Get Out of Your Head with Donna Renay Patrick

“Is there something holding you back from what you really want, and you just can’t get any further? Donna was there but she’s not anymore. This woman, as a young girl, grew up in the church with an excellent foundation. And after her parents divorced, she found inner strength. She followed her passion, and she now lives with no regrets. But she did, at one point, hit a wall. Come and listen to her full story and find out what that wall was and how she rose above it. This is Donna Renay Patrick another strong, grateful, and successful F50Woman.”

We Talk About…

• Lessons from corporate America
• Transferable skills
• Worship and praise
• “The blessing list”
• The “Unperfect Seven”

Quotes She Served Up:

• “If your dream doesn’t scare you, it’s not big enough”
• “Nothing amazing happens in your comfort zone”
• “Stop thinking about what you haven’t done and focus on what you have accomplished”
• “Telling your story is going to help somebody”

Question for You: Who are you becoming?

What Changed Everything: Recognizing the self-limiting beliefs that were hold her back

Advice for Her Younger Self: Do it Scared. Whenever you see mediocrity go the other way.

Book Mentioned: “Becoming” by Michelle Obama

Recommended Book: No More Unclaimed Promises

Must Do Every Day: Praying

Contact Information: 

• Website/Radio Show: https://donnarenaypatrick.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-renay-patrick-m-a-b9746a29/
• Email: donnarenaypatric@gmail.com
• Instagram: @donnarpatrick
• Facebook Group: Infusion Worshipers Global

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Transcript

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Julia Jack: hey hey women, we are here today with Donna renee Patrick and she is serious about about walking in her unique purpose and helping others to do the same.

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Julia Jack: she's an award winning author she's a musician she's a director she's a certified instructor.

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Julia Jack: A radio host and a worship LEADER I mean, and I know that all of those incredible things she's doing there is a thread that ties them all together that makes it even more amazing she's going to talk about that, so thank you so much Donna, for being here.

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Donna R. Patrick: I appreciate you having me today Julia Thank you.

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Julia Jack: So we want to get to know you we want to get to know you at the beginning, so we're just first going to start off and learn about who you were as a younger woman, what did you want to be what will you like.

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Donna R. Patrick: that's a very interesting question and I will just get into it, you know i've always been if my mother, where he or she were telling you i've always had what she called a headstrong of my own.

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Donna R. Patrick: Okay, in other words, I was going through it myself but i've always had a strong nature, I always have I grew up in decatur Illinois I grew up in church and you know.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know who, who was as a young woman, I was headstrong our determine um I knew what I wanted to do I knew I wanted to go, I had an excellent foundation excellent foundation at home in the church and you know when my dad.

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Donna R. Patrick: When my mom and dad split up when they divorce out about maybe second grade when that happened.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know, and it affected me differently it affected me differently than it did my sisters, but I think some of that inner strength Julia started there because.

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Donna R. Patrick: The divorce, I want it to be strong, for my mom so a lot of I was little I didn't really understand what was going on, but I knew I wanted to be there for my mom.

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Donna R. Patrick: I wanted to be strong, for her, and so I think that's where a lot of that inner strength came from even way back then, you know and and it was and I took that into adulthood after that into adulthood, and sometimes being a strong being a strong black woman is sometimes it works for you.

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Donna R. Patrick: yeah it works against you and so i've seen that i've seen that on both ends i've seen it on both dance.

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Donna R. Patrick: But.

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Donna R. Patrick: Other questions don't want to be when I was younger.

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Donna R. Patrick: When I went to high school, I went all through high school, I wanted to go to law school, I wanted to be a lawyer, I had no plan B that was it there was no alternative plan.

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Donna R. Patrick: I went through high school to be a lawyer i've got after college I finished and I started applying the law school well, the first time around, I didn't get in.

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Donna R. Patrick: I said okay Okay, no worries i'll try again, so I wait a year I changed up some things I nailed down my list of schools, I called up some friends of mine who were lawyers and got wisdom from them.

