As I Live and Grieve®
It’s time for grief to come out of the basement, or wherever we have stuffed it to avoid talking about it. When you suffer a loss you need support, comfort, and a safe place to heal. What you are experiencing is painful but normal, unique but similar, surreal but very, very real. As grief advocates we understand and want to provide support, knowledge and comfort as you continue to live and grieve. Host, Kathy Gleason; Producer, Kelly Keck. www.asiliveandgrieve.com
As I Live and Grieve®
Messy Can't Stop Her
What happens when life's most profound losses lead to unexpected growth? Join us as we sit down with Judith Kambia Obatusa, affectionately known as JKO, to explore her incredible journey through grief and resilience. Having experienced the unimaginable with the loss of her children and sister, JKO shares how her Nigerian-Canadian heritage and the memory of her father continue to shape her mission of empowering women. She will inspire you with her commitment to finding joy and purpose amidst heartbreak.
Our conversation takes a heart-wrenching yet hopeful turn as we discuss the impact of losing a child on one's faith. Grief is a deeply personal journey, and JKO reminds us of the importance of embracing it fully. We talk about the healing power of community support, the significance of cherishing earthly relationships, and the vital role of a personal connection with a higher power. As we introduce JKO's podcast, "Messy Can't Stop Her," our discussion emphasizes the need for mothers to heal for the sake of their children and the world. We conclude with a heartfelt prayer, offering guidance and solace to listeners navigating their own paths through grief.
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Welcome to as I Live and Grieve, a podcast that tells the truth about how hard this is. We're glad you joined us today. We know how hard it is to lose someone you love and how well-intentioned friends and family try so hard to comfort us. We created this podcast to provide you with comfort, knowledge and support. We are grief advocates, not professionals, not licensed therapists. We are you.
Speaker 2:Hi everyone. Welcome back again to another episode of as I Live in Grief. I know you always hear me say I have a great guest, but I mean it. All my guests are great and today's guest is no exception. She has asked me to call her JKO. I'm going to let her share the rest of the details with you, hi, and welcome Thanks for joining me. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3:Kathy, Such a privilege to be here. So my name is Judith Kambia Obatusa. Kambia is my maiden name, and I added it to my podcast, my books and things I do to honor my father's memory. I'm his firstborn and my father was an amazing dad, so JKO is Judith Cambia Obertusa, and I'm really, really grateful for this opportunity.
Speaker 2:Well, it's my privilege to have you and I have to tell you, first of all, I am enthralled by your accent, Absolutely mesmerized. I would listen to you all day long. I just love your voice and your accent. Now, having said that, I want to listen to you talk some more. So would you tell our guests a little bit of your background, a little bit of your story?
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm going to start with the accent. I'm Nigerian-Canadian and Nigeria has many, many cultures, many tribes and actually inside Nigeria I don't have an accent, because if you come from different parts of Nigeria there are accents that we can use to recognize that you're from that place where you speak. But here I hear that I have an accent and I think here they call it the Nigerian accent, because even my children make more fun of the way we talk. So that's where I'm from. I live in Canada. I live on the unceded territories of the Kwikwemlum First Nation and I am so privileged that here in British Columbia, canada, we recognize that this land was lived on by people before us and we are so grateful that they've kept it. I live in one of the most beautiful parts of the world. If you've heard of British Columbia, we have the Rockies, we have different places that are so beautiful world heritage sites, and people kept this place, they protected this land, they valued this land and I'm really privileged that I get this opportunity to be here. I am a communications person, but my biggest passion is to help women women to be their best, to need their best, to leave the legacy of growth, legacy of joy for their children rather than the legacy of misery which we carry. We don't deal with the issues that affect us.
Speaker 3:I'm also a mother. Of God blessed me with five great nations, two twins, a pair of twins. Well and um, sad to say, my twins are gone. My first twin died when they were 10 weeks old and my second twin actually died when they were 10 weeks old. And my first twin, my first born, very precious to me, died two months to her 25th birthday, on august 1, 2023.
Speaker 3:It's a grief, that it's a grief, that's. You know, when I've lost her sister, I never really grieved like I grieve now, because I had to take care of her. She was the one I looked at, she was the one who comforted me, she was the one who didn't allow me to know to grieve as much. So losing her was like losing two children at once, and that is my journey. And, sadly, as I lost my sister, my very close sister, I mean, as I lost my daughter on august 1, I lost my sister, my prayer partner, a sister that loved me so much. Well, we're only living. We're only living from my mother's children, because my mother died when I was sixth and I'm the first born, so you can imagine how young my siblings were and she was our youngest. She died on september 29th 2023 and she really, really loved my daughter. She was actually the one who donated blood.
