Very Best of Living
Dr. Taylor Hartman, relationship expert and Psychologist, discusses key insights that he has made over his professional career on what makes successful relationships. His work The Color Code now called the People Code is a powerful agent for positive healthy relationships both personal and professional.
Very Best of Living
The Joy Reboot: Reclaiming Happiness in a Challenging World
What happens when life's inconveniences feel overwhelming? Imagine finding yourself in Cuba grappling with unexpected challenges, or dealing with an eight-day air conditioning outage at home. In this episode, we explore the art of transforming obstacles into opportunities and managing life's inherent inconveniences. Through personal stories and shared experiences, we delve into how our responses to these inconveniences can shape our overall experience and highlight the importance of communication and teamwork in overcoming these hurdles.
Living or working alongside someone burdened by guilt can be an emotional minefield. We discuss the different personality types and how they navigate these feelings, from the vibrant reds and yellows to the introspective blues and whites. By sharing intimate anecdotes, we examine how guilt can be paralyzing, stressing the necessity of setting personal boundaries and not internalizing another's emotional burdens. We'll reveal how moodiness impacts relationships and professional settings, making it crucial to maintain clarity about one's own boundaries and avoid validating unhealthy emotional states.
Confronting emotionally immature individuals requires courage and the willingness to set firm boundaries. We discuss strategies to break the cycle of enabling negative behaviors and rediscover past sources of joy and empowerment. Reflecting on times of contentment can help reclaim your sense of freedom and resolve. Finally, we invite you to join a candid conversation about narcissism in relationships, sharing our newfound insights and excitement about exploring this complex subject further. Tune in for an empowering discussion on facing life's challenges with courage and grace.
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Good morning listeners. This is Dr Taylor Hartman and with my good friend Kat Larson, on Very Best of Living. Good morning Kat. Good morning, dr Taylor Hartman how are you oh so good? Yes, you are I like that.
Speaker 1:But if I, but if someday I say, not that great, will you help me?
Speaker 2:yes, I'll be here okay, good and I'll start by saying well, that figures hey, not my problem, get on with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why?
Speaker 2:are you telling me what? Do you think? I am a shrink, or?
Speaker 1:something. No, you know it's funny about that, like I actually hey, not my problem, get on with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why are you telling me that's right? What do you think? I am a shrink or something? No, you know, it's funny about that. Like, I actually do believe that it's.
Speaker 2:One of the interesting things to me is how you can take an obstacle and make it an opportunity.
Speaker 2:And there's. I was talking to a couple of us last week who are just terrific people, and he's done very well financially and so his children have expected that you know. Well then, since that's the case, we should be entitled to money, and he's so generous by nature that his thinking is I just did this thing and I realized that I'm not necessarily helping them, and so now he has to, and he doesn't really trust the charities. He doesn't want to leave them so much that will make them crippled. But he is torn now with what has become an obstacle, and so the question we're working on is for him to get clean enough and healthy enough so he can actually make that into an opportunity, which would be kind of fun to see that happen, because not all of us have that problem in life, right? But that's his, and it was created by him doing the kind of life that he lives, which is very successful and very good at what he does, and yet it created an obstacle, so now he has to make it an opportunity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be Kathy Larson, wells Fargo number.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll send it over. Well, it is interesting I want to talk a little bit about. I have some remembrances of Cuba and the experience there and one of the things I wanted to talk about today was living an inconvenient life and I just remember being with them beautiful country, wonderful people, not much hope, there's not much to look forward to really in their life because they bet on Russia and unfortunately that has not panned out well for them, especially when they're at war with Ukraine and so they can't get supplies. But it really struck me that some things in life are inconvenient because life is inconvenient. Some things in life are inconvenient because life is inconvenient.
Speaker 2:Some things in life are inconvenient because we make them inconvenient and I'm not sure people really own consequences. Like there are natural consequences for choices that we make. Like if we choose to blame others for our life, we cannot control that. Therefore we can't fix it. It becomes an obstacle and stays that way If we choose to own it and control what we can control.
