Crafting Courses & Rebirth Through Business with Kat Thomson

Uncover the art of creating courses that resonate deeply with your true self as I sit down with Kat—a high school teacher turned course creation coach. Her story is a powerful testament to personal and professional rebirth, catalysed by motherhood and a mission to help others escape hustle culture.

✨ What We Cover:

• Building Capacity in Life + Business: Learn how Kat overcame internal obstacles like imposter syndrome to deliver impactful learning experiences.
• The Synergy of Desire + Pleasure: Discover why aligning your offers with your energy is the cornerstone of a successful course business.
• Starting with Clarity: From resource curation to high-touch interactions, Kat shares how to start with a clear vision and leverage your experiences to empower others.
• Avoiding the Prep Trap: Explore how to recognize your readiness and move forward without getting stuck in endless preparation.

💡 Community: The Secret Ingredient
We also dive into the transformational power of community support. Kat shares how The Pleasurepreneur Mastermind has fostered exponential growth by offering diverse perspectives, reducing stress, and providing a sense of belonging.

Her journey is a reminder that aligning your work with your passions—and surrounding yourself with the right people—can unlock next-level growth.

🔥 Join the Pleasurepreneur Mastermind
You're ready to take your business to multiple-4-figure months as an in-demand coach, while leading a pleasure-filled life.

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The Pleasurepreneur Mastermind is your space to:

• Grow your income, your client list and your impact in a way that you actual enjoy
• Build offers that align with your desires and have you excited to sell.
• Have natural, drool-worthy messaging flow from you to call in your ideal clients
• Master selling in a way that feels easeful, authentic and enjoyable to you (& therefore sell more and make so many more sales) 
• Surround yourself with a supportive, like-minded community.

💻 Click here to apply now or find out more.

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Chapters

• 0:01 Course Creation Coach Talks Growth
• 8:53 Building a Successful Course Business
• 23:51 Pleasure-Led Business Success
• 34:09 Empowerment and Fulfillment in Business

Transcript

Regan Figg: 0:01

recording in progress. Okay, hello, kat, and welcome.

Kat Thomson: 0:10

Hello, thank you so much for having me on.

Regan Figg: 0:12

It is so thank you. It is so great to have you here. I'm so excited for this chat. So everyone, kat is one of my most delicious clients. Well, they're all delicious clients, but Kat has been working with me for the last over 12 months now. She is in my current round of the Pleasurepreneur Mastermind and signed up for the next one. So if you're thinking of joining, know you'll be in really lovely, nurturing, supportive, non-judgmental company.

Regan Figg: 0:42

And Kat is a course creation coach who, from what I have seen and she's going to tell us a little bit more about what she does and who she works with but from what I have seen she not only helps her clients bring their courses to life, but she helps them to navigate all of the other stuff that comes up as we are birthing our business babies into the world. She is an absolute powerhouse and an incredible woman that you would want to have in your corner, especially if you are bringing a new course to life. So welcome Kat, so great to have you here. Can you tell us a little bit about you? This is the question, right, like oh, tell us a bit about you and what do you do?

Kat Thomson: 1:34

Sure, absolutely you. This is the question, right, like, oh, tell us a bit about you and what do you do, sure, absolutely? Um, well, firstly, I am a mom of two that my kids are six and eight years old and, um, my background is as a high school teacher and you know, I taught in crazy places like a British prison and aquariums, and I taught at university and, uh, yeah, motherhood I guess like really cracked me open and I had some, um, I had two miscarriages before my children and that whole process, uh, yeah, I guess really opened the way for these little voices that I'd always sort of known were there to say hang on, the way you're doing things is not actually how you want to be living your life. And, um, yeah, really planted the seed fast forward to now.

Kat Thomson: 2:22

And I, you know, I help expertise-based women, mothers create profitable, impactful, fulfilling courses. You know, without the hustle, the burnout and the overwhelm, I really, in the, the whole narrative, the hustle narrative, or particularly in the course creation world, it's all like. You know, make it in 40 days, do it make a course in two hours? And you know, for us multi-passionate women, that just doesn't work. We've got too many balls that we're juggling in the air, and so you know the narrative that I want to introduce and and is that let's create a sense of spaciousness, let's go about this in a really conscious way, and so you know, my way is like the conscious course creation way, and we can make it work. You can absolutely reach your goals and but you get to choose how you do that. Right, and you've helped me get there myself.