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Donna R. Patrick: and also to the prep course for the lsat to improve my chances right, I do all that well I apply again to law school.

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Donna R. Patrick: Again i'm turned down I said okay now what now okay so apparently go to school.

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Donna R. Patrick: I don't.

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Donna R. Patrick: know I love the legal profession, I just loved it I loved it that was no place else I wanted to be.

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Julia Jack: Really okay.

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Donna R. Patrick: Even in the law school, I went to parent legal school and that's what I did in corporate America for well over 20 years and I learned so much I learned so much, but I didn't realize what God was doing even back then.

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Donna R. Patrick: i'm taught me how to write it, you know, being in the legal profession, all those years got me to two books.

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Donna R. Patrick: It got me I learned to write I became a contributing writer for different Christian publications I edited my own books, because I knew how based on my time in corporate America.

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Donna R. Patrick: And so those skills just transferred, they just transferred but, but I just you know I love corporate America does not want to be.

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Julia Jack: Nice it's rare I don't know if it's rare well let's just say because i'm not a statistician and I don't know for sure, but it feels rare that somebody find something they love so much and still.

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Julia Jack: talks about transferable skills, usually you think about that, when i'm done with what i'm doing and I want to transfer and do something else.

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Julia Jack: So did you look for these other things to transfer the skills to, or is it because you're looking back now you're like look at that.

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Donna R. Patrick: Now i'm looking back look at that Okay, because I didn't I didn't realize all the things I was learning I edited my own books Julia because I learned how to do that.

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Donna R. Patrick: In the legal profession writing for lawyers drafting motions and writing correspondence and assisting with a pellet briefs and things I knew how to edit I knew how to edit for context, and so I thought I have no idea i'm looking back now man yeah okay.

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Julia Jack: yeah that's what God sets you up for right you didn't even know it was coming.

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Donna R. Patrick: Absolutely.

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Julia Jack: yeah so any any regrets or for not becoming a lawyer going to law school that I don't really know the details of the difference, but are there any regrets, are you thinking, this was the best way to go, for me.

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Donna R. Patrick: No regrets really no regrets really and i'll tell you why, even as a paralegal working with lawyers, I did the work I just.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know I mean as a paralegal you do the work they make the long checks, but you do the work.

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Donna R. Patrick: Right, and so I met so many great people i've got some great experience in writing and editing and proofreading you know, based on what I learned I don't really have any regrets, I really can't say, but I do because I learned so much in the process.

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Donna R. Patrick: along the way.

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Julia Jack: Now, do you think it's because of your relationship with God because of your faith that you don't have regrets how much does that play into just being able to see the blessing of everything you've gone through.

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Donna R. Patrick: everything it has everything to it plays into everything, because when you understand in your relationship with the Lord when you understand that.

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Donna R. Patrick: He is guiding your steps, when you understand, even when they're not the steps that you originally planned god's way it's always a better way.

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Donna R. Patrick: And so it could be, I don't know why I didn't I know they told me why didn't get in but, but you know, there was something higher to that that there was more going on.

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Donna R. Patrick: than that, and I believe you know my relationship with the Lord had everything to do with that because he was ordering my steps and he placed me where he wanted me to be.

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Donna R. Patrick: yeah i'm still in the law office, I was still there i'm still in the law office, I was still where I wanted to be I just wasn't functioning in the capacity that I had planned to function.

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Donna R. Patrick: yep provided the blessing along the way.

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Julia Jack: yeah do you feel like you did you always have that you talked about being a young girl, and your parents were.

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Julia Jack: In the church and you always had that Christian foundation, but did you always have that kind of faith in that kind of humility or submission, if you will, to the plan to the bigger plan.

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Donna R. Patrick: No, no.

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Donna R. Patrick: Because I want to do what I wanted to do.

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Julia Jack: All right.

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Donna R. Patrick: I wasn't in God.

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Donna R. Patrick: 20 then.

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Donna R. Patrick: As I was 20 years later.

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Donna R. Patrick: And even now so so no, it was a process able to pass that believe me to come to that humility to come to that trust to come to that, knowing God you've got the better plan you know what's going on here I don't know that was a process, I can tell you that.

