Haute Talk with Rosalie Roberts Snyder | Making Sustainable Fashion Easy

Can one purchase really make a difference? Rosalie believes the answer starts with understanding who made your clothes and choosing brands that put people and the planet first.

In this episode of The Lexy Show, Lexy Silverstein talks with Rosalie Roberts, founder of World Changer Co., a sustainable shopping guide created to help consumers find ethical and environmentally responsible brands across fashion, beauty, food, and lifestyle. Rosalie built World Changer Co. around the idea that every purchase is a vote for the kind of world we want to create. 

Lexy and Rosalie discuss the realities of fast fashion, why transparency and worker rights matter, and how consumers can navigate the overwhelming world of sustainable shopping. They explore what makes a brand truly ethical, the importance of fair trade and responsible materials, and why finding better alternatives is one of the most powerful tools consumers have. Rosalie also shares her journey creating a resource that highlights hundreds of sustainable and ethical brands while making conscious shopping feel more accessible. 

Whether you're just beginning your sustainability journey or looking to make more intentional choices, this conversation offers practical advice for building a wardrobe and lifestyle that align with your values.

Follow World Changer Co:
📍 Instagram: @worldchangerco
🌎 Website: https://www.worldchangerco.com

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Transcript

LEX-ROSALIE

[00:00:00] Welcome to the.

Welcome to the Lexi. So fashion that gives the damn where we expose fast fashion and celebrate the brands and products actually making a difference for our planet. I'm Lexi Silverside, and today I am talking with Rosalie Roberts Snyder, creator of World Changer Co. The only sustainable and ethical brands directory and shop.

If you're new here, head@tolexisilverstein.com for information on sustainable fashion and eco-conscious living. And if you love what you hear, subscribe and share this episode. It helps more than you think. Rosalie, welcome. How are you doing? So good, so excited. I am. Do I look clear because my Zoom app is downloading right now and I could switch to that. No, you look perfect. Gorgeous, amazing. Cool. Okay, then we can just stick with this. I'm on the browser, so I didn't know if that would work, but Oh yeah. Who is, who is this little baby here?

This is Hollister and she just fell asleep, so she should probably be completely ked the whole episode. That's how it works. So. How, how old is she? She's six months. Oh my gosh. She's such a fresh little baby. Yeah, very fresh. It's flying by. It looks like this. Looks so funny. Just bald. She's so bald.

Everyone thinks she's a boy. I'd love for name. Maybe I'll give her one second. I'm gonna get her a little hat. A little hat. Aw. Oh my God. So you are Lexi. Yes, I am Lexi. So great to meet you. Thanks so much for coming on. This is the first. Baby I've had on the podcast, so this is like perfect. If she does wake up, she's usually really chill, so, oh my God, no, literally no worries at all. O obviously, if you like, well, that actually, usually I run through some answers to some frequently asked questions and one of the answers is like, this is edited, so like, no worries at all if you need to.

You know, take a break for a second. If there's, um, any background noise or anything you need to take care of, we can always edit it out. Um, or if you even just wanna like restart a sentence, um, totally go for it. Um, the questions that Abby sent over are definitely like a great guide of what we'll kind of be sticking to.

Um, I definitely stick pretty close with the questions, but no stress about like, kind of gearing your answers towards my questions. If anything else. Gear my question, questions towards your answers. So if you say something that's like, answers a later question, no worries about that. Um. What are my other things?

Oh, it's recorded video and audio. We use the video for social snippet and for YouTube only if you're okay with that. If not, we can use a graphic. That's totally great. Okay, perfect. Um, and then once. The podcast is live. Abby will send over an email with a link to the podcast, the YouTube video, the social snippet.

Um, I also tag everyone on social media and add them as a collaborator. We always encourage people to kind of accept the collaboration posts so we can get as much reach as possible. Um, and then if it like doesn't of course, match with the feed, it doesn't even really match with my feed. Um, so, uh, you can like remove it from main grid or anything like that.

Um, yeah. But no worries if not. And then I, I think, I think that's all of what I usually say, you know, for someone who has said this, that whole thing multiple times over and over and over again. I always feel like I forget something. Um, but aside from that, do you have any other questions? Um. I don't think so.

