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Exploring Intimacy and Self-Love with Marissa Lynn Healing
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Marissa Lynn returns to share her incredible journey of transformation and empowerment through her training in sexological bodywork and somatic sex education that brought her all the way to Australia. Her adventure begins in Hawaii, where she rekindled a cherished friendship and discovered the magic of traveling solo. Marissa shines a light on the integrity and ethics of the Institute of Somatic Sexology, highlighting their trauma-informed approach and the meaningful welcome ceremony by Aboriginal people. Despite battling illness, Marissa's experience was enriched by the connection with the land and the power of spiritual awakening, underscoring the unexpected gratitude for Western medicine along the way.
Travel becomes a catalyst for personal growth, as Marissa reflects on the challenges and rewards of intense training abroad. Her story takes a mystical turn with a past trip to Haiti that sparked a life-changing spiritual awakening, showcasing the unique energy different lands offer. The conversation branches into the profound impact of embracing new cultures and experiences, balancing personal desires and partnership dynamics, and how aligning workout routines with the menstrual cycle can optimize well-being. Listeners are invited to explore the themes of body acceptance, intimacy, and empowerment, learning how somatic practices can foster a deep sense of self-love.
Personal sovereignty and curiosity in relationships take center stage as Marissa discusses the nuances of compromise within partnerships. Her personal story with her husband on navigating individual needs versus shared activities offers a relatable insight into maintaining personal space while enhancing connection.
This episode promises a rich tapestry of personal stories, professional insights, and transformative experiences, making it a must-listen for those on their own journeys of self-discovery and empowerment.
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Welcome back to the Nearly Enlightened podcast. I am your host, gianna Giarrusso, and I am joined by Marissa Heater. From Marissa Lynn Healing, she joins us again. If you haven't listened to her first episode, go back a couple. I think it was like September. Go back, listen to that episode if you want to know a little bit more about her, about what she does. Last time she left us she was about to embark on like a very life-changing trip and I'll let you take it away. Marissa, tell us about your trip.
Speaker 2:Okay, wow, it's like, where do I even begin? Yeah, so I went to the in-person training for sexological bodywork and somatic sex education in Australia, and so my travel journeys actually led me to go to Hawaii first and spend some time with a beautiful goddess that I am friends with, and it was a rekindling of our friendship and we did so much magic and Hawaii is its own entire portal that I feel like I need to go back to, and I kind of did that to break up the flight to Australia.
Speaker 1:I know, because that is like a full, like 24 hour, especially from where we are like more on, like towards the eastern coast of the United States.
Speaker 2:That's a big trip coast of the United States. That's a big trip. Yeah, I highly recommend, if you are going to Australia, to like look into flying to Hawaii first, cause it actually saved me so much money. Um, which is ridiculous, like that it was cheaper for me to go to Hawaii for a few days than to just like fly straight.
Speaker 1:And like how awesome is that you got a little vacation too.
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, and so there are some, there are a few hands, there are like a handful of big things, like it was my first time ever traveling like really solo, and like arriving in a different country by myself, checking into a hotel alone, like all of those things were their own level of like empowerment and deepening my journey into self and trust in who I am and the decisions I make and my own intuition. Um, granted, australia is exceptionally safe, so pretty easy to do. Um, but, yeah, I, the training itself was so awesome Like I just have I really hold the Institute of Somatic Sexology, which is who I studied with and like really high regard because their integrity is so strong and especially when we're working in the realms of sexuality and Tantra. There is everyone has kind of heard the horror stories of, you know, people not having solid boundaries, I guess I should say, or facilitators not holding strong boundaries, and the mentors and the teachers that I worked with kind of joke that they're like teaching themselves into celibacy because the ethics are so strong around, like what you can and cannot do, and like the level of appropriateness, which I just love, actually, because it's just like it just creates such a container of safety, like when I arrived, and like our, you know, beginning like introduction is all of us like eye gazing and moving around the room and like connecting to each person and breathing together. And then we're going into like ethics and professionalism and the board of like professionalism that they're under, which is incredible. And then also the fact that our very first initial thing that we did there was a welcome to country with the Aboriginal people.
Speaker 2:So the Aboriginal people, who are like on this land, actually welcomed us in this beautiful ceremony and so it's just like the weaving that that training held of like still allowing the spiritual component and, while it not being maybe necessarily the main focus, like the main focus is being trauma, informed and it's educational and it's like an actual training versus, like you know, one of the things that they said is you're not really like here for your experience, like, you're having an experience always, but you're actually here to learn and to be informed and to be able to teach. And we had like small groups every single day where it was just like normalized, to be like okay, what do you need in this moment? Do you need to talk? Do you need to be held?
Speaker 2:What type of touch would be supportive for you right now in your nervous system and like leaning into, like oh, actually be really nice if someone just like played with my hair and because we're all in this, like really under these, like same ethics and like no one's sleeping together and things like that. It created this level of connection to where we could connect platonically but intimately and I mean I guess I could answer specifics on the things that we do later, like what, what exactly is this? But my personal journey a little bit was that I ended up getting really sick the second week and it was like really, I think for me, yes, I caught a virus, but I also think it was like unprocessed grief in my lungs, cause like I do think that grief is stored in the lungs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah and um and sometimes when we get sick, like that it's, it really is energetic and when you unlock that energetic component, like it speeds up the healing process. I've I've noticed that in my own healing journey, Like when I was 27,. I like never really get sick, but I was sick for over a month and I literally could not kick it and it was something that I was moving through energetically, Like it wasn't physical. I went and had all the blood work done. Like I was like why am I so sick? But once I unlocked those energetic components, everything shifted and it's almost like you was like why am I so sick? But once I unlocked those energetic components, everything shifted and it's almost like you're, like your DNA is being recoded.
Speaker 2:A thousand percent and like I feel like in the first few days I was there, I had like two huge experiences where, like through high erotic states of me, me like receiving as a client from one of the we were, we would like go back and forth between being a facilitator and being a client with our colleagues, essentially, and or the other people in the training. And there was one instance in which case I think it was like active receiving and I had this like really big kind of like Kundalini, huge sort of psychedelic experience, but it was just through my own breath, sound, movement, touch and the touch that I asked for from my facilitator or from this like person that was facilitating for me in this moment. And so I know that that like started opening up a lot of energy. And then the other instance happened and it was actually like a full circle thing from a psychedelic journey years ago, that like, which is why I always think it's so interesting how long it can take us to integrate medicine, because I I literally had the psychedelic journey like four years ago and it was like this trip and this moment through embodiment specifically, that the psychedelic trip actually finally made sense four years later. So I find it so potent how we can, when we work in the mystery, which is what the path of the feminine is, is trusting in the mystery, that we don't have to assign meaning to all in the mystery, that we don't have to assign meaning to all of the experiences that we have, and we get to let ourselves be surprised by God. We get to let God like open us up, or goddess or the universe, whatever language people want to use for that but we get to let that level of surprise and that happened.