Regan Figg: 3:14

Yeah, yeah. Well, you're absolutely pleasurepreneur through and through, and I love that you're then sharing that with your clients and this is perfect. You're the perfect person to have on this podcast, because it is the Pleasurepreneur podcast. We want to make sure we do things in a way that feels really good whilst achieving the results that we desire. Right, absolutely, yeah. And so what has felt like you know, the most expansive type of thing that you have, that you have done in your business or that you have grown into, like let's talk about some expansion, some growth, like what has felt like a big growth for you, whether that's in a internally or in your business, or both.

Kat Thomson: 3:59

Yeah, goodness, so many things. But the first word that definitely comes to mind is my capacity. And I remember in the early days saying to you, you know, like I know I want to do all these things, but I'm really at capacity already. How do I, how do I create a business whilst being the mother that I choose? You know I desire to be and but I'm already like running on, you know, on thin air kind of thing. And so capacity in terms of how much I can hold myself and my ability to hold all the mind drama that comes up, and my ability to my capacity to have, you know, work with my partner in our relationship and to hold space for my children.

Kat Thomson: 4:48

And then capacity to, I remember, like you know, building out these systems that work for me in my business and my capacity to work with my clients. And like all of those things didn't exist a couple of years ago. Right, and yeah, so it's definitely, and I know I know a lot of people relate to this. There's just so much like internal, invisible work that we need to do before that kind of is externally seen by everybody else if that makes sense, yeah, you're right.

Kat Thomson: 5:29

And then I think, yeah, just my confidence to, as all the challenges come up and the mind drama comes up. You know so much imposter syndrome, so much like perfectionism, so many like shoulds, and you know there's always like a new loop and a new cycle going around in that comes through, you know, as new things come up in life and you've really helped me, you know, provided me with space to move through those but also strategy, and I'm getting provided me with space to move through those but also strategy and I'm getting, you know, much, much better at at moving through those things quickly. So you know, my confidence in myself to to move through those things has, you know, like during my last, my last launch, the platform I was going to use it I realized that, despite all of this research I'd done, it actually couldn't do a really significant thing and I needed it to do. And so mid-launch I switched platforms and it felt like a lot. But a couple of years ago I think I would have melted down and just kind of thrown in the towel and put my head in the sand.

Kat Thomson: 6:40

And in this case I was able to, you know, move through that within two or three days pretty confidently and just make it work. So yeah, confidence in like my own ability that way. But also, you know, I don't snap at the kids as much, I don't get so angry with my partner, I don't get so resentful with him, I don't get so angry with my partner, I don't get so resentful with him. There's a confidence that, like, I can allow myself to enjoy things, that confidence that I know I can give myself a permission slip to say actually, no, I'm not going to do that. Or like, let's do this in a fun way, in a way that feels good.

Regan Figg: 7:21

Yeah, and I feel like that there. I know that's kind of like like you shared that at the end there but I feel like that stuff that happens in the background that increases the capacity and improves your confidence, and things like that. When you're allowing yourself to do more things that bring you pleasure, whether that's within your business or just within your life or within your family, you know that creates that like, adds to that fuel that you have in order to make the decisions that are going to be a lot more aligned with you, in order to feel more confident in yourself, in order to have an increased capacity you know, yeah, absolutely, as you say, like let pleasure lead, and before I met you it was always like you know, follow the breadcrumbs is what I would say, and um, now it's like follow the pleasure of breadcrumbs or something like that yeah, yeah, that's what I did for one of my last like free experiences.

Regan Figg: 8:18

you know, in the lead up to the mastermind launch, for some reason, I just had this desire to talk about like launching with pleasure and I thought, no, that doesn't really like. You know, in my mind, logically, that didn't make sense. And so I kept like going through all these different scenarios and be like, okay, well, I could do this first and then that thing. And then I was like like maybe I should just take my own advice and just let pleasure lead, like what would bring me pleasure, what do I desire? And it was so great. And like in hindsight, I'm like that's why that had to come first. I love that. I chose to do that Like the strategy. The desire and the pleasure is the strategy, and when we have the confidence to follow that, you know, not only does it fuel us and it feels good, but we're like, oh okay, like it was taking us somewhere.

Kat Thomson: 9:04

there is an intelligence to that yeah, that's why I love working with you, because you um, you, you like, you live, what you speak, and you always find, like the simplest route through um, and that is pleasure driven or desire driven. But you just have this ability to be like. You know we can make, we can do these huge, we can have these big ambitions, but we don't have to make it complicated. We can, like, really simplify this and make it feel good and and um, yeah, that is one of your superpowers, for sure oh, thank you.

Regan Figg: 9:42

My, we're talking about simplifying things and making things feel good. Is there anything that you can think of that like if somebody is listening to this and they want to create their own course and maybe they're experiencing some of the things that you've talked about earlier, like imposter syndrome, like, maybe, fear of judgment, lack of confidence, if they're experiencing those kind of things and they want to create their own course, what might be a kind of really simple step for them to take in terms of starting or mapping out their course?

