Episode 133 - Jefferson's Presidential 18 year

A bourbon can be rare, expensive, and still disappoint. That’s why we finally went for it and put Jefferson’s Presidential Select 18 Year in the glass, the kind of “unicorn bourbon” people whisper about at whiskey bars and chase at auctions. This pour is tied to Stitzel-Weller barrels, distilled in 1991, bottled at 94 proof, and loaded with the kind of backstory that makes collectors argue for hours about what’s real value and what’s just hype.

We walk through the Stitzel-Weller legacy and the Van Winkle family timeline so the label actually means something: how wheated bourbon became iconic, what changed when the distillery closed in the early ’90s, and how various brands ended up with those aging stocks. From there, we connect the dots on Jefferson’s origins as a non-distiller producer and why buying fully aged barrels in the late ’90s turned into a once-in-a-generation move. If you care about bourbon history, sourced whiskey, dusty whiskey, or the Pappy Van Winkle ecosystem, this is the context that makes the sip hit harder.

Then we taste it for real. We talk nose, palate, mouthfeel, and finish with the details that matter: sweet caramel, toffee-like sugar, raisin and wine notes, dusty mature oak, gentle wheat character, and a surprising pop of spice for a wheater. We also get honest about the “sharing problem” with bottles like this, because some whiskeys aren’t party pours, they’re life-moment pours.

If you’re into rare bourbon reviews, Jefferson’s Presidential Select, Stitzel-Weller lore, or just love a deep tasting breakdown, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a bourbon friend, and leave a review, then tell us: would you open a bottle like this or keep it sealed?

Transcript

Queen, Chills, And The Vibe

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Freddie Mercury, man.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Yeah, I mean it's it's uh podcast ago or so. I think I said like doesn't that make you smile? Like that that this just kind of if, especially in our headphones, so it's like a little clear, way more clear and pronounced. It gives you chills. You're just like, how how does someone have that tone, that sound?

SPEAKER_00 0:50

It's like did you watch his show? The show on him?

SPEAKER_01 0:54

I did.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

Really, really good.

A Rare Jefferson’s 18 Reveal

SPEAKER_01 0:58

But the actors, like the real guy doesn't look like any, they they never hit his look the right way. Right. I feel like the real guy looks uh looks nothing like the the actors, but yeah, but who the actor has to be has to be able to sing, man, because god he could sing. So a song so special like that reminds me of something as special as like Christmas morning. And I feel like that's what we're about to dive into right here.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

That's why I picked this song. I picked a classic, ridiculously good song because I know what we're having. And I'm shy, Tucky Bourbon Burr. I'm so excited because I've never had a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

I know what we're having. And today is a very, very special, rare, can we call it a rare whiskey day? A rare bourbon whiskey day.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

This is a bottle that uh, yeah, this is a bottle that that that goes to sale at auctions.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

That bottle is uh it's called Jefferson's. You can still find Jefferson's on the shelf at nearly every liquor store. They have uh five, six, seven, eight different lines. I think they even make a rye. But this is the Jefferson's presidential select, and then you take it further than from there that it is the 18-year-old. And I have saved this for a long time and just I haven't even opened the bottle, but I found a guy online that would send me a sample of this. And the sample of this is I think I paid about like$70 per ounce. So Tony and I each have an ounce.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

Um it's actually cool because the bottle, actually, on the back of it, I don't know if you notice this, it's got it broken down by ounce for it. So yeah, it's a cool bottle. I'm gonna save that. I'm gonna save that. That guy was really cool.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

I love I love when there's real extra nerds that when you order something online, they put all the extra work into it. Effort. All the extra effort. A for effort. So um Jefferson's presidential presidential select, 18-year-old. On the label, it says batch 14, which matters to the nerds, bottle number 1698. It says distilled from wheat in the fall of 1991, aged in, and here it is, Stitzel Weller barrels. Yeah, crazy. 94 proof. Uh this is the first time I'm ever having this. And when we get down the road to this, probably being, I don't know, uh$2,000 uh if you could find it online bottle, probably plus, uh, I think you'll start to understand where if it is that really great special Christmas morning, that's why I'm coming back to that uh bottle. Uh if you're crazy into whiskey and again, we'll get into it because I haven't even tasted it yet.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

