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Nearly Enlightened
Join Nearly Enlightened's host Giana Giarrusso and discover the body, mind and spirit connection! The Nearly Enlightened Podcast is for the soul-centered seeker who is on the path of personal growth and spiritual development. This podcast takes a light-hearted approach exploring topics rooted in themes of mental, physical and spiritual wellbeing.
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Barefaced & Bold: A Soul Chat with Kat Parks
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Embracing YOUR Face: Kat Parks joins us to chat about expression, aging, and the freedom to be seen
What if the lines on your face aren’t flaws to fix, but stories to honor?
Kat Parks is back on the Nearly Enlightened Podcast, and this time we’re diving deep into Face Freedom—her revolutionary approach that moves way beyond traditional face yoga. This isn’t about chasing youth or smoothing out every wrinkle. It’s about reconnecting with your natural expression, releasing long-held tension, and rewriting the narrative around beauty and aging.
Most of us are walking around totally disconnected from our faces—holding tension in our jaws, clenching around our eyes, barely breathing—and we don’t even realize it. Kat helps us tune back in as she explains how these unconscious patterns not only shape how we look, but also how we feel and how we show up in the world.
This episode is a powerful invitation to reclaim your face—not the one you had ten years ago, and not the one a filter says you should have—but the one that’s here now. The one that reflects your truth, your joy, your vitality.
We talk about:
- Why face yoga is about so much more than appearance—it supports lymphatic flow, emotional regulation, and nervous system health
- How cultural messaging and the beauty industry condition us to fear aging and distrust our natural looks
- Why vitality and joy are more magnetic than perfection
- The rise of injectables and filters—and how they subtly disconnect us from our bodies and emotions
- How to gently begin a face awareness practice, without pressure or shame
- What it means to be truly expressive, embodied, and free
This conversation is part truth-telling, part soul medicine, and part loving wake-up call to not just accept yourself, but to LOVE yourself. Whether you're face yoga curious or just ready to stop fighting your reflection, this one’s for you.
✨ Ready to begin your Face Freedom journey?
Kat’s 12-week program starts May 9th—head to findyourfacefreedom.com or find her on Instagram @beeasyfaceyoga to learn more and grab her free tension release guide.
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Welcome to the Nearly Enlightened Podcast, a high vibe toolbox designed to help you connect to your body, mind and spirit. I'm your host, gianna Girusso, and I'm here to share tools, conversations and insights to help you on your journey of self-discovery. This podcast is all about exploring what it means to live a conscious, connected and nearly enlightened life, because the truth is, the answers aren't outside of ourselves, they're already within. Let's dive in. Today I'm so excited to welcome back a truly magical human and one of my best friends.
Speaker 2:Kat Parks Welcome, kat, hello. Oh my gosh, I love that intro to the pod is so dope. Because here's the thing y'all we're never fully enlightened. We're humans, we're. We're nearly there, we're working. Yeah, we're humans, we're nearly there, we're working on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like I've said a million times on this podcast, you're like, if you've worked with me, if you're in my classes, we're never going to be fully enlightened on this plane. It's like our soul school, our place to learn the lessons so that our entire soul can evolve.
Speaker 2:Yes, it goes right hand in hand with my favorite quote that I always say, which is practice makes practicing easier.
Speaker 1:I have adopted that from you.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love that. I think that was actually the name of the last podcast episode that I was on.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, that's so funny. It's so funny Like I put out so many now, like we're almost at 50 episodes. It's like oh my gosh. I know it's crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:Thank you, gosh. I know it's crazy. It's congrats. Thank you. It's one of my favorite podcasts to listen to and to be on.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, that's such an honor. You're one of my favorite guests to have on, because I just love chatting with you. It's funny. You said something in a text message like just a few minutes ago to me, before we were hopping on um. You said we're the best projector friends. And that is so true. Like it's funny because, like three of my very best friends you and two of my other best friends, we're all projectors and it's like I don't know how that came to be, because we're such a small part of the population and one of the newer archetypes in human design. So it's like how I found you all. It's just like so perfect.
Speaker 2:I love it. I think that we just have like a little radar and we just find each other, because my two childhood best friends are also projectors. But we were both this morning. We had our meeting was about to start 15 minutes ago and we were both like oh sorry I'm late. I got one more thing to do. Wait, hold on.
Speaker 1:And then, at the very last minute, I was like you know what, if I don't sit down and pee, it's going to be a hard hour.
Speaker 2:I love that. That's always important.
Speaker 1:It's like right before a yoga class oh my gosh. Yeah, because like there's nothing worse than being in Shavasana and being like fuck, I should have peed before class, oh gosh. Or like in goddess pose or any kind of hip opener. Actually, this is really funny and I feel like you're the perfect person to talk about this with, but there was this one time we're gonna get down and dirty right now. I love it. So there was this one time when I first started practicing yoga, I got really obsessed with yin and I started going to this yin class like once a week, and one time she had us in these deep hip openers and I swear to God, I was having like an orgasmic experience, but I couldn't decide if I was going to have an orgasm or if I had to pee.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry for any family members that are listening. Oh my God, that's amazing. Our podcast should probably be explicit.
Speaker 1:I feel like it should be so diving deeper into this topic. So then I started to learn about it and there are parts of the clitoris that like get released when you get into deep hip work, and that's like what we were doing. So I was like like yeah, you can have an orgasm in yoga.
Speaker 2:That's amazing and I mean well, I'm not going to dive into it but the clitoris man, magical, gigantic, gigantic organ beyond it's, way beyond anything, way beyond way beyond.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this is actually funny. So my two other projector friends, michaela, who has been on this podcast, and Nikki, who I've talked about on this podcast endlessly she's like my person, um but we went to this women's retreat. This is like going back like many years ago now, um, but we went to this women's retreat. This is like going back like many years ago now, but we went to the like a female anatomy class and it was like basically the anatomy of the clitoris and she had this giant gold, sparkly clitoris. That was like anatomically correct and it was so interesting to see that there are like two what look like balls like, yeah, inside that like we don't see, see, but it can be stimulated.
Speaker 2:So it's very interesting, I mean it pretty much looks like a penis and balls. There was this um well sculpture at burning man a couple years ago. That was like 30 feet tall, gigantic clitoris, and then it had little facts all around it of like how many nerves are in it compared to a penis, you know all of way more.
Speaker 1:I feel like I need to Google it right now so we can have actual numbers. I love it. I love that this is where you're supposed to talk about face yoga, but we're talking about the clitoris you gotta start from the bottom right.