Kat Thomson: 10:16

Yeah, well, number one I was actually. We were having this reflection in my own group coaching container this morning about how all the, the steps that everybody realized that they took, that they didn't need to take, they you know the, the mistakes, as they don't want to call them, but you know because we learn from those. We are where we are because of the choices that we made. But, looking back, don't start by like shopping around for like all the you know the platform and all the tech. Don't start there like get super, super clear on um, like your end game. Why are you creating a course? What's the benefit for you? This is actually a, an activity from you that's like I've modified from you. What is the? What is the benefit for you in creating the course? Benefit for your family, for your community, and then all the benefits for your clients and their families and their communities. Like, get super clear on that and spend some time thinking like, well, what would your ideal day look? And feel like I think a lot of people do like what your ideal day would look like, or your ideal week or your ideal month, but spend some time thinking about how you want it to feel and I guess in a really practical sense well, that is practical. But the first like to make sure that you kind of I guess Well, that is practical. But the first like to make sure that you kind of I guess, go down the right path for you as, like an educator, as a course creator, is to really understand the type of educational work that lights you up.

Kat Thomson: 11:56

So, are you somebody who actually gets quite drained by working with people or doing like a lot of face-to-face? Zoom calls that type of thing. Do you love like to curate resources? If that's the case, then, like, stay focused on that and do that work, because that will light you up.

Kat Thomson: 12:18

But that influences the type of offer and the type of business that you'll build as the type of offer and the type of business that you'll build. Then, at the other end, there's the people who, like, get really drained by curating, yeah, information, but they love face-to-face work and being in that space, co-creating with people in that way, and so the types of offers they might make are probably much more one-on-one, high-touch consulting, group coaching, mastermind-type programs. So their offer type will be like they don't need to work with as many people, because those sorts of offers tend to be a higher price point versus the other end, which is, if you're curating these resources, then often your offer will be like a lower price point, but then you reach many, many more people, um, and then there's the hybrid people who are in the middle, who love a bit of both and want to do both, and and so it's really important, I think, to get clear on which type of you know in sort of business speak, it would be like what business type of like a founder type you are.

Kat Thomson: 13:27

And so getting really clear on what lights you up, what drains you, and then building from there, because that will then influence, like you know, the type of course and program or how you're going to educate or how and then how you go about your marketing strategy, that type of thing that's so great, that's such great advice, like how do you want it to feel and how do you want to deliver it in a way that feels aligned to you?

Regan Figg: 13:49

Yeah, before, like they're great foundations. I love that so much. And instead of like playing business, I call it, which sounds really rough. I mean, I did a lot of this as well at the start of my business, because you feel like you just want to be busy, but then you can fall into the trap of like, okay, so I'll get business cards made, and I will. I never got business cards made, though. I'll make a website. Like I'll start researching. Oh, I'm not educated enough, I'll do another course or maybe I'll get another qualification and then the actual business itself and the help that you want to offer clients and the work that you want to do in the world just like it's like this can getting kicked down the road.

Kat Thomson: 14:32

Yeah, yeah, and so yeah on that. Like you know, I'll do another course. Um, like, just recognize that you know enough and that you are ready to get started. There are always people who are a few steps behind you that want to know what you know, although they haven't lived the experience that you have yet. Like, you've got that lived experience and that wisdom and you embody something you can help others with that and, yeah, there's no better time than now to get started Truly.

Regan Figg: 15:03

Yeah, so what have been some of the actions that you have taken that have really moved the needle in growing your business? Like talking about like one end of the spectrum of the actions we can be taking in our business with, like making logos, business cards, creating websites, like getting more educated, and not to say anything of those, those things are wrong. But like up the other end of the spectrum, what have been some of the great like actions that you've taken or skills that you've improved on in order for you to grow your business and call in your clients and begin working with people?

Kat Thomson: 15:36

Yeah, Big question, I think, first of all, I really needed to own and claim that I wanted to be a businesswoman and I needed to stop hiding that from my family and trying to like squirrel it away into pockets of time that no one else saw. That was like a really big internal shift for me. Um, and we did a lot of work on that together and yeah. So then, kind of being able to kind of get my head out of the sand and get super, super clear on what did I want and how, how could that actually roll out over? You know, how will that fit into all the other things that are priorities for me as well right now? Um, so a step before that, I guess, is like getting help.

