Interview with Natalia Ferreira, Conference Interpreter, new secretary of AIIC.
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Speaker 2:3:30Hello everyone and welcome again to another edition of subject to interpretation, our podcast where we share with all of our listeners and the stories and the comments and the good information provided to us by many of our distinguished guests. And today I'm very proud and happy and honored to have another very distinguished guest that we were batting a thousand as far as I know, uh, on guests and today we have not valued for Ada and for Ada is a regional director for Aiq USA
Speaker 3:4:04and a, I will let her tell us who she is. A welcome that Talia, how are you doing? Thank you so much for this great opportunity to speak to your audience. Uh, it's, it's a privilege and an honor for me and as a matter of fact, I'm the regional secretary. We have A. Yeah, we have a chairman. We have a precedent which is saying United States, the United Nations actually staffing trumpeter myself as the regional secretary. We have fled off who was our webmaster based in San Francisco, private and interpreter. And we have an sank who he is, our treasury and also basing basing state. Actually, so the way in we are the regional bureau. Uh, I was recently elected, was launched that I was elected as regional secretary. I am taking disposition is of course it's a voluntary position. I'm taking this very seriously. I'm really happy what, and I want to reach out to as many conscious and interpreters as I can to explain exactly where we are.
Speaker 3:5:18We are watch, we'll do a how to become a member and also trying to dismiss defy this idea that I eat. It's a very, it's a club. No, no, we are not. We are professional association which was founded more than 65 years ago was a matter of fact wasn't 1953 right after the trial. And I want you to talk to you all about that, but I really would like to start by asking you how did you become an interpreter? I think it's very important as you probably know, many of us come from many of life and every time I asked somebody, hey, you know, when you were a kid, did you want him to be an interpreter? And most of them have told me, no, I want it to be a fireman and astronaut, a ballerina. But a very few of us started this path by thinking we're going to be interpreters when we grow up. Did you have that idea when you were growing up? No, no, not really. As a, I am an attorney. I studied law in Brazil. I'm trying to sell me and I went to school there after that I have to evaluate it. I lived for two years seeing in Europe, in the Netherlands. And then, uh, when I came back I pursue a master's degree in international affairs and to promising that February first into software Brazil, Florianopolis. What's the name of the city? What? I lived for three years. Really Windy. Nice. Had 40 two beach.
Speaker 3:7:00I had a lot of. It's an island. Yeah. It was a wonderful time of my life. Um, so after I graduated, I'm telling you a little bit of my story so I can get to the point of how and when and why I became a marketer. So after I graduate, after I finished that mastery side back wheel and I was hired to work as a legal consultant for a think tank that was recently created by the Coca Cola company that offered a research, pretty much was research and education educational materials and information about solid waste management and recycling for the Moose Appellate Child. Really only no other, um, in other parts of the zoo as well. And so I worked for the think tank and that's how I met my husband. He was the president of the think tank and the first environmental manager of the Coca Cola wrestling in division. That's how I met him.
Speaker 3:8:09And this is important because that's why I moved to the states. So in 1998 he was offered a position at corporate cocacola corporate in Atlanta. So we moved to the US and I, but we have a short assignment and he's a contract was going to be from three to five years. So. And I, at that time I was teaching voluntell law and being real. Then I, my plan was to go back with another degree. So I started studying. I got into the PHD program at Georgia Tech in public policy, um, and then things, you know, life got in the way. It doesn't matter the plans, you may ache, right. Um, and when decided to act was the phd was going to take me a long time and then I had to go back and take some off the classes from the national programming. Things were not going well for Hemoc Coca Cola, uh, we had an opportunity to be replicated and move back to prison or become locals, which means don't be expecting more.
Speaker 3:9:19So I decided, okay, I better finish with something and then a degree that is shorter. So I ended up seeing this. You would another master degree in public policy. We decided to send us a coca cola, gave us a green card. And then anyway, after I graduated from Georgia Tech in 2003, I was looking for a position. We're looking for a job and the reality of the market in Atlanta for international organizations. That kind of thing that I was planning to do this. Were you doing with it? That is now a much more international city, but at that time, almost 15 years ago was completely different and I couldn't travel. I have this kind of limitation because my kids were little and my husband was traveling all over the world, so I started working in a kind of a nonprofit which was very, very interesting in Atlanta and the mission of this nonprofit that was to advocate the American people about international issues and we do that by providing a inducing inhouse books about specific regions of the work.
Speaker 3:10:30I say, well peak Latin American and would hire an expert that would write the book and also with activities for high school teachers and social studies teachers mainly ended with training those teachers. So he was fascinating. It was really was a great opportunity. I didn't make much money but I was so, so happy and I felt really accomplished. I love this. There's some organization get them out to me very well financially and I by chance. One friend at that time asked me if I didn't want to go replace her at a conference at the CDC and I found that because we all have to start and I'm not ashamed to tell my story because we'll have to start with a way or the other. Right. And I went to replace someone, uh, the not even say that this person was a professional interpreter because he left on the second day and never came back.