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Julia Jack: yeah okay.

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Julia Jack: So jumping i'm gonna jump some of the questions, because this is a perfect time to ask you so from your perspective now looking back on your younger self, what is the one thing you would have told her you would tell her.

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Donna R. Patrick: I love that question.

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Donna R. Patrick: I love that question, I will tell my younger self do it scare.

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Julia Jack: Nice.

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Donna R. Patrick: Do it.

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Julia Jack: yeah.

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Donna R. Patrick: I mean if your dream doesn't scare us not big enough.

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Donna R. Patrick: yourself do it scare, and I also tell her dodge whenever you see mediocrity you go the other way.

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Julia Jack: Okay.

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Donna R. Patrick: go the other way.

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Donna R. Patrick: Okay, whenever you see mediocrity whenever you see, I want to stay in my comfort zone, no you don't.

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Donna R. Patrick: Because nothing great nothing amazing happens in your comfort zone you got to get out of your comfort zone, you have to do what makes you uncomfortable to get where you're trying to go that's what i'll tell her.

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Julia Jack: Yes, a message I think a lot of.

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Julia Jack: for less than forgive me for any millennials who are listening to this podcast, but I think that message needs to get out there, because things seem so easy, the Internet, you know fast money and cars and everybody thinks that they get there just overnight.

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Donna R. Patrick: I know right and and see do you have Michelle obama's book becoming.

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Donna R. Patrick: Yes, isn't an excellent book.

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Donna R. Patrick: Yes, you know, Michelle takes us through our childhood on through being married to a two term President and she tells us who she became in the process and that's something we miss Jill did we miss that.

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Donna R. Patrick: As you mentioned, we want the cars, the houses, we bought the stuff but in all of that, who are you becoming.

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Donna R. Patrick: Are you becoming someone who is materialistic or are you becoming someone who is more humble and more strong, are you becoming someone who who stops to consider your decisions before you make them.

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Donna R. Patrick: yeah it's who are you becoming in the process that's the question.

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Julia Jack: That is the question, or else what's the point.

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Donna R. Patrick: yeah I agree.

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Donna R. Patrick: I agree, I had to learn that I had to learn that i'm still learning that.

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Donna R. Patrick: Who are you becoming even though we go through difficult days, even though we go through what what are some really painful times the question to ask ourselves is who am I becoming.

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Donna R. Patrick: Yes, am I becoming better.

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Donna R. Patrick: Am I becoming angry or resentful or am I becoming more trustful in my becoming a better person.

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Donna R. Patrick: Because of what I went through.

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Julia Jack: That is the question, yes, and I hope everybody here, that is the question, who are you becoming.

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Donna R. Patrick: Who are you becoming.

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Julia Jack: So on that note, please tell us about you now tell us about what you do we heard about all the amazing things you're doing it just a little snippets but tell us about you.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know what right now i'm doing a lot of writing now.

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Donna R. Patrick: I do my writing for other people I do some editing and a lot of editing work.

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Donna R. Patrick: Because I really enjoyed that I really enjoy editing I enjoy it I enjoy reading and so being a great communicator both on paper and verbally, I really enjoy helping other people look good on paper.

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Donna R. Patrick: As well as a lot of writing, I will not have anything work.

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Donna R. Patrick: i'm on staff at my church as a musician so I spent a lot of time at my piano prepare for rehearsal and things like that you know but and i'm getting ready for my radio show to start back up on Monday matter of fact, the 20th.

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Julia Jack: Okay, tell us about that tell us about your radio show.

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Donna R. Patrick: Well, you know what I started radio and and to get my background is not in communications it's not in journalism.

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Donna R. Patrick: But back in 2016 I went to radio station and they took a chance on me and I stayed there for four years, and I just loved it, and so, once the pandemic hit I left and I started doing my show from home.

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Donna R. Patrick: But i'm returning to the station, a better person my show will be different this time it'll still be all about what we need to know about praise and worship it'll still be.

