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Join Nearly Enlightened's host Giana Giarrusso and discover the body, mind and spirit connection! The Nearly Enlightened Podcast is for the soul-centered seeker who is on the path of personal growth and spiritual development. This podcast takes a light-hearted approach exploring topics rooted in themes of mental, physical and spiritual wellbeing.
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The Sacred Spiral: Healing Isn’t Linear with Danielle Manseau
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Ever feel like you're stuck in the same patterns, facing the same emotional triggers or life challenges on repeat? You’re not stuck—you’re moving through the sacred spiral of healing. In this deeply insightful episode, Giana sits down with Danielle to explore the cyclical nature of personal growth and how we can find empowerment, not frustration, in revisiting familiar themes with fresh eyes.
Together, we unpack what it means to move through cycles of transformation, especially as sensitive souls, empaths, and spiritual seekers navigating big energy shifts—like the recent Scorpio full moon. We talk nervous system regulation, the mind-body-spirit connection, and the importance of integration and sacred pause.
✨ Topics we dive into:
- How the Scorpio full moon stirs deep emotional waters—especially for empaths
- Understanding your nervous system as a dragon: a metaphor to help reframe anxiety as protection
- Why healing isn't linear and how the sacred spiral offers new wisdom at each pass
- You can only be as spiritual as you are grounded—and vice versa
- Why time isn’t linear (and how trusting divine timing leads to real closure)
- The power of integration, embodiment, and slowing down so your nervous system can catch up
- Honoring ancient healing practices while navigating conversations around cultural appropriation
- How different healing modalities—yoga, therapy, energy work—are all speaking the same soul language
I also get personal, sharing a vulnerable moment when I had a panic attack while teaching yoga—and how that moment turned into a heart-opening connection with my students. Plus, I reflect on what it meant to get an unexpected call from an ex—two years post-breakup—and how manifestation works in divine timing, not ours.
This episode is for anyone walking the healing path, feeling the waves of old wounds resurfacing, and wondering if they’re really growing. (Spoiler: you are.)
✨ Join us live: Come experience our Sound Bath Duet at Sway Yoga in Coventry on Friday, May 16th at 7PM!
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Welcome to the Nearly Enlightened Podcast, a high vibe toolbox designed to help you connect to your body, mind and spirit. I'm your host, gianna Giarrusso, and I'm here to share tools, conversations and insights to help you on your journey of self-discovery. This podcast is all about exploring what it means to live a conscious, connected and nearly enlightened life, because, the truth is, the answers aren't outside of us, they're already within. Let's dive in. Today, I am joined by our friend, danielle. Welcome back, danielle.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:I know so much to talk about. I feel like it's been, like it's been a long time, a couple months since you've been on last and it feels longer. It does feel longer. It actually might be like a couple weeks, but that's okay, neither here nor there. Um, we're just coming off of the scorpio full moon, and that was a lot I literally haven't for the empath, I have not slept in over a week, like it is actually kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:It's been really messing with my sleep and I know that's kind of like an indication like maybe like it's time for a parasite cleanse, but that's like a story for another day, yeah, but yeah, like we could go on about that for hours I know. Cause you've been detoxing too.
Speaker 1:So I mean it's a huge part of especially this full moon, I had some like dormant stuff come up and I was like that's a scorpio energy once and for all, yeah that scorpio energy, yeah so, but the like few sleeps that I did get here and there, like I had some intense dreams yes and yeah, it's just been. I'm like ready to, I'm ready to move past this energy a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's been intense today's, like my first day I'm feeling to move past this energy a little bit. Yeah, it's been intense. Today's, like my first day, I'm feeling a little bit relieved and over the weekend I was like crippled, literally like crippled to the core. I was having such severe stomach issues. Yeah, I was like crippled by anxiety. I think for empaths right now is really challenging uh, energy because we have Pluto in retrograde, which is challenging or like, I guess not challenging but bringing us into a deeper sense of safety here on earth. And if you're not feeling safe on earth, wow, it's funny.