Speaker 2:And, of course, like I feel like my system opened like so much and then the right after I got like really sick and I like broke my fever, thought I was past it and like just kept getting sick again. And I've never had that happen where, like I break a fever and then get sick right after I'm like wait, what's going on? Like why am I still sick? And that's what I, like you were talking about with when you were 27 is like I know that this is something beyond and I'd mentioned my brother and grief on this last podcast, and so it's so interesting that that's the story that's come up as soon as we start talking is I realized that I actually was fully afraid to let go because I'd had this instance when I did fully release a lot of trauma, and then the next day has like accident happened and I I basically came to a point when I was like I don't actually have to release if I don't want to, which is like sovereignty, like I can, I don't have to, I can grip onto this as long as I desire to and I trust that, like, if I do let go, no matter what happens, it's like in greatest alignment.
Speaker 2:And I actually had this is like so woo woo, but I actually had like a connection to my brother's soul, like I could like hear his voice and he's still alive. He's just like in this, like in between, all the time. So his cognition is very low, um, but I feel like his spirit really travels and I like had him basically tell me like if I hadn't done that release, I wouldn't have been able to because it was forgiving him for so much when his accident happened. I wouldn't have been able to, because it was forgiving him for so much when his accident happened. I wouldn't have been able to do the magic and the rituals that he led me through that allowed us to kind of stay in this unit and it was part of like my karmic path and his karmic path and our path together.
Speaker 2:Um, and so interestingly, he comes while I'm sick and I like feel him basically like let it go, like let all of this grief out, and it was like probably three nights in a row I just had like tons of sobbing and on the third night finally like let everything go To have experience like that, being so far away from home, like not having your people around, like that's a really hard thing to go through.
Speaker 1:That's like that's like the ultimate surrender right. Like you just have to move through those uncomfortable feelings like you're. There's no pushing it down at that point, Like you just have to move through that.
Speaker 2:Oh, a thousand percent. Just have to move through that, oh a thousand percent. And like I was so supported by the people in the group and I think that there is an element of them not knowing me so well that they could hold me in such a beautiful way, because they're like they were just completely in beautiful service, which was so cool. And, interestingly, I actually had a piece of a song bowl that I played for my brother after his accident all the time and that song bowl had broke and I had pieces of it with me and so I like did a ritual by a Creek because he loves fishing and this like forest, and it just as soon as I like let everything go, I instantly looked so much better, like I felt so much better.
Speaker 2:All of my health like came back and it was so wild to hold. Like learning during the day and then having to care for my body and being humbled so deeply because I went into the training. Like I've got this, this I've been studying in this type of work just like more in a lineage tradition for six years. Like now I'm just getting the sciency side and the western side and like this is going to be great and to be like. Actually, I'm completely humbled as like, far as I can be, just as soon as we think we know something, spirits like I have a way deeper level for you to learn. And, um, it ended up being like so crazy. Just, I always I was joking that I went from church camp to sex camp because the style of the training reminded me of church camp, that is so funny.
Speaker 2:Just like the way that like things were set up, I was like, oh my gosh, this is hysterical. I really come full circle in my life. The people I was with were so cool. It was so inspiring to be in a place where everything is so accepted. In a place where everything is so accepted and there were definitely like certain things, like my own judgments and limitations that I had to work through. And as far as getting sick like I definitely took more Western medicine than I ever do because I just didn't have access to anything else and like the humility of me always kind of judging ibuprofen or judging these other things that I never, that I like rarely interact with anymore, and then being like, actually I'm really grateful for western medicine right now, like thank you so much to science and western medicine in this moment, because I am in a rainforest in a foreign country and without it I would not be where I'm at.
Speaker 1:And to get through, like if anyone's been through any kind of certification process, it is grueling. Like, especially because you're taking in all of this new information, your brain is like completely on overdrive, like we used to joke all the time when we were going through like the booty yoga trainings. Like by the end of the day, your brain is mashed potatoes like you are. Like I possibly could not take in another like minuscule amount of information like I, my brain is going to start oozing out of my ears yeah, it was really intense and other people had also gotten sick.
Speaker 2:So we had this like cuddle puddle in the back of the room which turned into like a sick puddle basically of just like everyone who's sick just laying on the squishy stuff and then also moving through as much of the embodiment portion as our bodies could and the way that they could and doing as much hands-on body work as possible. But yeah, most of the days were like we'd breakfast was seven, 30. We'd be starting at eight, 55 and going until we'd have like breaks in between. But there are plenty of days that we wouldn't end until like eight or 9 PM for like two weeks and I was really sick for probably three days than that and then like somewhat sick for six. So it was manageable. And there was a couple. There was one day that we had a full rest day, so that was nice. And then Eric came and I got better right before my husband and my beloved arrived in the country and I was mostly better and I feel like as soon as I saw him, like all of my nervous system was just like safe.
Speaker 1:Relaxed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, relaxation, yeah, exactly, and he was so supportive the entire time and was just like so excited to get to me. Um, and then I'm pretty sure we were just like in full on bliss for the next, for like the rest of Australia and New Zealand, and we had so many magical experiences with land, like the places we got to visit and your pictures were incredible.
Speaker 1:I was like stalking every day, like what's she doing now? Where is she?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the it's just unreal, just completely unreal, and I feel like I'm I really do devote some of my life to animism and understanding how the frequency of land changes who we are and I felt that so strongly, like even just like New Zealand is so magical. The South Island is like its own little portal, but it's so peaceful. It's not like the intensity of, maybe, the Hawaiian Island initiation. It's more of this like fairytale, peaceful vibe. There are a couple of places that were pretty intense, but mostly it's yeah.
Speaker 1:It's funny because I talked about this.
Speaker 1:We talked about this a little bit on the podcast. When Michaela came on, she talked about Kundalini and she also went on like a very Epic yoga retreat to Portugal and like nothing brings you closer to God or spirit or, like you said, whatever you want to call it than traveling, because not only are you connecting with all of these people who are from different experiences, perspectives, cultures and you're getting a taste of their world, but it's the land itself, Like like God created this, like holy shit, it is so magical and I've had those experiences too. Like the first time I went out to Colorado and then when I moved there, I was just like so moved by the mountains there and you just look around and you're in awe and like you can't help but feel connected to God's spirit whatever you want to call it until you're in those positions, and then it's, it hits you Even if you don't believe, like you can't help but not believe, just by looking around, like you are part of this, like perfect creation, and it's like you said, it's humbling.