Kat Thomson: 16:40

Um, I got, yeah, trying to do everything by myself, that narrative of like, oh I can do that by myself, oh, I can do that by myself, like I really needed to break that and, you know, begin working with someone.

Kat Thomson: 16:55

And I chose you and I do not regret it for a second, because signing up initially to work with you felt outrageous and audacious and I hid it, I didn't tell my partner for a long time and I haven't regretted it for yeah, regretted it for a second, because we've gone so far beyond what my hopes and dreams were actually. And yeah, so get help. Stop trying to do it all by yourself. Like we have our genius zones, the things that come naturally to us and that we're, you know, we're really, really we're good at, and then let's just get help in for the rest. We don't need to be like a genius at absolutely everything. Then let's just get help in for the rest. We don't need to be like a genius at absolutely everything. Like just work to your strengths, know your superpowers and then get support for everything else, which you know, in this case, was for me working with you as a coach and joining the mastermind, and it's awesome. Um, thanks the. What are some?

Regan Figg: 17:59

other actions.

Kat Thomson: 18:04

I think continuing to work on my own energetics as well, like I need to be in a grounded and centered place to be able to call in other people.

Regan Figg: 18:15

That's huge, and we could even like rewind slightly there, because you've also been calling in people.

Regan Figg: 18:25

You know you've been taking the action to put together like your freebie and like call in your ideal clients, and do you know what I mean? You know you had you talked about the, the platform that you used and how, even though you'd done the research, it wasn't like perfect, you didn't really actually do what you wanted it to do. And even though something like that happened, you still took the action to kept calling people in and onboarding people, and you know. So I think that's one of the things that I have seen from you that, whilst, yes, you have been doing the inner work and you have been so coachable, like taking the action behind the scenes and laying those foundations and internally, you've also done the work outwardly as well, in terms of meeting your discomfort of selling, in terms of calling in and understanding who your ideal client is. Getting really clear on that, um, you know, sharing your like amazing freebie that went really well. Do you know what I mean? Like so you have done, you've taken the action to actually call in clients yeah, thank you for that.

Kat Thomson: 19:35

And I think meeting the discomfort of selling was a huge one, and you know there's always new layers, but that breaking through that, that ceiling initially, um, was terrifying. But the work that we'd done made me feel like, yeah, this is possible. I know I can do it like, and I knew that I can do it, but it's just actually showing up. It's so easy when we're just doing this work by ourselves, like keeping it hidden to not actually take that step out into the world and really like stake our claim and go.

Regan Figg: 20:10

You know I'm here, let's do this yeah and I think that's probably like talking about busying ourself but not actually taking action that moves the needle to increase our income, or calling more clients to help, or you know, I think that I just lost my train of thought. Where was I at?

Kat Thomson: 20:33

Not being busy, not busying taking action. That's what.

Regan Figg: 20:37

I was going to say, yeah, thank you, I've got it. Yeah. So I think that's oftentimes doing the stuff that doesn't really move the needle is just us feeling productive but avoiding the selling, avoiding the discomfort, you know yeah, I did that for years.

Kat Thomson: 20:54

I spent, I wasted a lot of money keeping myself busy and, like to be fair, I didn't know any better. But once you know better, you do better right so um, now that we're in Regan's space, we know better, so we can do better oh, thanks, kelly.

Regan Figg: 21:15

All right, so, talking about um things that have moved the needle for you, what do you feel like has been one of the best, perhaps, decisions that you have made in terms of growing your business?

Kat Thomson: 21:33

Working with you.

Regan Figg: 21:35

Okay, thank you.

Kat Thomson: 21:37

Seriously though, because I was stuck in my head. I know that wasn't kind of necessarily what you were asking for, but, you know, as an example of getting help, like recognising that I was stuck in my head and that I was sort of treading water and waste, I was learning so much but I wasn't taking the actions that would move the needle, as you say. So, um, and you know, I'm recognizing in myself then that, um, I work really well, being able to collaborate and bounce ideas off and show up, just as I am, and I think that so many of us women relate to that, that's, you know, how women connect is through, is through shared, you know, talking and sharing those experiences. So, yeah, that's a hundred percent.

Regan Figg: 22:39

Thank you.

Regan Figg: 22:40

It's so great to hear as well, and it's it's also something that like at the moment I'm talking about selling right, so I'm going to be running Swoon and by the time that this podcast comes out, I'll have already done it but it's all about, like, falling in love with selling and it's about this idea of taking away.