Speaker 2:I was like cruising, and then I was like, oh shit, I'm not, like I have a lot of my sense of safety wrapped up in like freedom, but then my freedom is wrapped up in like a sense of abandonment. So there's like so many layers that I think people are experiencing that they are able to like in my line of work and in shamanic practice we call it like the sacred spiral, where you're on the same journey but you're looking at it from a different viewpoint. So it feels like you're going backwards, but you're actually not. You're just in a different space, on the staircase and you're at a higher level.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're at a higher level. So I'm looking at these things and I'm noticing there's certain ways that I'm like feeling that I maybe would have, in a lower consciousness, thought like, oh, it's anger, or it's like somebody else like pushing it off, but now it's like, okay, these are all my emotions and my, my physical body needs to feel them and ouch. I know a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 1:I know and you know it's. It's funny you say that you like get to a place where you're like coasting and you're like, oh, I'm good. I was like very much the same and last week I had a lot of anxiety and I had a full-blown I talked about it on the podcast, I believe like last week, but I had a full, a full blown panic attack while I was teaching. Oh my God. And that is so scary because, like, first of all, I felt like I was going to pass out, like my legs and arms went numb and I'm like, yeah, you pass out in this class If I go down, like what, what is everyone going to do? Like we're in the middle of a yoga class, like they're here to unplug and like just have an hour.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, oh, this is like just what I need but, like I felt like I was in the spiral, and then it was like a heated power yoga class. So I just brought everyone down to a seat and I was like, okay, I was super transparent. I was like I am in the middle of a full-blown panic attack right now, like I'm trying to pull it the fuck together and like we're all going to sit here and breathe for a minute. And it was very helpful. And it reminded me of like why I got into this. Like I have suffered with anxiety since I was 10. The first time I had a panic attack I was like 10 years old, so so young. I was always searching for the tool to like alleviate this, and so it was just a reminder of like okay, lean on your tools. Like you're going to get through it. This is only temporary. This, too, shall pass, and like, of course it did, and I'm right.
Speaker 2:And in the middle of a, class and teaching where you're wanting to like be the leader, but have to show that you're just like everybody else and that you have your own shit too.
Speaker 1:It's like crippling it, you're just like everybody else and that you have your own shit too. It's like crippling, it is and it's scary and I'm like, oh, all I need is for somebody to be like this was you know, go to the owner of the studio and be like this was a shitty class because Gianna wasn't present, and like this whole thing happened. But, honestly, everyone was super supportive and like two different people came up to me and they were like, oh my God, I have been experiencing anxiety. Like anxiety is something I deal with. Like thank you for just being keeping it real?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, I mean I think with a full moon too, like I think we should like talk about some parasitic energy, because that's when parasites are the most active and I'm sorry, we all have them. So most people are feeling extremely ungrounded physically, like agitated and aggravated and just like antsy. And I don't know if you noticed there was a shit ton of traffic which people can start losing their shit over traffic, like if you're not, not grounded and you're being like your vessels being driven by, you know know, like an entity, like a parasite or someone else's energy, then like you're not going to feel good and it it really can take over. So I mean I see that a lot during the full moon, so I'm like I mean it's intensive, I mean they're, they're beautiful and I think, especially for women, because we are in the same cycle as a moon, that we feel it maybe a little bit more intensely or a little more aware of it.
Speaker 2:Yep, you know, I think that there's definitely men out there who are aware of it too, but I think it's just more prominent, naturally, within a female, because of our own 28-day cycle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. It's funny, like the last, like I would say, for like almost the last year now I've been on like my cycle has been pretty synced up, where I am ovulating with the full moon and I'm bleeding with a new moon.
Speaker 2:Same. Oh funny, it's been interesting. It's an interesting dynamic. You know when it, when it shifts and it changes and stuff, and you kind of have to go with it. Like you kind of tell where you are when it, when it shifts and it changes and stuff, and you kind of have to go with it. It's like you kind of tell where you are in life when, when it, your cycle starts to shift. But it's kind of exciting if you look at it through that that lens. But still it can be like also feel like a lot of pressure and a lot of things like happening.
Speaker 2:One thing that came up to with this this full moon was, I noticed I really wanted everyone else to do everything for me and I was like this goes along with that sense of safety and it's like it cannot come from outside of you, it cannot like no one else can do anything to make you feel secure, Like they can do that, but it's just going to mask and so finding that own like your own inner sense of safety, and I found it helpful, helpful to like get back to what are your values, what are you rooting into? Another thing that we connect into in shamanic practice is Mother Earth. Like you're grounded in Mother Earth, you're connected to Father Sky or Father Son, whatever you want to call it, because they're the divine parents.
Speaker 1:Right. And also like going, like taking it even a step further, like you can only be as grounded as you are spiritual and spiritual as you are grounded Right.
Speaker 2:So you have to be the pillar you're in between. Like you're bridging the gap between the spiritual world and the physical world. Like that is you and both are running through that channel which is like your chakra system. So that's calming to the nervous system, creating that inner sense of safety.
Speaker 2:I actually just saw on TikTok someone posted what was like the most life-changing thing that your therapist told you and someone said my therapist told me to that my nervous system was a dragon and that it was here to protect me at like fiercely. And I was like, oh my God, that like makes sense with like the whole dragon thing. And it's so true. Like you have to let your nervous system override and not let your emotions override the nervous system and not let your experience override the nervous system. Like your nervous system has to be solid and always recalibrating in order to return to that inner sense of peace, that inner sense of safety. I just like thought it was such a good analogy. I'm like I'm gonna call on a red dragon now to oh, I love that work my nervous system.
