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The “Chitucky Bourbon Brothers” podcast, hosted by Mike Nielsen and Tony Meyers, serves as a delightful exploration of bourbon and whiskey culture, offering insightful reviews and discussions about various bourbons and whiskeys. The hosts share their passion for sipping “brown water,” a colloquial term for bourbon and whiskey, and aim to blend music with their love for these beverages, creating an engaging auditory experience for listeners. The podcast not only provides detailed reviews of different bourbons and whiskeys but also promotes a relaxed atmosphere where enthusiasts can enjoy the nuances of their favorite drinks alongside music that complements the experience.
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Episode 120 - Widow Jane The Vaults 15 Year
A hiking-and-biking escape on Lake Superior collides with a neon-lit Vegas weekend—and it all funnels into a glass of Widow Jane Vaults 2024. We open with two very different trips that reveal how our tastes and habits have evolved: early mornings over late nights and a sportsbook booth that turns 50 screens into a day-long living room. That perspective sets up a timely shift into the fall whiskey calendar, where the shelves swell, rumors fly, and the chase begins: Buffalo Trace Antique Collection specs, Pappy drops, King of Kentucky whispers, and the finding time for Kentucky Bourbon Festival next year.
Then we roll up our sleeves for a focused pour. Widow Jane Vaults 2024 blends well-aged Kentucky, Indiana, and Tennessee bourbon and finishes it in Brazilian oak (amburana), clocking in at 99 proof with a premium $250 tag. We break down what an amburana wood cask brings—baking spice, liqueur-like sweetness, darker cocoa threads—and how that finish can dominate the experience. On the nose we find dried fruit and amaretto hints; on the palate a quick burst of caramelized sweetness gives way to a long, assertive spice and nuttiness. One of us loves the richness and length; the other wants more evolution at the end. Our verdict: a compelling pour for the curious, a cautious bottle buy unless wood-forward finishes are your thing.
Along the way, we trade practical tips for navigating release season, from spotting value on crowded shelves to deciding when to pay up for age and when to pass. If your heart lives with classic profiles from Heaven Hill, Wild Turkey, Maker’s Mark, or Old Forester, consider this a creative detour. If you chase distinctive finishes and limited series, this might be your fall splurge. Either way, we keep it honest, grounded, and fun—because the best part of whiskey is still who you share it with.
If you enjoyed the ride, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review telling us your favorite fall release and whether you’d buy or just try the Widow Jane Vaults.
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SPEAKER_01:I can't believe you don't see any Tom Petty in that. Oh, I think it's Tom, but I think there's more than the chorus, but yeah. Anyway. Shout out to Chucky Bourbon Brothers. What is going on? It's been too long, buddy. Nor did I didn't even know I heard this band. And it's kind of cool, and I looked the guy up and one more time. Who is it? Role Model. Role Model is the name of the band. Yeah. That is a horrible band name. Alright, well, I'm gonna listen to some other songs too. See if see if he started as a rapper.
SPEAKER_00:That's what I thought was funny as shit.
SPEAKER_01:That also doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_00:In 2016, he actually released a rap album.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, well, I'm after that, I need a drink.
SPEAKER_00:Well, there we go. It worked. I guess the song choice worked.
SPEAKER_01:What has been going on with you? We both were just out of town and two very, very different trips. I did a little uh biking and hiking up in uh northern Michigan, Marquette on Lake Superior. It was perfect weather, spectacular, not too hot, not too cold. And you did something completely I'll actually call it the opposite. It's definitely the opposite.
SPEAKER_00:I was outdoors, you were indoors. I I walked outdoors a couple times, but Vegas. I was in Vegas, baby. When was the last time you were there? Oh, it's been years. Uh so I have a group of guys from college that's uh when we stopped doing our foot, our fantasy football draft live when kids and everything got in the way. A few of these we a few of these guys started trying to go to Vegas and they just picked a random weekend in October to go. Um and I've been, I would say, to a few of them in the last eight or ten years, but I haven't been in probably three or four or five years.