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Donna R. Patrick: About worship, being a lifestyle it'll still be about that, but i'm also in a global position to showcase other businesses authors recording artists i'm in a great position to help them get their message out there, so i'm excited about that.

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Julia Jack: Nice, so what made you go to the radio station was this just did it just happen well you yeah tell us about how that happened.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know yeah it kind of just happened and.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know what I was laid off from corporate America my mother was ill at the time, and after my mother went to be with the Lord well i'm looking for another position, and so I said, you know radio might be fun, so I checked out this radio station and.

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Donna R. Patrick: That was that.

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Julia Jack: There you go.

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Donna R. Patrick: So there was no plans, there was no it just happened it really did.

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Julia Jack: Well okay well i'm going to put that link in the show notes so everybody can get to that radio station and listen to you when you start on Monday that's incredible and what kind of things you talk about praise and worship, what is your.

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Julia Jack: biggest message or overarching message, what is the one thing you want people to know.

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Donna R. Patrick: The one thing my soul is all about making worship, a lifestyle my passion is.

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Julia Jack: that's my word for next year worship that's the word i'm going to focus on for next year, what talk about it let's hear it.

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Donna R. Patrick: See, God knows how to do it, God knows who to put together to show that wasn't leader, so my passion is helping people understand why worship is not just on Sunday morning.

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Julia Jack: yeah.

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Donna R. Patrick: it's a Sunday morning activity worship is a lifestyle Monday through Sunday it's a lifestyle because God is worthy of our worship every day.

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Donna R. Patrick: he's not just worth worthy on Sunday.

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Donna R. Patrick: And so, and I talked about on the show how your worship and your purpose are connected we're going to talk about how worship and your leadership.

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Donna R. Patrick: are connected and so i'm going to broaden my message i'm going to impart my message this time to really let people know you're worshiping your purpose are connected.

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Donna R. Patrick: Your worship and your leadership, are connected, whether you are a leader in your home in your business on your job if you're a manager, whatever that your leadership position might be, once it is tied to that and so we're gonna we're gonna deal with that on myself this time around.

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Donna R. Patrick: i'm having a phone I love praise and worship are my passions i'm called to this i'm called to be a worship leader and I just love it.

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Donna R. Patrick: I love it and the thing is God let this fire under me for worship ministry years many, many years ago and the fire yet bones the bones and he's commissioned me to teach others why worship is a lifestyle and it's not just something we do on Sunday.

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Julia Jack: So, give us a couple of practical or one practical worship in everyday life worshipping at work worshiping your leadership, what does that look like so in a meeting I just break out in song at the beginning or.

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Julia Jack: yeah what is that you know, because people are listening and they're like what does that mean.

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Donna R. Patrick: Absolute.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know, once it as a lifestyle means that you recognize God as owner, as Lord you recognize him as the Creator of all things.

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Donna R. Patrick: Including you.

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Donna R. Patrick: And the things that you enjoy God gave you the life that you have the money, you have a family, you have the job, the business, whatever it is that gives you life God is responsible for that that's what my style worship looks like.

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Julia Jack: Okay, so it's a lot inside internal a lot that goes on inside all the time you're just always recognizing.

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Julia Jack: I just got to promote this promotion Thank you God.

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Donna R. Patrick: Absolutely if worship is a response to get to what's already going on here okay yeah I see that's why people want to join the praise team, because they know how to sing no.

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Donna R. Patrick: No utah on the praise team, because you are already a worshiper and you want to help other people go where he's been.

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Donna R. Patrick: that's why he's on the pricing.

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Donna R. Patrick: Nice, I could talk all day about that.

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Julia Jack: I love it, I want to hear more, because that is definitely my goal next year.

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Julia Jack: Is worship and I have i'm doing that trying to figure out what that means, so this is great.

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Julia Jack: So tell me tell us what along that path from the young woman, you were to where you are now, what is your biggest life lesson, or what made everything switch for you what turn the light on.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know what I love you some great questions and I love that one.