Speaker 2:This is just like going to be my new thing. I love whatever color dragon you want.
Speaker 1:Um, I love that and you were talking about, so you have this monthly. Uh, actually it's weekly, isn't it?
Speaker 2:So it's weekly, so it's a monthly um membership, like a monthly subscription, but I have my weekly energy healing and clearings called Revitalize. So every week on Tuesday, 12 to 1230, I go live on Google Meet and if you can join, you join in, but if not, you get the replay and your energy is being worked during that time and I'm doing the energy work and the healing and the clearing, the transmission I would call it. At the same time I'm guiding you on a journey that spirit is leading me to guide. I never know what it's going to be like. I get in there and I'm like, okay, so what's it today?
Speaker 2:And actually today, because it's Tuesday, was all about finding safety here on earth and we actually went into the temple of the heart, which was where I noticed, like we were guided to look at within the heart, at the emotions, the lower beliefs, the fear that had crystallized within the heart, really paralyzing us from moving forward and moving into that sense of freedom, that inner sense of slow and being able to be authentic, and the truth of who we are. And then it like so beautifully led into, like you were able to open the door to your own little temple and there was like meeting your spirit council and maybe it was like your people in your community, maybe it was like other beings. There was a lot going on in there and then it was like Mother Earth rose to the occasion in the center of that and like just spilled out, like so all of her, like tree roots and the moss and the grass and the rivers and stuff, were flowing out and all through the body and out into life, where it's just like everything was held in this solid foundation. Because when we are unattached or ungrounded, I should say because we we strive for detachment, but when we are we're overly attached and not rooted into something meaningful. And there are some people who are meant to just be here and be like willy nilly, you know, free for all and good for them.
Speaker 2:But most empaths and spiritual leaders are here to really root into something meaningful and expansive. So there can be a real sense of like hanging if you're stuck up in the 5D and only connecting with spirit guides and only connecting with divine, going up into that meditative state. We have to go into the dark places too. We have to go into the underworld, which you know we would be considered below, below ground, and that's where we can remember that we're one with the plants, the animals, everything, but we still have the warmth of the sun to shine down on us. Yeah, so yeah, it was intense, it was great, it was great it's.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's the time of year for it. It's like we're like spring cleaning physically, but also like energetically, emotionally, and I feel like this is a really um, like we always say this in astrology, right, like I'm rolling my eyes at myself, like this is a really powerful time. But there feels something different about this May, like it feels like there are like timelines shifting. We're like, yes, moving through, I don't know, it just feels like. It feels like something different is really shifting. It's.
Speaker 2:I think it's the linear perception is really um, like falling away right now, because we're we're so used to being like life is on this timeline, like an arrow, like a beginning, middle and an end, and then we're like learning that things are um, cyclical, right, we're seeing a lot of the same stuff come up and it goes back to that spiral I was talking about.
Speaker 2:Like it seems like we're going backwards and then we're on this merry-go-round.
Speaker 2:But if you open up that circle and it turns into a spiral, you notice we're going backwards and that we're on this merry-go-round.
Speaker 2:But if you open up that circle and it turns into a spiral, you notice we're just looking at it from a new and wiser lens and a different perspective of where we might have looked at in the past. And the illusion of manipulation and things like that can come up very prominently for people if they're only in this linear mindset and they can feel like they're taking a step back or that they're too late or running out of time, or like they're on the hamster wheel, which I feel like that often and I have to remind myself I mean we're all still human often and I have to remind myself I mean we're all still human but, like we've been fed this concept of time that you know, the ancient concepts of time have just fallen away, where, like you, can heal the past and it can change what you're seeing in the, in your current reality, and you can also travel into the future and bring that wisdom back into the present reality as well, so that they're all intertwined and interconnected.
Speaker 1:So yes, I just think like that linear mindset is really a start of the new year and you feel that fire and that like readiness to the new beginning beginning.
Speaker 1:Yes, you feel that readiness to just like shed those layers and, like you said, look at things that come up through this new perspective and, um, I'll get super candid here, and I don't actually even think you know this, so this will be shocking to you too, but for many of you who have been listening to the podcast, you know that in um 20 I guess it was 2023.
Speaker 1:I went through a breakup, um, after being with somebody for almost four years and then, like we literally went from living together to not speaking and, um, there was like a lot of it was like unresolved kind of not feelings, but just like I've talked about it on the podcast, like I felt a huge betrayal and I felt like blindsided and it was just like this, what the fuck kind of thing?