Yeah, I haven't either.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

And this so there's some fanfare behind it.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

What I found on the uh market value stuff is that the batches, like the first batches, like the one through seven, they're not going for as much as the later batches are. And I think the last batch was batch 27, but don't hold me to that. Um, anyway, they're they're going your your bottle there's probably worth two grand, somewhere in the eighteen hundred to two thousand dollar range.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

So and maybe more because it's in such good shape with the wax. And if you put that to auction, you might get more. That's a really pretty bottle.

Why Stitzel Weller Is Legend

SPEAKER_01 4:22

I don't think I'm ever gonna do that. At least I hope to never do that based on I've got this sample for us because I want to try it, and I really am hopeful that I we like it. Um, but if we don't, I'm gonna crack that bottle open and be like, you know what, it's not worth that to me. Um, but I'm never gonna sell it either way. Uh, but back to the important part, which is aged in stitzel weller barrels. So Tony, I try I I asked him guys to really put this in a quick few words because it gets complicated, but it involves Mr. Julian Van Winkle, uh, Mr. Pappy, and um my piece of this is that uh Jefferson when they opened in 96-97. Again, this was distilled in 91, and it's an 18 year, so it was in there from 91 plus 18 years. What's the math, Tony?

SPEAKER_00 5:20

2009. Yes, I can do that. I've been looking it off this paperwork, trying to figure out how to how to tell you uh how everything gets put together in quick. Like this is a test. It is because this is really difficult because what people don't realize is that Stitzelweller it was was more or less formed by Pappy Van Winkle Sr. Not the Julian Van Winkle that has the book that we all talk about that that has the Pappy. This is the senior, the original. His dad. His dad actually put the two companies together in 1935. Okay. Okay, so what's really crazy is that this is it's not really a story of of it's it's really like a story of one family, two distilleries, uh uh, you know, a company closing, and then the handoff to Buffalo Trace. I mean, that's really what this comes down to. But it happens over, I don't know, from 1935 till present. So for the last 90 years.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

But this is but this is a weeded bourbon, and back to 1935, that's what that's what they did. So yes, way, way before anyone used wheat and way before it was even popular.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

For sure. I mean, the the two families, I mean, the two families were Mr. was was Weller, right? And Stitzel. Those are the two families. I mean, that's what they're known for, is they're they're no they're known for their for their uh weeded bourbons. I mean, they're the founders of weeded bourbons, and that's what we have here.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

Okay, so 35, they start, they have their uh place in Kentucky. Yes, and then what's the next again in the way of time? What's the next thing that happens to Stitzel Weller?

SPEAKER_00 7:01

So, okay, so Papi Mewinkle Sr. originally made Stitzel Weller in 1935. Bam. Right? It closes in 1992.

SPEAKER_01 7:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

All right. This was distilled in 1991. Okay. We're just that's right.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

We snuck in one of their bottles.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

A lot of people say that this particular bottle is one of the last. Nobody, everybody likes to claim they're the last of to be distilled, but this is definitely one of the last. Period. Okay. All right. After the closure, Julian Van Winkle, all right, Pappy Senior's son, who we all know, he kept one brand, one brand, which is Pappy Van Winkle. He kept that brand. All the other brands sat in Stitzelweller's warehouse and they sold them to companies that wanted to buy them. Oh they sold these old barrels.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

That would be Rebel Yell and Cabin Still and Jefferson's and old fits.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

All of that. Got it. So that's what happened is these sat there and there was no distillery. So there was nothing being 1992, bad time for whiskey.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad time. So they sold it all off.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

So then they were selling it off. So in 1997, Jefferson's comes along, and uh, what's the guy's name? Zo Zoller, the guy that master distiller.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

It was a father-son team, um, and I had it as I think like a Tyler, and uh it was it was a father-son. Keep going.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

All right, anyway. So the Jefferson brand was founded in 1997, and they their first thing, yeah, Trey Zoller and his father, Chet Zoller.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

They were um super smart guys that decided to open a brand and go buy barrels, like a lot of people are doing today for a lot more money. And they're like, why don't we knock on the door of that stitzel place?