Speaker 2:Like you, we gotta. We gotta get that base, that root, start the start, the pyramid down at the bottom and then make our way up okay, let's say, according to a recent study, the average number of nerve fibers and the human clitoris is approximately 10 280 wow um, let's see about a penis.
Speaker 1:It was something 4 000, so more than double the clitoris has more than double the nerve endings.
Speaker 2:That that's amazing. And like just at the little bud part, oh wow, I didn't realize that that's incredible.
Speaker 1:Well, women are incredible women are incredible, I love that well, great way to start this pod yeah, we'll just table that for now and I love it it's so me.
Speaker 2:Me and my husband have a podcast as well, and we just recorded our first episode in like a year and a half, just this week.
Speaker 1:I saw.
Speaker 2:I didn't listen to the episode yet, but I saw it's so good, I'm so obsessed, so happy to be back on it. But we made jokes the other day that we're gonna have to have like a separate podcast that we talk about sexy stuff, so maybe we'll just have to have you on and that'll be. The first episode will be clits, I don't know, throwing it out there, what do you?
Speaker 1:guys think I mean female anatomy. It's like so many people like don't know. I mean even women, like I know so many women who have recently given birth or yeah, or are pregnant, and like they given birth or are pregnant, and the amount of things that we don't know. It's just like it's crazy. We're just little miracles, I know, and we're the portal between life and death.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love that. Well, let's dig in, shall we Sure?
Speaker 1:Let's go ahead and start. So every episode that you're on it brings so much fire and depth and we talk from such a deep place, from the soul, with everything that we talk about on the podcast and off the podcast, and I think that's why we became such fast friends. And today we're going to dive into your latest creation Find your Face, freedom a powerful journey that helps people reconnect with their expression, their embodiment and their authentic oh my God, I can't talk. Authentic truth Sounds about right. Cat has a unique gift for guiding others into deeper alignment with who they really are, beyond the mask, the roles, the noise, and into a place of self-love and liberation. So, whether you're an artist, a leader, a seeker or just someone craving a bit more honest connection with yourself, this conversation is definitely going to land. I can feel it already. So okay, kat, like before, I guess we've already like, really dove into, like the deepest of depths. But what's going?
Speaker 2:on in your world. Catch me up, oh man Beyond. Find your face. Freedom, or just along the same lines. What are we going for? Life stuff?
Speaker 1:whatever you want to share.
Speaker 2:All right, all right. Well, I'm going to start with a shout out, even though he's absolutely not listening to this podcast. It's my brother's 40th birthday and that's a big deal, so I'm just going to shout him out. He's, like I said, not going to listen to this, but you know it's, it's the energy of it. I am on vacay right now, visit some family and my projector, best friend of 30 years, which will be so fun in a couple days and beyond that. Man, I have just been going hard. I know program. It has been almost all consuming. I don't think I've ever been more dialed in to a thing in my life, definitely not a work thing.
Speaker 1:It has been so like, it's so clear, like just watching your social media and the way that you share about it, it's just like so inspiring.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. I have legitimately cried multiple times just talking about it, having experiences like after we have these little one on one sessions. I call it my jam sesh. There have been many a jam sesh that I close my laptop and just sob about how powerful this work is and how much this is changing people's faces, people's lives. I really feel like I've found my passion and my purpose here on the world and you know it's.
Speaker 2:It is so much further beyond just what we look like, and I think that that's the part that I really want to drive home to not just people who are maybe face yoga curious or face freedom curious, but all people, because we know that it's important to move our bodies, to get blood flow, but we completely ignore the very top bit, from our neck up. We're not thinking about the muscles, the movement, the blood, the lymph, any of these things, or we get stuck in this thought, thinking that our face is only what we look like, but we hear this quote our eyes are the windows to the soul. Then what is your face? The sighting right, it's your house, and what does that look like? Do you look tense and stressed and angry, or can you be calm and peaceful and joyful.
Speaker 1:I love that. It's about regulating emotions so much more Like when you talk about a lot of the face yoga stuff. It's about bringing awareness to a lot of our habits and what we're doing already. And are we scrunching our eyebrows, are we tensing our jaw, like these are things that I didn't really think about before you embarked on your face yoga journey and, kind of like, brought me along with you for the ride.
Speaker 2:Yes, and that's the thing. Most of us don't realize that, and I'll I'll take this moment listener, if you've got your headphones in, or whatever. I'll maybe say don't do this if you're driving or just be very mindful, but just take a moment to notice. Are your eyebrows raised or squeezing together, Even if it's energetic? Are you tensing your eyes like you need to wear glasses? Are you scrunching your nose, clenching your jaw, pressing your lips together, shifting your head forward? Are you scrunching your nose, clenching your jaw, pressing your lips together, shifting your head forward? Are you breathing shallow? All of these are things that we can just pay attention to throughout the day, which is going to make a huge difference in, again, not just what we look like, but what we feel like I know, and we've talked about this a lot too with where we are in modern society.
Speaker 1:So many of us have fallen victim to the thought process of like, oh well, if you don't like it, fix it with injectables, with plastic surgery, with like these invasive practices. That just the underlying message there is, like you're not enough the way you are, exactly, and that is so heartbreaking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's the thing that I really want to get into with all of my clients and whoever joins me in this journey is that there's. We're not here to fix you. And I had a. I had a friend one time very, very devil's advocate friend was like, well, what if this is just what I'm supposed to look like? And I was like, well, sure, I'm not going to change your genetics, we're not going to change the color of your eyes and update, we're not going to change your skin color, we're not going to do any of these things, but I can make you look less stressed. You're not supposed to look like you're in pain. You're not supposed to look like you're in pain. You're not supposed to look like life is so hard.
Speaker 2:And I think that that excuse of oh, I'm just supposed to look this way is a cop-out, because you could say that about your body also. Oh well, I'm just supposed to look this way, I'm just supposed to be whatever you know, you can say I'm not, I'm not gonna say it. Maybe this is just my body type and maybe it is. But have you tried working out? Have you tried walking? Have you tried eating better? And these aren't things just to again look better. I don't eat a salad just so that I can look hot. We need to eat salad so that our bodies can function better. And the same thing with our face, and I think that it's just become this thing that has turned into only aesthetics, and of course, aesthetics matter especially to I would say, especially to ladies, but I think that aesthetics matter to men too. I'm secretly working on a face yoga for dudes. Oh, I love that thought. Yeah, I'm really working on a face yoga for dudes oh.
Speaker 2:I love that thought, yeah, I'm really excited for it.