Speaker 1:And I spent all of 2024 and really all of yeah, all of like the back half of 2023 and all of 2024, like really putting myself back together and moving forward and and learning from from what happened and coming to terms with the fact that like, yes, I used to live with this person, I was with them for four years and then, like strangers and out of nowhere, a couple of weeks, I get the phone call that I knew was going to happen. Oh my God, two years later, two years later, and it's like okay, if you're trying to clear your conscience, like already, like water under the bridge, like ah, right, right, like I can't even put it to words and it was only a four minute phone conversation, but it was a reminder of how far I've come, and like I, I didn't need that closure. Like the closure was the not speaking. The closure was how it all ended.
Speaker 2:Um, so old. You needed that closure, though, and it just goes to show that, like, manifestation is real, and you were manifesting that closure two years ago, yep, and now it's like, now it's a divine right time, and because you kind of let it completely go. It's like when you lose something. Once you accept the fact that you lost something, you're like, oh no, I found it. It's like, when you lose something, once you accept the fact that you lost something, you're like, oh no, I found it. It's like, once you let go and trust that it's exactly the right thing. That's when you move into the new beginning, right, and that's exactly kind of what happened to you.
Speaker 1:It only took two years, but it only took two fucking years yes divine timing baby and also like just a reminder of being in relationship, whether it's romantic or friendship or fam, familial, like sometimes it's not on your timeline or what you want, or like how you think things should be done, like that other person has to go through their experience too right everyone has free will.
Speaker 2:You can like, sense that it's gonna happen, you can want it to happen, but if that person does not have the will to do it, you can't force that.
Speaker 1:You don't want to energetically, you don't want to force that, and as somebody who's like spiritual and I hate using this word but like a healer, it's hard because you want to drag your partner along, and I would like especially towards the end of our relationship. And then, when it did end, it was like no, listen to me, cause I know what I'm talking about. Like I know this is what's going to happen, like we're going to stop speaking, you're going to stay stuck in this spiral and like, whatever the fuck you're doing, I'm going to pick up the pieces and move on, and then you're going to get it the fuck together when it's too late.
Speaker 2:And that's exactly what happened yeah, well, and that's a learning lesson for them, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly it's just to show you like it kind of shakes the platform for you to like are you happy where you are or is this going to challenge you? It's like it's your test. The universe loves to like come back and be like you said. You're really done with this, so let's give you the final exam. And that's kind of like I think people harp on why did this happen? Why is this happening? Blah, blah, blah. But it's like sometimes, when we can just like view it from the point of like oh, this is kind of funny, like yes, I still, I still am in this place of like it was the right thing. I still have and hold this belief and this value and this vision for myself and the universe is like, and this value and this vision for myself and the universe is like okay, now we move on, something next something new, but it has to come up, otherwise we don't.
Speaker 2:We can't challenge our beliefs without having contrast. And trust me, like I cannot stand the contrast just as much as somebody else, but when you really sink into the spiritual aspect of it, it's like a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but when?
Speaker 2:we have that physical reality, we're like we forget that it's beautiful. We're like, wow, the fact that it's happening to me, all these negative things are happening. It's like, okay, well, we're just being challenged. What's your value and what are you rooting into and what beliefs? Otherwise, your subconscious is orchestrating your whole life and if you have a subconscious belief or you have hidden emotions that are driving the bus, that's when you know like oh so, if you don't like your outer reality, that's when we can go in and start looking at what's subwired there and what these like different layers of are going on within you, within your energy map. And that's just like are going on within you within your energy map, and that's just like what's so cool about energy which is scientifically proven? But it's like not just spirituality. It's like this is energy and it's it's so fascinating.
Speaker 2:Yes, and this is just like the infinite consciousness.
Speaker 1:This is what we're talking about in the deep, in your practice challenge. So, like you look at it through a yogic sphere or a spiritual lens or whatever it like, it reflects each other. So, like what we're talking about right now, like we're not talking about it in the context of like traditional yoga, so to speak, but it the lessons and the tools they really mimic one another. So like they knew what they were doing 5000 years ago when they created the yoga practice. So it's funny, like just the conversation I just wrapped with the like this is kind of what we're talking about is like moving, like allowing yourself to move through these things, seeing what comes up, not letting the emotions or the thoughts, like be the driver of the bus.