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Donna R. Patrick: I love that one um what my biggest turnaround for me Julia was recognizing the things that are holding me back.

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Donna R. Patrick: Okay, there were some self limiting beliefs.

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Donna R. Patrick: Self doubt.

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Donna R. Patrick: Bullying myself being so hard on myself um you didn't do this, you didn't do that good What about what she did accomplish you know my my turn around to do was stop thinking about what you haven't done and start focusing on what you have accomplished.

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Donna R. Patrick: focus on what you have accomplished focus more on that.

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Donna R. Patrick: What you.

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accomplish.

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Donna R. Patrick: When we sit down as women.

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Julia Jack: hold on one second I think your voice went low for some reason.

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Julia Jack: Did you hit them.

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Julia Jack: yeah try that and see.

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Julia Jack: Get back.

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Donna R. Patrick: gotcha okay.

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Donna R. Patrick: There we go, you know in school and our kids schools, you will never hear about bullying.

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Donna R. Patrick: Look, look at your blessings look at what I have allowed me to do look at what you've gotten done stop focusing on what you have it done yeah stop doing that to yourself, you stop doing that to yourself, and I think as women when we really sit down and make a list of our blessings.

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Julia Jack: gotten and why did that come about were you praying and it was like a revelation or you know I don't know did somebody say something to you that triggered Why am I telling myself that how did that happen.

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Donna R. Patrick: So in my talk with myself God revealed to me what the problem really was, and it was all in here.

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Donna R. Patrick: Great great question Julia I had many mentors had many growing up and even into adulthood, I still have them now some different ones, but.

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Julia Jack: Help us to understand for the new mothers and the older mothers and grandmothers help us to understand what that looks like to be a mom like that that paves the way give us a little insight what was that, like What was it what she said or didn't say yeah.

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Donna R. Patrick: But but it's what my mom did say you know she raised us to go and grow up go to school, get a degree go to work and then.

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Donna R. Patrick: What to do that, you know but, but as I got older, as I got older, the business ownership bug bit me, and so I was I wasn't happy anymore, and I knew, even in corporate America I knew God had more.

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Donna R. Patrick: mm hmm that's what that was yeah I was in my comfort zone, and so I didn't have the courage at that time to go for it, so it took them years it took some years for me to get there and and not be afraid to get out there, get comfortable I call it getting comfortable with the uncomfortable.

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Donna R. Patrick: It was what my mother did say she told me, you can do it, she said prayer you keep God first at all times, even now to get out remember every every time I play my piano and I play all the time because that's what I do.

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Julia Jack: So what's next for you.

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Donna R. Patrick: Well, as I mentioned, I am going to restart my radio show on Monday i'm really excited about that.

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Donna R. Patrick: i'm real excited about that, I have another book that I co authored that just came out i'm not sure if you saw that on Facebook or not, but it's called no more unclaimed promises.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know, whatever you know my first two books written about praise and worship bring it bring it letting you know you still have a region, the praise God, you know, but these these four that are co written i'm a little a little little pieces of yourself come out.

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Donna R. Patrick: I agree, and and i've been to so many networking things where the facilitator said I make this much money, and I can go on nine vacations a year and I can do this and that's all well and good that's great.

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Donna R. Patrick: You don't when you're going through a rough time you don't always feel like praising and worshiping God i'll be the first one to tell you that yeah it don't always feel like it, but he said, let everything that has breath.

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Donna R. Patrick: to break no it's not i'm not gonna sit here and tell you that and praise and worship are both passions, for me, but i'm not gonna tell you that it's easy all the time because it's not it's not.

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Donna R. Patrick: Yes, meet me in the valley okay it's called meet me in the valley by Kathy green.

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Donna R. Patrick: It is an excellent book and all of us have valley experiences we all do, from time to time.

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Donna R. Patrick: But Kathy Kathy helps you navigate the valley she helps you navigate your in the valley, what are you doing while you're there are you complaining, are you griping are you snap mcbriar.

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Donna R. Patrick: Another excellent one, is no more unclaimed promises.