Speaker 2:I just got lost in your story of the mountains. Um, yeah, and that was like my very first spiritual awakening, was my first trip that I ever took out of the country. I went to Haiti on a mission trip and I had a spontaneous kundal awakening where I was like, oh, I'm not actually a Christian, huh, it's a lot more intense than that. I was at this waterfall where they do voodoo festivals and I actually don't know a ton about voodoo or anything like that, so I can't speak on anything really about it, to be fair, but I know that there was a magic to that land and like a portal to that waterfall, and I, my feet hit the soil and I honestly thought that I was dehydrated and was going to pass out, because I just started feeling like all of this energy and there was like symbols carved into the tree and they started glowing and I have no concept for any sort of altered state at this point. I am, and any anything that I had experienced, younger. I had like shut down and turned off and so, um, yeah, it was really destabilizing but ended up being really beautiful in the long run and I'm really grateful that the land gave me that initiation because it like shifted. That was definitely like the turning point, the quantum, really like the quantum leap and like, okay, no, you're going to take this next step. And that's what so much of this travel journey was for me. It was really this quantum leap into am I going to be all in on my business? Am I going to be all in on my soul's truth of?
Speaker 2:I believe pleasure is our birthright. I believe our nervous system should be attuned to what feels good for us, and so much of the training what we're doing is we're constantly asking ourselves, okay, what does feel good and why? What comes up when we try to act in a place of like, oh, I want to lean into this and I think it feels good, but for whatever reason, I feel shame, for whatever reason I'm judging myself, for whatever reason I'm judging someone else or shaming someone else for this type of pleasure in their life. And of course, there is nuance to this right, like it might taste good in a moment to eat a really sugary cake, but it doesn't make us feel good in the long run. And so there's always a balance of learning, okay, what feels good for me over a period of time, and playing in those dynamics as well, and that's something I support some of my clients with, not specifically around food, but just in general, around anything that's coming into us Like what is a true felt sensation of embodied pleasure.
Speaker 2:That is a lasting pleasure for my lifestyle. Um, because, like, there's certain like and what. Things are somewhat painful but actually end up being pleasurable right. Like when I go to the gym and I lift weights. I don't love the burn all the time, like sometimes I'm like ouch, this is like not fun. But when I'm able to bike all summer long through Chicago and I'm able to like pick up kids, when I babysit or help with families that I know and it's easy and I'm not tired and my body feels good, that's like a, that's like an embodied form of pleasure.
Speaker 1:I love reframing it that way because sometimes, like you know, yesterday I was kind of having this moment of like doing some backend work on my website and just like my automations, and that is like painful to me, that is like excruciating. It's like not the work that I want to be doing, but when it's done and when it's complete and when people can move through my website seamlessly and have a great experience and they're brought through a customer journey in a seamless way, like that makes that painful experience worth it. It makes it like you have to get through that, like there's no other way around it, right, like I had to sit here and just get it done.
Speaker 2:Like I had to sit here and just get it done A thousand percent.
Speaker 2:And a lot of times when it's like, when I look at my list and there's the things that I want to do the least when I get, when I just like lean into, like, okay, I'm actually gifting myself the space later, I'm gifting myself the pleasure of you know, in like that case for you, it's like you're gifting yourself the pleasure of efficiency and you're gifting yourself the pleasure of you know your clients being able to book easily and not have to text you a million times to figure out how to get into your work or get into the next thing, and it makes your life easier over time. So you're really giving yourself ease and you're like, okay, I'm doing this now to create this ease for me later. And I noticed that when I do that in my own life with like the bigger tasks, as soon as I like knock them out of the way, I'm like, oh, that actually didn't take as long as I thought it would, and it like it wasn't that bad. It wasn't that bad, Wouldn't you know?
Speaker 1:That is exactly the experience I had yesterday. I was like wow. I've been putting this off for three weeks and it literally took me 35 minutes yeah, I do the same thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what? So I guess people probably are might be asking like, what is sexological body work?
Speaker 1:Yes, and like what? If you go to like work with you, like, what does a session look like?
Speaker 2:Yes, this is such a great question. So it really depends on the person and what they want to work with, right? So the main thing that we are doing as sexological body workers or somatic sex educators is we are empowering people and understanding deeper self-agency and stepping into a deeper somatic mind-body connection, and so a big portion of it is we're horizontalizing the, horizontalizing pleasure in the body, and so it's not excluding genitals as a place of, it's not hyper focusing or excluding genitals, if that makes sense. So it really depends on what a person comes to me with. If someone comes to me with an issue such as like we can work on issues which I kind of hate, that languaging, but we can work on like blocks that are coming up for them around erotic energy or sexual energy in their life, such as lack of arousal, or, you know, some women feel like they have an inability to orgasm or they've never had that experience of orgasm. Um, what we can do is we can start to work with, you know, pleasure scales and pleasure mapping, and so if someone came to me with lack of arousal, we're going to start working with breath and mind connection first to see like, okay, where, where might we be numbing somatically in the body and then working with finding like okay, what is it like? How aroused am I touching my forehead versus like my big toe, and we start to map the entire body on what feels good and what doesn't feel good, because a lot of times when people are struggling with certain issues, especially around like lack of arousal or inability to orgasm, they're doing the same type of touch, the same way every time. So, clearly, if you're doing the same thing every time and you're not getting the result you want, there's got to be a change, and so we're really focusing on bringing the whole body in. And so we're really focusing on bringing the whole body in.
Speaker 2:So a session may look like you know one of my clients. She's working on pleasure mapping. She wants to be able to feel orgasmic energy all over her body, like decentralized from the genitals, like she has no issue orgasming and sex and with partners, and so what that looks like is, you know, mapping pleasure throughout the entire body. So it's hands on touch everywhere and yes, I do work with the vulva at times but hands on touch throughout the entire body space Okay, what, what feels good and where. And moving into those places of oh, actually like the backs of the knees are highly erotic, and how can that be woven into experiencing deeper sensation? Or for her, she'll like see colors and have these like bigger experiences. Um, another client of mine really struggles with body shame and this is a story that I recently shared like with her permission. But she came to me like with a lot of body shame, absolutely hating the way her body looks, especially like stretch marks on her stomach, which I know so many women struggle with. It's like so common.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I went to an all-girl high school.