Speaker 3:11:29I can see there is a loan for one day, you know, this is totally unacceptable. And I got in there and then I realize with myself or what I'm doing here, I can actually do this kind of job because it's very hard. But I could do it when have one of the presenters speaking in Portuguese sable to put it into amherst. And then end of a sudden I was into it. I, you know, I think I, some people they might have a natural talent and I honestly, I think it's my case, but I didn't stop. So that's how I started. And I started with one particular agency in Atlanta. We became friends. I work a lot to them, a universal language solutions, the name of the agency, Giovanna in Cabo, so needs. And um, after that I decided I really love this. It is fascinating.
Speaker 3:12:24It's so interesting. You have this kind of a freedom of my time and I was a very crucial moment in my life when I was trying to decide what I'm gonna do and I've found that career path and it was something unique for me. Special. So I decided that I. So I started searching, researching and I joined a Ta and I found out about a unique, um, and let's set a goal for myself. I said I'm going to become a conscious level interpreter. I went to work for international organizations. I went to work for the State Department. That's what I want to do. Of course I started really in the beginning, I think a lot of medical and community interpreting as well because we have to acquire the experiments and the knowledge and the practice. Um, this is all. I see this as a very solid experience for me.
Speaker 3:13:25And so in 2011 I decided that I needed to, to do some kind of professional development courses. I needed to dress shop and you get to improve. So I went to Cambridge, uh, they, they in Canberra, in the UK, they have a very good and very interesting course of which is called Cambridge interpretation course is CCI seek, I'm not mistaken. And I was there for two weeks. It's been super intense. Extremely intense. Yes. It's almost like an immersion. You were there, you stay in the hotel where the training was going on in called 8:00 to almost 6:00 and working with the interpreters from all over the world. Pretty much very international structures for high lava like NATO. One was a senior director, senior entrepreneur from NATO. Uh, some of them worked, the European Parliament, ECD super in United Nations, of course, State Department as well, very high level. And I absolutely love death experiments.
Speaker 3:14:37Um, so after that, in all of them were Aiq members, uh, I continued working in, working in, doing private conference here and there. And yeah, that's pretty much I got to this stage what I am and I was, I have to say that I was really, really lucky and fortunate to have had the opportunity to work with amazing colleagues from senior level colleagues who were extremely generous and they opened a lot of doors for me because they were able to see that I was dedicated, that I would, that I would always prepare myself, that I would study and that I was competent. I was professional, I would deliver a, at a very, very good, very good level. So, and I say I say that because I'm extremely grateful to. And I mentioned some of them, one of them has passed away a few years ago. Why would you bother? Who's he resend them in other comics from the, from the, from the IMF. I'm still as a federal one. Yeah. So I'm a modernist me, extremely thankful from the comics that were the case in January saying help me through this way. So it resounds with Migos. I think that, uh,
Speaker 2:15:59that has been my experience in, you know, now everything is the community. So the interpreter community, that has been my experience that most of the time you received, people are willing to help you out, to teach you, to take you under their wing. There is no, uh, I'm a city or on the contrary. I mean, the first time I worked at booth, my booth made was so generous because I had never worked with before and he's had to be borrowed and showed me the ropes and told me if you need anything, just push the bed and I'll take over. And it was very, very interesting to see that kind of cooperation in it. When I came to the states, the idea was that everything was very competitive and nobody wanted you to succeed. I didn't find that at all in. And apparently you didn't either in our field. So then all of a sudden now you're, you're learning all these things are. Which of all those things you mentioned that you get certified on first, did you go to the State Department and get a certification there or did you come in and have become an elite member first?
Speaker 3:17:03The first of all, I became a certified court interpreter in the state of Georgia. That was my first goal. Um, and then um, the State Department on our client in, I was past the sending the level access to see the department. They don't have a certification program. We were just a product, just credit, a SM seminar level of administrative interpreter or conference level a few years later after working a lot as a seminarian trumpeter. And I absolutely adored it was projects because you get to travel to visit a lot of places in the West that you would have locked go, you know, existed. Right, exactly, exactly. Like one that I went that I absolutely thought it was fascinating. Jackson hole in Wyoming, you know, I could visit the grand tetons or yellowstone. So he was beautiful and so a few years later and I passed the conference level exam. So I work as a, as, as, as a conference level, as long as the seminar interpreter for the State Department that was spending much like that.
Speaker 3:18:12I enter Aiq in 2013. I worked with wonderful colleagues that were gracious enough to offer, to sign for me and now I have five years, so now I'm in the situation that I can sign for colleagues that you are competent, professional working conditions and everything else. And um, and then as I said last last March, this March, our previous regional secretary, she have to move back to her country, Argentina, because her husband is as a diplomat in moving back to 29. So the position was vacant and I decided to, to apply, you know, we had an election and I, and I want. Um, so that's, that's, that's the nutshell what I am.