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Donna R. Patrick: No more acclaimed classes and the visionary author is Dr renee Kelly Williams.

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Donna R. Patrick: Okay he's the visionary author, it is an anthology of several women and we're helping other women to understand god's promises on your life that he's giving you.

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Donna R. Patrick: But we gotta claim them it's easy it's easy to forget what God has promised to us because we're looking around at what we see with these eyes, but God god's promises are still true, and we can all claim them for ourselves.

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Julia Jack: Even as i'm thinking about it i'm like What did he promise me.

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Donna R. Patrick: In his word for us, but we have to get the climb them because we're so busy you know.

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Donna R. Patrick: Go on, after our dream or we're trying to make our vision reality and and we should be doing those things, but sometimes sometimes it gets hard and when it gets hard, we have to remember what God has promised us in his word.

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Julia Jack: Yes, yes.

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Julia Jack: So Donna, what else would you like to share with us from your playbook what is say what is one thing that you can't miss doing every day let's go there.

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Julia Jack: hi okay.

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Julia Jack: Great okay.

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Donna R. Patrick: I cannot not do that, I can't not do that remember when we were talking earlier about what worship looks like on a day to day basis yeah that's part of it.

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Donna R. Patrick: that's part of it, starting my day with prayer asking God thanking him for the day first and asking them, what do you want me to do today, God what's God, you know what's on my agenda.

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Donna R. Patrick: You know it's on my agenda but what's on your agenda today so prayer prayer so just one of the things that I cannot, I can go without okay.

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Julia Jack: Nice now tell us about your prayer time if you want to share do you are you a quiet prayer prayer or do you like, to be loud.

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Julia Jack: Do you meditate a lot in silence, does the silence kind of connect you with God better.

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Julia Jack: And maybe just tell us about the possibilities of different ways, you can pray because I know if people are different, just like connecting with you and me connecting with God may be different for other people yeah.

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Donna R. Patrick: It is, it is, it is, I would agree with that we all connect with God and different ways.

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Donna R. Patrick: We all have different relationships with them all of us are not on the same spiritual level, but you asked me about my prayer life, all of the above all the above Sometimes I get loud depending on what's going on.

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Donna R. Patrick: Okay, sometimes I whisper a prayer now i'm in walmart and the line is really, really, really long.

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Donna R. Patrick: mm hmm i'm saying Lord, please let this.

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Donna R. Patrick: way if i'm on the freeway sitting in traffic.

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Donna R. Patrick: And i'm like getting somewhere i'm gonna be like Lord please let's move this traffic away.

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Donna R. Patrick: Sometimes loudly sometimes I whisper a prayer but meditation all the time and meditation is a part of me being that part of my relationship with him and what do I meditate on I meditate on my favorite scriptures.

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Donna R. Patrick: Nice I meditate on, for I think one that we all probably know psalm 23 yeah the Lord is my shepherd and there's so much in that song I know we're excited over our dinner over a meal.

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Donna R. Patrick: We may see it in Easter speeches or Christmas speeches you know we there that growing up, but there's so much in the Lord really is my shepherd and shepherds don't leave the sheep yeah but i'll leave the sheet.

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Donna R. Patrick: Ever called tech the sheep yeah.

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Donna R. Patrick: And so I meditate on that that's one of my favorite ones I have many, but I meditate on that when I meditate on Isaiah chapter 45 where God says fear not.

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Donna R. Patrick: Fear not i'm with you yeah you walk through the water you're not gonna drown when you walk through the fire you're not going to be born i'm with you.

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Donna R. Patrick: that's the source of my meditation I meditate on his word and I see it, on that I feed on it.

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Donna R. Patrick: I feed on that is especially when when times are difficult.

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Julia Jack: yeah and imagine if we could actually believe that.

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Julia Jack: That he's with us and we can't drown and we won't burn yes totally believe it.

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Donna R. Patrick: We have to.

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Donna R. Patrick: yeah that's a promise promise God said i'm with you, he said fear not, I am with you that's a promise that's a promise he said when you walk through the fire you won't be burn I got you when you walk through the raging river you won't drown you won't drown that's the promise yeah.

