like you're pretty brilliant data. So can you give us any words of wisdom and how do y'all make better connections? And. I that's a really that's a really good question. And, and I do know that people they struggle with that and are constantly looking. I, I think putting yourself out there is so essential, so much easier said than done. I do realize that. But every chance that we have to to reach out and to nurture, it's so important. We lose sight of the little text messages, how how far they can go when we when we nurture relationship. And I don't think we have to look too far. I think I think we have to look who, who's right in front of you. If it's classmates or teachers or, you know, a youth group or whatever it might be, and just nurture exactly what it is we have in front of us. Neighbor like that. And, and sometimes just, just going out and, you know, putting a sign on a door can, can open possibilities. And I love it. I, like I said, working with teenagers, inspiring them to be creative as to how they can make a difference in this world, has taught me so much of the different ways that we can do relationship and networking and that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. So critical. And yeah, and in talking about your work, I mean, and you know, I mentioned the statistics around kids and hopelessness and I just, I always think of if we could just tell all of their angst and, and anger and fear and sadness into like solving challenges and innovating and ideating around the things they care most about, like that could be such a powerful, powerful force. And and unfortunately, right now they're using it to harm themselves or harm other people for the most part. And that's why to me, teaching them these skills are so critical. Because once you learn how to do that, harness the power of your sadness and use it to fuel action. You know why you're here? What your purpose and to innovate and problem solve around things. Same with the anger and and frustration and and and fear. And I love that you work with kids because I mean, they teach me, you know, so much and have taught me so much about how we hope, you know, they're so brilliant at it. And I almost think they kind of learn it. We we teach it out of them. And. Oh, but. I agree. I have a yeah. So getting them back to that. That's so fun. Great. And we know that you know, everyone needs at least one person they can talk to in times of challenge. And, you know, when we have our educators, we always encourage them. If students don't have anyone, please be that for that student they need. That's a big indicator of success in life. And outcomes for them is having that one trusted adult or person in their life, or a best friend or, you know, someone they can go to. So that's super important. And then eliminating challenges, which are the kind of negative thinking patterns. Did you have a lot of challenges with with those like were you in your head a lot after it happened? Did you ruminate a lot? Did you, you know, worry about the future? What were some of those? I would say for me, the, the hardest thing for me was silence. So when I would lay down at night, any kind of quiet time just it took me to a place I didn't want to be. So I didn't allow for way too long. I didn't allow myself to have quiet time. I'd put the earbuds in. I'd have some kind of noise. I kept moving and being busy, and it took me a while to to be capable of some quiet time. It was just too messy. I even said that my prayer life got really messy because even though I was at peace then, I knew where Addie was and heaven. Jesus. Not a whole bit. I just the the slow down, quiet moments took me to places I just didn't want to be. And so I avoided a lot. And, it took me a, it took me a stretch to, to figure out how I could allow that silence and the reflection and the moments to even, even just allow me to be present with Addie, which I kind of wasn't allowing myself to do because it was so hard. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. And so do you have any advice for listeners that are having kind of challenges with that, with that quiet, what would you I mean. I don't know if it required me to take the time. I don't know if I would say I, I wouldn't force it in one sense. I've found it in different places. I could find it when I went to church and sat there with other people, that kind of stuff. I think a lot of it is giving yourself that grace I spoke about earlier. Like allowing yourself to to work through the process. Definitely talking it out. If I didn't have the therapist I had that first year, I don't know how I would have made it through some of that. And, and of course, leaning on, leaning on people around me. Yeah, yeah. So wonderful. So the final kind of question is what kind of message would you want to send to the world? You know, we deal with. Yeah. Hopelessness is a completely normal. Our moments of hopelessness are where they happen all the time. So when you break it down into despair, you feel emotional, sad, angry, afraid, and you the sense of helplessness about it. And so, of course, when you lose someone, you're going to, you know, a lot of moments of hopelessness. And it's just really about managing those moments and in healthier ways. And, and we use the shine skills for how we kind of teach on how we do that. But there are so many things we go through moments of hopelessness about and, you know, moving and changing jobs, you know, addiction, veterans have a lot of challenges. If you're housing, you know, if you've got food insecurity, all of these kind of things. And, and so, you know, a would just want to kind of normalize the conversation around it. It doesn't have to be a big thing, to have happen to experience moments of hopelessness. We all experience, that's why we all need to learn, you know, the skills to build our hope muscle. But we kind of end with any kind of messaging you would want to send the world. Or maybe Addie would want to send the world about, You know what? You've been through and insights and what you might, send to other people. I would say that, I think being real is so important. My coworker would walk into my office and he'd be like, okay, what are you at on the Messiness Scale today? And just because he would ask, that would be like, okay, okay. And I'd be like, you know, I'm a mess, you know? And so, you know, having the people that connect talk real with. So but if I was going to give an Adi message, I would say, be silly, be kind and be you. I think all three of those things and the being you is how you do that. Whatever it is that you're going to do, just embrace who you are when you do it. Because we're all going to do it differently. And that's okay. But but know who you are in it and be okay with who you are, because that is the message that Addie gave me loud and clear. She was a little tomboy. She rode BMX bikes, and she, she was not a lover of putting a dress on. And we just embraced it. And we loved her for her unique self. And, as the silliness is real. Have a car. Have fun. That's amazing. That's a wonderful. And let's talk more about the house, Liz and Eric and how you. Now, I'm so excited that he connected me to you, and that they're supporting this initiative and getting hopeful cities as well as mentors. That's really wonderful. So can you talk a little bit more about them