Speaker 2:Like people going through a divorce that's been very painful. They're glad they're divorcing, it's the right thing to do, but the process is very painful and there are consequences for children and financially and emotionally that go with that, but learning how to say, okay, this is inconvenient for a moment, but it's the right thing to do long-term Right, should enhance them right and feel good about that. So it's kind of like an interesting question what are you doing in your life to make it inconvenient and how are you dealing with inconvenience that comes from living Like aging is an inconvenience and you have to either address it and adapt, or it consumes you and controls you, right. Anything a new job, new relationships can be an inconvenience, right? So your question is what are the consequences I am having to face for the choices that I've made, and how do I choose then to embrace the consequences and move forward in my life with a proper opportunity, as opposed to being stuck in the negativity? Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know if this is right, so just help me get on track with this. So we are renting the house where we live, yep, and the air conditioner has been out for eight days now.
Speaker 2:In this heat.
Speaker 1:In this heat. And so Paco, my husband Paco, has chosen.
Speaker 2:We all know, paco.
Speaker 1:We all know, paco. Has chosen anger as his response and feeling bad, and I quote cause I got, cause I brought us here, so. So so that would be a minor inconvenient, correct? Yes, yes so so any inconvenience you have how you respond to it is what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm talking about. That's a very good point. Yeah, and of course, you have reminded him that he's right. It is his fault, right? You have made that very clear.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're on a schedule with that. Yes, I have to make sure I get it in six times a day.
Speaker 2:No, it's interesting because what you said was very good. Anger is always a secondary response and the primary response is powerlessness, like I can't take care of this, I can't fix it. And then, of course, what he does, which is so typical. I was doing a training yesterday with a company and there's such a good guy who's there, but his guilt is so intense that it shuts him down, like he feels bad about things that he does. And instead of saying this is a problem I'm having, let me figure out how we can make this work. He doesn't communicate that, he just shuts down.
Speaker 2:You know where Paco gets angry, right? So it's all people need to understand is that you're coming from a place of. I cannot control this. So, first of all, the best thing to do is communicate that, not with necessarily anger, certainly not quietly, but honestly, I can't fix this, I can't control this. So at least you've got a team with you, you're not living in your own head all the time, right. And then the other thing is okay. What do you do about adapting to that scenario? Because you're renting.
Speaker 2:Therefore, it's not yours to fix, it's theirs to fix right so you have to figure out, okay, first of all, how do we work around this while it's getting to the point it can get fixed right in cuba. There was no answer to that. They don't fix anything. They have no say in controlling their destiny. So you can imagine how hopeless that becomes over time. With I can't fix anything or get the government to fix anything. I'm just a victim of my circumstance. And when you get to that point, you either embrace it and say you know what? I can make the best of my life as I can, and either you turn your attitude towards a positive thing you can control or you go to negative vices drinking or whatever to numb it right. But the truth of the matter is, the better you can adapt to inconvenience in life, the happier you will be.
Speaker 2:I was talking to a woman this week who's just a gem and she's yellow and she absolutely thrived in life. She had sick parents, totally dysfunctional, and she said, Taylor, I was literally reading a journal. I wrote an entry. I wrote when I was like 17. I was working to pay the bills for me to survive so I could eat, because my parents didn't provide, and I'm sitting in my desk looking outside and enjoying the breeze, and I wrote that in the journal how happy I was. And she goes. Today I feel totally consumed and overwhelmed by the demands of life. People are weighing me down and I don't have that mindset anymore. So working her back towards where she was once in control of inconvenience versus being controlled by it is our work. That's what we need to do to find her, be her again.
Speaker 2:And sometimes it's people who become the inconvenience, the negative people, draining people, blaming people, blaming people, annoying people. Sometimes it's people, not things Like yours is an air conditioning right. It could also be a grandparent, it could be a parent, it could be a spouse, it could be those kinds of people who become the irritation that sets you into anger mode or guilt mode, that sets you into anger mode or guilt mode and shut you down. So it's learning how to adjust in life to the circumstances and, by the way, I think it's very important people understand we all go through this Like. Every one of us is challenged at points in our life as to whether we will be overcome by the inconveniences of life, whether the people are issues or we rise above them. Every one of us and some of us do it better than others. I will admit that there are certain people who have more of a kind of energy about them, a strength about them. They can push back better. Others are more vulnerable to feeling victimized, incapable, wrong, blaming myself, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:And that could be color-driven, couldn't it?