Regan Figg: 22:57

I think sometimes, when it comes to us selling, and why we do actually busy ourselves with other stuff and not actually grow our businesses in a way that feels good for us, is because there is this idea of like, oh, it's all about me, you know like, yes, you know I've been able to support you and help you and give you guidance and suggestions and different you know strategies and things like that. But also, like, you were the one that took that step that invested, that also needed to overcome probably a bunch of stuff to make that investment. So, do we want to like? Because I'm thinking about if there's listeners out there who want to invest, whether it's in the mastermind with me or in something else in their business. What would you say to them about, you know, overcoming any of that resistance to investing in themselves if it's something that they want to do?

Kat Thomson: 23:47

Yeah, it's yeah. Firstly, sorry I'm just going to actually pause for a second.

Regan Figg: 23:59

No, that's okay. That's kind of a big question too. Did you want a different question?

Kat Thomson: 24:04

oh no, I just have a? Um, a neighbor who's just got some mental health challenges and she just walked past and I thought she was about to like come in, so I just had like this moment of like um, but she's gone now, so it's fine. Um, so that's why I said a wobble. I was like, okay, this would be like I need to just go and stop it, but she's all good. Yeah, no, we can do the question, that's fine. So the question can you re-ask it, and then we'll just restart.

Regan Figg: 24:39

I reckon I've got one that's a bit more fun. Okay, all right, so I always do, so I know where to cut. Yeah, all right, so okay. So talking about you know doing things that feel good and leading with pleasure. How has the concept of leading with pleasure and being driven by desire changed how you approach your business?

Kat Thomson: 25:11

Oh, it is completely yeah, completely changed how I go about my business, because everything before used to be everything I, everything before used to be everything I did before used to be led by all the shoulds, all this noise that I hear from social media like, do this, do this, and it's just like it was so overwhelming and then I was just caught in this, like, but I should be doing this, I should be doing this, and now, like, I get to like, listen to what I want to listen to, and then that becomes, you know, part of this, this.

Kat Thomson: 25:45

I think of it like a big kind of basket of knowledge that I have, and then I get to ask myself, well, what would feel good? And I can make a more informed decision about that based on everything else that I've collected before, that you know, that knowledge that I've listened to, or my own lived experience, and so, rather than these being like competing devotions, it's like, but I just always let pleasure or like you know what I desire, lead the way, and so, like, as I said before, like I I've never regretted following the breadcrumbs, even when I haven't known why, like logically in my head that wouldn't seem like the logical next step. I've never regretted it, and now I think of those as like desirable breadcrumbs and follow those Does that make sense.

Regan Figg: 26:39

Yes, I love that. I've never regretted following the desirable bread, bread crumbs which is hilarious because I'm gluten-free.

Regan Figg: 26:48

So the desirable gluten-free bread crumbs. And do you feel like you know because I think sometimes we might have this perception not us, obviously, as pleasurepreneurs, but know I think within the world of business there can be this idea of doing things that you desire just because you want to doing things that feel good and enjoyable and bring you pleasure Like this kind of a concept that doing those things and taking that, the pleasure led, you know pathway or following your desires, is like kind of fluffy and it won't actually get you anywhere in your business and it's like you know surrender and do nothing. Has that like whole kind of concept and strategy of being pleasure led and desire driven in your business? Has that actually created results for you in your business?

Kat Thomson: 27:45

Absolutely.

Kat Thomson: 27:46

Firstly, it has allowed me to own the fact that I'm actually quite an ambitious person and that, like you know, I've got big dreams for myself and my family and where we want to be.

Kat Thomson: 27:59

Secondly, things that may not have felt so pleasurable before, like this, this way, this you know philosophy, like allows us to find the pleasure and make them pleasurable, like do them in a way that feels good, because, yeah, there's stuff in business I don't want to have to do, but I get to like do it in a way that feels good and that's amazing. And so, in terms of like results, well, my, yeah, my first big launch, I was hoping to get 10 people in my free event and then, you know, hoping from that maybe I'd get a couple, two or three people into my group coaching program, and, you know, we did it in a way that felt really good and stretched my capacity to show up where I could, and that meant that I, instead of getting 10 people in that free event, I got 55 and then from that like totally smashed my like goal for my group coaching program and it's just been like that's awesome, like that's that's living the dream, that is my desire, that's like I have attained that goal and it is creating.

Kat Thomson: 29:25

You know, for me it's all about freedom and fulfillment in my time, my energy, my health and my wealth. And you know, here I am beginning to live that.

Regan Figg: 29:36

Yeah, yeah. So just to be clear for the listeners, that your first freebie launch that's what you're talking about here it was your first ever like free experience that you launched. That you had like 55 people. Did you say join, yeah, yeah, and from that then you created a five-figure launch, a five-figure course program, like yeah, and like I can, I can, I can, I could.