As long as I, the audio sounds good from your end and video then. Yeah, it looks great. It looks like, is this your apartment? 'cause it looks very aesthetic. Thanks. It's my house, my living room, rental house, but yeah. Gorgeous. Yeah. Gorgeous. Um, wait, I was just thought of a question. Oh yeah. Do you normally.

Finish everything in a week or are you like way ahead of time. Um, we're a little ahead of time, but Abby, do you happen to know what the date is that this is expected to release? Um, yes. Give me two seconds. Yeah, no worries. Um, just curious. I'm starting. Yeah, no, of course. I'm restarting my podcast soon, so I was excited to see how you run things and Yeah.

Yeah, we're like really ahead of schedule right now. Mm-hmm. I think we're like scheduled with edited podcasts and everything ready to go until like. March something nice 10 tentatively. We have this one going live April 23rd, so it'll be Earth month, but we can always make it sooner if you have like something coming out.

Yeah. If there's anything you Yeah, no, that's fine. Okay. Because if it's, it's if there's anything that like you are like wanting to promote or anything that comes out at a certain time, we can always. Um, move it around, but also Earth Month is a, a great month for this to be talked about. Yes. Relevant for sure.

Awesome. Well, aside from that, do you have any other questions? I don't think so. Perfect. Then we can get started with the actual podcast questions if you're ready to go. Yeah. Perfect. So  So for anyone hearing about World Changer Co for the first time, how do you usually explain what it is and what problem were you trying to solve when you created this?

[00:01:00] So if it's a one sentence answer, I say it's a sustainable shopping directory. And I like to definitely expand further because it's oh, my baby's hat. I like to expand further because I think it's very unique. There are a few other directories out there. But I have not found one, and I've asked others.

They've not found another that has over 600 brands. So it's very extensive. This just makes it helpful. The problem I was addressing originally, I started it in 2017, so it's been a while now, and I thought, okay, it's already hard enough to shop only sustainable and ethical brands. I want to know all the options.

And when I was just straight up Googling. What sustainable and ethical shoes exist. There would be some blogs that would show up and they would say, five Fair Trade Shoe Brands are titled, something like that. And in my head I thought, no, I wanna know all the options, like not just the ones that you partnered with and [00:02:00] can.

Pay you. I wanna know about the tiny brands that can't afford to pay this blog. I wanna know every single option because there's not a lot of options. It's already hard enough. And so I decided I would just start researching myself and then listing them and then started my website and then started categories with every brand I found that was legit after I audited them and made sure they were actually sustainable and ethical.

And it just kept growing and growing, but it really started small because I swear in 2017 there were like hardly any options, and now there's, I found over 600 and I have a pretty large list right now to add and I'm working on it, but I'm a new mom, so we're getting to that. But yeah, so there's more to come for sure.

Yeah, no, definitely. I think it's like the difference in. Like even a few years ago to now, 2017 feels like yesterday to me. I [00:03:00] cannot believe we're not, it's almost 10 years ago. It's That's insane. That's know, oh my god. It's impressing that spiral. Okay. That's crazy. But yeah, I think even just a few years ago to now, like the difference in how many brands are out there that are.

Sustainable and ethical is such a drastic change, which I think is really like that, like light that keeps us going keeps us fighting. It really always encourages me. The more I see like things out there that I'm like, even just when I go to a local grocery store.

And I'll see products that I'm like, oh, like this is the deodorant I buy. And it's like I buy the one thing and then I buy Refillables. And it's so cool that is at the grocery store I shop at usually even two years ago I couldn't find this deodorant and I had to order it. And so it's that's the little things that I'm like, gosh, yes.

Like we're making this more accessible. We're seeing more of these brands. That's so incredible. And I think you're so right, it's already so hard being sustainable. So having to do all the research is just like another added [00:04:00] thing that I'm like, oh gosh, I have to spend a ton of time looking into this.

So I feel like it encourages people more to just be able to go to, your website and find these places and know that you've done the research. And. I just think it, the more that we can encourage people to shop sustainably, the better. So it's great what you're doing. What was that, moment, is this, was sustainability something that you always practiced in your life or was there a mo moment or a frustration or a purchase that you were like, wait a minute.

Let me look into this. No, I love sharing, even though I should be embarrassed about it, but I did not grow up caring. At all about the environment. I'm not kidding. Like I actually remember specifically telling my sister, I don't the outdoors like this. My upbringing was the opposite. It was wild.