Speaker 3:So in nigeria, when you want to give birth in the government hospital, you have to. I in the I give birth in the government hospital, you have to. I give birth in a teaching hospital, basically a government hospital you have to donate blood to register. They use that as a way to as a blood drive so that they can foil the. They can foil the blood bank. You may need it, you may not need it, but even if you don't need it, someone else might need it. Someone else will, sure may need it, you may not need it, but even if you don't need it, someone else might need it.
Speaker 3:My someone else will sure. My sister was the one who donated the blood for me to register for in that hospital for my twins. She was the one who was there when I gave birth to the twins. I gave birth to the twins at night, where so I went? I was signed into the hospital. They told me to come in in nigeria at that time they don't tell you, and I think I don't know if it's. I think it's still like that, because my sister died from medical malpractice and so they just told me to come in on the Friday. I, on this Thursday, come and be admitted on the Thursday. Then on, I had read the book Supernatural Childbirth, so I wasn't. I was so sure I was going to give birth like a Hebrew woman.
Speaker 3:At some time in the mid nights I went into labor. I thought I didn't know it was labor. I just had this discomfort and I had the feeling that I'd be labeled. So I decided to go and have my bath because I wanted to be fresh when I give birth, right, yeah. And on my way to the bathroom the nurse caught me and she had this feeling that I was walking. Funny, I think she had the feeling. So she put me on the bed, checked me and she was like no, no, no, no, you're not going to any bath, you're going straight to the surgery, to the labor ward. And they took me there and when we got there they said my baby was having a cord, the fostering was coming with her cord, so cord collapsed and they were not going to let me have a baby.
Speaker 3:So my sister was in the hospital and in the hospital they treat you, they drive you, they don't let you stay in the ward with your family member. My sister was basically sleeping under the staircase. So my sister really went through a lot when I had those children and she had a. When she heard that my daughter died, I think he did something to her, her body, because she was also not feeling well, sure, so her immunity was impacted and she and the hospital also messed up. So I lost two people in less than two months. I actually lost my aunt in between, but I talk about my sister because my sister was so close to me. My mother's involved. I died on the 22nd of september. So that year I lost. That's a lot of loss, that's, and of.
Speaker 2:September. So that year I lost three. That's a lot of loss. That's a lot of loss in a very short period of time. Yet when I first met you, when we first became connected, I immediately felt your positivity, your optimism, your well, your positivity, I guess, is the best way I can describe it. After losses like that, how do you come back, how do you gain or regain that outlook on life?
Speaker 3:How did you, I can't put. My only reason, my only reason that I can smile, that I'm positive, I can't even be of any value to anyone today, is because of Jesus. I'm a born again Christian. I'm not a church going Christian. I am a follower of Jesus Christ and I have had to trust him. Losing your child is the nightmare of any good parents. No matter what your child is going through, no matter what your child has done, a good parent never, ever wants to lose their child. And, as I said the phrase good parent, never, ever wants to lose their child. And as I said the word good, as I said the phrase good parent, the devil came at me right now, say are you trying to say you're a good parent? Yes, I believe I'm a good parent. Yes, I did everything I could. I believe I just so.
Speaker 3:When my daughter died, when the I was actually in a meeting talking about my daughter, because the day she died she called me and she said mommy, I love you. And immediately I heard her say that, yeah, I love you, mommy. I felt in my heart. I said is this what they tell their parents so that if they die their parents, can you imagine? This was the thoughts that came into my mind when my daughter was struggling. She had gotten fallen in love with someone who ended up being an addict, an entrenched addict and when he went back into addiction he took my daughter with him and in less than two years my daughter was dead and he has been struggling with addiction for almost three decades and he's still here. So that's just how life is.
Speaker 3:So when the police came, then we're banging you know how they come to you? How's the bank? I don't know why they do that police. And we I, they said, or their father, the father said the police are here. Then I came out immediately. I saw them. I said is my daughter dead? This, this is the same in your heart. Didn, yeah, my mother? I was six when my mother died, yeah, and when people said they were coming to the house, I walked to them. I was six years old. I looked at the women all gathered together and I asked them is my mother dead? Just something in me, just. And I was six years old. And sadly they did not respond the way they like haunts me or something. They just say keep quiet, you little child. But that's in. The Nigerian can be very harsh. The Nigeria of that time was like that and so well.