Kat Thomson: 30:07

My first goal was to cover my costs, like you know, for all the things for um, all the tech or all the you know, for coaching, that kind of thing. And so, yeah, remember when, um, I was able to start paying you from like the money I was making in my business rather than like money that you know from my part-time job that I still have, so that was such a milestone that felt so good, yeah so good and do you think that that has been your favourite result so far from being in the Mastermind?

Kat Thomson: 30:44

Yeah, that's one of them. The other one was, I think, when I had this sudden desire to, it was actually to see if I could have fun making money, and I was like I'm going to put together this little kind of coaching three-week coaching package offer. I've got space for three people, I've got capacity for three people, and I put it out there and I got four. Yeah, and like that was fun. And that was really the first time I put an intention out with the word fun in there. You know, like, can I make money with having fun? And yeah, my goal was three and I got four. So, like, what other evidence do you need?

Regan Figg: 31:39

So good and I love how you approached it in the sense of like, can I have fun making money? I think that would be a thought, a concept, an idea that probably wouldn't cross many people's minds, because I think the idea of making money needs to be like it's seen as it needs to be hard work and you need to struggle and you know, for example, launch periods. You're just going to be stressed and exhausted by the end of it. Like, if you want to make it a 10 figure, a 10 figure wow, look out. A 10 figure. A 10 figure wow, look out. If you want to make like a 10K or like a five figure launch, you know that's great, but you'll probably be exhausted, burnt out, you know, by the time you actually then run the program. So I love that. Just that is a thought that just popped into your mind as a total possibility and just like you went with it, let's play with it.

Regan Figg: 32:28

When you are coming from a place of pleasure and doing what it is that you desire and you start to see the results in your business, that adds more and more evidence that this is absolutely, totally possible, and then that increases your competence to do that, and then you continue to create these results. Meanwhile, you are avoiding the depletion and avoiding burnout. Depletion and avoiding burnout Is there something that you how do I put this? Well, let's talk about like balance then. Is there something that feels like it has brought you? Do you feel like the mastermind has brought you such balance, or has also created results in your business as well as in your family? I know you sort of touched on this earlier, um, but yeah, like what have been some results for you outside of your business from what we have, what you've learned in the mastermind and what we've done working together?

Kat Thomson: 33:27

yeah, it's interesting, like we call it like a business mastermind and yet so often, like most of the work, that the stuff that I bring in there is actually well, I'd probably say, 50% of what I bring in is like business strategy kind of stuff, and then um the other half would probably be just stuff that's going on in my life. That's 100 like they're not separate and that's the thing it's like you can you can see how they're. They're all interconnected, and so was the question um other things in my life.

Kat Thomson: 34:04

Yes, like where this work has worked in other places in my life. That the question. Yeah, yeah.

Regan Figg: 34:09

Some other results like yeah, maybe in your family, in relationship outside of business, just in the way you feel, perhaps yeah, no definitely um.

Kat Thomson: 34:19

Okay, so probably the number one thing is my ability to um have difficult conversations with my partner for sure, and have I've been able to have conversations now that I've been putting off for years? Wow, like that was those. Those moments have been really monumental, for sure yeah, yeah, I love on a day-to-day basis, my capacity to not get so grouchy at bedtime. Yeah, that was always such it's like I'm done by then, and so that's always been such a triggering part of my day and, um, yeah, it's not an issue anymore that's so amazing.

Regan Figg: 35:03

It's like join the mastermind and enjoy bedtime Bonus. I'll add that into, like the tagline make multi, four figure and five figure months and enjoy bedtime. Yeah, because you're getting to the end of the day and you don't have, like this really low reaction threshold. You know you've got this buffer because you haven't exhausted yourself with work, you haven't drained yourself doing shit that doesn't feel good for you, that doesn't align with you, you know.

Kat Thomson: 35:32

You're doing things your way, like how empowering, how fortifying, you know, yeah, and, as you said before, like, I'm doing the things that fuel my fire. So, yeah, it's both of those, isn't it? I'm not doing the things that drain me and I'm doing the things that actually light me up, and you know those, like, yeah, and it genuinely does fuel me and lights me up, and that's been a big learning. Is that? Um, something we haven't really touched on is that I was extremely burnt out before I started working with you and my health has really, really suffered and it's been going on for, know, trying to get clear answers for a little while, and a big piece of this journey and letting pleasure lead is that I'd really like I'd become scared to do more because I was so scared of getting so tired, but now what I know is that I get to do more of the stuff that does light me up and it does fuel me.