Speaker 2:I was just going to talk about that. I'm glad you said that. Yeah, reds and yellows by nature have an innate sense of rising above, and blues and whites have an innate sense of taking it on, like sinking them, feeling deeper about it.
Speaker 1:That's so funny because here's Paco's solution. Right, we're renting. Getting ready to move. We're renting. So, he just goes. Well, I'm just going to get a new air conditioner. Oh yeah, $10,000 later. I'm like, honey, we don't need that, we don't need that. No, and I mean, he leaves all day. I work at home, so I'm the one here and I'm like I can do this. I got fans, we're good, we're good, yes, you know. And but, but? But what you talked about the gentleman that was in the training, that guilt just eats him up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so, you know it's so. It's so sad, because I love people that are that way because they're so sincere yes, they're, but then the guilt becomes a negative, like this guy in the training. Literally, he did not speak to the person asking him the questions he needed answered in a business mode, right, because he felt so bad about what he wasn't getting done. So, rather than say to the person what his issue was, he just sucked it in Like what's wrong with me? I'm inadequate, I can't do this job, and literally got to the point that I actually said to him I think you're in the wrong seat on the bus. I think maybe you don't belong where you are. And it offended him so much.
Speaker 2:He, instead of being bitter and rude, he just thought about it deeply and then he realized you know what? I am in the right seat, I've done amazing stuff with a portion of what I'm doing, but another part I couldn't fix it. But rather than talk about that, I just let it own me and made people judge me, and so that was an incredible turnaround in my mind and his mind. His gift was his ability to identify what he had done and how he can fix that going forward. It was really cool. But people that are very heavy laden with guilt, like they're often their own worst enemy because they'll get stuck in that place blaming themselves for things that really aren't even their fault right and not talking about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do have a question about that, Like. So it's probably. It's probably a little tunnel vision cause I live with it, but I do. I think one of the hardest things living with somebody who takes that on is how do you, how do you convince them? Or is that their job? Do I have to help him in the process of convincing him that I'm okay, you don't have to take that on? It's almost like they enjoy putting that backpack on. It's almost like they enjoy carrying the load Is that a worth thing, yeah, it is a worth thing.
Speaker 2:I'm not worthy of it. I'm not good enough. I love that you asked that question. By the way, it's not your job to fix him. It's not your job to fix him. Your job is to be clean and and true to yourself. So if he chooses to wear the backpack, then that's on him, but your beauty is that you let him know that's not coming from me, just so you're aware of this.
Speaker 2:This is your backpack you're putting on. I'm asking you to take it off because I don't need it, but you're telling me you want to wear it. Okay, but don't put't put that on me. Don't make that my issue. Like I don't want your anger. That's not going to work for me, because I don't want to be angry and I don't need to be angry, and it doesn't make my life any better. And and and I would say that for heavy blues, they don't realize often how much of a weight they are in putting on other people their own guilt, their frustration, their anger, their hurt. They carry that around almost like a badge of honor. And your job, kat, which is something fortunately, you're, as a yellow and a healthy yellow, are more able to do than probably others are, and that is identify. It's not my issue't. That's not mine. I'm not making that part of the problem. I don't judge you for it. I have no issue with this. So if you're choosing to wear it, that's yours.
Speaker 1:Well, I will tell you, I am unhealthy in one way which is well, I get impatient and frustrated because it it it takes away from our time that we could be having fun interacting. It changes his mood, yeah, and I get like oh, come on man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the moodiness, yeah, it weighs. In fact, you know they've done a study and they showed that the manager, the boss you least like to work for, is a moody boss, because moody is so hard to identify, like, what's the weather today? How are they feeling today? So what you're saying is not abnormal at all. But the problem I have is that I don't think here's mine and I am yellow, secondary red right. So it's very easy for me to say not my problem, not my monkey, I'm not taking that on and I'm very direct about that. Like I'm, like I am not wearing your problem. That's not fair to me. I will help you, I will support you, but I will not live it with you and I certainly won't validate it, that's for sure. So I'm more capable of being independent of it is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Even if I don't.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh absolutely. Jean has been very responsive. I early in our marriage I was very clear about that's not my thing, don't make that my thing. And she's been very responsive, like she has grown dramatically in knowing that's not an option. I love that about her. She's much lighter than she ever used to be, even to this day. She'll say things and I'm like, okay, well, that's, I understand, that's yours. And she's like, oh my gosh, I wish you just feel more deeply like I do, and I'm like I don't, it's not my thing, I'm sorry it's happening, but that's really not my problem.