SPEAKER_01:Which I got a little what people call FOMO. He sends a picture on Saturday morning of him with about 50 TVs in front of him because he was where he was in a sports book. That's right. And actually, we got a booth in the sports book for eight guys, two thousand dollars. It's the best all you can eat and drink all day. Yes. I'm like, dude, that just like brings me back. That is like a great. I mean, as long as guys, I mean, get stupid if you want to get stupid, uh, drink-wise or otherwise, but that's a great, like, kind of chill. We're a little, let's act a little more grown up. If guys want to get crazy after or whatever, but we're just gonna chill. It was fun. It's a little different this time.
SPEAKER_00:The one thing that was different is one thing is we stayed three nights instead of two nights, and that's a lot. Like that's a big that's a big hurdle sometimes. But we didn't show up until Thursday evening, so I worked most of the day. I took a 2 30 flight or three o'clock flight to Vegas, but with the time change, you're there before dinner. So it was a good move. We went downtown. We always go downtown the first night. We always enjoy ourselves down there going to all the the old uh binions and D casino and all the old ones where it's reasonable priced, and it's just I just enjoy that area. And then what we another thing we did for the first time is we played golf Friday morning. So we all expensive play golf in Vegas. Yes, it depends how close to the strip. Uh we were within 20 minutes, so it was not cheap. Um, but we played golf and then Friday we just kind of you know, gamble, mess around, and then Saturday's our sports book day. We went to Westfield, we went to the uh uh that's called the Super Book in Westfield. I think it's Westfield. West something. Anyway, it's over yeah, it's over by. It's a really good deal. Really good deal. All day we were there, and then we go, you know, we have dinners reserved now. We we're older now, man. So it's not we actually have reservations for dinners two of the three nights, and it's a good time. I we made, you know, the best part for me was not only hanging out with all my buddies from college and and and then when I first moved to Chicago, but also um, you know, coming home with a few bucks in your pocket, so not a bad idea.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, if you can that that used to always be the uh in your twenties trip, like you either came home double broke or you came home like, hey, I just went to Vegas for free, is what we used to say.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Uh you paid for your room, you paid for your flight, and maybe I think we do so many expensive things now with golf and the nice dinners and stuff, it's hard to pay for your trip. Like you have to be up thousands of dollars now.
SPEAKER_01:Right, but now that you're older and you have more, you should be betting bigger. So now your losses would be bigger, but your gains are bigger. So you just or it depends on the number of bets.
SPEAKER_00:So I still do a lot of bets. I told you I did 22, 22 college football bets on Saturday.
SPEAKER_01:I used to, when I would go, I would just belly up at either craps or blackjack. And I would, it didn't make for a very good hangover, but I would just order, I'd be like, Can I get a strawberry daiquiri? And they'd be like, sure. And they'd be like, You want another one? I'd be like, uh, no, I'm gonna have uh makers and coke. And they'd be like, Okay, you want another one? I was like, no, I'll have a Miller Light. And I would just like, my friends are like, What are you gonna get next? I'm like, You have no idea.
SPEAKER_02:I'm getting a white Russian, yes.
SPEAKER_01:The guys the guys I was with got white Russians. As they're sitting there so long, you're like, you gotta mix this up.
SPEAKER_00:It's like watching games, getting it. Oh, the Bailey and coffees. I don't do coffee, but there's a lot of those. I mean, we're we're all older now. It's like we don't midnight comes and at two in the morning, Vegas time for us, you know, that or two in the morning our time in Vegas is early because we still get up early. It was kind of like, you know, I'm still, I mean, I'm not getting up at you know, four in the morning there, but uh, you know, on work days that my phone's ringing by six.
SPEAKER_01:See, yeah, that's why the hiking trip was early to bed, early to rise, get up, get up with the sunshine. So did you hike and ride a bike? Or did you just we 28 mile ride uh three different hikes that probably totaled about 10 miles? Sweet. So nothing too crazy, but um Did you get on the water or is it too cold this time of year? Lake Superior, unlike our Lake Michigan, never I'm told it never gets warmer than 55 degrees, and that's actually about what it felt because you're so it's so big, and you're so much of it is so far north, and it just doesn't. We're pretty lucky with uh with Lake Michigan getting into the uh and it tops out at this in the in the 70s 70s. Oh, that's awesome. I had no idea. Um, we're gonna start a new little uh corner of our podcast to um what are we gonna call it, Tony?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. I I mean what's new for you and bourbon, Mike? Should we call it like whiskey news? Uh we call it whiskey news or yeah, we get like you know, what's going on today in whiskey for us? Because honestly, it's probably what we focus on.