And even like politically, just the culture I was around was like, and if you're curious, I was [00:05:00] mostly raised in Utah. My family's from California, but just. For some reason, wherever I was in Utah, people, I don't know, we just played video games and didn't really care. It was wild. So now I'm the exact opposite.

I wanna spend every moment outside as possible. So what started was when I was working at a surf shop, I wanted to work in fashion and. I live in Hawaii. I moved when I was a teenager to Hawaii, so I was working at a surf shop because it was like the version of fashion here, just to be in the industry.

And it was actually Hurley, which was owned by Nike at the time, which was very corporate. And while I was working there, I became a manager. These were eight hour retail ships. And my coworker got hired by a small, sustainable brand, and she. Came to work one day, we had an eight hour shift together and she just gave me the entire [00:06:00] lowdown on how terrible the fashion industry was.

And she had no idea. I had no idea. I never thought about this. I didn't think plastic like was bad or anything at this point. And then literally that day I wanted to put my two weeks in, I. She just opened my eyes and it was a revelation because I was starting to question is working in fashion, really doing anything positive for the world?

Like I wanna also make a positive impact on the world. So when she said that, it was just like a light bulb moment of oh, I wanna work in sustainable fashion. But actually no I, it wasn't sustainable. It was fair trade to me. 'cause she told me about. Working like labor conditions in the fashion industry.

And I was just horrified. I watched the True Cost documentary, I did a bunch of research. I was like, I will never, I, in a span of a week probably, I said, I never wanna buy an item of [00:07:00] clothing that I don't know. Is, yeah, that I don't know is created. Ethically, and it actually did take me a few months.

There was like a few sales at my favorite brands that I couldn't resist, and it really though only took a few months before I said, no, this is ridiculous. Like, why can I not resist the sale? This is stupid. And so I made the commitments and that was. Late 2016 and I still, to this day, I have not made a purchase that I don't know is fair trade.

And to me that doesn't mean fair Trade certified, but ethically made. And of course, I could have accidentally fallen for greenwashing, but like it said, it was ethically made. So I don't buy a lot of clothes that's not thrifted. So that was a long premise to the part of sustainability where. Through that and researching brands, all these fair trade brands I was finding and starting to love, were talking about how they [00:08:00] were also sustainable.

And I just read past that. I'm like, cool, whatever. And then I start learning, oh, that means that the soil, the cotton was grown on, it didn't harm people in that. Village far off away from this country. Like it's actually helping people that it's sustainable. And I started making that connection 'cause I always have cared about people.

And then fast forward to now, I'm like, and I care about nature. Duh. Like I'm, I in love with nature. I wanna steward the planet. I love animals. So yeah, so now I'm, it's the whole package, but that was my turning point, was realizing like, why would I buy a item of clothing that the water waste, the pollution, the cotton pollution, pesticides harmed somebody somewhere else, like that's, it just doesn't make sense in my head. That was the long journey into me becoming an eco [00:09:00] freak basically now. So I love it. I think that's such a strong reality because I think, so many of us aren't really always aware of our shopping habits especially, right now when there's such a rise of fast fashion and TikTok shop and Amazon and everything is an app all of a sudden that you can buy stuff on.

It's so much like just instant shopping and oh, I saw this on this thing and I'm buying it because I saw it and I didn't even think twice about it. Going through those steps that you had gone through where it was like, first I was this and then I was this, and then I was that.

It was like, I'm like, I feel like that's like a reality of what, getting into sustainability and getting into the planet and getting into all of these things are, 'cause I feel like I was the same way where I was like I was interested in fashion and then I learned about it and then I had such a hard time.

Because I was like also fighting [00:10:00] like this, like I really want this. And then I had to sit down with myself and I was like, w why do I really want this? Do I want it? 'cause everyone's wearing it and 'cause it's on trend. Do I really need this piece? And I can like distinctly remember there was this like.

Blue sequin skirt from Princess Pauly. That was like super on trend and I really wanted it. And I was like, but I don't support Princess Pauly. What do I do? And I look back now and I'm like, if I had bought that skirt, there's no way I still would've had that in my closet. It's not really my style now.

Like I'm glad that I did not go through with it. And I stood. 10 toes down on my values and whatever. But it is definitely like a process. It does not just like your want, your need to shop doesn't just go away overnight. In fact I still have a need to shop. It just is more thought out and sustainable.