Speaker 1:So planting seeds. Yeah, oh, my gosh, that's so perfect, and I think just creating these spaces for men to make it more approachable and comfortable like that's so great. I mean a majority. I teach 10 plus yoga classes a week and I would say that more than 90% of participants are women. I would love to see more guys in the space. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's. I feel like it's important for us to make it accessible and not scary, and that's the thing. I have a few private yoga clients that are men and they are nervous to go to a yoga studio because it's scary and it's weird and everyone's staring at you and with our face. Yoga, yeah, we're making funny faces and it's weird, but you probably care about what you look like, even just a little bit. And, as I like to say to any men who come into my classes, dudes have faces too and it's just as important that we work them out.
Speaker 2:And in this very first round of Find your Face Freedom, we actually did have one dude. It was my very own husband. I even made him go through a discovery call and signed him up and sent him all the emails and stuff, but he went through most of the flow with us and had these amazing experiences of recognizing how many times he would put himself down for what he looked like or what he was doing or not doing. And this is just a way for us to also create some self-compassion. Because here's the thing you probably aren't going to work out or work out your face for an hour every single day. You probably are going to miss a salad one day. You're probably going to miss a walk one day, and let that be okay. Not let that be the thing that makes you fall off the wagon yeah.
Speaker 2:Exactly, the wagon doesn't even exist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what? I notice it so much in my own practices Like I'll be really consistent for a while and then I'll like let it trickle off and then I'll completely fall off for a little while and then it's like somewhere down the line I come back to it and it's like why did I stop doing?
Speaker 2:this, yes, and it's usually just like one day that was weird, and then we let that one day control us. And you know I'm not immune to this either. I don't practice face yoga every day and I will be the first one to tell you that and all your listeners that, and all my students that, because that was one of the themes that kept coming up in this first round of my program was my clients were saying, oh my God, I didn't do enough today. Or oh, I don't think I'm doing enough. I didn't do X, y, z. It's fine Even if you don't practice face yoga, but you can just practice being more aware of your face.
Speaker 2:Your face will change and I can promise you that, because my face has changed just with awareness. Seven years ago I had proper lines on my forehead, and now I don't, because I've been more aware of what I'm doing with my face. And, yeah, I had proper lines on my forehead and now I don't, because I've been more aware of what I'm doing with my face. And, yeah, I practice face yoga here and there, but it's been so much more of the practices that come from the outside of that as well.
Speaker 1:Well, I think too, like when we say it's like, when we talk about yoga, it's like, oh, I didn't practice yoga today. It's like, no, I didn't practice the physical practice of yoga today, but there's so much more that I was actually doing that doesn't look like sitting on the mat.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's that concept of asana versus everything else and we conflate yoga with asana. And I want to separate face freedom, which is my creation, from just face yoga, because face freedom is about so much more. We're tuning into our habits, our awarenesses, we're creating routines, we're developing little rituals for ourselves, we're creating self compassion. All of these things are just as important as the movements, as the practices, as the exercises. And I'll shout out one of my Face Freedom founders from this first round, ingrid.
Speaker 2:She was so excited about the exercises. All she wanted to do was exercises, learn new stuff, exercise, exercise, exercise. And then, when she started to get into the slower stuff, the tension release, the massaging, the squeezing, the awareness she realized that that was the game changer. It was being more gentle with herself. That was making the difference, not constantly exercising. And it's again the same thing with our bodies. If you were working out lifting weights seven days week and you literally never stretched, you wouldn't feel very good. But if you threw in some stretching, and maybe an equal amount of stretching for how much working out you're doing, you will feel different.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, my God, I love that you just brought that up because it's like so synchronistic. But yesterday I have a new TA like teacher's assistant in one of my classes and she has been with me for about a month now. So she takes class with me every Monday night and my Monday night is like a very therapeutic class. It like the hardest thing we do is tabletop like it. We, you would love it. Actually, we spend a majority of the time laying down either on our back or on our bellies. It's a lot of mobility work sprinkled in with some yin, some restorative and lots of breath work and meditation and pausing. And she was a, she is a, she is a self-proclaimed gym rat. So she would tell me like she was and she's in college. So there's no reason you should be tight, tense, tense and like not have flexibility when you're 19 years old yeah um.
Speaker 1:So she said yesterday, in just these like four short weeks, that her body has changed incredibly. Like she, her hips feel different. She was like I feel like I walk different. She like I feel like I'm walking with more awareness and more presence and just allowing myself to really, um, like let go of that tension from weightlifting. And she said the doing both has not only improved her, like what she's doing in the gym, but like just her every day. She just like feels better, moves better. And I was like, wow, that's pretty fucking awesome.
Speaker 2:That's amazing Cause, yeah, when you have more mobility, it is easier for you to work out. You can lift up heavier weights when you are more mobile and more flexible. And that's the thing is that we can utilize these different classes, these different tools, these different resources to teach us how to live differently, how to move differently.
Speaker 2:It's even like massage therapy. You can not ever get a massage and feel all tight and tense forever. Same thing with. You can get not a great massage and just feel okay, maybe sometimes even more tense, and then you can have a massage therapist like Gianna who is dialing you in and telling you about you know different muscles and how to relax and all of this stuff. You can take your body to another level when you're working with someone who has these tools and resources to help take you there.
Speaker 1:Yes, and circling back to what we said before, is it is really intimidating and like scary to be a beginner at anything at anything. And you know, I see it in my yoga classes all the time, like the people who come in for the first time, they're so timid and they're like not sure and they're like, oh my God, should I even be here, do I belong here? And you know, I've been a beginner at things. I've been a beginner at yoga once upon a time and I definitely had those, those feelings as well. But like if I could just say something to the listeners or you know, whoever. It's like allow yourself that uncomfortability to be the beginner, because there's such beauty that comes from that. And I've talked about this on the podcast, actually fairly recently.