Speaker 3:When the police when that happened, I broke down, the police woman couldn't talk, she nodded and I started to cry and I kept asking God, god, you don't answer my prayers. You didn't answer my prayers, you do not answer my prayers and I was crying and crying for the next three days. And on the normal day, when I feel sad, I listen to, I worship, I play songs, I worship, I listen to messages, but mostly worship. I used to be a worship minister, so this is my go-to, because worship songs have God's word in them and you're just basically repeating God's word in song to him, reminding yourself. And no song could comfort me. There was no song that I knew that comforted me.
Speaker 3:On the third day I asked God. I told God. I said you know, I have no alternative to you. I don't know what else. I have nowhere else to go.
Speaker 3:I cannot now say okay, I want to go and be doing drugs or start drinking, start doing anything I have. You are all I have. You have to help me because I can't even pray, because it was like you don't answer my prayers and why, if some, some words came into my mind, something to do with glory, and I in particular. Actually, it was a song I I thought I knew I a song I knew, but I couldn't remember the words that I must remember something glory. But when I Googled that song, the Lord sent me the song. Wow, the song that was going to set me free from prayerlessness, the song that was going to comfort me. The song is by a man called Jonathan Grainer. The title of the song is you Get the Glory. You get the glory from this. You get the glory from this, no matter what I have to go through in this world, as long as you get the glory from it. And this song, this song has tribulation and affliction and all kinds of you know. The words were just what I needed.
Speaker 2:And that song You're making me cry, you're making me cry.
Speaker 3:That song was what the Lord used to reel me back from where the devil was taking me. Wow, Wow.
Speaker 2:Now I know, know, and I've heard and I've talked with a lot of people who have been quite faithful. But when they lose someone, they lose their faith. And I have heard people say I prayed, I prayed, I prayed, my prayers weren't answered, and that's what they get upset with. But someone said to me at one time and that's what they get upset with. But someone said to me at one time your prayer is merely a request, a plea. You know. It doesn't mean that just because you pray, you're going to get what you ask for. Do you have any words of advice, if you will, for people who may be kind of at that point where they're questioning their faith or they've given it up, they've said I'm done. Do you have any thoughts or words for them? What?
Speaker 3:I can say is the word trust comes to my mind when you trust someone you know. Word trust comes to my mind. When you trust someone you know you believe that they have their best interests at heart. If our children trust us when we take something from them. For example, you've bought your child a video game Okay, and like a PlayStation, for example, and they're playing with their PlayStation, they're enjoying this PlayStation and all of that and you ask, you notice, as a parent, that this child is getting too basically addicted to this game and it's affecting them. They are not going to, they are, they are. They are not yet failing in school, but they are looking, they are walking towards it because they are not studying. And then you decide to take that game away from them. The big picture is that you want their success, but they don't know that the only thing is the pain of losing their game. But if they trust you, they will just say okay, dad, I really don't like it, but all right, since you said it, I know you love me. So our relationship with God is a relationship based on trust. We don't always know why he does the things he does, but if we trust him, we'll just leave it in his hands.
Speaker 3:The Bible says in the book of Romans, 8, verse 28,. My favorite scripture, the scripture God gave me when my troubles in Canada started and that scripture has proven to become the scripture that I hold on to Romans 8 and 28 says that all things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to his purpose. So the first thing I ask myself is do I love God? The Bible tells us in the book of 2 Corinthians. 1 Corinthians 13 talks about love. Love is patient, kind, long-suffering does not keep a record of wrongs. Do you love God? Take that scripture, check your love for God. Is your love for God based on what he can give to you? That's not love.
Speaker 3:If some people are in marriages where their husband is with them because of what he can get from them, I'm sure they don't feel loved. So if you love God. So what I can say to that person is did you ever love God? You say, oh, yes, I loved him. Check yourself with the book of 1 Corinthians 13. Did you love him like that? Did you love him in a love that he didn't? You don't love him for what you can get from him. You love him because he first loved you. The Bible says while we were yet seen as Jesus died for the ungodly we that did not know God. He died for us when we hated him. Jesus died for the Roman soldier who knocked that nail into his heart. Jesus died for all the people that spat on him on his way to Calvary. Jesus died for those who lied and said oh, he said this just so that he could be crucified.
Speaker 2:And he asked for them all to be forgiven, right? He said forgive them, forgive them.