Speaker 1:Like if you stepped into the locker room like these are conversations that you would hear and we were teenagers.
Speaker 1:And then I worked at Victoria's secret for a lot of my early adult life and being in the fitting room there helping women find the right bras that fit like same conversations would happen there.
Speaker 1:Like more often than not, you find that women have been kind of conditioned to hate their body and like I think even now with like I've talked about it with Kat on this podcast about wanting to change things about our face. Like I've talked about it with Kat on this podcast about wanting to change things about our face like plastic surgery has become like an explosion in our culture. Just like, oh well, if you don't like it, just like suck it out, tuck it, inject it. Like we're literally being conditioned to hate the way that we are down to like filters on our phone. Like we're distorting the way that we see ourselves. So like, of course, like we're always looking at ourselves through these like portrait filters that make us look absolutely perfect and then when we look in a mirror that doesn't have those capabilities, it's like, oh, I actually fucking hate myself a thousand percent and it's.
Speaker 2:You know, I always tell people I'm like any sort of body modification that you make, whether it's plastic surgery, to braces, to whatever the thing, whether it's a health or an aesthetic reason I tell people, like, spend a lot of time and embodiment and asking your body is this really the right choice for me? What is the intention behind this? What is this going to lead me to? Because there's so many possible things like and understanding the risks of that, understanding what goes into implants, understanding the possible risks of surgery and the possibility that you may feel the exact same way post-surgery, or even worse, or maybe it's better, maybe it is. You have this one thing that you've always wanted bigger boobs, whatever it is, and this surgery does give you that empowerment and does give you that confidence.
Speaker 2:Like, I don't know. I don't know people's journeys and also I know that, regardless, we should be falling in love with our bodies, no matter what, and we should be accepting and falling in love with how we are as is, and making any sort of decision based on a place of love and not a place of you're not enough. I need to fix you, I need to solve you and, yeah, so, like this client. She came to me with that and we actually worked with an undressing ritual, which was really fun. And so no mirrors, because mirrors could be really triggering, and so we worked with like dropping in with breath and sound and like finding where her safe space was and her understanding. Where in your body do you organically?
Speaker 2:feel safe and for her she was like when I close my eyes, like I love my energy, like I love how I feel in me, like eyes closed, no external world, like I love me inside and I was, was like amazing.
Speaker 2:So this is like where we're going to return over and over, and I believe it was in her first session. She would take off a piece of maybe like jewelry, and we're slowing it down so much that, like each earring, it's like okay, slowly, take, take it off, notice how it feels like coming out of the ear, notice the sound of the beads when they're like in your hand, noticing each like bracelet coming off and like doing it so slow that you can actually somatically connect to every sense while it's happening, because so often when we take things off, we're literally just like I'm just going to pull it off really quickly, just take my clothes off, get into the next phase. Um and so she, you know, moving through it slowly and then also moving through it quickly, like what does it feel like to rip one off your hands? And like noticing the energetics of that. Um and sorry, I feel like my cat is meowing in the background.
Speaker 1:No, it's okay. You I don't know if you could hear before, but my cats were like straight up brawling.
Speaker 2:That is so funny. Cats are insane. But yeah, so she eventually, you know, she got to a place of taking off and she would ask me to like turn away. So we played a lot with like the difference of what it feels like to take something off and to be witnessed versus taking something off and being in that safe space Noticing. How does it feel with eyes closed, eyes open. I'm going to be facing away Now.
Speaker 2:Ask like, whenever she would ask me to view her, what does it feel like to have my gaze on her? Where does she want my gaze to be? And like, even for so many women having the power to ask for these things and to actually like be like assertive about it right, because that was another thing that came up in the next session that I'll talk about in a minute is, like we have so often won't ask for what we want. We so often will be like, if you want to, would you, if you want to, you can turn and look at me. Versus I want you to witness me and like we've been conditioned and programmed to never actually fully speak what we want and what we desire and instead we do all of these like background ways of like, if you want to, maybe you could, instead of just saying I want you to. And so when she got to her stomach which I actually kept my back turned the entire time for that because that was the safest in her body, and I would slow down when she would ask me and be like, okay, what does your body say? Like your mind is quick to say do this or do that, what does your body really want right now?
Speaker 2:And she was in a closed eye state, feeling her stomach and with her eyes closed, after being in this sort of like meditative space of somatic connection, she started laughing, touching her stomach and she was like I actually think it's like so fun, the sensory like connection and difference as she's moving really slowly, touching different areas of her stomach, of the different texture of the stretch marks versus the regular smooth skin, and like she was like it actually feels so fun, like I love the way this feels. And she was just kind of lost for a few minutes, like exploring her stomach and this place of joy, and so when she opens her eyes, she was like oh. But when I opened my eyes and look at it once again, I hate it and I'm like, okay, well, let's slow that down. Like your felt sensation, your true embodied sense was I love the way my stomach feels and the belief of I hate my stomach. That's not your belief at all. That's not actually your belief, because when you're in your inner space, when you're connected to that soul space that we dropped in with that energy that you love, that feels true to you. That's your truth, as I love my stomach.
Speaker 2:The other belief that's society, that's your family, that's other people that have told you over time that, for whatever reason, this is wrong and you could just like see the shift and her energy and like the transformation. And she was like've, like even since she's loved it so much. And our next step was her actually asking me to like undress her and like take different things off in our next session. So it'd be really slow and working with the different energetics and really in that it was like her learning to ask for what she wanted, learning to ask and like how to use her voice. So these are a couple of client sessions.
Speaker 1:That's such powerful work and I really have to like just celebrate you for a moment, because that is such an intimate space and we have kind of like convoluted intimacy to think it's like this sexual. It's like intimacy is always the sexual thing between two or you know whatever people. But like intimacy doesn't have to be like like just that oh, a thousand percent.
Speaker 2:I mean intimacy, if you break it down, means into me, I see. So I'm just supporting people and seeing deeper into themselves. If erotic energy arises, it's okay, but it's not like a relational thing between us. They're in their own space, having their own experience and discovering and learning about their own body and what it's capable of. They're really pushing the boundaries of like, oh, what more could I possibly experience in my body, like you know so many, so many boundaries I hold in place. Like I'm fully clothed during every session I have with clients, I wear gloves when touching them, like various things like that. Like there's definitely that professionalism, in the same way that if someone was working with a medical professional and the patient was in a place of nudity, the medical professional would be clothed. Or a massage therapist is clothed, um and so right.