Speaker 2:Right, and I tell us I say this all the time because, especially in this industry of like, we're working in the unseen realms like you and you less so like, but my, my work is in the unseen realms. I'm in the, the, the psyche of my clients and the people who I'm working with Right, and I'm guiding their journey. I'm in their journey, I'm in between worlds, I'm moving into through different dimensions which was hard to conceptualize as a human being. With you, you have like the yoga and stuff. But so what I often tell people is they're like oh, is this like? We always get that. Oh, are you the witch doctor? Are you that whatever? Oh, are you the witch doctor? Are you the whatever? So I say it to people who are, like, really heavily religious. I say it to people who are working in corporate Everybody whether you see a therapist, you are going to yoga, you're getting energy work or you're going to church, whatever your modality is, we all have the same mission. It's language. Go with what language speaks to you. I mean, I work with a lot of empaths because they're heavily in the unseen realm, right, they're not sure like, they're just absorbing emotions, thoughts, energies that are, you know, through the people, the places, the things that they're interacting with. And it's hard to understand that because they might not understand the unseen world as much as I do and what I've learned to navigate it, whereas you, like, you're working more with the physical body, and so there we have so much of the same information. So there, we have so much of the same information. It's all language. What language are you speaking?
Speaker 2:And that's what draws people to certain quote unquote healers or guides. Let's call it a guide, because that's really what it is. It's like you're guiding people to that inner peace. You're guiding people to be their own inner healer because, at the end of the day, you're not stretching for them, you're not in the down dog position for them. They're getting to that place because you guided them through the motions, through the visuals, to get there, but they found that inner peace within and they got themselves to the class.
Speaker 2:So I always say that it's like you are the one healing yourself, I'm just the guide, and when we bring you into this space and you, you can obviously get there because you did. It might take another connection, another person, to connect that bridge that you know, those, those plugs to plug that in for you to be like hey, you know, do this plug in over here, but same story over, it's all the same. Like you, you see it in the bible. You see it like I know. You know more about the bible than I know anyone I know but that's what catholic school does at catholic school for 12 years are say the same thing basically I know, I know, you know what's funny.
Speaker 1:I just um stumbled upon an instagram yesterday and it was talking about the same thing, about how we interpret the bible and the quran and the old testament, the torah. Um, we've kind of like distorted the language a little bit and, and what I said at the beginning, you know, we, we say in the spirit realm, like as above, so below, but the actual translation of that is actually that they're the same, they're one in the same. So I think that that is so interesting and I love seeing these links. It's like choose your way of getting there, but like it's, it's all just conduits and it's igniting that inner healer and that's why nearly enlightened was born. Because I could not stand being on social media, like seeing these like spiritual influencers pop up where it's like do this program and I will, I will heal you. It's like no, I will.
Speaker 2:I think it's illegal to say that I will give you.
Speaker 1:I will give you. I'm pretty sure that might connect you to your body, mind and spirit, Like I don't know it's. It's interesting but yeah, like nearly enlightened was born because I couldn't stand being practitioners who were like putting themselves up on pedestals and being like I am the way.
Speaker 2:Right, I know, and it's so. It's hard and you know what it's like. It's just hard. Social media is like exhausting, but it's all perception right. For me it feels extremely overwhelming. I'd rather have someone else do it for me. I don't post often because I'm like I for me. I'm like I have 10 people who I interact with. I know they're going to watch my stories. I'm going to post in my stories. They might say like that's bad marketing. I really don't care. The people who are going to find me are going to find me, but I also still feel guilt if I'm not posting or you know, and there's so much stigma and judgment and I think we forget that. But we're really judging ourselves and we're judging other people.
Speaker 2:So that's what we're going to be met with and we really forget about that and it's hard. It's really hard because it's all in your reality. And going back to different religions and how you're reading the Quran or the Bible or whatever it is, what's your perception? It's what you're reading, what's your interpretation of it. One person might have a really positive interpretation of it, one person might not.
Speaker 2:We can't all like the same thing, you know, but we're all relating in some way and people are just like have fallen off. It's like have some compassion, like have fallen off. It's like have some compassion hat, like we all want the same thing for the greater good, and they focus on one person or one thing that they don't like and harp on it. And that's just what I've been, what I've been finding on social media, and I'm like you know what? I can't? I cannot deal with this. I don't want to be and I will admit like if I'm going on social media, I'm I've not ever posted on Tik TOK, I'm just a scroller and I love to read the comments because they're so funny and like uplifting and different platforms you like. Maybe it's my perception of Instagram, where I'm like I find Instagram extremely boring at times and then I find like the comments are really mean. I don't really use Facebook at all anymore.
Speaker 2:But it's all perception, it's funny I have this idea in my head that Instagram is boring and I don't like it. So obviously I'm going to find more relatable content, more fun on TikTok, because I'm also kind of hiding there, because I'm not posting.
Speaker 1:Well, it's funny, like this challenge D and I keep saying it's like, yes, we put it out there to be beneficial and to bring value and to bring light to these yogic practices that kind of don't get the attention that they deserve in the modern world. But this challenge has really ended up becoming for us and we keep joking about this. And showing up on social media was a huge part of it for me because, like, I have an okay following, like it's nothing crazy, but I do have a lot of engagement and um, it's, it's building. So I I think that was part of my panic attack was like freaking out about putting being vulnerable and putting this stuff out there and like not being good with technology and there is a little bit of a cringe factor of like recording yourself and being like, oh, my god.