Speaker 1:But when I first started teaching yoga, I was teaching like a beginner one-on-one class and it was really hard for me to relate to like how I should be teaching, how I should be showing up, how much was too much? Was I pushing people too hard? Was my classes too challenging, too easy, like all of this stuff. And my cousin brought me rock climbing and I went rock climbing for the first time and I got to like see through the eyes of a beginner and that really changed the way that I showed up as a teacher. I felt like that little reminder just helped me relate to what it's like to show up to be a beginner and not know what to do at all and just like need the guidance. So I think it's always important to have those, those little reminders, and I always go back to that experience from time to time, because now I don't teach one-on-one classes, I teach more like all levels classes and I want everyone to have a good, successful class. But it just makes me relate to the beginners a little bit differently.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, and being a beginner, it's so beautiful and I feel very compassionate and compelled to teach beginners. I love teaching beginning yoga. I mean, the main thing that I've been doing for the last two years has been teaching at a resort. So no one's there to like do hard yoga and teaching bachelorette parties. So sometimes they're hungover and they're also not there to do hard yoga. So my usual flow like I've got a, I've got a pretty like dialed in, it's fun, it's groovy. We stand up a couple of times. Then that's the hardest thing that we do, and people are like oh my God, that feels amazing. My body feels so good. I've never done anything like this. And if you, if I, was trying to teach something harder, more pumped up, just to like show them and go hard, they wouldn't have that experience. Right, you wouldn't be able to get stretchy and lean into. What does my body feel like if we're doing chaturangas and like camel in the middle of a class? It's not appropriate for beginners.
Speaker 1:It's not. And you know, honestly, chaturanga is such a bullshit thing and I've been talking about it in my classes a lot lately because what we know here in the West as chaturanga high plank to low plank it doesn't even exist in traditional yoga.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:So there's like this, really awesome. I don't even know what it's called, but it's like this orange book and it's like one of the traditional yogic texts. You cannot find a high to low plank in that fucking book, because in traditional yoga way back 5,000 years ago they were not doing a tricep pushup, no, they were fucking not.
Speaker 2:Tricep push-up no, they were fucking not. It's crazy. I I don't think I've properly taught a chaturanga in years and I like literally years. I've been teaching yoga for 12 years. I stopped teaching chaturanga probably about three years ago and I'll maybe only do it if I've got a class of gals who are like really pumped up, they do yoga, they, they want to go hardcore and then I let them do it, give them the option to go on their knees.
Speaker 2:But I took a class the other day I just want to throw this in there with a teacher who's been teaching for a long time. It was supposed to be a beginning or all levels class. We literally did a camel in the middle of it, which I could scream about because that's not appropriate, but we were doing chaturangas and we'd pigeon, we did all kinds of crazy stuff that I'm like my, my yoga teacher soul is just screaming Because you know we can take these things to this high level. But that's not always the place where we need to start, and that's what I do with Find your Face.
Speaker 2:Freedom is that we are actually starting at the beginning, like you don't know what face yoga is. You've never heard of it before, you don't know anything about your face and we go through this 12 week journey where we're learning not only what is actually on our face and why it is there, but then what we can do about it, from the most basic things to the most wild things, and even that most wild thing. You know, it took us a long while to get there. I was not about to teach that hardest pose to my students earlier than week 10. And that's when we did it.
Speaker 1:Well, that makes it a lot more digestible and just like comfortable being a beginner, and I think that you know it should be the goal of all teachers, not just yoga teachers, to make it that palatable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you don't send your six year old to 12th grade. You know you put them in kindergarten you know, you put them in kindergarten. Side note. I remember the very first day of kindergarten realizing, oh my God, I've got 13 years left of this, and that was like a really depressing moment for a six year old or five year old. I was like, well, this is like a really high thought.
Speaker 1:I fucking hated school and I think it was the worst. My mom sent me to this preschool and kindergarten. That was kind of like alternative learning, like now. It would be probably like a crunchy mom's school where, like, crunchy moms send their children.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:But we were outside for like 90% of the day. There was like a heavy emphasis on nature. We did like nature walks. There was like a pond on site, a heavy emphasis on nature, we did like nature walks, there was like a pond on site. So when I went from that to actual school, I had a very similar experience and so I went from that to a Catholic first grade, a Catholic private school for first grade, and my teacher was such a fucking wench Like I think about her all the time and actually it's funny I think I've talked about her on the podcast, like in very recent episodes like four years ago um, because, like what she did, like literally ingrained in my brain like she was a person who, if she didn't like what you were, how you were behaving or whatever, like you basically got shamed in front of the entire class.
Speaker 1:Oh, and like if I ever run into her in this healed version of me, like I would let her know exactly what she did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, and this is the thing it's. I think it's funny that we both are like, oh, school sucks, but then we're both teachers.
Speaker 1:Yes, and love learning and, like, haven't stopped being a student in different spheres.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I think that that's really a magical thing and it's funny. I told you that I'm about to see my best friend of 30 years in a few days. She and I used to play teacher when we were six and seven. We actually went to like the teacher supply store and would buy grade books and write our own curriculums and make quizzes and quiz each other and grade each other, and it was just this whole teacher play moment. And now I'm like, oh, I'm actually doing that. I actually built a curriculum and have made homework and worksheets and I'm connecting with my students and guiding them on a journey. I'm like, oh my God, I'm doing the thing that was so challenging for me to receive and I think that this is a thing that happens to a lot of people is that we maybe experience something in a challenging way and then that ends up being our purpose is to help other people move through it in a less challenging way.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's so funny. My friend, jamie always says your mess is your message and Jamie always says your mess is your message. Ooh, I like that, yeah, yeah, and I found it to be true in my own life, like same, like I hated. It's funny. I hated school, but my cousin, andrea and I, when we were little, like that's what we would play, like all we would do was play school. So, like, I've always put myself in the uncomfortable situation, even though, like, I didn't necessarily like, love it. But I have found a way to learn to love it, like when I went to massage school. That really changed the game for me with the way that we were learning, and I just feel like it's finding what works for you and for a lot of people. Like sitting in a classroom stuck at a desk, it ain't it?
Speaker 2:Yes, well, for a lot of people, like sitting in a classroom stuck at a desk, it ain't it? Yes, well, for a lot of people, it's permission and that was something that came up a fair bit in this first round of Find your Face Freedom of people saying like, oh my God, I'm behind on the homework. I'm like, girl, there is no homework, you do whatever you want to do. And I think that that gives people permission to really sink into what's exciting to me. Because, yeah, every week you're going to get, you know, say, 10 different things that you could do, and they could be this journal prompt or that journal prompt or this little exercise, that little exercise, and you should do the things that light you up, because if not, then you're just slogging through, you're not excited about it, then you're just slogging through, you're not excited about it and you're not going to get the good results.