Speaker 1:Like it's not this it's not like a sexual experience, it's you're holding space for their experience to shift, like you had with that client, like to shift their the whole way that they view themselves exactly the whole way they view themselves, their whole ability to experience their body.
Speaker 2:Um, there's actually a really fun show on netflix if people get really curious called sex love goop, and it goes directly into the work that I do, um, and very similar work or like complimentary work. So anyone really wants to watch some clients sessions, you can go on Netflix and find it.
Speaker 1:So who would a session like? Who would it be for?
Speaker 2:So who would a session like? Who would it be for? It would be for really any person who wants to expand pleasure in their life or shift belief systems around their body or around erotic energy in general. I mean, my husband and I we were considering booking some sessions just for our relationship to even like up level to the next place, because we've been practicing Tantra for a handful of years and we're like, oh wow, there's even so many other places we could go.
Speaker 2:And with just a little bit of guidance or a little bit of direction on someone saying like, oh, marissa actually has some core erotic themes here, eric's core erotic themes are here. And having that outside perspective where we may not be able to communicate or see it, they can have that perspective and then be like, if you guys tried these set of things together, you would be able to really maximize your connection, which I think is super powerful. So it works for couples, it works for individuals, it works for people. You know my training is trauma informed. That being said, like we're not intentionally trying to go into trauma, but if trauma arises it can be really potent to hold someone through that release and then ideally, if someone has a history of trauma. They've already been working with a therapist or working with someone with that and it's like a complimentary service for that it's so interesting to me, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, like we do so much with like a whole wheel of consent and so many like finding out the different ways that we don't even understand consent with our own bodies, let alone how to have consent with other people, or the or the back and forth of like oh, I thought that I was like in service to this person, but I'm actually accepting energy from them and like knowing how to move into like who is this for and what is the dynamic like? One of the things we talked about that stood out to me because so many people do this all the time is like tolerance is not consent. If If we're tolerating something, we're not in consent. If I'm tolerating a job, I'm not consenting to this. If I'm tolerating anything like, that is my nervous system and my body bracing. I'm literally teaching my body that it's not okay and I'm putting my body in a situation of being outside of consent while I tolerate through this experience. So cue the Taylor Swift song tolerate it.
Speaker 1:You know we love her here.
Speaker 2:We know we love her. I get to go to her concert in two weeks. I can't wait.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, that's so exciting.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you all about it later.
Speaker 2:But yeah. So you know it's it's like instead like it's. You know I can view doing the dishes as tolerating it, but if I have a mindset of I have a willingness to support my house, I have a willingness to do that. There's a big difference between tolerating and being willing to do something, and it's completely a felt sensation. As soon as I noticed that I'm just tolerating something. It's the way that my pelvic floor is clenching, that my hands are like this, that my mind is angry, that my jaw is tight. All of that is me bracing and my body is holding that information as like literally screaming help me instead of oh. I'm actually like. Literally screaming help me instead of oh, I'm actually like.
Speaker 2:Even though I don't love doing the dishes, I can like put on the nearly enlightened podcast and, you know, be like moving through the dishes Cause I have a willingness for it. It's not like I'm in a full fuck. Yes, I am just dying and so turned on to do my dishes, but I'm more like all right, I'm going to get it done, I'm willing to do this. My husband made an incredible meal. I feel like, I feel useful, I have purpose.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's important to to reframe those things and it goes back to like what I was saying about yesterday. It's like I could could have had like a hundred bad things to say about my time on the computer and like framed it very negatively, but instead like reframing it as like creating this space for myself.
Speaker 2:A thousand percent. And so much of what we're doing is we're creating reframes somatically, so that people are coming to those reframes on their own through a felt sensation in their body. You know, if it's oh, I don't have the ability to orgasm, it's like you actually probably do have the ability to orgasm. Let's work with, like, different types of strokes, different types of tools, different types of full body connection, because, especially for a lot of women, like it actually like we have just as much engorgeable tissue as men. Women just don't know this, and it takes 30 to 40 minutes typically for that engorgement to happen, whereas men it happens in like two or less. And so it really is that slowing down and connecting to like oh, what does feel good for me, because I think so many people think that orgasm is like a sneeze of an experience. That is such a good way to put it. Like, yeah, like my mentor said that people at my training said that I love how this like analogy gets thrown around in this world.
Speaker 1:Have you ever read Pussy? A Reclamation by Regina Tamashor.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love that book.
Speaker 1:So she talks about extended massive orgasm and I forget his name, but the doctor and his wife, who, like, kind of, have coined these terms and like do this work. And she talks about how she had a six-hour orgasm and like that is possible for every woman. When I read that book for the first time which now that was going back to like I want to say I read that in like 2017. It literally blew my mind, like if every, every woman should be given this book at puberty and be like here you go.
Speaker 2:I love the like beginning of that book when she's like I couldn't have found God in a church. I found her between my legs, yes, or something like that. I was like literally my entire life anthem and yeah, that's entirely possible. And like what we call that as somatic sex educators and sexological body workers is expanding orgasmicity, so somebody could come on to my table and what they really want to do is they want their orgasm to be beyond a sneeze of a moment and all they need is tools and different ways of working with breath and expanding breath and sound and movement to bring us into that. And so many of those traditions of breath, sound, movement, touch, touch like somatic sex education and sexological body work is definitely doing it on a more western side, but they're like it's all rooted in taoism. It's all rooted in like there's so many like teachings of taoism and tantra like woven into this so for those who might not be familiar, just explain those two things very briefly.
Speaker 2:I would say that they are Eastern spiritual traditions that work with allowing sexual energy to take one to a higher state of consciousness or to reach into divinity through erotic states, states and so somatic sex education and sexological body work. That's not necessarily the goal, but some of the practices that were taught in those traditions are woven in in a way of showing it, through neuroscience and how our bodies are, these incredible experiences and that's like where Kundalini kind of comes from, as well as like these types of traditions. And that's like where Kundalini kind of comes from, as well as like these types of traditions, sort of. But yeah, that's the whole. That would be too long of a podcast. I'm keeping it brief.
Speaker 1:I know you you literally could be studying this for like years and years and years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like I still only know a pinky nail of it and my journey on studying some of that stuff was years ago and I'm like, yeah, I know like a tiny, tiny bit, and that's that's how I feel about yoga too, and especially these ancient sciences.
Speaker 1:It's like they are 1000s of years old. So even if you're studying for 10 years like, you're still a beginner 1000% we're.