SPEAKER_01:So what our well it might be too geeky for listeners, but um, I want to always say that bourbon and banter is a really great uh not only website, but email that comes out. They don't really like bury you in emails, it's probably like one or two a week. Um, and it reminded me we're gonna go next year when we're talking about our trips, but yeah, um the Kentucky Bourbon Festival, which is like the everything for enthusiasts of all things whiskey, was um not last weekend, but the weekend before. So it's usually in end of September. Um so they had 7,000 people come out, and like all these places are pouring and all these different bands, and it's over, I think, three days. So um we're talking trips and guy trips and whatever. Uh getting out there and getting to Louisville for uh Kentucky Bourbon Festival. You gotta book early because like rooms fill up.
SPEAKER_00:I think that's the hardest part is gonna be the rooms. I mean, I think getting in there and getting tickets and seeing who we want to see and you know, knowing who we know. I I'm not I think it's the hotels are gonna be the toughest part. Well, I mean, that is.
SPEAKER_01:But if you if we use your private jet to get there, we could just kind of fly in for the day and then fly out to Chicago.
SPEAKER_00:If we if I actually had one of those, we would do a lot more stuff like that. Because you're paying anyway. You're paying anyway.
SPEAKER_01:Paying one way or the other.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, I mean I you know, I was just kind of thinking about October with bourbon, and it's the uh time of year when we start getting the information on the Buffalo Trace antique collection, what's gonna, you know, what the proofs, number of bottles, you know, all of that jet.
SPEAKER_01:September, October is big for releases. Big release.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the Pappy collection comes out now. You know, I'm I'm a big fan, or I know we are a big fans of King of Kentucky, and they typically release their new version every year in October. So this is a big, this is a big time of year when even if it's not released out for us to get yet, they you start hearing about what it's gonna be.
SPEAKER_01:And no matter what kind of like taster enthusiast kind of person you are, I would say this time of year is when liquor store shelves always feel more full. So if you're actually looking for something, more likely to find it. Um, if you aren't doing the research and you just want to have more options, that's the case. But also if you're like really searching out and really paying for something on social media or Facebook kind of sites, um, a lot of stuff is popping out, and people are like, hey, I got this kind of almost by accident at my liquor store for 150. You want to buy it from me for 200? And you're like, Yeah, yep, maybe 200, maybe it's worth it. Yeah, something like that, maybe you would. But other ones get real pricey. So good time of year.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, this is the time year when people start grabbing bottles. Yeah, you really start you start hearing about everything. This is the stuff where everybody, it's even the people that are not as complete whiskey geeks, they even they even know about Buffalo Trace Antique Collection, and everybody's heard of Pappy. So, you know, when you when those pop out, they seem to be make broader news.
SPEAKER_01:And even if you don't, even if you buy them and you're like, oh shoot, what did I do? I'm in trouble with the wife, they could be Christmas presents.
SPEAKER_00:They not like that, or you can flip them and then you make more money than what it takes to go to Vegas.
SPEAKER_01:Or you could just drink them and you know and enjoy it like us. Maybe you had a good first three quarters and you're gonna celebrate in the fourth quarter. That's right. Make it happen. Celebrate. Speaking of celebrating.
SPEAKER_00:Let's do it. What are we gonna drink today?
SPEAKER_01:Have you had Widow Jane before?
SPEAKER_00:I've had it, but I don't think we've done a podcast on it.
SPEAKER_01:We used to always call this the Brooklyn, New York whiskey, which they don't distill it there or make it there. Uh they source it from at least this bottle we're talking about from Kentucky, Tennessee, and Indiana. So three states coming into one bottle. Uh this is the new one of 2024, so not new new, because we're in 25, but it's called the Vaults. Yes. Uh the bottle says a collection of old and rare barrels aged 15 years. And I think Tony, you said it might be uh that's just kind of like do they average that? Because you said there's even some older stuff in there.
SPEAKER_00:I so it has to be an average because I did read that there are the blend has some 16 and 20 year juice in it. So it means it's probably got some 12-year stuff too.