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Well, they did, and that's they actually, when they first started their their short, the short answer is Jefferson didn't distill anything in 1997. All they did they launched this uh the series called the Non-Distiller Producer, and they bought fully aged Kentucky bourbon barrels from large distilleries that were selling off excess excess stock, Stitzel Weller being one of them. There was others, Bernheim was part of it, Buffalo Trace was part of it. They bought them all and they had different brands, they had different names, different labeling. It was all said Jefferson's, but it said part of their non-distiller production, blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

This was in Buffalo Trace. This was in the early, this was the early uh LaRue Weller.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

Yes. Yes. So he bought all these things, he started putting stuff to market, he held a bunch of good ones. This is one that he bought probably in 97, 98, who knows when he bought these, but then he saved it for 10 more years before he let it out. Kind of crazy, actually.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

So then what happened to then what the final piece was you went from 92 and then nothing was done.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

So Pappy and 2002, that's when the handoff went to Buffalo Trace, and Buffalo Trace started started then distilling new Pappy and And supposedly people say like that early Pappy uh uh O2 kind of stuff is where it was really like still made by them because they had just got bought by them and they were transferring barrels over.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

So that's I mean this I know Pappy, you know, 10, 10 year, 15 year, 23 year from back then, that's when bottles get again, you're saying like auction prices. Like you have a wait, you have a lot B from when?

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Right from the late 90s to early 2000s, like I can't remember the first year that Buffalo Trace actually distilled papies, but that's when they got the rights to it. Because I remember it coming out, like maybe it was really recently, obviously. It would have been last year, because 2002, and if they would have distilled in 2002, the first 23 year would have been 2025. And they made a big deal about that papy being the first Buffalo Trace papy. I don't know if the taste was different or not. I'm not a huge fan.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

I didn't hear people like you know having a big problem with it because I think they they slowly like kind of blended it out, usually is what they would do. I didn't, I don't really it didn't fall off a cliff.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

That's no, no, no. I I don't really chase the 20 and the 23 year. It seems to get really, really old and really okay for me. I I definitely chase the 12 and the 15 year papy. Uh I like the lot B a ton and I like the 15 year. So this this 18 year that we're getting ready to drink or getting ready to start, uh it's right there on that mark where I wonder if it's going to be a little too oaky for us. Um because it's it's 18 years, it's it's right there at the end.

How Jefferson’s Got The Barrels

SPEAKER_01 11:32

I mean we did we did say the proof is uh 94 proof, so it's it's not crazy proofed up again. Back to um a long time ago, like real high proof stuff. I mean, it's always been around, but it became popular um, I would say, in the last decade uh to maybe 15 years, uh, give or take. Um, but this is a straight up 94 proof. Let's smell it.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Yeah, let's do it. Cheers. I'm looking really forward to this.

SPEAKER_01 12:02

Back to Christmas morning.

unknown 12:04

Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

And a caramel.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

I mean, it is the the the wood is like jumping through, but it because it's 18-year-old, but it is like the greatest, still like it still has like a fresh wood like foresty smell.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

It's a sweet caramel.

SPEAKER_01 12:25

Oh, that is just so funny.

SPEAKER_00 12:27

It's like an you can smell the aged oak. It doesn't have that dusty smell though. I'd say super raisin-y.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

Again, was probably fruity, but then it turns into wine and then turns into like, yeah, I I think it has a kind of a winy uh smell to it, too.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Um it's very it's very controlled. It's not it's not all over the place. Man.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

I will say the only all over the place is give it a swirl and then take another smell, and it just it doesn't like change, like, oh now the raisins are gone. No, that's where the bourbon spice comes.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

The bourbon's coming out of it. Like when you swirl it around, I feel like I'm getting more of the alcohol.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

