Neuroinclusion: Across the Pond and Beyond
Join hosts and global neurodiversity speakers Pasha Marlowe and Atif Choudhury for a uniquely expansive, deeply human, and hopeful conversation about neuroinclusion and the state of humanity. This podcast, Neuroinclusion: Across the Pond and Beyond, will explore neurodiversity from a global, cultural, and systemic lens. Pasha and Atif will discuss neuroinclusion in the workplace, but also the power and relational dynamics of neuroinclusion in homes and communities. Conversations will weave together current events and politics, workplace trends, accessibility, power and societal dynamics, and the mental health of humanity at large.
Pasha Marlowe (she/her), CEO of Neurobelonging and therapist/coach for over 30 years, specializes in working with neurodivergent individuals, couples, and groups and has expanded her practice to include keynotes, webinars, and trainings for global leaders and organizations who want to adopt neurodiversity-affirming programs and practices. She is the author of "Creating Cultures of Neuroinclusion". She is a mother to three adult children and lives in Maine, USA.
Atif Choudhury (he/him), CEO of Calling All Minds and co-founder of Zaytoun CIC, is an award-wining social entrepreneur with a background in economic justice and disabiity inclusion. He is an adviser to the WHO rapid assitive technologies board and is a trustee for Disability Rights UK. He is a global neurodiversity speaker who also offers corporate and leadership training. He is the father of two young children and lives just outside of London, UK.
To reach Pasha or Atif for feedback, questions, or to request a guest appearance on the podcast, contact us at pasha@pashamarlowe.com or atif@callingallminds.com.
You can also find more information on their websites pashamarlowe.com and callingallminds.com or follow them on Linkedin.
Neuroinclusion: Across the Pond and Beyond
"Masking Our Queerness and Neurodivergence" with Jillian Abby
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Jillian Abby, AKA @queerabby, author of "Perfectly Queer", and I share a conversation about coming out late in life queer and/or neurodivergent, the messy middle, the words we use when we talk about divorce and diagnosis, and how coming out often feels, but is NOT selfish.
We challenge timeline narratives and social norms. According to who's time are we coming out "too late" or staying "too long" in our current relationships? According to who is this the "right way of thinking or loving"?
Jill and I share our coming out stories and we normalize how COVID, the economy, and the housing crisis complicates matters more and often extends the messy middle.
We talk about ADHD non-linear career paths and gaps in our resumes and how we hold so much shame around shifting gears and changing our minds.
I give a shout out to one of my spiritual teachers, Rob Bell, as I reframe this phenomenon and explain the consistent "threads" that we weave throughout our lives that often, in true ADHD form, take on different shapes and forms.
Finally, we discuss how it is NOT selfish to prioritize yourself! Coming out queer and even neurodivergent can FEEL selfish, and Jill and I honor the years of thoughtfulness and courage building that occur often before coming out.
Jill says "It is hard to show up as the best version of ourselves if we are wearing a mask and hiding our truth."
To reach Jillian:
https://queerabby.com/
@queerabby
Buy her book "Perfectly Queer"
Hire PASHA to present at your next training event or conference.
Or hire her as your personal coach (1:1, couples, and executives)
https://pashamarlowe.com/
pasha@pashamarlowe.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pashamarlowe/
Hire ATIF to present at your next training event or conference.
atif@callingallminds.com
callingallminds.com
Linkedin: @AtifChoudhury