Speaker 2:And that's the same with, say, our face yoga practice. If you're going into it thinking, oh my God, I have to do this, it's got to be an hour, I've got to sit in front of the mirror, it's so boring, I hate this exercise. You're actually going to be making a bad face during that. You're not going to be experiencing good results, whereas if you can go into your practice, saying, all right, let me pop on this playlist that I made makes me feel so excited and jazzed and I'm going to do these exercises that make me feel good and I'm going to pick out my favorite ones and the ones that are lighting me up, you're going to be excited, you're going to want to do it more, you're going to want to do it more, you're going to do it for longer and you're going to have way better results. So I think that if we can approach all of life with a more positive attitude, a more excited, joyful attitude, then we'll want to do those things Right, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's the same thing with, like all of those mundane things that you have to do. But, like you know, I always go back to this with like cleaning and doing dishes, Like I fucking hate it, but honestly, like once it's done, that feeling of it being done and in a clean, tidy space, like that's the good feeling. So like holding onto that while I'm doing it, versus like oh, I fucking hate this. It's like oh, but the process gets me to the end result that I. That makes me feel so damn good.
Speaker 2:Yes. And how can you make the process more fun? Can you have a doing dishes playlist that you can like, dance and groove to? Could you stand in tree pose while you're doing these plates? Can you make it a game of how many dishes you can wash without rinsing them? Yet you know we can have all of these ways that we can make life more fun, and that would be the same with going to yoga. Can you wear your favorite outfit? That can be the same with going to the gym. Can you put on some groovy tunes? Can you get excited about what it is that you're doing?
Speaker 1:Get excited for life.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I feel like this energy has been coming back to me, like I it's funny, like today is overcast and kind of gross, but we've had a couple of really nice days and I've got to sit in the sun and it was like warm and like we made it through winter here in new England and there's nothing better than that feeling of like making it to the other side and I totally forgot where we were going with this, but it, oh I know. So I really got to like dive into like oh well, the winter's over, the winter blues are subsiding, and a little bit of sunshine, a little bit of nature really does just like invigorate you.
Speaker 2:Yes, and tuning into what invigorates you listener, because maybe it's nature, maybe it's sunshine, maybe it's rain, maybe it's music, maybe it's colors, maybe it's jewelry, maybe it's painting your nails. There's all of these different ways that we can move through life and express ourselves that really makes a difference in how you show up in the world.
Speaker 1:Yes, I love that, I love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it can feel silly. I'm on a podcast with you right now. We're not even on video. I'm wearing my very favorite snake necklace because it makes me feel really happy, and it doesn't matter. I'm sitting in my aunt's house, I'm like wearing earrings and stuff. I literally got dressed today for this because it makes me feel better.
Speaker 2:And I think that we've all had that experience. You know where, say, maybe we've had one experience where you go to the grocery store in sweats, right, you're sick, your hair's a mess, you're like please let me not run into anyone. And then inevitably you do, you feel like garbage, whatever. But then we've also had the flip side, where maybe we go out dancing and you've picked out your favorite outfit and your jewels up and maybe makeup on hair done, and you're feeling like a badass and you move through life differently. So I think that this whole idea and what I've created is to help us move through life differently. So I think that this whole idea and what I've created is to help us move through life differently, because I think that too many of us get stuck in this place of feeling like life is hard, everything's hard and I'm just stuck like this, or you know, oh, I'm stuck in this stress and I can't do anything about it. There are so many things that you can do about it.
Speaker 1:So, with that being said, for anyone listening who might be feeling a little stuck and how they show up or maybe even a little bit afraid to be fully seen because I know a lot of us in the teaching space like we've worked through that of like being afraid to be fully seen and then working through that and then showing up more fully so like what is one small step that somebody feeling those things could take to reclaiming their voice or expression?
Speaker 2:Honestly, I feel like just looking at yourself in the mirror and I know that that sounds cheesy, right, that's like eye gazing, you know. Look, look into your own eyes and tell yourself that you love yourself. That might be really hard, and I want to acknowledge that that might be really hard, because a lot of us might look in the mirror and the first thing that you want to do is say like, oh that line, oh this face, oh these lips, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah our whole laundry list of all the things that we hate about ourselves. But what if you could look into your own eyes as if you were another person? Or maybe not even just another person like a stranger, but another person like your best friend? How would you look into your best friend's eyes, or your partner's eyes or your child's eyes? How can we do this and love ourselves in that kind of way? I think that that would be the first step to really reclaiming who you are, what you look like, who this person is that you're showing up as honestly.
Speaker 1:I always try to remind myself. So I call creator energy God and, like everyone, do with that what you will, but I am going to speak to it from that lens. It's like God is perfect, god's creation is perfect and he created you so like you are perfect, yeah.
Speaker 2:You're perfect just the way that you are. And if you want to make a couple updates, if you want to feel a little bit better, that's okay too. Yeah, and you know all all of the other things we kind of like very briefly touched on. You know, injections or surgery, whatever like those things are are there and you can do them if you want. But I think that the most important thing when it comes to those things is being aware of the risks, actually having informed consent, which is not just signing a paper.
Speaker 1:It's FDA approved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not just signing a paper that they shove at you and not reading it, like we all don't read our Apple terms and conditions, but this is actually sitting in the room with the doctor and saying, okay, how does this injection work? What are the things that could possibly go wrong? Why is this for me? Why could it not be for me? What might happen if something does go wrong? And I think that it's important that we know those things, because otherwise then we just go into it blind, thinking that this is a save all.
Speaker 1:Yes, and also that, oh, this injection is going to make me feel better. And it might on the surface, but it it's only a bandaid on the problem. It's not really going to heal the root issue.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's absolutely a bandaid because, as we all know, it goes away. It goes away within three to four months. But the thing is, you know, I have had a client tell me, oh, but I just like the way that I look with Botox better. And I'm like, well duh, wouldn't we all, wouldn't we all, like to be smooth and totally unmoving? Sure, I like the way I look with makeup better. I like the way I look with a filter better. Those aren't real. That's not you.
Speaker 2:So can we again address the root of the problem? Because the root of the problem is you don't love yourself. So let's figure that shit out before we start injecting, applying, putting these fricking filters. I'm just going to take a moment to go off the rails on filters, because we have talked about filters before. And, girl, it is like it like hurts my soul and my heart. I have a couple of I'll call them friends, but like they're kind of more acquaintances I legit don't know what they look like because they always use filters. And there are these filters from Instagram that they're called like natural and clean, and it basically just makes you look filtered, distorted. Distorted, yeah, it makes your skin all smooth and it makes your lips more red, distorted. Yeah, it makes your skin all smooth and it makes your lips more red. And I've done a couple of like side-by-sides and it actually freaks me out because I'm like that's not what I look like. But then I see these girls. I'm not going to name them. I never tag them when I talk about filters, but I will say, hey, you know who you are.