SPEAKER_01:But it's all uh blends of straight bourbon whiskeys, so not like a rye blend or um something crazier, but they do say this is uh their exploration or continued exploration of wood finishes. So do you want to jump there, Tony, and tell us the wood and yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_00:So these this basque it's called the Vaults. Um, the Vaults started with Widow Jane in 2019. So the one we're drinking is their fifth expression, the 2024.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't even know that.
SPEAKER_00:And then the the new 2025th also gets released in October because this is when all like the more expensive and the people that are trying to be the premiums like to all come out together. So this year's version of Widow Jane should be out on the shelves October, November, depending on where you live. Anyway, what they do is the goal for the vaults was they were taking um, you know, not only were they getting their their blends from mostly Kentucky and Indiana and Tennessee, but then they were sourcing unique wood casks. So each one of these years have different wood casks. So the one we're drinking right now is called an Amborina wood, which is uh the formal name for Brazilian oak. Ambarana. Umbarana, maybe that's how you say it.
SPEAKER_01:I I don't know. I'm just guessing.
SPEAKER_00:But anyway, it's Brazilian oak to me because that's easier to say.
SPEAKER_01:Brazilian oak. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It grows in southeast Brazil, North Argentina. All their barrels. That's what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01:That this is dumped in left in left in Brazilian oak barrels for 15 years.
SPEAKER_00:No, remember, this is all sourced booze. That's just the second casting. So they're not telling us how long.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say that would taste so fucking different after 15 years. So a charred American white oak, making it a bourbon, and then from there to do you know how long in these?
SPEAKER_00:They did not say how long. Um it just didn't. So that's their less than a year. It has to be, it's usually even quicker than that. Um, but I mean, this this particular uh batch I was told had 24,000 bottles. So that sounds like a lot, but not really. That's not that many barrels, honestly.
SPEAKER_01:No, but they have they have their uh little Jane or whatever they've got baby Jane and they've got a lot of widow Jane stuff. Yeah, so this is just 22 of this.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. This is their special vault stuff. But I mean that's and that's why it's so expensive. I don't know if we said that, but the MSRP on this is 250 bucks.
SPEAKER_01:Did you guys hear that? 250. Crazy. Um, I think that was uh something that they had done before. Uh so Heaven Hill um acquired kind of like a spirits lineup in I think 22. Um, for all the tequila people out there, part of that was Ocho tequila. So I feel like this Ocho for sure. Yeah. Um, and a few other brands. There was a gin in there, uh, few whiskey, which is actually out of Evanston, Illinois. Um leave it to Heaven Hill to buy these bottles, and now you see them a ton more. Yeah, Ocho is fucking everywhere.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, and maybe, I mean, who knows?
SPEAKER_01:I and you said you see this a lot.
SPEAKER_00:I do see this. I do see these vaults. I mean, they're expensive, and I think that's why they sit on shelves. It's it's hard for people to go buy$200 and$250 bottles of bourbon.
SPEAKER_01:This was a this was a gift for Tony. What a big one. It was. How about that?
SPEAKER_00:How about that? But the head distiller blender, her name is Sienna. You want to help me with her last name? It's um Jerverovich, Ververovich or something. It's really hard. J-E-V R-E-N-O-V. And she is uh she's supposed she's supposed to be one of the best blenders in the industry. And um there's there was always some talk that when um Heaven Hill purchased this line, they really wanted her too. Like that was an important part of this of this business decision because of how good she is.
SPEAKER_01:Female master.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_01:Um all right, we done on uh on stats. Are we drinking this?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think we should try it. I mean, there's always stuff to talk about, but I mean I think we should try it.
SPEAKER_01:A few other things on the bottle. 99 proof. This one's batch two, bottle 1205, release 2024. None of that totally well, the 2024 matters, but um, I'm guessing um the Brazilian uh oak is really gonna create a standout that from one batch to the other is not gonna create a huge difference. But um important notes are 15 years, 99 proof and ouch, uh 250 bucks.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and I think some of the previous year vaults aren't as old. Like I think I know the 2023 was also 15 year old, but I feel like they were like 14 years or 13 years. I remember seeing some of these in other places that were less years, but I've never seen anything more than 15 years.