Yes. I love that. So what did you like find how was ethical shopping before you, started this? [00:11:00] Was it, what was most over overwhelming about it? What did you, how did you even find these things to start with? It was hard. Yeah. I laugh about, the items I bought originally just because they were ethical.

I was like, this is so cool, it's Fair Trade certified. I'm buying it 'cause I just love shopping. And so I guess it gave me that little dopamine spike, but it was not my style. Like the things I bought were, no offense to these great brands, but they were not my style, I was just buying them 'cause I wanted to support the brands.

So it was definitely slim pickings for me. I'm sure there were tons of small brands out there, but they just had no online presence. And but the great brands that I still love, that I found the first one ever was People Tree because it was featured on that documentary. So I immediately had one brand that I knew was good and she showed the factories where things were made in LA and and then I found.

S [00:12:00] Crochet Kids is what it was called at the time, but now it's called Known Supply. And I ended up interning them for them in California because I just geeked out over the way they ran their business. And that was huge for me. It got me to start my website. That's where they introduced me to more brands.

But it was really hard at first and I would definitely search online. And results would come up that were not true. Like they would say they were ethically made that, but they weren't. So yeah, it was tough, but definitely word of mouth actually during that internship I was geeking out being in LA just 'cause I love fashion and just thought it was so cool.

I lived actually in Newport Beach, but I went to LA for events. Through these, it was so niche, but just these markets that did exist, these events that were all about fair trade fashion. I was introduced to other small brands and not the owners [00:13:00] in person, and now it's way easy, but it was definitely tough at first.

That's so cool. I didn't know they did markets like that in la. I live in la. Where are those? They were like definitely private events and it was just because I interned for this brand. Oh, okay. So they were, yeah. Yeah. It was like small. Very niche. Yeah. That's so cool though. I love that. That's how I'll go to a vintage sale that they happen all the time in la like flea markets and whatever, and I always loved to, I think I learned it from my mother because I.

That woman is crazy and we literally will go to a rush a grocery store or something and all of a sudden we're leaving and she has five new friends and phone numbers to people. And I love to talk to people and I'll always go to these like vintage, she, and I'll talk to these people and it's it's just so interesting of getting to know them and how they start like curating vintage and then it's cool 'cause like I get to go to like their showrooms and stuff and I'm like, Ugh, [00:14:00] that's that's the best. Like I just love meeting people in this space. 'cause I all, I feel like we all have the same goal of helping people, helping animals, helping the planet.

And it's always just encouraging to find that community. But for people. Yeah, that, that's our people. So how do you decide what brands make the cut and what kind of like standards matter most to you? So really just two standards and that is that they manufacture ethically, and I'll explain that in a sec, and that they use sustainable materials, but I will add a brand if I love it so much that only has one collection of sustainable materials.

Again, I'm coming at it. I'm surrounded my whole community surrounded by people that don't have the commitment. I have to shop only ethically and I realize it's 'cause it's hard and more expensive. Other than you can just go thrift shopping. But so I just see it from the approach of, okay, maybe the whole entire [00:15:00] brand isn't a hundred percent using eco materials.

So maybe the heart of the owner isn't perfect. We don't know, but at least you're buying this item from their eco collection. And I still think that's voting with their dollar and making a statement. So that was a ramp. But I will add brands with only one sustainable collection, and then I'll just make that clear on the site that to shop only their sustainable collection. But the whole brand has to be using ethical manufacturing and the way I, my standards, at least to. Assure that is either yes, they have a Fair Trade Certification or WFTO. There's a few different certifications, but those are very expensive. So if I only did certified Fair Trade.

There would be like maybe a hundred brands on the site. So for all the others, they need to be able to show their factory and be able, if you email them and say, where is this made? They need to be able to give you the [00:16:00] address and show what the inside of the factory looks like, and maybe even have some videos or photos of it.

And that knocks out so many brands, like every brand that claims to No, 90% of brands are ethical. A lot of brands will say, yes, we're ethically made. If you email them and ask, and they'll say, because we have the SA 8,000, whatever that weird yes. You know what I mean? Commitment or BSCI, and those are not real certifications.