I'm literally sitting here like on the edge of my seat for no which I never do because I'm just sitting in a chair for no reason, because I'm like ready, ready to get into let's sit this. Let's sit this. Alright. It has that dusty, I would say, note. It's definitely on the finish. It's still very, very rich. Like there is, it's, it's, it's, it's 18 year for sure, and I will go with like a it's not just caramel, it's not just vanilla, it's kind of like a toffee, where like it almost has like a like crystally, like like extra sweetness to it, which is like c toffee for me, where it's like you chew into toffee and it kind of like, oh, it's so sugary, it's like in your teeth. Um, this doesn't just have like a oh that's like a vanilla bomb or a caramel bomb. It's like there's something a lot more to this.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

No, it's uh I mean it's it's got a lot more I would say heat or spice for a non-ry product than I was expecting because there's no rye, obviously. It's it's it still has that real creamy, creamy mouthfeel. I mean, the caramel, the light sweat sweetness. It it's got a lot of stuff in here.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

What what that flavor is that like gentle wheat though is still very much in here. Like it is not some oh my god, it's got so much oak. Oh, but it also has so much like cinnamony spicy rye. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

It's not like one of those powerhouse, it's not like one of those powerhouse 120 proofs where you're expecting something to explode and then have a bunch of flavors that come out of it. This is a very short to medium finish where you're getting the what you get at the beginning is you're just it's just continuing. It's super solid. It's got that old, that old bourbon mustiness.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

It's got that old, you know, I don't know. I mean, if you if you drink a lot of highly aged bourbons, which uh have somewhat gone away uh in the last decade because barrels and people want to put stuff out there because it's selling and they don't wait 18 years, there's not many places that do. Um this right off the bat, from a collector, collector's item expensive, it is something that would be a special sit on the shelf. Like I I don't know if I've ever tasted something like this. I'm not saying you have to have this, but if you're like, hey, we want to follow that similar age or the Stitzel Weller or whatever, you could probably find stuff that's more in like the thousand to twelve hundred range of um what did you say you have at home? Old Fitzgerald. Yeah, the old Fitz.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

I've got an old Fitz, but I don't it's it's right in that same John, right in the same time frame, this early 90s, late 80s, old Fitz. Um, and I'll I could look it up on my phone actually, but I'll do that in a minute.

Nose, Palate, And Finish Notes

SPEAKER_01 16:15

But I was just saying, like, that this this is if you're like, why would I ever spend that much? I have a ton of great whiskeys, I have a ton of great bourbons, whatever it is. Um, I don't like I would first try this at like a special bourbon whiskey bar, whatever, across around the country. But um, it's gonna be on your shelf where, and we'll get into sharing. Like, this is the hardest and highest level of sharing because there is not, you can have hundreds of bottles on your shelf and nothing is going to taste like this unless you get into that again, high-aged not a ton of brands are doing 18 plus years. Uh, we were just saying the orphan barrel they were doing 22, 23, 24 years.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Yeah, that's that's different juice though.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

But I would take this if you're if people are paying for a papy 20 or 23, 2000 bucks plus, which they are still, um, I'll take a bottle that you know was distilled in 91 and tastes like this for sure over that. Like, and and we've had papies, and the 23 is just like an oak bomb. Um, this is like that again, um, toffee-ish, uh raisin-y, uh caramel-y, little bit of cinnamon. We haven't even gotten into the finish. I just have too much to say about it. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

No, I I you know it's funny you said that old fits. It made me pull up an old some old text messages I sent with someone. I my my wife's uncle had the couple some old bottles from her dad, from his dad. And I was over at his house for a holiday, and he said, Hey, do you want any of these? And I was like, sure, let me see what you got. And he gave me an old bottle of uh old fits and another um four roses, and I got a third one.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

He sent me a text and I wasn't there and I shit myself. And I was like, Okay, time to go clean up because I can't believe your audible has these and you didn't know he had them.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

I didn't know he had, but I he gave me these bottles, so I did a ton of research, and I the bottle he had, which it really reminds me of this flavor, was a 1992 old fits, and it was the old 19.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