Speaker 1:You know what's so great about what you just said, because I just had a light bulb moment is what I do that I'm going to stop doing? Is I say okay, so you're having this mood, this attitude, which stops me from moving into what I want to do. Have fun with it, let it go. It's almost like I stop and go. Well, since you're acting this way, then you've ruined the day. I mean.
Speaker 1:I won't say those words, but I kind of act that way. Great, here we go again. Right, instead of going hey, I'm going to have this day because I do think it affects them so bad, then I'm I'm double downing on which is really bad, like that's now. You feel good see now you feel bad about that and you feel bad now.
Speaker 2:You're feeling really bad about me, because I just said that, oh, it's so good yeah, and that's a good point for you to realize that you're buying into the scenario. Big mistake. And I listen, that's your issue, not my issue. And actually that will push blues that are negative or moody out of their negative place better than anything, really, because they don't want to be left alone sulking oh they die. They don't want to be with themselves, they can't stand themselves, either because they're angry and upset and bitter or whatever it might be. So they're pretty quick to say, well, no, no, no, take me with you, only if you get your act together, I'm not going to have this part of my day. And they're amazing, they adapt, they really do, because they want intimacy, they want the relationship. So if they can see that they're killing it, they're much more likely to step up and go okay, I'll come to the table, and if they don't, you have to go on. You can't go back and say, well and wait for them. No, no, no, that doesn't know how it works.
Speaker 1:Taylor is that? Is that response by blues? Emotional immaturity? Is that what that is, or what is it? I don't know if that's the right term.
Speaker 2:Well, it is emotional immaturity, Obviously they're. They're feeling like empowered by their own guilt and anger and it's not going to help them or feed them anything, right so but it's also like their neediness. They want someone to want them make them feel better, like, do my work for me. I don't want to do it. I'm overwhelmed. You know how. I don't deserve this and I want you better. I'm like, wait a minute here. That's not my job in life to make you better. My job is to love you and care about you and want the best for you. But if you've got a negative mood, you've got to figure that out. That's your work to do. Otherwise, they're always running to you to fix them and make them happy, and that's kind of a burden.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but can you see how relationships can get that way Like all of a sudden? Then you get tired of it after 25 years and you're like okay, I'm done with this.
Speaker 2:Well, and I hear it I literally see people leave relationships for that. They're like literally see people leave relationships for that. They're like I've been putting up with this for so long and the negative person's like what I've done this and this and this and this, and their person leaving goes. I don't need that. What I want is a lighter life. I'm tired of carrying this negative energy all the time. So, yeah, it does happen that way, and I think that the sooner you can stop putting your negativity on other people, the better your life is personally and the better your relationship is for sure.
Speaker 1:It's a scary place to tread into, though, because, boy, when they go down, at least in my house, like I, just I feel, and then I feel so, so like, sorry, I don't, that sounds like pity, I don't pity him, but I just feel like, oh gosh, he's hurting so much and I'm adding to it and so then that's another weird dynamic.
Speaker 2:No, I like that. You said that. I think, unfortunately, what people don't realize is that it takes courage to stop the nonsense. It's easier to play to it and people that are fear-based always play to it because they don't know where it might go. So the reality is they feed into that thing and then all of a sudden there it's a kind of a codependent thing that they do, but it doesn't get the person better. They don't get better. They get they more needy and more demanding and they expect more and that kind of thing. So the sooner you can set clean motive like like I, I love you, but I don't love you doing what you're doing. Right to me, that's not going to work for me. And people like that are not stupid. That's the other part. They're emotionally immature but they're not stupid. So if you clean it up for them, like here's what you're doing, here's why it doesn't work for me, they're able to get that. They may not choose to embrace it, but they're able to understand it, and then they can make that choice at that point, whether they want to get better or they don't. But I've been very firm about that in my life, that I'm not living my life under that black cloud. That does not work for me. I don't do well with that.