They're basically a pledge that the factory owner in a far off country has to sign. And once a year they can check on it. But if this far off factory is in a kind of closed country, like the owners have been known to know that they're coming for one, you can't just drop by and to clean up their act for a second for the audit.[00:17:00] 

And then everything goes back to terrible labor practice after the audit. And for a whole year it's bad. And that's not enough, that needs one of the other things. And that definitely knocks out a lot of brands and that's my standards. And I know that some people have more standards than those two.

The sustainable and the ethical. So I have different tags on my website. If you wanna shop only brands that use natural dye, which. Something I'd like to maybe eventually switch to is checking on every single brand's dyes. 'cause they can be super polluting and toxic. But that's, I'll get to that. So for now I have that check box for the brands that say, yes, we use only natural dyes.

Or if you wanna shop only vegan women owned. There's a bunch of cool other ethics. If that's your standards, but for me it's just the ethical and [00:18:00] sustainable. I think that's such, that's really great and I such a great resource. I think you're so right where it's like when they, people do like the inspections.

It just reminds me of when I think it was like. Two years ago now, maybe longer. I have no concept of time. Apparently. I thought 2017 was like last year. But when she and brought these influencers to their warehouse and they did this like whole video showing the influencers at the warehouse and the influencers were like, oh God.

One of them made a joke. It was incorrect. And she was like, I can't believe people say this is a sweat shop. I'm not even sweating. And I was like no. Oh no. That's horrible. No, I wouldn't make that joke, babe. Not when you're working with she. And which is already bad. And it straight up reminded me.

I don't know if you've ever seen the movie, it's like knives out glass onion. It's like the second of the Knives Out movie. And Kate Hudson's on it and she like has a, she's, oh God, she like has an athleisure line or [00:19:00] something. And in the movie she like signs off on producing it at a sweat shop because she thought that a sweatshop meant like it's a place where you make sweats, like sweatshirts.

Sweatpants and stuff. And I was like, that. Is that movie, but in real life. In real life. And I was just like, this can't be real. And like people were literally talking about how nice the like. Factory was. And I was like, you understand that? This is greenwashing at its finest. Like she had set this up, she and paid these influencers I don't even believe that's a factory.

I believe that they, that's like a factory. They could have rented out. Obviously I have no way of confirming that and this is all alleged. But I'm like, it was just like bad and greenwashing and it's like we, that's why we need to like, do these, re this re research or have these resources where, you know, 'cause [00:20:00] unfortunately sometimes it's easy to fall for greenwashing.

I'm sure I've done it before and just not realized that I was, being greenwashed. Me too. With that, my dog is barking. Can you hear her sometimes? Wait, what? My dog is barking. Can you hear her? Oh no. Zoom's amazing. Okay, good. Sometimes the zoom's good about like making some things but not others.

Yeah. I'll let you know if it's recording the dog. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Yeah. With that, what are some of the biggest like greenwashing red flags that you've seen and how do you try to maybe protect shoppers from I. Just learned that some fast fashion brands because we're becoming aware to the cotton industry and how it is.

I just became aware that some fast fashion brands are putting tags on their clothes that say a hundred percent organic cotton, and the tag means that the 50% cotton in their half polyester shirt. Is organic. Oh my God. No, it's crazy. It's, I'm like, I would've never known 'cause I don't step foot into these stores.

Yeah. But actually I sometimes do, 'cause it's entertaining to see what's on trend, but [00:21:00] I haven't in a while, haven't had time to, and so thank God for the internet. I find these things out and then I can share like, Hey guys, don't believe this. Always it's, it reminds me of. Food companies that will make their logo look like a farm and have the farmer's name and the title and just leaves on the packaging and it looks healthy and people fall for that.

But they don't flip the box over and look at the ingredients. I can make fun of them 'cause I've definitely done that myself. But now I always looked ingredients. And so it's the same thing with clothes. Now, unfortunately, we need to look inside. Check the tag every time. Even baby clothes I thought would never have polyester.

But yeah, if I don't check that tag, I've found her wearing some polyester onesies. So don't just look at the tag, the label is what they want you to see. Look at the ingredients. That materials tag that is actually in every [00:22:00] item of clothing legally. And then more greenwashing. Definitely just what I was talking about with, I guess this is ethical washing, but just with those statements online that honestly you can email any brand, any clothing brand that exists and ask.

Are you eco-friendly or ask are you ethical? And they will always say yes because think about the person on the other side. They don't wanna believe they're working for a bad company, so they've been told, yes, we're ethical, we're sustainable. And then they will say yes, and then send their little sustainable sustainability page.