Speaker 1:I sound like that. I look that Like it's been a challenge to move through and like I wouldn't be able to do it without D because, like technology, it's funny because I'm sitting here doing my podcasts that I record myself and upload myself and do all the show notes.
Speaker 2:You have that person who's telling you it's safe, go ahead. It looks good, you're doing good Like. Not only that, but she has been like validation and like creating most of my my real.
Speaker 1:So like talk about, like having somebody do it for you, like I'm a projector and like I really need this team effort and so like having this team effort has been so great for me, right, yeah, and given me so much courage like so much more courage than I think that I would have had, and if anyone goes and like looks back on these reels, we've been posting pretty much daily and we've been sharing some pretty vulnerable things and absolutely.
Speaker 2:But it's like people are people want to hide right now and that's kind of what revitalize was too is like what is keeping you paralyzed and in hiding, like, which is ultimately fear of being authentic and truthful to yourself and your needs, and like something or someone, some trauma has boxed you into feeling like, and social media is kind of like a like you never know where your stuff's going, you don't know how many people it's going to reach. We've never really had that outreach before and because we's like we, when we go to sleep at night, like you're going out and like infinite consciousness, so like where, where are you going? And I, that's, I think, very scary for people and to be seen by that much it feels safer when you do it in the dream world, cause we're like okay, like musical like or like in a meditative state. We know we can reach that, but it's difficult for people right now to conceptualize and wrap their head around that. I mean myself included.
Speaker 1:It's been extremely difficult for me because, like, putting some of these things out there, it's like, oh, it goes back to that judgment piece. Because, like putting some of these things out there, it's like, oh, it goes back to that judgment piece. It's like, oh, people are going to judge me, are people going to think I'm appropriating culture? Because, like I'm not Indian or like you know, whatever the story is, that comes up.
Speaker 2:I feel it all the time.
Speaker 1:I have been moving through a lot of that I do want, because I think at this point, modern yoga, we are appropriating culture. If we're just talking about asana, if we're just talking about the physical practice, like I, I think that we are. So this was like it was something I knew I needed to do. Like, let's bring all eight limbs to the forefront because, first of all, they're great tools to have. Like, even if you never step foot on your mat, even if you never practice asana, knowing these other tools is hugely beneficial and will transform your life, like I will. I will put a guarantee stamp on that, like I know it will. That's why this practice has been around for 5,000 years, because it fucking works.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, I say that about my work too, and I like to call myself a shamanic practitioner. I don't like being called a shaman or, you know, say I'm a shaman because, well, first of all, it's wrapping your identity up in what you do and second of all, it's it's a way of life for me, for sure, but I'm practicing the tools and the techniques that have been passed on to me and the beliefs and the rituals and stuff like that. So it's an honoring of the ancient way. We're bringing it into the modern world. And I'm constantly having to ask my spirit guides, like what is this going to look like in the modern world?
Speaker 2:Because what you're showing me, or what I'm intuiting, is so like ancient. Like you, when you're thinking like we've got to have this big bonfire and it's going to be out in the middle of like nowhere and we have to, like you know, maybe people think like that they're, they're having stuff happen in like a TP or something. You know what I mean. I'm like no, no, like I just bought myself an indoor solo stove in case it's like raining and I can't have an actual bonfire. I'm like here we get out the little solo stove.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:And then we do a little ritual. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:There's so many things that, but I feel you on the cultural appropriation I it makes me feel like too like who the fuck am I Like? Cause people are really starting to want to learn now and I'm starting to have a lot of like classes and things like come through me through the lens of the medicine wheel and through the lens of shamanic practice and I'm happy to pass it on. But there's also that part of me that's like what and I also don't like criticism. So that's a great combination of not wanting to be judged and criticism and who am I right? But those are all layers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean beliefs that I've had to work through, that I'm still working through. It's all layered, layered, layered, and people just think, oh, it's a. We should be over this, we should be done with this. Like, why are we repeating history? It's like we're looking at it through a different lens. We're looking at our life from a different perspective. Now We've grown in some way, we're wiser, we're going to notice something that had once been hidden to us because either the information wasn't available, because we weren't open to it, but now we're going to understand a lot faster. And we're going to understand from that higher perspective. Right, because we're always evolving and spiraling and whether that's we're going back inward and then spiraling back out, going back into the world, I always, when I'm directing energy, I'm always like you want to hone it in close to you first. You want that spiral to come inward so that you can deeply connect with yourself before spiraling back out and sharing yourself with the world. So we got to make sure we're really clear.