Speaker 3:As Christians, the love we have for God is not human love. We can't love like humans. That's why, as a Christian, you lean on the Holy Spirit. Losing someone dear to you is a difficult spirit. Losing someone dear to you is a difficult. It's a terrible thing, because the most painful thing for me is that I will never see my daughter on earth again. Yes, and if you read the Bible, the Bible tells us that in heaven there is no child, there's no parent, there's no husband, there's no wife. So even if I saw her in heaven, I wouldn't recognize her. My time with her is ended forever. That is the most painful thing to me and that is the painful thing for us.
Speaker 3:When we lose people, our time with them is ended. We can't go back and undo things. We can't go back and do something different. We can't. We won't see them again, except in a dream. Here. We won't see them in person and they will recognize us and we will recognize them. The time is gone, according to what the Bible tells us. But we have to trust God, even when we don't understand it, just like a good child. When we say a well-behaved child, it's a child that trusts the parents, a well-behaved child, and a child that trusts the parents. No matter what the parents say, they trust that mommy loves me. I hate broccoli. When she's saying broccoli is good for me, I'm going to eat it because mommy believes.
Speaker 2:I hate broccoli. I will say I hate broccoli.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:First, I love your analogy of the child with the video game, and what stood out to me, in addition to the concept of trust, was the fact that, as a parent, your connection to that video game is that you gave it as a gift. That was your connection For your child. It is something that they have come to love and need. And then I kind of match that with the same relationship that, for example, I have had with my husband. Okay, I loved him, I came to love him, I needed him in my life. But from God's perspective, tom was his gift to me for a period of time and I just I love that because it kind of I guess it affirms to me first of all, that I'm not the center of the world, that it's not only what I feel, but everybody's relationship is different. So God's relationship with Tom was different. Tom was his gift to me for a period of time so that my life would be fulfilling, I would be happy, I would be safe and secure, because I felt that way with Tom. He was my protector, he had been military and I always felt so safe, so very safe, in his presence. Yet the time came that God took him away.
Speaker 2:Now, you said it, you said it. The other thing I want to ask you and I want to focus on for a little bit, if you don't mind is many, many people have the belief that when they die, they will be reunited with their loved one. But you say, according to the Bible, that is not true. Can you offer a little more clarity and information on that?
Speaker 3:The thing about my knowledge of the Bible. I quote the Bible a lot because I have known the Bible for so long, but I don't. I can give you what the Bible says, but I cannot always give you the exact quotes, right, this woman, if I check it and confirm. But one thing I can tell you the Bible says that in heaven there is no marriage in heaven. So my understanding of what the Bible says is in heaven there is no relationship. We are all one, we are all his children and so, as children of God, there's none that is more valuable than the other. There's none that is on earth. Your children can't marry one another. All we know is that we're fellow worshipers. We get there and, you see, the Bible tells us there'll be lots of people and he'll be. We get there and, you see, the bible tells us there will be lots of people and he'll be on the phone and everything. So all of us are just one happy family. Okay, I'm not. That is my understanding, and when I was in university we did talk a lot about this and that's how I formed my opinion. And with that word where the bible is talking to us about how there is no marriage in heaven. So there's no parent in heaven, there's no child in heaven. We are just Okay. So that's why we're just all people, yeah, we're just all people of God.
Speaker 3:I know that people want some comfort to say I will see them again. Yes, yes, even though I believe this, I have to believe God. The truth is that, whatever I believe based on the word of God, some people tell me that the Bible is a fairy tale, that people lied and some people lied. We don't know, but I believe in Jesus Christ. He died and I have proof that he lived on earth and he did everything he did. If you go through the alpha course, you will see that Jesus died. There is historical proof and everything I'm. You will see that jesus died. There is historical proof and everything. Okay, the truth is I'm not following him for what he can give me. If I see my daughter again, that would be, oh my goodness, that would be so wonderful. But right this moment, I believe, according to that scripture, which I will send to you, I will send you after this, after our time, so I would, I would like that. Thank you for you too. Yeah, okay, it's not going to change the way that I feel I'm not going to feel worse. This is, this is what I'm thinking. I'm never going to see my daughter again. That's the thing that brings it here. Yeah, never going to see my child again. And I and that's why now I'm now hanging in there I really want to tell mothers do your best with your children, don't.