SPEAKER_01:And less price.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, yeah, but I still think they were 200 bucks. I think it was expensive. I mean, but and they do this. Widow Jane has this one called the Opal, which is also crazy expensive, and I don't really know a lot about it, but I think that might be their highest offering.
SPEAKER_01:They've kind of gone. I remember they were like opened at 99, and that was like going on 10 years, 99, and that was like 10 years ago, and they've kind of just been that newer line that got bought and then now got bought again, and they're they just kind of keep it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean I feel like we have three or four bottles in the other room of of different types of theirs, not the vaults. Did we cheers already? We chairs, but we're gonna do it again because we started talking. Sorry. What do you think of the uh what do you think of the smell here?
SPEAKER_01:It's uh that Brazilian's throwing me off. It's like I I'd start with like kind of a toasty Yeah, to me it's like a dried fruit, for sure. A good sweetness, a great sweetness. And I'm not gonna take credit for this one, but it's got kind of a like a liqueur smell. And um I read somewhere someone uh quoted it as it wasn't their number one note, so I'm not like really stealing it, but they talked about amaretto, which is kind of like syrupy sweet, like add it to other drinks.
SPEAKER_00:It's not I feel like it's got a little bit like a dark chocolate almost. Maybe that's the same. I feel like a lot of those liqueurs have like a chocolate undertones.
SPEAKER_01:Does the 99 proof kind of burn you a little bit on the nose?
SPEAKER_00:It definitely smells more than 99 proof, if you really.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe I'm getting in there too far.
SPEAKER_00:Burn it and all that nose hair. Burn it! Alright, let's taste this. Let's taste it. Spicier than I expected.
SPEAKER_01:Not crazy spicy, you know.
SPEAKER_00:For a 99 proof, it was a little big. Like the baking spices there. Great finish. Long.
SPEAKER_01:Sweet. Um, yeah, I mean uh nutty. I got a little nutty on it. Nutty? Yeah, I think. Can you kind of tell there's Tennessee in here?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think that's earthy. There's some earth in this.
SPEAKER_01:Um and maybe even the Indiana is M uh MGP, which usually is where I get nuttiness. I wouldn't say it burns it, it's got a little cinnamon.
SPEAKER_00:Um, Kentucky hug with this one.
SPEAKER_01:It's not like a ripe fruit, it's kind of like raisiny.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that's good. Raisiny.
SPEAKER_01:Sweet, like it's got I mean, raisins are sweet.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:But they're not like forward like candy sweet, like a like an MM or something, like straight up sugar. That's what I'm getting. Um, and I don't I feel like a lot of that is it kind of fades into a bad palette for me.
SPEAKER_00:It lasts so long. I think the palate's so long that it just goes to a spice instead of like flavoring at the very end.
SPEAKER_01:And it's all I feel like it's all that Brazilian. If this was just a straight up 15-year Indiana, Tennessee, Kentucky without the Brazilian, wouldn't you think this would taste way different?
SPEAKER_00:For sure. 100%.
SPEAKER_01:Like the Brazilian oak is coming through, how do I say it? Like like too much. And I'm surprised that she's like the blender, mass master blender, and master distiller, and this is how she left 15 year juice, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I mean it's it's got like um it's a very full like I don't know, it's very full heart uh rich aroma. You know what I mean? It's like a rich like that that wood wood finish.
SPEAKER_01:It's like it those wood finishes are kind of reminds you. Yeah, different um um different wine expressions, like the wood finish takes fucking over. And that's what I feel like. I think there is at the end of this. I feel like this did. And I want to like this so much. I don't want to like the price. I'm happy I don't love it because it's 250, but it's like everything we were talking about before, like I kind of went in blind on this, and I'm like, oh, this is I feel like I wish this was better.
SPEAKER_00:I feel like it's got a little bit when you drink it, but right after the taste, right when you first get your taste, it's got a little sweetness that pops, and then this and then the spice just takes over and has this really nice long finish, but almost to the point where it's too long. Um it doesn't change anymore. It's like it's once it gets to this long finish, it just stays the same. And there's no more comp no more flavors I'm getting at the end. And does that make sense?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's it's kind of like to me, um the the pop in the beginning is like a sweet, sugary. Um I still go with the amaretto, but go with like a like an like an old-fashioned. Yeah, old fashioned has a lot of sugar in it. Sweetness pop. You usually you you you can use a rye, but usually use a sweet, and you get that pop, and then you kind of get all that bitter and everything else that's in the old fashioned afterward. Maybe the orange, maybe the cherry, whatever. This is just kind of like it it pops early with sweetness, and then all of a sudden it kind of like fades away into something.