Speaker 1:I mean as within, so without yes, and it's taking that time to integrate. Like we just D, and I just talked about this. It's like, well, that's why Shavasana is the most important of the poses. It's because, right, you think you're just laying there, but really it's a time to integrate all that you've learned in that class or in that practice. And if you don't allow that time for integration, then your body, your brain, it like has trouble connecting the pieces and catching up with one another. But allowing that like nervous system reset, that that's that sacred pause, right it's imperative in society where it's like keep going keep going.
Speaker 2:I know go, go, go push through like if we're resting for any reason. We're like we're not being. It's not even about being productive, it's like uncomfortable or you're wasting time and that's when people get anxiety and that's when people are like I've been in.
Speaker 2:I'm a manifester in human design, so I've been in like my manifester rest mode. Like nothing is, like no task is completing, nothing is like there's obstacles everywhere. I'm like why the fuck can't I just like accept the fact that I need to rest. Once I reset my nervous system and I got into that, okay, I was actually after a revitalized state, because it always helps me too Just like yoga helps you when you're doing it and I was like, oh, okay, this is it. Like I don't feel the need to like reach for what's next, what's next? I actually picked up my book and I was reading for like 20 minutes before we got on this call and I was like, okay, I'm feeling it, I'm into this rest and like now I feel like I'm back on track and like accepting of it.
Speaker 2:I'm sure when I go home and I'm in a house full of people who are like doing 50 things at once because they're not in their rest period, I'm going to start feeling weird again.
Speaker 2:And that's when it's like no, no, no, no. You need to have the awareness to say, okay, it's okay, it's safe for me to rest, even though all these people are moving around me and it's the same that goes out and like that's just a very um, like specific example. Like if you live with other people but you and I both live with family, so like there's people moving in in the house all the time and different types of people. Same goes for outside in the world. If you're like getting in into your car and driving, like there's all those different types of people, like some people are going to be in a hurry, some people are going to be in rest mode, going really slow, and you might be in that active state and really slow and you might be in that active state. We just need to learn and accept that everybody's on different cycles and timelines and like focus on your own energy but have compassion for others, and we lose sight of that a lot.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know, I know, I. It's like what I was talking about it. It's like sometimes you just want to like pull people up to your level, but like yeah, you can't, you have to let them go through their own process and like detach from that.
Speaker 2:Well, even in like the shamanic, through the shamanic view is like we would call that higher, that highest, like level of knowledge eagle, where you're soaring with the eagle and you can see everything for what it is and you can meet challenge when it rises and rise above right. But you can only get to that place if you are also wishing that for others, that you are also wishing the best for others. That's why when we I talk about manifestation, when I'm talking about making changes in your own life, I'm talking about for the highest good of all involved. Right, and the highest good of all involved is everyone on this planet.
Speaker 2:Because when you are setting an intention or that you're like speaking a manifestation out into the world, the whole universe starts firing behind the scenes, the whole world starts moving Like I like to think of it as like a movie, when sometimes it's like the opening of a movie and you see one person but like maybe it's an aerial view and the person's in a market and then you can see like a couple of streets over the person they're gonna meet down the line in the movie is in like a house when the window is lit up or something Like you have to think of your life like that, like things are moving and shifting for you and and around you.
Speaker 2:But that means everything else around you, the people, places, the things are shifting and moving and if you can't grasp that and you're thinking it's all about you, then you're not going to get to that level because you're going to get stuck in those limiting beliefs. You're going to get stuck in the, in the distrust. You're going to reach that level of trust for maybe a couple of days and you're going to be like I'm going to fall back in my old ways Resentment, anger. I can't coexist with people.
Speaker 1:For the projectors. It's bitterness.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think mine's like anger or frustration or something. I think it's anger, no frustration, I don't know. I think a generator, because a lot of my family um are generators, except my two nieces are both projectors. I'm like, oh my gosh, it's so funny. But um, I think a generator is feel they need to feel satisfied in order to, which is hard. It's hard to find that satisfaction to be in like their most.
Speaker 1:I need to feel at peace.
Speaker 2:That's my authenticity is feeling at peace. I'm like that tracks.
Speaker 1:I think for projectors, it's like feeling uh being invited. I think that's yes, being invited. Yeah, I think for projectors it's like feeling uh being invited. I think that's being invited.
Speaker 2:Well, I think that's like. Well, manifestors are the end, like they have to inform people um, and projectors they have to wait to be invited. I forget what it is, um that you want to be feeling. I don't know. I guess it doesn't matter, or it'll come to me, like at midnight tonight.
Speaker 1:I know, as soon as we, as soon as we hit end exactly, exactly, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:So I was just thinking about how it's like already May and we have our sound bath.