Speaker 2:There's another guy I was talking to the other day who's. He's such a genuine leader, he's so good it's almost unbelievable. And he's got a guy who's so he just is petty and he knows that is his weak point. He just gets it, just owns him. He hates people that are like that. And so he's having a hard time coming to terms with saying I will no longer tolerate this in my life.
Speaker 2:And really he's right. Like what he's saying is I need this to stop or you need to go, because I deserve a different ambiance when I work places. I will bring a lot to the table. I don't want this kind of thing in my life. And he has a hard time standing his ground on that because he values the other person, wants them to feel good, but he's also hurting himself at the same time. So when any of our listeners are feeling that they're being tugged down a path that is destructive and their motives are clean, they have to have the courage to stand up and say enough, no more. And I'm not saying the other person reacts immediately in a positive way, but they will quickly learn that they no longer own you. They will not win that battle once they understand you're standing around. Very important.
Speaker 1:Very important, very important. Yeah, I just actually wrote that down. I went to the swing back for one thing. When you say you work back, you were talking about working back with that one client that you have to a time when she was enjoying the breeze blowing.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of going back, connecting, understanding where things come from childhood. You know, looking at all of that, when you go back and you identify and say I was sitting in there watching the breeze go and I was so content and happy, what's the work in that space? Like I get going back and identifying it. Do you have to do anything? Or, once you've identified it, it will shift. Something will shift in you. What is? Is there a? Is there a work I have to do to go? Okay, how do I recreate that?
Speaker 2:Or yeah, good point. Well, first of all, you and she share that yellow gift of light. You have that. I, in all fairness, you're, you're fortunate, I would just put it that way. Not everybody has that. So it's easier to rediscover something that exists than something that has never existed. So in that sense, I would just say your work is different than somebody who doesn't have that or never had that.
Speaker 2:But what I would say is you were empowered in those days for a reason. There were things you were doing and thinking that freed you, because nothing was really different. The only thing that's changed is the world has worn you out. You have become, over time, tired, so you don't feel quite as energized or confident or naive about life, right, but you also have developed skills in your years that could counter that. Tiredness is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So I'm suggesting that what you do in that situation is you go back and say, okay, how would I have reacted to that before and do I want that again in my life? The answer is typically yes, I want that, I need that in my life. So what you do at that point is you say, okay, here's the things I was doing. You re-empower yourself, as opposed to letting the people or issues of life that are taking you down. You refocus on that person.
Speaker 2:You used to be, how you used to see life, what you used to do, and do those activities again. Like when someone says to me I used to be happy, okay, what were you doing when you were happy? And they'll say to me well, I can't do that anymore because I said no, no, no, stop that, stop right there. You're already taking away the possibilities of what you can do. Just tell me what you used to do, and then I want you to commit to picking something of that that you will commit to doing. I want to put that back into your life again to strengthen you, because typically what happens, kat, is you lose the resolve over time. You lose that natural gift right, and you feel trapped, like I can't, I'm not as free as I used to be. I'll see that with people that were single. Now they're married and they'll say, well, I'm married now, so it's different. I'm like no, no, no, no, you're still you. You got to go back to being the best you, even in the relationship you're in.
Speaker 1:What if I don't? Have that point back in time? What if I don't have? I have a time, but I'm trying to get there.
Speaker 2:That's a different kind of work. And then you have to kind of visualize what you want to be like, how you want it to look, so that either way you have to do the work, either go back or find something visual you can commit to, right. And then again I say to people if you don't choose to do that, then that's okay, you can be stuck, that's your right. And I'll say, well, that sounds horrible. I said, well, you know what I just told you about your negative spouse? That's their choice too. They can choose to be stuck in negative. But I said you don't have to get stuck with them, that's on you. So now you're telling me, now I'm the one that's stuck.
Speaker 2:I'm saying, okay, that's your right, you can stay stuck or you can choose as well as I do that you staying stuck are you not redefining yourself is not a pleasant place to be, because that's where you're telling me what you're telling me and they'll go. You're right, you're right, that's true. I'm not okay with this. I need to be in a better place. So I will do what needs to be done. And that's what I was saying about the negative blue. They typically will respond the same way they're like well, I don't like this You're, you're leaving me, you're abandoning me, you're not engaging me, okay. Well, if you want to be engaged, change, step up and and and.