SPEAKER_00:It's almost like a caramel pops at the beginning, and then it gets real nutty and never comes back.
SPEAKER_01:But it never gets it doesn't stay as good as it starts, and it almost continues to get worse.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think that's just that long finish.
SPEAKER_01:So when we're talking about like if your taste or whatever is five, ten, fifteen seconds long. I like like the first two seconds. Yeah. And then three and four and five aren't bad, but as it like the seconds tick out, I'm like, ooh, I don't really.
SPEAKER_00:I want to try, I want I want other guys in the club here to try this. I want to get their opinions because mine are is definitely sideways on this. I feel like I I like the smell, but boy, look how dark it is. It has to be part of that Brazilian wood. I'm just staring at the bottle as I'm talking here.
SPEAKER_01:So it actually looks, I mean, it's on a black table, but it's I mean, no, dude, it's it's it's dark. It's deep. What do they call it's uh yeah, they call it a dark bronze.
SPEAKER_00:Do they really? Yeah, it just no longer. To me, it's a really dark brown. It reminds me, you know, when I do my with work, when people, when you have some like that old cherry and walnut and in this Brazilian wood, when you try to stain it, it always goes dark. And that's kind of like what I'm thinking here is it's it goes dark. It's like being stained by the window.
SPEAKER_01:And and it's and it's it's 15 years old. So that's always always gonna be darker because it's I like I like this.
SPEAKER_00:I just don't think I like it anywhere near enough for 250 bucks. So for me, if we're getting into the separating, is it shareable? Not only is it shareable, but I really am gonna keep this out on the bar here, and I'd like to have some other people's uh thoughts of this just to see if I'm missing something. Because maybe I'm just expecting so much more because of the price. I wish maybe if I didn't tell people how much it cost, I'd like it more. Uh, influence for me is is sideways. I think it's cool that there's other people doing stuff around. Um, but to me it's just a blend. It could be, it can be this can be from anywhere as long as they're this is they're buying good juice. You buy good juice, you put stuff together, and then the price is horrible. I hate spending that. What kind of money?
SPEAKER_01:I would say um that was great. Um I've noticed I've in the last year kind of become more of a there's so much whiskey out there. Kind of, I I guess I would say like a purist, um, in the way of sticking to Heaven Hills and wild turkeys and um stuff that's kind of uh maker's mark different different expressions and stuff like that. Um, I don't need this going out on a far limb um to try something that tastes very, very different. Uh and that's what that's what this is. But a lot of people want to go out on that limb because they're like, did you just say you just want to drink wild turkey, Mike? Okay. Fuck off. I want to try other stuff. Okay, me me too. Yeah, let's get an old forester that does it right. Um, I just think that this is a little that they stretched a little too far on this uh for my liking. So um, but I'm with you. Want to share it. Um influence. I think I think Widow Jane's pretty cool. I used to call it a New York whiskey and uh in that way kind of talked down about it.
SPEAKER_00:Hudson Bay. Hudson Bay was always like one of those ones. I never was another one. Remember those ones everybody always talked about, but I I don't know a lot about kind of a little bottle.
SPEAKER_01:Squatty bottle, yeah. The little uh wax on the top. Uh and price just kind of it's just tough. Half price half that price would be would be a lot. But I get it. They paid up sourced expensive for a 15-year blend, yeah, which spent 15 expensive years in a barrel. Um and whiskey ain't going away. There's a lot of it right now, but they're they're selling it. Um, but they paid up for this and they needed to make their money back, so I think 250 is a lot. But um my rating is I'm gonna go with a flat three.
SPEAKER_00:Flat three.
SPEAKER_01:I think they they did a lot and I appreciate everything they did, but it's not gonna really, it's above average, it's a fun try. Some people might absolutely fall in love with it, and you'll be, you know, four bottles for a G.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So if that's what you're gonna drink all the time, it's gonna get a little pricey. But uh a lot of whiskey is pricey.