Speaker 3:If you need to be taking, if you have anxiety, you need to see a psychotherapist, you need a psychiatrist. Do whatever it takes to bring your best for your children, because you will not, or not only your children, your loved ones, because life is so short and when death happens for me, I feel that death. I believe that death is final. You have no other opportunity to make up for whatever it is you didn't do so. Please be your best today and do your best.
Speaker 2:Yes, I agree with that. In fact, I'll even say amen. One other thing I kind of wanted to. This kind of goes back toward the beginning of the podcast, when you were talking about your Christianity, your faith. I think you mentioned that you're not a church-going Christian. Are you a member of a congregation? I am, I am a member of a congregation. Okay, well, here's the reason. I ask is because many people feel that unless they are part of a church and or congregation, that their Christianity, their faith, is not validated. They are correct. Can you speak to that? Can you be an independent Christian? I guess is the question.
Speaker 3:So the Bible says do not forsake the gathering together of believers, as some do. It is an instruction. Being a member of a congregation is not I like a congregation. It's an instruction you are obeying. I'm an obedient child of God. So when I said I'm not a churchgoer, I go to church. I am part of a congregation, but I don't hinge my faith on the fact. Some people, their Christianity is based on the fact that they attend a church but their lifestyle is not Christian. They are not loving, they are not obeying the word of God because they have no relationship with the Bible, with God's word for themselves. If their pastor ever goes upside down, then their lives become upside down because they have no relationship with God themselves. So that's what I meant. So I tell the church I'm a member of a congregation. I'm actually a member of two congregations.
Speaker 3:I attend Leon Edmund's church online. Andud has been a blessing in my life. People say lots of trash about Jealousy, but if they knew how many lives he has saved Anyway, I mean saved literally from killing themselves. So I attend that online every Sunday. I attend the different programs. I listen to him all the time. Then I attend Eagle Ridge Bible Fellowship in Mennonite Church and I'm not. I wasn't raised at the Mennonite. That was a church my husband liked, so I attend that. But I'm also getting my spiritual food from many other places because it's food Food is diverse. You can't eat broccoli for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2:And you know, one of my favorite topics about grief in general and I usually close every podcast with mention of it is self-care. So actually belonging to a congregation can and is a form of self-care, because you're surrounding yourself with community and it's that community that can be supportive when you most need them. Would that be a fair statement?
Speaker 3:Oh, my goodness, you are not very fair. My Eagle Ridge Bible Fellowship. They surrounded us and enveloped us in love. They just covered me with love. That is a church. But you know what, kathy, not every church does that. No, that's true.
Speaker 3:People go through grief in some churches and they don't get the care they need, and that I'm going to call out Christians. If you're a church member, you're in a church and you are not taking care of those who are hurting in your church. That's not Jesus. You really need to step up, because this is how why people fall away from faith. This is why, sure, take decisions, because the grief leave them to take decisions. They have no anchor. Right during the time I couldn't pray, I talked to my pastor. I just asked him to pray for me, because you are fighting. When you lose someone, it is an opportunity for the devil to come at you. The devil is so good at going after those that are in weak situations, the vulnerable. The devil is like the hyena or the vulture. They look when there's someone broken, they stand near to see how they can get you down they look for opportunity.
Speaker 2:It's.
Speaker 3:It's all based on the week, Because that church they showed me, they showed God in action.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wonderful, wonderfully said. Well, sadly, the time has come where podcast is winding down. I set that target of 30 minutes, but every time I regret it when that 30 minutes comes. I really do. This is the part in my podcast where I actually turn the microphone over to you. So here's what I would like to happen I'm going to turn the microphone over to you and just you can speak freely to our listeners. If you want to offer something to them, you're free to do that. Otherwise, if you just have a message you want to say After, that is when I usually close the podcast, but today I wonder if I could ask you to close us in prayer. Okay, so the microphone and the floor are now yours. You have as much time as you need. Thank you.
Speaker 3:Kathy, I just want to thank you listeners, everyone that is listening or watching this podcast.
Speaker 3:I want to say thank you to you for tuning in or watching this podcast. I want to say thank you to you for tuning in, for not giving up on yourself, for wanting to get the support that you need from people like you who have gone through or are going through the same grief journey of grief. Grief is a very difficult thing. It comes at you in ways. It comes at you when you least expect it. You just see something and it just breaks you down. You're just watching a movie that has nothing to do with the person you love and suddenly one word is spoken and then you just start to weep and, sadly for many of us, we hear people tell us it's okay, you should get over it. But I want you to know if you're in that situation and you kind of feel pressured by people to get over it, know that grief is a journey, and a journey that is different for every one of us. Don't feel bad that you're still grieving, I don't know when I? I don't even want to stop grieving.