And that's not enough. You need to be able to see the address of the. Factory, if you ask, they'll be proud of it if it's ethical. And we wanna be able to see what the materials are. And last, is that just a hundred percent cotton isn't sustainable. It is bad for the planet if it's not organic because we don't eat cotton.

So the industry, they [00:23:00] just spray, they douse those cotton plants with chemicals because we don't eat them. Buy organic cotton. A lot of brands will say we're all natural because they use a hundred percent cotton and no polyester, but that's not good enough. Yeah, I think that I saw a TikTok that was like growing up is checking the tag for the like.

Fabric makeup rather than the price tag. And I was like I definitely still check the price tag, but I also thrift most of my clothes anyways. So I was like, that is true. 'cause I was like, I do go and even though I'm thrifting, like I, I wanna make sure the clothes that I am. Putting on my body are gonna, be good for me.

They're not gonna release a ton of microplastics when I wash them. And I think that's definitely something that we should all be practicing more of is, and I don't know if it's just because my algorithm probably knows me pretty well, but I've been seeing so many people [00:24:00] that. Similar to what you were saying, where it's like they didn't even, they're not even necessarily talking about like the sustainable aspect of things, but there was like a yoga teacher that I kept seeing come up on my feed and she was like wearing outfits as a yoga teacher that don't include any polyester.

And she was talking about all of the like. Organic cotton brands that she will buy stuff from. And I was like, see, it's interesting 'cause like again, she's not necessarily be sustainable. It's more just like these have chemicals, this is bad for you. Especially if you're doing the yoga or working out and like your pores are opening 'cause you're hot and you're sweating.

I think that's it's always important to meet people where they're at and if that's something that they're interested in, whether it's yoga or food or home decor or clothes or anything like that. Like telling, showing them like how to be sustainable, how to support ethical in a way [00:25:00] that they're like interested in it.

Where it's this doesn't have Paul yester in it. Isn't that cool? Yeah. I love that. So what do you think, you have, a platform that makes ethical shopping feel more accessible. So what do you think people still misunderstand most about sustainability or shopping sustainable?

I think that a lot of people still aren't on the thrifting game, so they think that they can't afford to shop sustainably. Also I do see, I haven't actually gone to a thrift store in months, which is so unlike me. But again, new mom and so I like to get as much as possible secondhand. So I've been shopping on Merc, which is a cool app.

Depop if I'm really wanting something trendy or I have a wedding coming up. So I got a cute dress on Depop. Oh yeah. Yeah, not my wedding, another wedding. Poshmark, [00:26:00] even eBay. I've heard people are buying cute clothes on eBay. I love eBay. I'm a big, I think eBay's super under hyped, but also I'm okay with it staying that way so I can keep finding the good fines.

So you get the good stuff. Yeah, totally. So secondhand makes. Everything cheaper also that you have to have this either boho aesthetic or homestead or just neutral in general. I am none of those. I love color. I have always loved fashion. So I actually do love what's on trends even though it's wasteful.

So I find my happy balance, but we all fall for it. Like the people that think that trends are bad for the planet like they are, but they also fall for it. Like they're not wearing high waist if low waist is in or low waist, if high waist is in, like they're falling for what's in without even knowing it.

So yeah, you don't have to be dressed [00:27:00] weird or neutral colors, even though I love my neutrals too, but you can honestly have any style these days. And shop sustainably. Yeah, I think those are the top two I can think of. Yeah, no, completely. I think that's, it's just that the more we talk about, sustainability, hopefully the more people will learn that like some of the things that they're already doing in their life are considered sustainable.

They're just not necessarily realizing it, like keeping something in your closet and wearing it over and over again. Or thrifting or borrowing or, even I, it gets shade, but I'm a big fan of like re-gifting things. If I get something from someone that I don't really think it's my style or I like it, but I, already have so much stuff, I don't need more.

But I think that my one friend would like, love it. I totally think that it should be more normalized to re-gift things. Yeah. Yeah. That's been [00:28:00] something that I feel like I, I'm like, it's so cool. It's just that I've got gifted it and I've never worn it in the. Time that I've had it, but I think that this person would really like it and actually wear it.