Speaker 2:What's sad about that cat is unhealthy people. They stay stuck in a negative, kind of a real counterproductive relationship. And that's when you talked about the 25 year marriage where people go what am I doing? Well, they were part of the parcel for the 25 years. They bought into that as well. So I think it's real important people understand every one of us has to make a choice.
Speaker 2:Going back to Cuba, I was fascinated by how our guide said I choose to stay here. I love my country. But his sister went to Nicaragua and traveled up through to the United States of America and is living there today. So they both chose a different way of dealing with inconvenient life and her challenge was far more inconvenient in getting to where it was better than his. But she chose that path and she's happier and free today. So I think that when you realize there's an inconvenience to my life that doesn't feel right and you have the courage to step forward and challenge it, you will have more work to do than less work, but it will ultimately free you you is, no matter what I mean, no matter what that constant choice of stepping in and your your one of your tenants is a hundred percent responsibility.
Speaker 1:Um, and so I'm. I'm with this person. It's hardest for me to do because I have all colors in my life. It's hardest for me to do with blues because I'm so afraid that it's like oh, this is going to be the straw right. This is the last brick, and so I do have to look at that what you just said, because maybe breaking them isn't a bad idea.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You know what you're just doing by now. You're dismissing him, you're saying he's not capable and you don't trust him. That's the worst thing you could ever think Like. The reality is I trust blues probably more than any other color. Honestly, Because, I really believe that, Because they have this depth about them, this strength about them. I've told you before sick blues are my nightmare. They are the worst of the worst.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I am telling you, I can give you two cases right now where two women that were very sick blues the minute their spouses had the courage to stand up and say I'm done, you will either get better or you'll be alone. They both rose, both of them 100%, and as long as they could get away with being dirty, they did. But the minute they knew they would lose the person they loved the most, they chose to get better. And the bottom line is I respect that. But if you take an attitude of well, I'm really kind of afraid I'm kid gloves, all you're saying is I don't respect you, I don't trust you and I don't believe in you, which just feeds the negativity they already feel about themselves.
Speaker 2:So everybody has the capability and if they choose not to embrace it, that's on them. You didn't break them. They chose not to rise and as long as you're clean you understand what I'm saying about that. Your motive is not to hurt them, it's not to throw them over the edge, it's just to be true to yourself. And that's all you're doing is saying I will not accept this kind of a life. This is what I look for and what I want. And they will rise, I'm telling you, and if they don't, then they're not the right person. But I rarely see them not rise, very rarely.
Speaker 1:Well, that's cool to hear. As a psychologist. You see most people when they're given that they go. I'm going to grow 100%, absolutely, yep.
Speaker 2:It's so interesting because I think of another case where I'm working with someone and he is so intimidated by this yellow. He's afraid it was so fragile he won't challenge him to grow, and so that person's holding the whole group back. I'm like you're not helping him at all. All you're doing is letting him own you at the level he owned you and he's stuck. That's the best you're going to offer. That's not loving him, that's not believing in him and it's certainly not trusting yourself, who you know is genuinely committed to him. So it's just really, it's not. I'm not saying it's easy, but I am saying it is right. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I know I love that. I think I think, when we get to that spot and I mean, if you're really, really get down to the God, grab your guts and show them, it's I, I could be, I don't want, I don't like who I become with that, so it's more about self-preservation.
Speaker 2:Yes, you're right. No, that's right, you'll know. In your gut You'll know, you'll say I don't feel good about how I am, that's exactly right, yeah. And then you look to see, oh, it's because of them. But you forget to go back to no, no, it's because of how I let them own me. And that's where your power lies in you, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, so that's it for today. Okay, that was good.
Speaker 2:It was great entertainment. Loved you guys. I hope our listeners are enjoying this Again. We love to hear from you. It's always fun to hear you guys. Let us know how we impact you and other things you want to talk about. The next one we're going to talk about is narcissism. That is coming into my scope, so we're going to talk about that next.
Speaker 1:Oh good, I'm excited.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Examples Okay.
Speaker 2:I do have a good one. Love you guys. Wonderful Bye now, bye-bye.