SPEAKER_00:So that's yeah, it is. I mean, the price is the price nowadays. Uh the good news on this price is that it there is no price, it was a gift. So uh when you look at it that way, it's a best way to get bourbon.
SPEAKER_01:Should we give our address to any listeners that are wanting to gift?
SPEAKER_00:Gift us bourbon. Uh no, not open bottles, please.
SPEAKER_01:PO PO box 4629.
SPEAKER_00:But no, I would say my sip rating would be a hair higher than yours. I actually do like it. I just wish it had something else at the end. So I was gonna be closer to three and a quarter. Okay. And uh that's you know, kind of where I'm at.
SPEAKER_01:I just kind of got sick of thinking. Yeah. So I just threw out three because I'm like, you know what? It's not in the twos. It's definitely not a two. It's not in the fours. No. And I don't really love it, so I'm gonna go with the bottom of the threes, which is three.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I think unfortunately, that's probably not gonna make people run out and get it. But at the same time, at the same time, if you're close to our bourbon hot here, I'd love to have you try it. I'd like to get some other opinions on this, just especially if people don't know the price up front. I would like to see some opinions.
SPEAKER_01:Super fun pour at a at a bar. For sure. Go to one of your favorite whiskey bars. This is pretty, I mean, only 22 or 24,000 bottles, you said. Yeah. Um, so maybe certain states it's gonna be impossible, but if you see it and it should be a reasonable pour.
SPEAKER_00:This is one that I want our our guy Austin comes in here. I want him to try this one. I think this is something he might really want all our guys to try. I know, but him specifically, because he's always kind of looking for some stuff, and I feel like this might be something up his alley compared to some of the stuff he does.
SPEAKER_01:And that's what I'm saying. This could be crazy up someone's alley, and then like, oh, worth every penny. Right. Um, I just kind of like I'm I I'm kind of having a 2025 purist year where I just want like I'm like, I just love makers market and everybody's like, on the rocks? I'm like, yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes I don't want to in an old fashioned for sure.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:But hey, I got us going out with uh a song that you sent me. It's by uh Hannah Dasher. Uh we're going back to country because you didn't like my first choice.
SPEAKER_01:And this is oh, yeah, because uh our our buddy Jared, Jared Allen, and uh Fred Minnick started um their new podcast, and she was on it.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, talking about conspiracies.
SPEAKER_01:And uh take a note, take a quick note, uh, another podcast, which is pretty funny. It's not all whiskey. They do conspira conspiracy theory, they talk about like they do football.
SPEAKER_00:No, they talk about like doctor shit, like crazy things that are going on.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, how how you can better your health and whatever. Anyway, Dr.
SPEAKER_00:Allen will answer shit for you.
SPEAKER_01:Pretty goofy and funny. It's called Fourth and Neat. Uh, kind of like football player and whiskey guy come together, fourth and neat. So check that out. I think they're on their fourth episode. They just started, yeah. It's pretty good. But this girl was on that, long story short.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, cool. All right, well, let's go out with her. It's uh it's it's another beautiful day in Chicago. We've had a great fall, and let's uh let's do this again here soon, Mike.
SPEAKER_01:Good to see you, Tony. Hey guys, widow Jane, the vault's uh 15 year 2024 release. You got a few extra bucks in your pocket? Go get it. Ooh, little twang.
SPEAKER_02:I did send you the freaking a little like more of a dolly, right?
SPEAKER_01:She's new.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah, she's definitely got the dolly.
SPEAKER_01:This is like my purest, like she's she's just going back to the old basics, like Dolly. Which there's like Megan Maroni and other country people that are like they don't have this. Like, where's she from? 100% national.
SPEAKER_00:Stop talking about brothers like actually, if I remember right, from Georgia, if I remember right. But same thing, close enough. She doesn't national map.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we take care of the waste piece to. You can focus on with whom you share it. Go, Hannah.
SPEAKER_02:Rush out of Savannah. Most people call me Hannah. H to the damn to the three. No I hate for everybody, but I don't try to be. If you like the sound of that, you're gonna love me. You say what you think, but you don't think before you say If you're more inclined to buy, because it's made