Speaker 1:I know this Friday.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited for it, though, so if any, Rhode Islanders, new Englanders, are listening.
Speaker 1:Before Friday, may 16th, we are hosting a sound bath duet at Sway Yoga in Coventry at seven um, so come and join us.
Speaker 2:It's so I love doing the duet because it's like there's never a lapse in sound. It's like there's always that movement and that flow and the rhythm going and the different instruments and, oh my gosh, we just work so well together.
Speaker 1:And I love how we set up opposite each other, so people were really surrounded in the sound and frequency. So I really I love that yeah it's.
Speaker 2:It's going to be good. I'm really excited this will be our second one. We only do it like every couple of months, so yeah, and we have nothing on the schedule for the future.
Speaker 1:So I mean there will be, but we just don't know when. It is Right, because summer, that's my time to like.
Speaker 2:I know I'm going to the beach outdoor. We should do something outdoor.
Speaker 1:I know, I know we should like, because that's just. I mean, I teach in the morning and I teach at night, and in between you will find me at the beach, in the water, like I. My body is so ready for it.
Speaker 2:Yes, like the other day it was like 72 down here.
Speaker 1:I was like it would be like a little chilly at the beach, but this is a beach day, I know well, and I'll be right down the street. I know I can't wait.
Speaker 1:I'm excited being by the beach is so. It's so healing I mean anything in nature really is. But for, like, most of my twenties, whether it was in Florida or here, like I literally lived right on the beach, right on the beach, yeah. So it's amazing that I went to a landlocked state for four years, because I I'm sure there was a lot of learning to do there.
Speaker 1:There was, there was, and the desert has like its own healing medicine, and I feel like that was my time to really like go into the spiritual cave and do the deep inner work and now it's like I've emerged, I've been, I went through like baptism by fire, and now here we are. Yeah, the ph, here we are. Yeah, yes, phoenix rises.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people are actually got the Oracle card, the Phoenix rising the other day. Yep, I know I think a lot of people are going through that, and because it feels so challenging or just like limiting, or you know, not everyone's going to feel like this at once, but everyone has felt like this at some point, where you feel like, oh my God, it's just like never ending. And then all of a sudden, the challenge lifts and it's like, no, here was the, here was the way. You just need to be patient.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, and that is so hard because it's like you just want to, yeah, like oh, but I should just meditate on it and it should just be well and we're like told that we're supposed to feel good all the time.
Speaker 2:It's like huh, I think especially women, because we feel like shit all the time. We're like what do you mean? We're supposed to feel good all the time? So there's this really like messed up, like perception that we have of what we're supposed to be. We're supposed to be happy all the time, we're supposed to be um, like I don't know.
Speaker 1:It goes back to the toxic positivity and spiritual bypassing, like the toxic positivity and the positive vibes. Only that's just spiritual bypassing, and spiritual bypassing is you're really just gaslighting yourself.
Speaker 2:If you try to bypass and you know what, you're only holding yourself up because you're prolonging your karma. I was just talking to a client about this the other day. I'm like I've had a recently and even like my own grandmother and stuff like that aging and like they're like, well, next stop's death and stuff I'm like. But you know, there's life after death Like, like there's reincarnation, like there's. If you believe in any of that, not even so.
Speaker 2:It is proven to us time and time again, every spring, every winter, every fall, that death and rebirth is constant and it's happening. We have these little deaths and little little rebirth, and I wrote a blog post about this a couple of weeks ago. But like we should be celebrating these things Like we just fear like oh, that's it. It goes back to that linear perception of time. Like there's life after death. But if you're spiritually bypassing, you're not allowing yourself to move through your karma and actually learn. And what do you want to do that in the next life for? Why don't I just do it now? Do it now, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that. Okay, so this is a perfect place to wrap up. Where can everyone find you if they want to sign up for revitalize and all of that good stuff?
Speaker 2:so my website is venusrisingricom and the revitalize membership is right in the. Um, what's at the top? What's it called? The header, the menu, the menu? You're asking the wrong person. I'm like, I know. I'm like I don't know what it's called. Um, the my blog is there. I have healing on demand, so I have recordings that you can either rent or buy. I have um different revitalized episodes for sale. If you don't want them, sign up for the membership. Um, if you don't need weekly and just what each session delves into, there's a little description weekly and just what each session delves into. There's a little description. I'm on Instagram. I think it's Venus risingri. Yeah, let me double check. I know it's. It's sickening. It is sickening, yes, venus risingri, and that's it. And my office space is based out of Coventry, rhode Island.
Speaker 1:Well, I love that and thank you for being here today and sharing with us. This was such a perfect conversation and it helped me move through some things further, so thank you for that.
Speaker 2:Good good.
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