and the work they do in your community? And now the Luli we love the house. Liz. My husband and I went on Engaged Encounter Weekend with Eric and Hannah. We both got married a week apart. Which seems like a lifetime ago. And so we've known each other a really long time. Eric's daughter, Elena, was in my youth group, and, when she passed away, they asked me to put on her memorial service, which was a huge honor. And, nothing. You want to do but really, really honored to be able to do that for them, because I just love them so much. When when Elena passed away, she passed away nine months before. Addie. So crazy about that. We have that in common. But when she passed away, I was devastated to to feel the pain of a friend losing a child. Just, It it was it was a lot. And so that experience to help me to be able to relate to people who were feeling our pain when Addie passed. So it was just an experience that we, we learned so much from. But her. I have a beautiful message and Elena's voice and, enough and all the things that they stand behind, we are right there with them. Yeah. So wonderful. So, yeah, Elena's voice is making, hopeful cities and and Napa possible and mentis and and we're working to get other people on board. So we're super excited. And there are a lot of resources now available for all Napa residents, you know, including a teen guide. Or teens can learn about hope. They can get their own teen guide. It's a kind of peer to peer model for learning how to help. We have educator guides. We have a parents guide for how to use that hope language at home and practice practice hope skills. You know, we think of hope like a muscle. You have to get good at it. And the more challenges you have, the more you've got to learn the skills and practice. And, you know, it's a simple kind of construct, but it's not easy and it takes work. And like you said, every day we get up and, you know, when we go through really hard things in life, we have to make that decision to, you know, take the one stop, take the first step, move forward. And and we all have our different paths. But, you know, I, I do wish I'd known what I know now back in my early days, you know, I just would have been a much easier path for me. And I would have, and yet I wouldn't know what I know now. So super grateful for the journey. But yeah, and we have a program for veterans. So we have a facilitator guide and workbook for veterans. We have those in it for incarcerated individuals or in the juvenile justice system, those in recovery. I've been in recovery 21 years and hope and, you know, these skills have definitely been really important in that journey. Shine hope story templates. You can write your own shine Hope stories. So a lot of resources. And the goal is to get them out to as many people as possible. And again, not anyone necessarily experience in hopelessness, but just learning or learning it. Like CPR, you know, what is it? How do we navigate it? How do we get to hope so that we can better support each other in the community and in doing that. So yeah, so I'm so grateful to you, Megan, for joining us. Yeah. Sharing your story, your courage. I know Addie would be so grateful. You know, this is this is how we make it easier, you know, for others by sharing what we know and and what worked and what didn't work. And, and, you know, we don't wish any, any of this on anyone and yet, grateful to carry carry on people's. You know, Addie's voice. My dad's voice. Through Elena's voice, through all of this. So. Yeah. So, listeners, if you live in Napa, be sure to check out all Full Cities and the Napa page where you can download all the resources available at no cost. Again, and if you want to become a whole cities, reach out to us at the shine Hope company. We would love to activate more cities and get these resources to more communities, because they are so critical and we're passionate about ensuring all know you know what homelessness is and how to get to hope. So. Any final words, miss Melody. You so much for giving me the opportunity to share my story. And Addie story too. Oh, absolutely. And thank you. And thank you for being a youth. And is it a what do they sorry you. I fou reach yeah. Yeah, I know I'm trying to think of because I was in that youth program and I loved it. So dig. Well, slugger. You're listening. You're amazing. Hey, I loved I love that group. So. And thank you, listeners for listening. And if you were inspired by any of those, please do share it. And thank you so much. And just now, you know, no matter what you're going through, you can get through it. You know, you just got to buckle down and keep shining, keep shining. Hope, thanks a bunch for listening and thank you. Thank you all for listening in to the Hope Matrix podcast. We want to shine a light that hope is teachable. Hope is measurable and teachable and provide you with actionable insights for how you can start activating hope in your life today and provide a framework so you can start talking about hope with other people and practice these skills together because we are better with hope. Please feel free to check out theshinehopecompany.com, where we list all of our resources around how to Hope. We have a lot of free programs for how to hope, including the five day Challenge, our Hope infographic with a lot of skills that showcase how to hope and articles of how to incorporate hope in your life. We have The Hopebeat Weekly, which is a weekly newsletter that shares strategies for hope. We have a My Hope Story templates so you can write your own Hope story today. Also my Hope Hero so we can share what our heroes are doing to activate hope in their lives. And this is especially good with youth so they can start looking up to people that have overcome similar or challenges to them and seen how these heroes use the Shine Hope framework. We have a Hopeful Minds for Teens program and Hopeful minds Overview Educator Guides. We have a new evidence based college course so you can activate Hope on the college campus. There are programs in the workplace. Overview courses 90 minute courses for learning the what, why and how to hope. What I want you to know about hope is it's a skill. You’ve got to practice these skills to become hopeful. It's easy to fall into despair and helplessness when we deal with challenges in life, and it takes intentional work and practice to get to hope. And yet it is always possible. So no matter what life brings. Keep shining hope. Thanks so much for listening and have an awesome day. And of course, I’ve got to add this, that this program is designed to assist you in learning about hope should not be used for medical advice, counseling, or other health related services. iFred, The Shine Hope Company and myself, Kathryn Goetzke do not endorse or provide any medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. I am not a medical doctor. The information provided here should not be used for the diagnosis or treatment of any medical condition and cannot be substituted for the advice of physicians, license professionals or therapists who are familiar with your specific situation. Consult a licensed medical profession or call 911. If you are in need of immediate assistance and be sure to know the crisis Hotline. 988. If you are in need of support. Thanks so much for listening. Take good care of yourself and keep shining hope.