Speaker 2:Filter queens I don't know who you are and the thing is with that. If you're a content creator, if you're putting things out there, understand that you want people to see the best version of you. Right, you got a big zit on your face. Maybe you want to cover that bad boy up. But if you're constantly using a filter, people don't know who you actually are. The biggest thing is you don't know who you actually are. The biggest thing is you don't know who you actually are. If we're only ever looking at filtered photos of ourselves, you legit don't know what you look like, because you're going to like that version better, because that version is better. And then you get stuck in this trap of comparing. You take an unfiltered selfie and some weird light and you feel like you look like crap. And who is that person staring at you. Yeah, it's you, baby. That's your hideous troll face, just kidding. That's your beautiful face.
Speaker 1:No, it's so true, and this is something that I've talked about the last couple of years. I was one of those filter queens and I have made a conscious effort to not do that anymore, because it first of all, I always look through things, or, since I've gotten older, I always look through things through the lens of my now 15 year old cousin, and she has grown up in a time that's only social media. So if women like us, who know better, who are a little bit wiser, have a little bit more experience under our belt, are only showing up in these filtered lights, like what is that message that we're sending to the younger generations? It's telling them that they're not good enough yeah.
Speaker 1:And there's nothing and you can do all the plastic surgery and injectables you want. You will never look like that filter, Never never.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing. Oh my God, these girls are taking their filtered photos to men's laws, to the plastic surgery yes, yeah, and it's like, oh, can you make me look like this Girl? No, can you learn to love yourself for who you are? Because, like you said, god made you this certain way and I understand that. You know, okay, if you've got something crazy going on, if there is something that is like medically necessary, if you are like, oh my gosh, I've literally hated this part of myself my whole entire life, fine girl.
Speaker 2:But the thing is, we are living in this world of fake and all of the celebs are not being truthful about what it is that they're doing. And then even us in our 30s I'm in my deep 30s, girl I see these other celebs, some of them who are not that much older than me, or some of them who are younger than me, are'm wrinkly, I'm not good enough, and I'm 37. And that's hard to deal with as a yoga teacher a face yoga teacher. So how would a 15 year old little girl be dealing with this when she's already got self-esteem issues, when she's already thinking that she's not pretty enough, not good enough, not whatever enough, and then being pushed that she needs to start getting baby Botox in her 20s. That is not okay. So I'm here for not only my sisters and my peer group, but also my little sisters. I want to be that natural aging role model for the gals in their 20s and their teens right now who are thinking that 37 is old, thinking that 37 is old.
Speaker 2:I got asked the other day. I was out dancing and it happened to be Greek life day and I'm dancing by this girl and she's like, oh yeah, I'm here with my little and I'm like, oh cool, what sorority are you in? She tells me and then she goes what about you? I'm like, bitch, I'm 37, but also Kappa, alpha, theta. So I just said that and then I was like, yeah, I joined in 2009. And I'm like she was probably like in diapers in kindergarten.
Speaker 2:And you know, it's again not for me to be out here trying to be 21 or trying to pass for 21. It's not about looking young, it's about accepting ourselves for who we are. And I'm going to just keep my mic because I want to share this other anecdote from our first round of our group. I had this assignment where we had to share our natural aging role model, which was very hard for all of us because, like, who do you pick who is aging naturally? And someone picked her mom, which I thought was really sweet and precious, but it was really challenging for the rest of us. And we had this moment where we were just like talking about aging naturally and, oh my God, I just lost the whole thread of my thought and I'm not going to just keep talking if I've totally lost it. Where were we at before?
Speaker 1:So you were sharing an anecdote about your first round and sharing your natural role model goals, naturally remember what it was.
Speaker 2:So this was when someone was like picking out, like, oh, if I had been able to pick a few years ago, I would have picked Nicole Kidman. And we were all like, okay, obviously you can't pick her now. This lady can't close her mouth, okay, you can't tell what she's trying to emote, because her face, her forehead is.
Speaker 1:I know, and it's funny because as you start to age, your skin also gets thinner. I know and it's funny because as you start to age, your skin also gets thinner. So these women who are doing Botox, like her skin on her forehead looks like you could just like rip it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she looks like a lizard and she's not an actress anymore because you cannot tell what her character is trying to be. So I shared all of this with my group and shared this truth bomb that I never thought that I would say here on a podcast. But fuck it, this is the podcast to say it on. This is the podcast to say it on, and I'm going to try not to cry because that's not good podcast content. I was sharing this concept of really sinking into who we are and accepting ourselves for where we are, because we cannot freeze ourselves in time.
Speaker 2:I do not look 21 and this girl who's asking me what sorority I'm in fine, maybe it's dark, maybe I had makeup on, I don't know, maybe I could pass for 21 for like two seconds until you hear me talk, and then you're like, okay, clearly she's a millennial, but I shared that we are not the same people. There's absolutely no way that we can freeze ourselves in time. So can we learn to accept our faces for where they're at now, which means I feel like I know that my most youthful beauty moments are behind me, pretty and young and whatever, a few years ago, and now I have a woman face and my eyes are more deep set, my skin is different, my cheeks are different. So can I sink into the beauty of my woman face rather than the beauty of my girl face? Because I don't have a girl face anymore. I'm never going to have a girl face again.
Speaker 2:I'm 37. I'm knocking on 40s door, so can I love my almost 40 year old face? And, yeah, it's something different. It's not full of collagen anymore, it's not bouncy. I still get zits, I still have wrinkles. But can I love myself for this version, instead of saying, oh, but I'm not 25 anymore, you're not and you can't be again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so get over it.
Speaker 2:Get over it, sis.
Speaker 1:It's so true because if we freeze ourselves at the age that we are like we would be dead. Yeah, yeah, and it would be really weird.
Speaker 2:Honestly, it would be really weird if I had a 20 year old face, I think, because then we'd all look like Nicole Kidman.
Speaker 1:But would we? Because she? I don't think she looks like she's 20 or 30 or even 40 anymore. I think she looks like a 50 or 60-year-old woman that's done a ton of shit to her face. Yeah, she looks like a 50-year-old lizard and I think we've talked about this on our podcast in the past. But I have worked at a med spa in the past and actually one of the injectors that I used to work with I actually really liked her because she wasn't like oh, I'm going to make you look 20 years younger. She's like no, you're going to look your age. You're just going to look your age with work done.