Speaker 2:We're all just walking each other along and just like oh, this person knows a little bit more than me. I'm going to spend time with them for a while. Or they know something in a different way than I do, or a different modality, um, or they have a different comprehension of it in a way that can expand my awareness.
Speaker 1:Danica, who has been on the podcast. Um, she was a yoga teacher of mine and then we just became friends, um, but when she led our first um, our first weekend in teacher training, she said I'm not an expert but I'm a pretty good guide and I was like like I need to learn from her, because having that awareness, like if a teacher or guru or practitioner or healer you're working with like claims to know it all, like run in the other fucking direction, like run as fast as you can away, because, like no one has it all figured out, and even, like you said, you get to these places in spirit and you're like, oh, I'm doing so good. And spirit's like hold my beer, like watch this lesson.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and we want teachers that walk with humility and also walk with. I have a mastery of this thing to where I'm at in my life, over my own field, and that's, I think, like the dance of like. I can say that I am a master of my, of embodiment for my own body Right, and it's why I, like, part of my journey with sovereignty is never judging the way other people eat or drink or move, because I don't know how their body processes. Things like mine can be super. Things like mine can be super, and being in a sacred union partnership will totally humble that all the time. Because, like, it's never ceases to amaze me how, like my husband can have a beer and he's the exact same person, whereas like alcohol for me, like is a no-go. Like I don't do it, um, it instantly just takes me out of my alignment and I've been having that experience.
Speaker 1:Uh, so like I haven't been drinking. And then this last Saturday I really like leaned in and let me tell you like if you watch Vanderpump Rules, like Stassi talks about dark passenger taking over that is my experience. Like alcohol goes in, dark passenger takes over, gianna goes somewhere else and like yeah, it's bad yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2:It's one of those things that, like some people, biologically it doesn't happen for, like my husband also has impeccable boundaries with everything all the time. Like it's just who he is he's. I asked him if he was about things and he's like I'm neutral on that. Like it, just like I'm like do you want to do this now? Like, just like, so quickly, to like know who he is and what he wants and where he's going and hold that. And so I feel like for him and it's also, you know, ancestral right.
Speaker 2:Like he has a family who for a very long time, has had a healthy relationship with working with alcohol in a way, whereas my family only worked with it in like mass addiction and disassociation, and his family was like, oh, it's just like a social thing we do sometimes.
Speaker 2:So it's interesting to for like me, as a person who's in a sacred union, to be like all right, he doesn't have an issue with this and I'm just projecting this and instead of being like you know. So anyways, yeah, it's the dance of partnership is its own journey and something that is so powerful and sacred, because what you start to learn when you really and long term committed relationships is how, instead of judging what the partner is doing, like becoming really curious, like I always tell people, like if your partner is into something that you're like not interested in, or it's outside of your, your box, or something like that, like just get really curious about what they're into and see what unfolds for you. Even if you don't do it or like cause I don't believe in compromise, I tell all of my couples like I don't believe in compromise.
Speaker 1:So this is actually one of the questions that came up. So we asked Instagram yesterday if there were any questions and a few people actually had like the same variation of this one question, so I'll get into it. So because it's very aligned with what you're saying now. So it said in the last podcast you said something along the lines of like you don't believe in sacrifice and compromise when it comes in a relationship. So how do you work through conflict in a healthy and a healthy and constructive way If you're not compromising or sacrificing? I thought that was a really good question.
Speaker 2:I love this question. Thank you to the person who asked, because this is one of my absolute favorite things to talk about. I mean, so much of it comes back to curiosity, like I was talking about. But what happens is like okay, so if I really want a pink rug and my husband really wants a blue rug, right, and we're like you can't have that rug, and so we settle and get a green rug that neither of us fucking like neither of us want a green rug. What we're doing is both of us are actually cutting off a part of ourself and then neither person is happy and then it's just creating resentment. And this is what compromise does, right, as it starts to create resentment and it starts to create disconnection and distrust with our own selves. Instead, the like what I say would be fun to do is get really curious about the color blue and he gets really curious about the color pink and see what can happen when you come in Like these are very minor.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about a very minor situation here of a rug, because you know that's definitely not as much of a of a thing, right, and a lot of times, most of the time with something like a rug or where to eat or something like that.
Speaker 2:There's always like a happy middle or a middle or like a place where it's like, oh, actually that's exciting for both of us, like we both have a willingness and an excitement for this. But when we're talking about bigger situations and bigger experiences of compromise, what that's doing is it's actually like cutting a part of ourself off, and that starts to create fragmentation, and then there's resentment because it's like I'm going against the consent of what I want to do or who I am to make this other person happy, and so this happens. A lot with how couples spend their time is. It's like one person you know really likes this. This used to be a thing for my husband and I, so I'll just full on share this exact issue that we had and the way that I would compromise and put myself and my desires aside.
Speaker 1:Which I think is very natural for women, Like we've been conditioned to be this way, one and two, like it's it's kind of in our nature to be this way.
Speaker 2:A thousand percent Like we. We have been told that this is what we're supposed to do. So my husband likes to go on really long walks on Thursday and, like he works Monday through Wednesday night shift so he sleeps throughout that week. Typically we see each other just in passing on those days. So if it was a Thursday, like I unless it's really nice out I don't like to go on a 45 minute walk to the store that he likes to go to every Thursday and then a 45 minute walk back, like during the summer, during the spring, sure, but it would get cold and I would still do this walk because I was like, if I don't, then I'm not showing up for the marriage and I like he doesn't want to spend time with me when really I wanted to go to yoga, like I did not want to go on this walk. And so I started to realize that like I'm not enjoying the walk and we're not actually having any enjoyable time together, not actually having any enjoyable time together, and I'm in a high energy place of excitement and upregulation because I want to spend time with him and I'm doing it in a way that's self-sacrifice. So now I'm annoyed but I'm also like grippy kind of codependent coming to this relationship and he is tired from the week and really just wants a long walk to clear his head. He doesn't want to have deep conversations about our relationship. And so what I started to realize is that, through what what's going on here is, I'm compromising my, what I really want to be doing, and he's compromising his like meditation, walking, meditation space to try and force this thing together. And so instead what we came to is like all right, you do you, I do me. That's like sovereignty. I'm going to go to yoga, you go on a walk, and even though we don't have that two hours together when he gets home, the hour that we do have together, the two hours we have together, is so much more lush because we took the time for ourselves first and we come to it in a whole person space. And so, when it comes to compromising, you know there's a time and a place when we want, like you know, part of getting curious is like I get really curious around, okay, what is my energy actually? And like he's good, it's Thursday, today he will wake up and go for a long walk.