Regan Figg: 36:33

so now I'm doing more I might be doing, I'm doing more of the right stuff yeah, that's such a great catch, like such a great realization or insight, that you can actually do more, especially if it is the stuff that lights you. Especially if it is the stuff that lights you up, like if it's the stuff that lights you up, of course you can do more. You've got a greater capacity for that.

Kat Thomson: 36:57

Yeah. Cause I feel like one of my purposes here on earth is to be like a mom, but I do feel like I have another purpose, which is to do this work and like it's so awesome to get to the end of the day and be like I was on purpose today and that was fun and like I feel good and yeah, yeah.

Regan Figg: 37:13

So fulfilling.

Kat Thomson: 37:15

Fulfilling, that's the word. Yes.

Regan Figg: 37:17

Yeah, yeah. Now talking about the mastermind, safe to say you have created some really great results. You've enjoyed the process. Is there anything outside of the results that you've created that you love about the mastermind?

Kat Thomson: 37:32

Obviously, I one of the benefits, I think, of joining a mastermind as opposed to doing like one-on-one coaching is that you're going through it with, like other people at the same time who are experiencing the same thing, and I like I'm a huge believer that I get so much more out of it by listening to how others. You know that might be something that I've also been through or I haven't been through yet, but hearing it through their lens allows me to kind of examine my own experience from different angles, and so I like deepens my own understanding of that, or like how quickly I can move through a challenge, for example.

Regan Figg: 38:15

Yeah, does that make sense? Yeah, it does. Yeah, of course, like, and also to the part of like seeing other people experience that you don't feel alone, then, and doesn't make you feel as though I don't. I'm thinking for myself. You know, it's so easy when we are solopreneurs, to be building our own business and think like, oh, maybe I'm just doing the wrong things, or I'm doing the right things in the wrong way, or, you know, knowing what other people are moving through as well, and seeing how you know they are navigating things, seeing the, the things that are then working for them, and and watching how that unfolds Learning from other people's mistakes is such gold, yeah it really is.

Kat Thomson: 38:55

And even just you know, they articulate things that you haven't been able to put words to yet, and so, yeah, that kind of just makes that part of your world make more sense. But, yeah, absolutely Knowing you're not alone, particularly when alone, particularly when, um, you know, as a, as a working mom, all of my friends are professionals and, like, I love them, but they often won't ask me about how my business is going, and it's not any fault of theirs, it's just that they don't understand the journey of becoming an entrepreneur, and so, um, having, yeah, having a group of people who are, like, who know exactly what you're going through, is it is priceless, for sure.

Regan Figg: 39:38

Yeah, yeah, you're so right. And having other people to celebrate with you, I think, like of I could tell like my mom or like friends, as you sort sort of said, like I could have celebrations with my friends about my business, and they would be like, yeah, cool, like not knowing, like what I've traversed to get there, or, um, yeah, so that's definitely something that I see as well as being super beneficial thank you.

Kat Thomson: 40:06

They don't nobody else, unless they've kind of done all that internal work to start with. They don't realize how much it takes to get to whatever yeah.

Regan Figg: 40:14

It reminds me of my like lovely uncle who he makes. He's a boiler maker and he makes these like tandem bikes, like all different combinations. He's even got his own bike that's got like a crate on the front for his dog and all this sort of stuff and he lives away. But whenever I see him he likes to spend so long like showing me like all the different bikes and whatever. I'm not really interested and it's not because I don't care or I don't love him, I'm just not that interested.

Regan Figg: 40:41

And same thing as you said, like it's not a problem with friends and things like that, but it's so good to like have your own little club where you get to like froth on business stuff and you get to talk about like the hoops that you've jumped through and the results you've created and like all the little milestones you know as well as the big ones. So yeah, that's what I also love about a group coaching container. So last question then, if we're talking mastermind, if someone is listening and wondering if the mastermind is for them, like what would you say to them?

Kat Thomson: 41:14

Well, if you're wondering if the mastermind is for you, then I would say that that is your pleasurable breadcrumb and to claim it.

Regan Figg: 41:22

Yeah.

Kat Thomson: 41:23

Yeah, I have never regretted any of those sorts of decisions, for sure.

Regan Figg: 41:28

Yep, that is so great, that's like a plus. Student answer pleasurepreneur. Student answer cat.

Kat Thomson: 41:36

Yeah, well done uh, it's so like, it's so nice when you just, um, you know, fully believe it and see like how it's, you know, fully transformed my life and my business life. And, yeah, I'm fulfilled, there's money in my bank account. Like, my kids are happy, it's great.