Speaker 3:My child, my child, died at 24. She didn't have the opportunity to live what the life, the potential to the fullness of our potential on earth. I want to live for her, I want to remember her, I don't want to forget her. So for some of us, that's what grief is. For us, we can't let go. They say, let them go. I can't let my child go. If I let her go, then she's gone forever. She's my constant thought. How can I live my life in a way that I am living up to the gift that she was and her name was gifts? If you are in this situation, don't feel bad. I want you to learn my favorite thing. I always say listen to your heart, because your heart is your very own God-given GPS to guide you on the journey of your own life. Listen to your heart and if this situation has made you doubt God's love, I want you to know that he loves you. Just the way I described about that child. That child, some children are going to say my daddy hates me, that's why he's taking the video game. But daddy can see ahead. I don't know what God saved my daughter from by taking her home, by allowing her to go home when she did. I don't see the future. I want you to realize that we don't see the future. We have to trust him that he loves us, and I really, really encourage you. And if you are a mother, I talk to women in the trenches of life.
Speaker 3:I have a podcast called Mercy Can't Stop Her. The reason I have that podcast is because our children need mothers that are healed and whole. Our children deserve the best of us. This do mothers that are healed and whole. Our children deserve the best of us. This world deserves the best of us. We may.
Speaker 3:We are the. We are the, the crux of the matter on earth. We are precious and special. That's why we were the first evangelists in the bible. We were the first one when god came to. When the angel came to mary, mary said let it be as you wish, as whatever you desire, god just let it happen that way. That's who we are. We are the ones God made us special. He made us special. He loves us so much. It's man that has changed the story. It's human beings that have created these cages that they put us in. And if you know that God made you special, he made you special for a purpose thing. And if you know that God made you special, he made you special for a purpose, and that's what I do.
Speaker 3:I want to do on Mercy Can't Stop Her. I want us to live our lives of purpose, heal what needs to be healed, address what needs to be addressed, strengthen what needs to be strengthened and move forward with courage and boldness. I invite you to listen, to check listening platforms, like where you're listening to as I Live and Grieve and check out Mercy Can't Stop Her with Judith Cambia Obatusa At this time. That's what I'm offering. I just want to help other women and if you check it out and you like it, please leave me subscribe, like share and you like it, please leave me subscribe, like share, because we women, we deserve to live the lives of purpose that God has given us, and I just want to thank you, kathy. Thank you so much again for this place for us that are grieving to come and share our heart. It's a lot. Grief is a lot. Do you want me to pray now or after you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd love it if you would close in prayer.
Speaker 3:Oh, father, we are so grateful. Father, we are so grateful that you gave us an opportunity to gather together to talk about you. Talk about how you are with us in the place of our pain, how you stand by us, how, when we do not know how to pray, what to pray, you send us a song. Lord, I'm praying for my any man, any woman that's listening to this podcast, that God, you will send them what they need, the way you sent me that song. Send them a word, send them a song, send them an article. Send them what they need, send them a person to help them. I pray for everyone who is living dealing with grief. That, father, you will help. Fort each and every one of us and Benupos in your arms, your loving arms, remind us how much you love us.
Speaker 3:The ones that are struggling with their faith because this tragedy, it blindsided them. They don't understand. I know we cannot understand it all here, but, god, I'm asking that you will uphold them with your right hand of righteousness. Uphold them in this place of shaken, stabilize them, because the enemy is against them. And right now I come against every lie of hell, every lie of hell telling you that God does not love you. I silence every voice that is speaking what God has not said concerning you or to you. I silence them in the name of Jesus Christ and everyone that is listening that is being tormented by hell because of their loss.
Speaker 3:Right now, I come against you. Every spirit that is not from God, that is trying to torment my brother, my sister. I come against you by the power in the name of Jesus. I come against you and right now I begin to plead the blood of Jesus. The Bible tells us that the blood speaks better things than the blood of Abel. The blood of Jesus. I come against you and right now I begin to plead the blood of Jesus. The Bible tells us that the blood speaks better things than the blood of Abel. The blood of Jesus speaks peace to you right now. The blood of Jesus speaks comfort to you right now. In Jesus' mighty name, I pray Amen.
Speaker 2:Amen. Listeners, let's all to take care of ourselves as we continue to live and grieve. Judith Cambia Obitusa. Thank you so very, very much.
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