I mean, this it anyone want to rewind to when we sat like Pappy was done, yeah. Oh man, this is the 91, he was done in 92.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

I'm looking at these text messages from I don't know, from last June, and I'm like, oh my god, this is the same thing. Except for that was a bottled and bond, this is a little bit less. But uh the the research I did back then was that the estimate the Sitzelweller weeded mash bill at that time, nobody ever nobody will um publish like exact percentages. So the industry, what they've come up with is that the corn was between 70 and 75 percent. Well, good detail here. The wheat yeah, the wheat was between 15 and 20 percent, and the malted barley was between five and ten percent. And that's like the old old Fitzgerald's, the old WL Wellers, the old Pappy Van. Yes. So that was the that was their mash bill, the Stitzel Weller's special mash bill was always in those ranges. So that's about where we're we're at, I think.

unknown 19:18

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

Okay, so sorry. Uh no, I got George Johnny. Sorry, that's exactly what I think everyone wanted to hear. Uh, and I'm glad that we uh covered the details of Stitzel Weller.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Did you know they made a 21 year of this?

SPEAKER_01 19:35

Uh yes, and I and it's now it's worth about half this. Like it literally and they made a 17 year 17 year can go for like three grand because 17 was like the sweet spot. 18's almost as good. And then I mean to like literally.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

I heard there were three of them 17, 18, and 21.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

It's like the rookie card is 17. This is like the All-Star cards exactly, and then the 20 is like the Hall of Fame card. Who cares? You had a few bad years totally. Um, so let's get into uh SIP method. Sit method. Uh I've already covered some of it. I mean, shareable this is nearly impossible to share. And it means if it means a lot to you and you like it as much as we do, it's kind of like this is a this is a Christmas. This is this might not even be a Christmas, this might be an anniversary, this might be a kid's college, but I think, and I'm gonna go on record that this is so far up there and good enough, hopefully, for you and your family on those crazy special days. So shareable, no uh influence. I just love I've always liked the Jefferson brand um to start the Stitzel brand and the Weller brand and the Pappy brand and the Buffalo Trace brand. It for me, it starts with that father-son team that were really smart enough when they started in uh 96-97 to buy this, and then it just became they probably didn't make a whole ton of money on it, but they probably were happy to get it sold because those were tough times. Yeah, then you know, so many decades later, everyone's just fucking loving it. So um, yeah, huge. I don't even know if you can talk about the price because it's not it's like non-existent. You can't find it exactly unicorn, exactly unicorn. So price is like, so I think it's going three for three.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

Nice for me. Shareable. No, you can't share this. Like, if you get one of these bottles, you you better keep this for a special occasion for just like Mike said, this is a this is a having a baby bottle. This is a this is getting married bottle, this is a having your kid graduate college or do some other crazy thing. I don't know. This is a crazy bottle. Um, influence to me, Jefferson's. I I've always been a fan of Jefferson's. I think Jefferson's that their brand identity has always been like an experimental first brand. You know, the father son group, their team, I guess. That's not a group that Mike was talking about. They've they've been very creative with their ways of like changing their branding identity from like heat and humidity to the oceans brand, that oceans movement. They've done just a really good job of keeping Jeffersons alive and having some different options. And then on top of it, producing some really good whiskey in there. I mean, we've we've had some, what was it? Was it the small batch select or something that came out like five years ago that they put out of nowhere? And it was like it came out to be like the top five.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

I think oceans was they're kind of like, oh, we put it on ships and it sloshes around at sea and whatever. That never got me. But yeah, that small batch select was like kaboom, whole.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

I mean, they just have done a really, really good job. So influence for me for a company that's only been around for 30 years, is they they've done a lot in 30 years. Uh, price to me is this isn't a price. This is a this is a unicorn. This is this is not for everyone. This is for somebody that is looking to collect a bottle that is gonna gain it. This bottle or the 17 year is are going to continually increase in value. This is like buying a baseball card, you are buying you know something that you just you want to have to show off that you know is gonna increase in value. Hopefully, like your house, since I just moved a few weeks ago.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Hopefully, hopefully the housing market holds, but I think personally I think it will. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

Um that matters more for your two.