No, no harm done. Yeah, on that note another thing that people do that they don't realize is so sustainable is clothing swaps. And I'm sure that doesn't happen everywhere, but I know in a lot of towns where I live, especially younger. Adults, teenagers love clothing swaps because it's your friend's item, but it feels new to you and it still gives you that dopamine of shopping and having something new.

And also me and my friends lately have been shopping each other's closets before trips. Oh, completely love. It's so fun to have a new outfit on a trip. Not very eco-friendly, so we just. We [00:29:00] just let each other know when we're about to go on a trip and we shop their closets and it's so fun and we just give it back when we come back.

So it's not like items that person was ready to get rid of, but everyone's doing that here and that's so sustainable. Yeah. I love that. I think borrowing from friends, borrowing from, family, whoever is a great option. 'cause if you have something that's in, I even, there's this app. Called pickle that I love where I can list pieces from my own closet that like, I want still for when the time comes around, but it's just that it's so gorgeous and fancy.

I'm not gonna wear it every single day. And you can list your own closet and other people can rent it from your area or if there's enough time in advance you can like ship it out and stuff. So I really love it. I don't Are you're currently in Hawaii? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if they, I don't know.

They probably have it like in America. I just dunno how many people are actively on it there. Yeah, but I don't even, I don't think they have it anywhere else internationally. But it's a really fun app for when I have something on a weekend and I'm just like, I want something new.

[00:30:00] And I get it. What you said about like trends like. I think trends are in, every industry. They're not just in the fashion industry, I think it's just how about how you go about incorporating them? And you had said something about like a. I forget what exactly you said. You had said it about doing it in your own way or like finding that happy medium, I think is maybe what you had said.

And I was like, that's honestly how I would see a lot of sustainability is just do what you can, find what works for you, find that happy medium and that's, that's what we need. That's, if that's all you can do, that's I'm always encouraging people to just like. Just try.

Try something new. Try something interesting. Clothing swaps are so fun. I, my favorite thing is I someone complimented my outfit yesterday and I like went down the whole list and I was like, thanks. This blazer is from this random antique mall in Florida. These pants are from a clothing swap.

These shoes are from eBay. This bag is from Goodwill. And I was just like all the different things that like, I just. [00:31:00] Listed. I guess a bunch of them were just like a thrift store, but still, like they're all fall under the sustainable category. But they all came from different places and I think that's always the really cool thing is when I can tell a story with my pieces and then be like, and it's sustainable and you should check out eBay too.

So I love. Yeah, that's me. Yeah. It's always sad to them. They're like, oh, I can't just go buy that. But I'm like, I know. I know. I feel like gatekeeper, where I'm like, thanks, it's Thrifted. But I'm like, I'll give you the tag, or I'll tell you what I looked up like. I'm sorry. Yeah. Meanwhile, I'm hiding the tag.

I'm like, no, you can't see what brand it is. No, you're not gonna go buy it from this brand. I know. Literally, I'm like, unfortunately, it's from. It's like 'cause Oh God, yeah. I'm like old Forever 21. I remember Old Forever 21. The quality of the clothing used to be so good. At least so much better than obviously it's now.

Yeah. And so there are like a lot of pieces that I'll find on eBay that I [00:32:00] don't even think I like realized. I didn't really look at the tag. I just was like, oh, I really liked it and I bought it. And then I'll, it'll come and it'll be forever 21 and I'm like, oh, dang it. But then people will compliment it and I'm like.

Thanks. I got it off eBay. It is for 21, but here's what I looked up on eBay and that's how you should go about doing it. I love that. You know what you've seen across the direct, from what you've seen across the directory, are there any like shifts happening in the F fashion industry that genuinely give you hope right now?

Yes. Just the fact that more and more brands are popping up. And. I would call myself a very chill environmentalist because I like to just be positively minded. And notice the wins not just the losses or else you're just probably gonna get burnt out or, I don't know. We all have different personalities, but I think it's such a win that even greenwashing is happening.

It's horrible, but the fact that. Brands are having to [00:33:00] pretend to be sustainable shows that's what the people are asking. And that was not the case a while ago. No one was asking for it. And so now brands are pretending to be, and with social media and more online people calling each other out.

Brands eventually won't be able to pretend they'll have to actually be sustainable and whether the heart of the CEO cares or not, I'm seeing that as a win. If the corporations are changing, that's huge. I love the small brands, but if we can win over, force the corporations to change.