Regan Figg: 41:58

Oh, that is. I love that wrap up. I'm fulfilled, there's money in the bank, my kids are happy, it's great, so good. Thank you so much. Now I want you to let me know. Is there anything else that you want to share, like talk, whether it's about course creation, whether it's about business, whether it's about pleasure, or blending business and family, like? Is there anything that you want to share with the listeners?

Kat Thomson: 42:23

Oh, um, maybe something that we haven't touched on is just how much of like um you know when you, when we become a mother, and sometimes we can feel like we've lost a part of ourselves or we don't really know ourselves as well as we used to, or you know some version of that. That um, that perhaps like business or whatever form of business you want to be in, or course creation, like, really use that as like um, an invitation or an opportunity to explore those, like to explore this new version of you Does that make sense.

Kat Thomson: 43:05

So, like um, you know, some of my background is in is in matrescence, training and um being. You know this transition that we go through as mothers, uh, and it affects every part of our life and we're becoming this new version, this new identity, and that in that process, um, we my neighbor just walking past uh, we can feel really lost and like we don't know who we are anymore and that sometimes taking like this type of journey, like creating a course or becoming um a businesswoman, is such a great way to like explore those edges of ourselves and these new parts of ourselves or how they've changed and, yeah, yeah, really embrace that as as a like, a really powerful strategy to feel like, yeah, I know who I am now.

Regan Figg: 43:56

That is such great advice, kat. Yeah, like and it makes me think, like the word comes up in my head of like curious, like, just get curious. Yeah, what could happen if you decided to create a course? Or what could happen if you decided to like go all in on your business? Like, what could happen if you invested in coaching, in the mastermind? What could happen if you explored that you know? Yeah, let's see questions and so much fun to play with.

Regan Figg: 44:26

Right, yes, yeah, and also, too, like what you pointed out, there is that, like business really is a, it's like an autobahn of personal growth it's like yeah, it's like personal growth at hyper speed because, yeah, all of that stuff comes up for you, whether it's imposter syndrome or self-doubt or people pleasing or like any of that kind of stuff that will show itself in business, and I think that that connects back to what you were talking about earlier. There is some so many like internal shifts that happen in growing your business. That really adds to your business growth, even though you can't yet see it on the outside. But these are the pieces that, like the parts of the foundation that are helping to stack for the next level and the next level and the next level.

Kat Thomson: 45:20

So yeah, and like so many people, so many women I've worked with like almost didn't get started because they're like, well, I don't really know what, like who I am, like I don't really know what, like who I am, like I don't really know what I stand for and, rather than like, use this as the vehicle to explore that yes, oh, I love that so much.

Regan Figg: 45:40

Thank you so much, kat. Now where can people find you? They?

Kat Thomson: 45:45

can find me. My website is cattompsoncom. My Instagram is cattompsoncourses. That's really like, yeah, mostly my playground, so come and meet me over there. And yeah, come and send me a DM if you've heard this. And yeah, I'd love to hear what you think Amazing.

Regan Figg: 46:12

Now I can imagine the people who are listening who are like oh yeah, I want to create a course and we talked about your free offering. That immediately got 55 people in there, Like are you going to be running that again? Do you have a link that we could send people to if they want to get on the wait list for that, or is it something they can access?

Kat Thomson: 46:31

to if they want to get on the wait list for that, or is it something they can access? Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to be relaunching again at the start of 2025 and yeah, I would love to share my a link with you and, um, yeah, if anyone's interested, come join the wait list and yeah, I'll keep you updated amazing. Thanks so much, kat thank you, thanks so much for having me, thanks for everyone listening Pleasure.

Regan Figg: 46:51

It's my pleasure. I don't think it ever gets old. I'm pretty sure all my listeners and people on Instagram are like oh god, regan, it's like my version of a dad joke. Yeah.

Kat Thomson: 47:05

Yeah, we know you for it. Yeah, you know I love you for it, thanks so much Kat for it.

Regan Figg: 47:10

Thanks so much, kat. I really appreciate that. I feel really loved on oh good, I'm glad. Well, you know, it's been a transformative time yeah, and does it feel really good for you to like, recap, revisit, reflect on some of the things that you've achieved and the results you've created?

Kat Thomson: 47:29

yeah, I was trying to remember what it was like before I signed up and I can't even remember that time uh-huh, yeah, yeah, wow, that is powerful, yeah, amazing.

Regan Figg: 47:45

Is there any last words that you want to share about the mastermind?

Kat Thomson: 47:51

Go for it. Do it, even if you don't know how you're going to make it work. It will trust yourself. Yeah, yeah, I've done that. I've never regretted it. It's always worked out. Thanks so much.

Regan Figg: 48:08

Thanks for having me Pleasure. What are you up to for the rest of the afternoon, Um?