Speaker 2:I actually have a prior commitment to Shabari, but that's besides the point. If I didn't, I would get curious around four or five o'clock when he typically gets up and ask myself, like, oh, what does my body want to do right now? Not, what does Eric want to do? Not, what is Eric doing? Do I want to go on a long walk, regardless of whether he's doing this? Would that feel fun, would that feel playful?
Speaker 2:To walk through the city? It's very alive. I like walks in the city. To like walk through the city, it's very like alive. I like walks in the city. Um, it's one of the things that I enjoy about living in city. Life is just like the excitement in the air. And so I get, I would get curious.
Speaker 2:And if the answer is like a complete fuck, no, then it's like, if I do that, I am violating Once again. That's moving into tolerance, I'm violating the consent of my body, I'm self sacrificing instead of okay, I really want to do this regardless. And the same can be true. You know like sometimes things start off as a no, and especially when we're working in like a long term partnership, it's like okay, my partner is like for me, I'm suddenly interested in Shibari, which is a Japanese BDSM bondage. It's great, it's ropes, and Eric I he's never like organically been interested in that, but I like the art form of it and like I like the way that, like your blood flow shifts and so when you're the person who's being tied, there's an element of surrendering deeper and deeper, which each tie of the ropes and the person that I'm working with is entirely platonic and we're fully clothed in the whole thing. We're just kind of doing it in a class setting, actually so that they can learn the knots and take it to their future partner. I'm really just a backup person because I have good boundaries and consent and I can be like, actually I'm done now.
Speaker 2:But you know, what ended up happening is I, you know, spoke to Eric and I was like I'm really interested in this, like I think it would be something that would be cool for us to explore intimately and maybe even erotically one day. Right now I'm exploring it in a platonic space, but I think it could be cool to bring in. And so he just started to get curious about it and started to ask the person that I Started to hang out with, the person that I'd done it once with platonically. And then he's like all right, well, let's look into a class, let's just take a class on it together, and so that's like you know, becoming interested in and observing what your partner's interested in is really the key of that, because what we end up doing when we're in a situation of conflict is we are so stuck in what our ego wants that we're not even caring about what our partner is interested in, and sometimes there will be a place of void where it's like we're not in residence and we're not in a solution yet, and that is where actually, like, holding the energy and holding the tension is so important.
Speaker 2:It's like he believes this way. I believe this way is so important. It's like he believes this way. I believe this way Can we hold each other's perspective, get curious about what the other one's interested in, without losing my belief and trusting that we don't have to come to an agreement by the time we go to bed tonight, that we can actually lovingly be like all right, we're not in agreement with this, we don't have a solution. Let's continue to love each other and to show up intimately and vulnerably and get curious about what could possibly happen, because nine times out of 10, maybe one person goes to the other side and gets really interested in the other person's thing, or maybe there's a co-creation between the that was the perfect answer it was kind of long, but well, I love the last part that you said.
Speaker 1:It's like you don't have to and this is something that's like coming up for me. It's like I never want to go to bed mad. I want to talk about the thing to death. I want to come up with a solution. I want a solution right now and, um, you, you do kind of like lose sight of, like, oh, but now you're just trying to get your perspective across and you're not even like listening.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I think it's one of the healthiest things in the entire world to go to bed angry.
Speaker 1:I hate the whole my boyfriend's going to be listening to this, like, yeah, fuck you, I told you.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think well the reason. I think that is because what we're actually like our nervous systems, if we're in that like high nervous system place of defense, we're not listening.
Speaker 2:We're not actually coming in from the heart, we're just trying to fix and to put a band-aid on something. And, in the same way that when we walk in the path of the feminine, we step into the mystery and we step into the void and we want, like you know, a true quantum leap, is like I'm going to take all the safety nets out of my life and I'm going to trust that God, goddess, et cetera, will provide for me. I'm going to trust that, like every step that I take in the mystery is going to be there and I don't have to control and I don't have to grip. The same thing is true in partnership. When we're in a place of conflict and we don't have a resolution, we don't have an answer, the best thing we can do is to be like, all right, we're stepping into the void together and like that's always what I remind people of is it's not like when you're in conflict, it's not like me versus you, we are in a place together and then we're stepping into a new level of mystery to get.
Speaker 2:And when we step into that mystery and we get to let go of that ego. I need this answer to be right. I need my partner to agree with me on politics. I need my partner to agree with me on healthcare and vaccines and whatever the thing is for our future non-existent children, instead of getting curious about all right, this is where they believe. This is where I believe. What, if we trust that in this void, deeper clarity will happen and a deeper truth will come in and we can find like a place where we can both be validated and heard and get curious about why is that person into that, why does that person like this or like that? And then we get to be surprised, like we really get to like let our minds be blown.
Speaker 1:And I think that that's where and this is what I say all the time, and sometimes it's easy to say but hard to practice is like those uncomfortable feelings, those uncomfortable conversations, or even letting yourself be uncomfortable in the void of no answer. Yet it's like that's where real growth and progress happens.
Speaker 2:A thousand percent, like so true, and and I, you have to be willing to have uncomfortable conversations and and sit in the uncomfortability and like I struggle with that myself years into this relationship is like I still struggle with being like, oh my God, I have to bring this up and I'm so uncomfortable about it and I don't wanna share it. And I thought we were doing great and perfect. And it's like that's not true, like there has to be times that we bring up the uncomfortable and, of course, we repeat patterns, like we repeat patterns to bring new awareness to that experience. Um, and so it's. It's so incredibly. And then, like allowing your partner to show up differently is so huge. It's like as soon as we hold them to a projection of well, I'm not even going to bring this up to them because they're just going to respond like this, instead of softening, coming to the heart, expressing our feelings and then letting ourselves see how they respond and being open to a different possibility.
Speaker 1:That's good stuff right there. I needed to hear that, probably more than anyone on this podcast.
Speaker 2:I love that. Were there any other questions we didn't get to?
Speaker 1:There is one other question. So a lot of people are curious and I think we did touch upon this in the last episode a little bit, but they a lot of women want to know, like how you schedule, or if you work out and schedule through your cycle.
Speaker 2:Oh, like you mean like like exercise? Yes, yeah, working out through my cycle, yeah, I love this question. For me and my body personally, on day one and sometimes day two, I tend to not work out. I tend to like really go into deep rest, um, and then usually on day two or three, I start to do like more restorative yen types of yoga, occasionally a little bit of flow, and then typically by day three, like my body is ready for like a full yoga flow and movement and that actually kind of tips it into like letting the blood flow more.