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Julia Jack: I love that you put it that way that it's a promise, because you think you know God said that, and now I have to try to figure out how to how to be that whatever he pronounced, but he promised.

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Julia Jack: yeah.

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Julia Jack: Nothing you really need to do.

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Donna R. Patrick: Absolutely it's a promise and they apply to you to me to all of us listening here this morning, this afternoon, it applies to all of us god's promises are for all of us we just have to lay hold on just lay hold on.

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Julia Jack: And not doubt yes.

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Donna R. Patrick: And not now, not now.

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Julia Jack: that's incredible stuff I am looking forward to your radio show, especially this year, because this is going to be a year of worship and praise for.

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Julia Jack: The song looking forward to figuring out how to do that better or how to do it period.

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Donna R. Patrick: Well, you know I can help me with that I can help you with that we don't have to wait for the radio show you know how to get home to me if you have questions if something you need it's a passion for me.

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Julia Jack: This is a.

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Donna R. Patrick: passion for me I love I love teaching people what that looks like what worship looks like in everyday life, so you know how to get hold to me.

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Julia Jack: As.

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Donna R. Patrick: You have i'd be happy to sit down with you, we can visit.

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Julia Jack: that's awesome okay I don't even know if I know what question to ask, I might just call you and say.

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Julia Jack: What do I do first.

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Donna R. Patrick: Right.

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Donna R. Patrick: Right that's.

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Julia Jack: Nice so tell us how the audience can get in touch with you, after this podcast is over, give us all your connections and websites and all of that night, they will be in the show notes, so you can click on them, but also tell those who want to hear it.

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Donna R. Patrick: Okay okay my website my website is Donna renee Patrick calm and renee is spelled R E in a while.

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Donna R. Patrick: And there you'll learn more about my ministry you'll learn more about podcasts i've been on your mind more about my show you'll learn more about myself what it's about and there's going to be copies of my show on the website.

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Julia Jack: Oh perfect.

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Donna R. Patrick: yeah so once i've done a show they're going to automatically plug it into my website.

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Donna R. Patrick: Beautiful.

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Julia Jack: We can go straight there and get all of it yeah yeah.

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Donna R. Patrick: You get all that my books are there you learn more about me you learn more about my ministry and what I do so yeah go to my website and then you can email me, you can email me at Dr renee patrick@gmail.com.

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Donna R. Patrick: Okay, on Facebook my my social handles the same across all my networks on Facebook is Donna renee Patrick ma on linkedin is Donna are Patrick ma and i'm also on instagram so Donna, our metric.

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Julia Jack: Thank you and thank you.

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Donna R. Patrick: reach out I would love to hear from any of your listeners i'd be happy to do that, I also have a Facebook group Julia called infusion worshipers global.

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Donna R. Patrick: it's a Facebook group and it's all about encouraging training and developing worship leaders it's all about that.

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Donna R. Patrick: Okay, so if we're on Facebook reach out and i'll be happy to invite you to the group and you come on here because I think that helped a lot going into 2022 it was your focus being part of this Facebook group is really gonna help it's gonna help clarify.

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Julia Jack: something nice give me that Facebook group name again.

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Donna R. Patrick: infusion in.

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Donna R. Patrick: Global.

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Donna R. Patrick: Okay, and I say infusion because remember earlier in the podcast I was talking about how worship and your purpose are connected yeah whatever you use infuse something you're adding to it.

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Donna R. Patrick: you're adding to it, yes, and so was it been purpose worship and leadership we're infusing worship into your leadership, a fusing worship into your purpose.

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Donna R. Patrick: So that's why I call it an infusion worshipers.

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Julia Jack: Global beautiful i'm in right after this podcast i'm doing it.

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Donna R. Patrick: sounds good.

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Julia Jack: So thank you Donna so much for being with us, thank you for sharing your life and.

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Julia Jack: Your wisdom and your worship.

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Donna R. Patrick: So yeah, thank you for having me on I appreciate you so much, thank you.