Sharing Rules, Value, And Ratings

SPEAKER_01 23:22

I'm gonna take the five-point scale a little differently. Here's what I'm gonna say. I think, and again, we always say, if you don't like something, give it a zero. If something's not hitting for you, give it a zero. If you like something that no one else likes, give it a five. Whatever, great. What I will say, and I'm gonna get a little more specific here, is you can't. It's hard to say because everyone is their own individual. You can't give this like a zero or a one or a two or even a three. I think this is there are there's some specifics to it that range between four and five. There I said it. Four is a huge number from our hundred and plus podcasts, but I think this is you're either like not my thing, but the balance, the flavor, the finish, the proof, the history, all the things we talk about, no matter what really like something has to stand out to you. Maybe four is a stretch. Maybe that's where people will be like, okay, you really went overboard, but that's maybe kind of what I wanted to do. Um, am I giving it a five? I just can't, I can't do that because um it does have so much 18-year oak. Um, but this in original form in like the 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, I kind of feel like that 17 is why it's like holy shit, other things take over, like a lot of Buffalo Trace and King of Kentucky products do where you're like, there is so much to talk about. You want to talk about the fruit, you want to talk about the breadiness of it, you want to talk about um viscosity. Do you want to talk about just anything about it? And it's like you can't squeeze it all into one podcast. This has a lot of oak flavor. I love that raisin y, uh dusty, uh old, all those old notes, but for me, it is a four and a half.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Wow, that's a big number. I don't know if you've ever you we haven't given many four and a halves. I uh I don't know if necessarily I think that that's a wrong number. Um you can go under four and completely disprove what I just said.

SPEAKER_01 25:45

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

I think it's the same. I think every it's like you said, everybody's got their own thing. This this is a very, very good bourbon. I I actually really thoroughly enjoy this. I I I I just it's hard. Four and a half to me is uh it's that's like the King of Kentucky level, and that might be where you're at in your head. I you know, I never like to go too much higher than four and a half. I mean, if I get a four seven five, it's probably the best bourbon I've ever had, and I still leave myself room for something better because they're still always making new shit. Check the notes. Have you given a four seven five? No, I have not. I think four five is what I gave the King of Kentucky, which I'm gonna give this one a four and a quarter because of it.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

I like that number a lot.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

I almost went there, but like I I think, I think I have to go back and look at my notes, but I'm pretty sure four and a quarter is what I has is the highest, or four and a half is the highest I've ever given.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

Yeah, there's there's for sure with me uh some added with all the other stuff that it covers. There's some nostalgia there. My uh nerd alert bourbon mentor back in the day, going back probably 14 years, was crazy into these and like stuff you can't find and stuff that doesn't exist anymore, and how well it was made, and the craftsmanship of it, and all that kind of stuff. So for me, this doesn't come off too oaky or too dry, or all those things. It come, it comes off as almost a perfect uh bourbon whiskey. So, anyway.

Final Verdict And Music Outro

SPEAKER_00 27:09

I love it. It's been a great, great podcast. You know what? We're not what we're going out with. You know, we ended, we started with Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Such a great how can you know what you know queen then this bottle? I mean, your go-out, this has to be your hardest one ever.

SPEAKER_00 27:23

You know what you do? You just go right back into Bohemian Rhapsody when it gets going well, when it gets moving.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Right here. Wow, what this is when it starts. This is how we're ending. Well played. Tony and Mike and Galileo. Shy Tucky Burton Brothers, Mike and Tony. We take care of the whiskey so you can focus on with whom you share it. I mean, I I also feel great after this. I mean, wow, what a great four. Jefferson's presidential select, the 18-year-old. Great one, dude. Great one. You killed the music. Thanks for getting a bottle. You killed your four and a quarter. I probably went a little maybe too high, some are gonna say. And they'll they'll cut me down to size, and I'll be a little bit more careful this time or next time because to me this was fucking great. All right. I'm gonna let this tongue play out.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Go, go, go!