The Not So Breakfast Show
Listen, laugh and learn as we share our latest thoughts about staying relevant, contemporary leadership and doing life right. Ish Cheyne is the Head of Fitness in New Zealand for global fitness juggernaut Les Mills. Sacha Coburn is the COO of Coffee Culture, a leading group of boutique coffee shops, and the co-founder of The Company You Keep.co.nz.
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Busy or Avoiding? The Truth About Your Workload
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Episode 256: Busy or Avoiding? The Truth About Your Workload
We kick things off mid-real-life chaos, with Sacha juggling admin dramas , a perfect reminder that sometimes the small stuff can feel way bigger than it should.
And it sets the scene perfectly for today’s conversation…
👉 Are you actually busy… or are you avoiding the work that really matters?
In this episode, Ish and Sasha unpack the uncomfortable truth about busyness, how it can become a badge of honour, a distraction, or even an avoidance strategy.
What We Cover
- Why busyness can feel productive (even when it’s not)
- The difference between urgent tasks vs high-impact work
- How we use “being busy” to avoid hard conversations or decisions
- The cognitive load of unfinished tasks (a.k.a. “the rubbish bin effect”)
- Why some work gets delayed until it becomes stressful
- The role of Working Genius in task avoidance
- How systems (and support like EAs) can free up real thinking time
- Why productivity should create space—not just more work
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