Speaker 2:I love that, See, and that honesty in that is a banger. I follow, actually on Instagram a fair few injectors on my face yoga page because it's fascinating to me. It's fascinating to see what they say about this, that and the other thing. And there are sometimes that there's this one gal I follow that she's like don't do Botox in your 20s, that's stupid. Also, don't do Botox in your 30s because that's not what it's there for. And if you want to do Botox, then start in your 40s because that's kind of what it's for and that's when it matters more. Blah, blah, blah. But then there's these other ones who are saying you know, oh, you got to start your baby Botox in your 20s. Just get a little bit. Just get a little bit so that you're training your muscles. You're not training your muscles, You're atrophying your muscles. You are literally paralyzing your face from your 20s. That's your best moment.
Speaker 1:And the real truth of that is they're trying to sell a drug. Oh yeah, period. They're trying to sell a drug, period, end of story. It's a marketing ploy. Yeah, it has nothing to do with how your face is going to react, how you're going to look better, how it's going to work. It's actually probably going to stop working when you want it to work, and then you're going to be fucked.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, I feel like and I've shared this with a fair few of my millennial clients who are very anti-injection that there's going to be a moment and I think it's probably going to happen when we're like mid-40s, maybe early 50s, where all of the gals who have been getting Botox are going to look a lot worse than us. And I'll just say that in the most real way. The thing is, when you are Botoxing your face, you'll have other muscles start to compensate for the things that your paralyzed muscles can't do. So, say, if you get Botox on the side of your eye just for your crow's feet, that muscle is a circle, so if you paralyze just one side of the circle, then the other sides of the circle are going to be working harder. So if you get Botox on the side of your eye, you might end up starting to get a little tiny line right next to your nose they call them bunny lines, kind of like when you scrunch your nose up.
Speaker 2:And there's not a lot that you can do about that, say face yoga wise. So the thing that might happen to these gals I'll say just gals, people who are getting Botox is that they're going to have wrinkles that can't be addressed by face yoga, Because face yoga is for the way that our faces naturally move, and how can we adjust these things or affect these things in the way that faces are made to move? So I think that there's going to be a moment where the the natural aging girlies are gonna pop up and everyone's gonna be like oh my god, we're gonna have our moment yeah, and we're gonna be like oh yeah, we never got botox we never got botox.
Speaker 1:We use castor oil and beef tallow on our face.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love that.
Speaker 1:You know my boyfriend's grandmother. She is in her late 80s and her skin is so beautiful and she swears she has used vitamin E oil her entire life and she swears that that's that's the key.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. Well, and that's the thing is that, like, start asking the people around you. You know your mom, your aunts, your grandmas, other people's moms, aunts, grandmas. You know what's, what's your skincare routine, and sometimes y'all it's genetics, right, I'm not going to lie, genetics is a very, very big part of what we look like, our facial structure, our muscle movement, what we look like, our facial structure, our muscle movement, all kinds of things, the density of our facial tissues all of that really, really matters for how we're aging, and that you can again check out your parents. Do they have maybe fewer lines, but they're maybe a little deeper, or do they have a lot of little tiny lines? That's going to affect how you're aging also. But again, can we learn to accept these things rather than living in this society where it's all about being young?
Speaker 1:That is a mic drop moment. Drop the mic. Well, I feel like that is the perfect place. So you are coming up on your second round of find your face freedom. Tell us a little bit about that yeah, girl. So uh, miss Gianna is actually going to be in this round yes, because you know I fell off the wagon the first round, so I will be completely transparent about that.
Speaker 2:I love it. She fell off the invisible wagon because there ain't no wagon. It just wasn't the right moment. But now it's the right moment because here's the thing it's going to be even better this round and you can do whatever you want. Because again, it's not about like, oh my God, I didn't do every single assignment, oh my God, I missed this workshop. If it takes you more than the amount of time to do it, that's fine. These are tools that you get to have for the rest of your life to move through your own face freedom journey. So we are starting in just over two weeks. Oh my God, just over two weeks. Yes, and this episode.
Speaker 2:I'm going to put it out today. Oh yeah, thanks. Well, amazing, I am debuting it today, may 9th, we start. I'm looking for five gals or people because I'm down for people Dudes have faces too who are ready to just like find their face freedom. And here's the thing Our face freedom is again more than about what we look like. This is about how you're moving through the world. So we start on May 9th.
Speaker 2:We've got six live group calls, which means our whole group gets together on Zoom. Sometimes there will be some teaching and sometimes there will be some connecting awesome community that we've got on Slack to connect with our fellow Face Freedom friends and share our aha moments, questions, thoughts, anything new that's coming up for us. Moments, questions, thoughts, anything new that's coming up for us. We also have three one-on-one sessions. So these are basically private sessions with me that each person gets. Where we dial into your own personal practice plan, which is what does Gianna's face need? Because Gianna's face needs something different than what Kat's face needs, needs something different than what Ryan's face needs, right? And if we're all just doing the same face yoga, then we're not dialing into who we are. So these one-on-one sessions are really an awesome moment for us to tune into what's actually going on for us.
Speaker 2:Every week. There are weekly emails. You'll get a playbook that's got all kinds of different explorations, exercises, workshops, prompts I've got a few recorded workshops that I freaking love and love to share, and what else? Just an awesome, awesome community. But truly, I have seen the people in the first round. Not only do their faces look different and we're all attesting to it, you know, we're on our last live call and's like oh my God, you look so different, you look so energetic, you look so lifted, alive, so happy, so joyful, so peaceful, but we feel different and we're moving through life differently, and I think that that's the main thing. I think that, yeah, it's cool that your face might look different, it's cool that your cheeks are more lifted, your jaws more defined, but it's cooler that you feel more peaceful and you notice that people are talking to you more friendly. Also, what lure that you've stopped getting tension headaches. It's cooler that you realize that you used to be really mean to yourself and now you're not.
Speaker 1:And what like better compliment than you look happy, you look peaceful? Like there is no better compliment, because it's like yeah, I fucking did that work, get there. That didn't just like, I didn't just wake up on the right side of the bed.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It's like the very opposite of when people go. You look tired, so mean so mean.
Speaker 1:It's so to say I just, I just look like, shit like fine.
Speaker 2:So if anyone's told you lately that you look tired, I think you need some face freedom. Y'all yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1:I would love actually for the you know how I usually put up a little photo. You should do your side by side, your before and after.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, I would love that y'all in 90 days, and I've I've been practicing face yoga for a while.