Think about how much more pollution that's gonna prevent and yada, how many more jobs that's gonna create overseas or here locally if we demand more USA made or locally made. Yeah. So it's all just honestly really exciting. I'm sure I could see it in a negative way of but seems like consumption is on the rise.

That's not [00:34:00] really slowing down, but. The conversation of slowing down and over consumption is also on the rise. Yeah. So I'm hoping that wins over. And just on that note, I think it's important to keep a positive mindset. 'cause if you don't think you're making a difference, then you're not even gonna try.

And I can just tell you all that it's making a difference. Like we are talking about it, we're demanding it, we're boycotting. Unethical unsustainable fashion and brands are having to change and all the new small brands are starting up. So it's definitely a huge movement right now, and I'm frothing.

I love how you see that's such a good point of greenwashing. It sucks. Like I'm not a fan of it, but I do. That's so that's truly a great way of looking at it where it's like at least they're feeling the pressure, like they feel like they need to, that just would not have happened. And I love that mindset and I really think going into sustainability and in just in general working in the environment.

It's good to have that mindset. [00:35:00] 'cause a lot of things can be a little dark and scary. Yeah. But when we keep a positive outlook it keeps us driven and keeps us going. So I really love that. I'm like, it's a terrible thing, but a good way of looking at a terrible thing. As we wrap up, I always love to have my podcast.

I think we've gone over a few, but what are some of your top rapid fire tips for someone who's starting their journey to a more sustainable lifestyle? Ooh. Do you mean like in lifestyle or does it have to be about clothes? Just anything. It can be anything. Life, clothes, whatever you prefer. I actually just had this thought pop up in my head when we're just talking, is thinking small and thinking local is going to make a global difference.

I think we can see the global problems. It feels heavy and sad. It's, it is sad, but if we all, like everyone on this planet just thought small, like how do I positively impact the environment in my town, in the farm that's nearby? Just if we all did that, then the whole planet [00:36:00] would be covered. Don't let the big global news get you down.

Think local. My rapid fire tips would probably all be like on an emotional level because it really is a mindset thing. But if we're thinking practical, darn, you said rapid fire. And I'm like it doesn't even, you can just give us tips. No. Bring your bring your reusables.

That makes a big difference for your health, not just for the planet. So you're not eating out of plastic all the time. And. Actually, yeah. My practical tip is have your bag. Maybe keep it in your car if you're like a small purse, girly, keep stuff in your car, have your reusables ready and snacks and things.

So you don't have to like always be ordering takeout, be prepared in a planner for your day. Have your reasonable coffee cup ready. And then also just strive to be an under consumer. Don't just follow the trends. But [00:37:00] just buy less. You're gonna help your health, your wallet, the planet, everything.

It's such a win. And every item you own takes your time. And we're all complaining we don't have enough time. Yeah. So whether it's another clothing item or something on your shelf, it all gathers dust. You're gonna have to clean it. All breaks that you're gonna have to repair, like everything you own takes away from your time and just.

A simple, minimalist lifestyle gives you that time to be outdoors more with your friends and just mentally healthy. So thinker, consumption, minimalism and it's of course totally okay to shop fun things still, but. Secondhand is the way. Yes, there's some rapid fire tips I love. Those are all so perfect.

I love it. And where can people find you on social media or check out your website. That so they can start their journey. So the [00:38:00] website is called World Changer Co. So world changer co.com. Don't forget the co. The CO and my Instagram used to be called that, but a few years ago, I switched it to sustainably underscore Rosalie.

My name is Rosalie and I think people wanted to see the face behind the website. Now it's like giving influencer, but it's really just all about sustainability. It's all about how to live a more low waste lifestyle. And then all about promoting the new brands on my site and product testing and brands try ons halls that are all sustainable.

So check out there. And it's the same handle on TikTok and YouTube. Amazing. Thank you so much everyone. Go check that out. And yeah, thank you for coming on and chatting with me. Your work is amazing and I hope everyone uses it as a amazing resource to, to shop. The more accessible we can make it, the better.

So thank you for all you do. Thanks for your support.

That's it for this week's episode of the Lexi Show Fashion.

That gives a damn big thanks to Rosalie Robert Snyder for showing us ethical shopping doesn't have to be complicated, whether it's fashion [00:39:00] or everyday products. This is how sustainability should work. If this conversation resonated with you, subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Leave a review and share this with someone who needs to hear it.

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