Speaker 2:But I, for me, personally, I think that when we're on day one, like the best thing and this isn't true for all bodies, so I would say, like play with it. Like, if you're a woman on this call listening on this podcast and you're listening to this, like play around with what feels good in the moment and also what feels good outside of the moment I typically clear my calendar on day one of my bleed, if I can and do as little as possible to really allow myself intentional rest.
Speaker 2:And when I say intentional rest I'm saying, like you know, put on meditation music, don't drink caffeine. Like drink hot water and like nourishing teas and keep the lights down low. Like imagine that you are actually in a womb cave, going into the cosmos. Spend as much time in like really slow spaces. Like let yourself rest in bed, take a nap, take a hot bath, take three hot baths if you want. Like do as many like luscious self-care things. It's a great time for breast massage. It's a great time to sing songs. It's a great time to breast massage. It's a great time to sing songs. It's a great time to like do really yummy stuff like that, like face masks and all the things, and intentionally rest.
Speaker 2:And like a little bit of Netflix, sure, but if we're just like bleeding, putting a heating pad on and like disassociating through Netflix all day, that's not true intentional rest.
Speaker 2:We want to be at least doing some things that are restoratively resting the mind-body connection. And for me personally, if I have a really solid day one or a handful of hours even on day one where I get that like luscious rest. I'm typically so much more motivated for my entire rest of my cycle, like that one extra day of really resting the body. My workout on day three, day four, is going to go so much harder and I definitely think like pumping up, like ovulation time is a great way to do like a lot of intense strength training. You know luteal cycle leading up to the period another great time to really like hit that. Those like harder workouts, um, because you have that energy. Anything that's like lots of like backbends and opening is like not good for on your period, but when you're off of your period or leading up to the period, it's like open it up all the way, get as much space in that back and pelvic floor as you can, without going too far, of course, like don't injure yourself, please, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I love that Cause I I'm somebody who, like I hate a routine because I'm a Gemini, but like love a routine and need a routine. Um, but I, coming back to teaching yoga and teaching like lots of yoga. Now I'm teaching about 10 classes a week. It's really hard for me to kind of like balance that energy because my, my job is so physical and I keep saying to my best friend Nikki, like I wish that I could just take my whole period week off, like from teaching classes, like that would be my ideal world.
Speaker 2:If you ever get the ability to do it like I would say, do it, because when I first started with conscious menstruation, I would not do anything, any type of movement, for like three, four days, and that was the level of rest that I needed for, honestly, like four years Like I did nothing, for like a hand. I was like day four or five I finally wanted to move again.
Speaker 1:And I think that's important to remember too. It's like your cycle changes and what you need during your cycle changes and be willing to, like you said, play and to figure it out. And right now, like I, my energy is definitely shifting. Like I don't know if I'm going into more of like a winter phase or if this is just like nurturing time for me, but like as soon as my loony, like as soon as I'm coming down off ovulation and going into luteal phase, my energy is like tanking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I completely feel that that is my like. When your energy starts to tank, it's so. It's so important to like really honor that and honor where your body's at, because when we start to like force ourselves to try and do the thing, just to do the thing, we're not, we're back in that space of tolerance really, yeah, putting my body through this and like we go through seasons and cycles and changes and for me, like the more that I've worked with conscious menstruation and cyclical alchemy, which was my very first red tent, and I have that available as a recording Soon my website will be changed and things will be much more streamlined and easy to access. Easy to access but, um, that like that foundational knowledge and learning how to like live my life around it. It's like the more that I do that, the more easy it is for me to sink into being able to get more done, because I'm I listened to my body first and I really follow, like the body leads, the mind follows, and giving myself that rest like the number of times that I will cancel plans just because I'm like like even a few months ago, like I booked a workshop, my period came a day or two days earlier than I thought it would. It was a rage workshop which I thought would be great for luteal somatic rage release workshop. And it ended up coming that day and I was like I don't feel rageful, like I don't want to go, like scream and hit things, like I want to lay on my couch, and so I just didn't go.
Speaker 2:I like gave my ticket away to someone. Like here's a $60 ticket to an event, go have fun. And it's like two years ago, maybe three years ago, probably three or four years ago, I probably would have been like oh well, I spent money on it, I should just go. It's a spiritual event.
Speaker 2:I'm probably meant to just lean into the edge and find out, and there's a time when we are meant to lean into the edge, but there's also plenty of times when we are forcing our body into doing something we don't want to do, and so that's when we start to question is this willingness or am I tolerating it? And that's a really powerful way to start asking the body. And, yeah, letting yourself like, let people down, because ultimately, like, triggers are the medicine and we are meant to let ourselves be triggered and we're meant to trigger others, like people automatically get triggered, especially if they live in a program where prioritizing their embodiment doesn't matter. And you do that and they will get triggered and try and ask you to bend and to shift and to compromise in order to make themselves feel better about the way that they live in tolerance. But really what you're doing is like you're waking them up to what is possible.
Speaker 1:I think that is the perfect place to leave it. You have left me with a lot to think about. There are like thinking about a few specific things and I'm like, oh wow, I'm like tolerating that and it's why it's becoming like so exhausting, so like cumbersome to deal with.
Speaker 2:It's like because my body doesn't want to well, I'm here to tell you like, fuck that shit, let it go yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's just what I needed to hear. This episode has been medicine for me. Thank you so much for being here again. I love everything you're doing. I'm so interested, I think it's so amazing and I just want to celebrate you. So thank you for being here again.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you for having me. I love this podcast so much and I love spending time with you and hanging out with you. And I feel like every time we talk, whether it's on or off the podcast, it's just the absolute best.
Speaker 1:So I love you so much. Love you so much. If someone is interested in working with you, where can they find you?
Speaker 2:They can find me on the show notes too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they can find me on my Instagram at Marissa Lynn healing, or on my website, and I am currently going under a big rebrand, so stay tuned for some extra yummy, easy access places. I do offer my women's Facebook group with the monthly red tent and, beginning in December 1st, we're doing a free daily womb meditation, so I invite you to hop on every morning the whole month. We're going to be starting on the new moon in December and going until the end of the year with a daily womb meditation to really start opening up this type of embodiment for people.
Speaker 1:So I'm very excited about that because I am in the red tent, so I'm very excited. Thank you so much for being here again. I hope to talk to you very soon for everyone listening. Thank you so much for listening, for supporting this podcast. If you haven't yet, please review, like, subscribe, share. It makes a huge difference. If you know somebody who could benefit from this podcast, please share with them. Thank you so much and we'll talk to you next time.