Mind & Matter
Whether food, drugs or ideas, what you consume influences who you become. Learn directly from the best scientists & thinkers alive today about how your mind-body reacts to what you feed it.
The weekly M&M podcast features conversations with the most interesting scientists, thinkers, and technology entrepreneurs alive today.
Not medical advice.
At M&M, we are interested in trying to figure out how things work, not affirming our existing beliefs. We prefer consulting primary rather than secondary sources and independent rather than institutional voices. If we encounter uncomfortable truths or the evidence suggests unfashionable ideas may be valid, so be it.
As the host, my aim is to help you better understand how the body & mind work by curating & synthesizing information in a way that yields science-based insights that you can choose to use or disregard in your own life. Taking ownership of your health starts with taking ownership of your information diet.
I am motivated to connect the dots and distill general principles from what I learn, preferring to ask questions and play devil’s advocate to debating or incessantly pushing my own viewpoint.
My beliefs:
- Taking ownership of your health starts with taking ownership of your information diet.
- All knowledge is provisional and we must work hard to prevent ourselves from becoming attached to our favorite ideas & preferred conclusions.
- Wisdom comes from an iterative, trial-and-error process of learning and unlearning. Letting go of pre-conceived notions can be painful, but pain is information.
Sometimes modern discoveries teach us we must unlearn received wisdom. Other times, modern information overload & historical chauvinism cause us to forget ancient wisdom which stills applies. The framework for learning that I embody is inspired by three Ancient Greek maxims inscribed in the Temple of Apollo at Delphi:
- “Γνῶθι σεαυτόν” (Know thyself)
- “Μηδὲν ἄγαν” (Nothing in excess)
- “Ἐγγύα πάρα δ Ἄτα” (Certainty brings insanity)
Mind & Matter
Light, Hunger & Mitochondria: Non-Image Forming Effects of Sunlight | Alexis Cowan | 287
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How light regulate circadian rhythms, mitochondrial function, hormones, and appetite.
Nick & Dr. Alexis Cowan discuss non-image-forming effects of light on the body, from melanopsin-driven circadian signaling in the eye to UV-stimulated pathways in skin and brain that influence melatonin, cortisol, melanin production, and energy balance.
TOPICS DISCUSSED:
- Melanopsin & non-image-forming light: blue light signals daytime to the SCN master clock, suppressing melatonin and promoting alertness.
- UV light, POMC & peptide hormones: UVB exposure in skin and hypothalamus produces alpha-MSH (reduces appetite, boosts energy expenditure) and beta-endorphin (improves mood), independent of vitamin D.
- Mitochondrial effects of light: red/infrared supports function like a gas pedal; isolated blue light acts as brakes, impairing energy production and biophoton signaling.
- Artificial light: Evening blue light from screens inhibits melatonin, poisons mitochondria, and creates discordant timing signals versus balanced natural sunlight.
- Melanin beyond skin: produced via UVB, it harnesses energy, buffers oxidative stress, and links to dopamine pathways; low sun exposure ties to metabolic issues and conditions like Parkinson’s.
- Vitamin D as biomarker: supplementation shows limited benefits because it reflects broader UVB-driven processes, not a standalone fix.
ABOUT THE GUEST: Alexis Cowan, PhD earned her PhD in molecular biology at Princeton in the Rabinowitz lab, a leading metabolism research group, where she studied fasting, ketogenic diets, and exercise; she completed a postdoc at UPenn before shifting focus to circadian and quantum biology. She now educates on light, mitochondria, and quantum biology.
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