Speaker 1:My 90 days of this first five years now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, four, four or five years, four and a half years, Um, but again, I don't practice every day and that's something that I also really want to drive home to the listeners, to my students, that it doesn't have to be this all consuming thing. I think that there are some women out there who spend like four hours on face care. Fine, I think that's psychotic, but fine.
Speaker 1:I got. How do you have those extra? Yeah, how do you?
Speaker 2:have those extra four hours. I have so many better things to do with my life, but I can slide some face yoga in when I'm hanging out watching TV with my husband. I can slide some face yoga in while I'm getting ready for work in the morning. I can slide it in when I wake up in the morning and get a little tension and release and some lymph drainage. That kind of stuff is important and it's again, I think, more important than what we look like Getting our lymph flowing. That's for your body, for your health, for your life, and it's going to make your face look snatched Awesome.
Speaker 1:And like talking about vitality, like we know so little about the lymph and lymph is something that I'm very passionate about and like more than one third of our body's lymph nodes are from our collarbones up. So like you're talking about, like the face and neck and decollete, like it is an important part for health.
Speaker 2:It's super important. That was actually. Probably my very favorite week was the one on lymphatics, because I learned so much. I actually spent that whole week that I was making that playbook.
Speaker 1:I made it while I was jumping on the trampoline, so that was really fun and what like, as an adult, to do these things like jump on a trampoline, like how much joy does that bring you? And you're like, oh, and I'm moving my lymphatic system, oh, yeah, and that's the thing, y'all it's.
Speaker 2:There's so many more pieces that are important than again what we look like are moving our lymph, moving our blood, moving our muscles. These are insanely important and I think that everyone could attest to that Right. Any schmo listening to this right in this very moment could be like, oh yeah, blood flow, that's a good idea. They might not know what lymph is, but they'd be like, oh yeah, moving your muscles is probably good. But when we do things like paralyze our face muscles with tox, we are not getting blood flow, we are not getting lymph flow and we are not moving our muscles. And when those things are important for our life, our health, our vitality, then you're trading your vitality for your beauty and I'm sorry that's not a good trade.
Speaker 1:No, I totally agree.
Speaker 2:And because, also, if you bump up your vitality, you're also going to bump up your beauty. One of the gals in my program. I think one of the biggest shifts that she had was that lymphatics week where she realized like, oh, oh, my God, my cheeks aren't fat, I'm just puffy.
Speaker 1:Whoa, and like you move the lymph and then you find out what your face really looks like.
Speaker 2:Yes, and her face looks totally different, like her jaw is all defined, her cheeks are super lifted and she looks like a different person. Even halfway through the program she had these amazing before and afters, before and midways, oh.
Speaker 1:I love this.
Speaker 2:This was such an exciting talk. Yes, oh my gosh. And I'm so excited for the next round because I, like I said in the very beginning, I found my passion, I found my purpose. This work is needed and it's always going to be needed, and I'm never going to stop doing it. So if y'all aren't ready to join me on May 9th, then get ready to join me in September, and if you're not ready in September, then get ready to join me in January, and if you're not ready in January, then I'll be back in May. So it's just going to keep on, keeping on, and I want you to be there.
Speaker 1:I love that because you actually posted about this and you were like, if you don't read this, if you save it and look at it six months from now, a year from now, like you're planting the seed. So like, don't pressure yourself. Like for me, like it wasn't a fit to do it this winter, it was just like too crazy. But, and you know, may might be even crazier because I, that Gemini energy swept me in and I am ready for summer and I scheduled like 600 events in May.
Speaker 2:So, yes, I love that. Well then, you know what? We'll just keep on keeping on in in the most easy way possible, because the name of my business is Be Easy, and I want us to just be easy. Be easy about your homework, be easy about your program, be easy about your face, be easy about your life. And how can we again just keep reminding ourselves of this? Because it's easy to forget. It's easy in our culture to forget that being calm is good, because we're so used to just going hard, and that's not what it's about.
Speaker 1:No, I totally agree, and like what a projector sentiment to kind of wrap things up on is, like it doesn't have to be that complicated, you don't have to put that much effort in or like grind yourself down to the point of burnout, because like you're doing the opposite of the intended effect, and so I just think that, yeah, that's such a helpful reminder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're literally here to have fun and find freedom and I want us to lean into that, be easy and find your face freedom. It's not about be intense and find your face perfect, because that's not real. And let's have fun with it and let's be easy with it, and I'm excited to flow with you and whoever else we get the next round is going to be just the most perfect people, because it always is. Everything's always working out for us.
Speaker 1:Make sure to send me that sign up link so I can link it in the show notes for everyone. So if you're hella easy, find your face freedomcom. Oh, love that, that'll be. Everyone will remember that. So if you are curious about this program or want to reach out, you can go to find your face freedomcom. Or cat, where can?
Speaker 2:they find you. You can find me on Instagram. I am at be easy face yoga. Those are two separate words be easy face yoga. You can also find my website, that's be easy dot life. And yeah, I would love to be friends with you, love to find face freedom with you, love to just be here in the wings for whenever you are ready to dive right in yes, if you're not ready to sign up for a full program, you have a free offer too I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's my free tension release guide so you can find that link is on my instagram free tension release guide and then you'll also get my newsletter so you'll be in the loop in the know for any other workshops that I run, any other programs that are coming up. I probably will eventually have a face freedom light for those who are like maybe not ready to like fully dive in but maybe just get a little bit, a little bit of freedom. But the the full program is the jam. I really encourage you to check it out. If anything, just please check out my website. It's so beautiful. I'm very proud of it.
Speaker 1:You have done amazing work and in the last couple of years it's been so inspiring to just watch you blossom and to really come into your passion. So this episode has been, I feel like, excited and ready for life you even look different.
Speaker 2:Look at that.
Speaker 1:I know I was kind of stressed when we first got on here, because we were both running a little bit late and I was just like consumed with all of the shit that I have to do this week. And so, yeah, I I feel lighter, I feel better. So thank you for connecting with me today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think we both look a little bit more lifted and alive and calm. But, thank you so much for this. I love chatting with you on the pod, love sharing about this awesome, awesome thing, and thank you, all listeners, for being here with us.
Speaker 1:Thank you for being here with us. It's been an amazing episode and thank you all so much for tuning into today's episode of the Nearly Enlightened podcast. If this conversation resonated with you, I would love for you to share it, leave a review or reach out to me and let me know your thoughts. And if you're looking for more ways to deepen your connection to body, mind and spirit, check out my Meditate to Elevate my guided meditation portal or visit nearlyenlightenedcom for more resources. Until next time, stay curious, stay connected and remember the answers are already within.