Speaker 2:19:09Right. And so then you come, you become a member if I can, I really want us to get into that because I will be honest, I, I been a federally certified interpreter for many years and from the outside looking in, I always heard that, oh my God. No, and very naive. I mean, you have to have all of this friends because they don't want you to be a member and nobody wants you in there. It's an exclusive club and so on. I'm pretty sure that's fine. Just rumors and people that are uninformed about what or why don't you tell us exactly what is. And is it true that nobody can make it a pantry? Some people can make it [inaudible] you make it in, right? You made it.
Speaker 3:19:51A lot of people can add and it's, it's, it's not an exclusive club. Uh, but that's uh, I, I understand and I know that a lot of people have to this, this, this, this, this idea of Aiq does perception, but it's honestly some misconception. It's not true. It is a peer with you association. It is indeed. It's not a like a self proclaimed association that he say I am on a conference trip and there's no way, but in one can attest for that. No, Aiq is different. So it's an association. We have around 3000 professionals from every part of the world. Members of AIQ International Association or conferencing trumpet best. What the acronym stands for, as I said before we eat was founded in 1953 right after dinner. Weinberg trials. And you're worrying San Francisco. So you saw a little bit of the exhibition, a history of all those meetings is, wasn't it is fascinating when you read about all these people and so that's how it started pretty much.
Speaker 3:20:57And I, it, it's around 65 years. That's we are around, um, what do we do? It's an association that tries to promote good training practices through it's best practice recommendations and we have also the list of interpreter scores and we also try to advise people that are interested in becoming an interpreter. One need to know about the profession and we want to tell people that it's not that complicated to become a member, you know, it's um, we can start if you all you need to do, you can start as a pre candidate. If you are an established conference interpreter in, you can again start as a pre candidate. You only have three people that colleagues that will just sign saying, you know, I, I know that so and so works as a conferencing through your work, through your experience, where the job opportunities that you might encounter can be a lucky enough to work with another colleague.
Speaker 3:22:09And if this Collagen realizes and sees that you want to become competent and dedicated in a good, a good candidate for us to be to join our association, I'm sure that colleague will most likely sign for you. So you need, you need three, three colleagues to sign for you and they need to sign for your, any language, the language, it's the language study you are native on. It's your mother tongue, it's the language study you can speak, you know that your race and, and then you have your b language, your body language. It's the language in which you speak fluently in know, like for instance in my case will be English and it can also have c languages. My case, I have Spanish and I have French, which I the language start to interpret from into your, a language for your deep into ea only, uh, only a. yeah. The combination seems to be not recommended. Um, yeah, yeah. But you know, I want us, you're not the best person to give all, just because I'm new as the regional secretary, but you know, I can recommend to, to look into our website where you can have all the information necessary to, to, on how to become an IOC member, but pretty much that's how, that's how it works. That's how you did it. That's how. Exactly. That's how I did it. That's how I did it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:23:47So I wanted to make it clear for everyone because not everybody are talking. I eat, I Guy Iga, Iga, but I know many of our listeners have never heard of it.
Speaker 3:23:55I'll be
Speaker 2:23:56totally honest. I had been interpreting in courts for years and I had never seen
Speaker 3:24:00heard of Aiq until I went to Chicago one time and one of our colleagues, a federally certified interpreter. I'm a more than a yes, yes. I know that it's, it's kind of a very close knit of members. They know each other because he work conferences together all the time. So Morita was the first person to mention to me, I eat and I do know about it. So aiq is not going to give you a certification, you're not going to say I'm a certified Aiq member, you're just a metal free. Correct. Exactly. It's just a member. Yes. It's an association that it's, it's professional competencies, highly recognized. You know, you can have access to a global network of colleagues because as I said, we have 3000 logos all over the world and that we have divided by winches, for instance, United States incident which eats the USA region candidates, another region and then you have go sealed because it's such a big country.
Speaker 3:25:03It's another region. The South America, Chile and Argentina, they are to reach and the rest of, of, of Latin America, South America. It's another region in Central America and Mexico and the Caribbean beach. And so anyway, that's pretty much how it works. And we get together a lot. We had, we had the beginning of January, we have, we had our general assembly, which wasn't Valencia, so we had more, I think more than 1500, 1500, 1500 members attended. Well maybe, maybe a thousand dollars, but you know, a lot of people participating in attendees. It'd be, you know, it's such as this feeling of belonging, you know, we got to a part of a group, you're part of association that's trying to defense your all fossil calls and it's very, it's very fulfilling. That's how I see it. And it's,
Speaker 2:26:06I would assume that members promote each other quite a bit once you're a member, if I can, they tend to, you know, somebody that does Portuguese, you're gonna say, Oh yeah, I know so and so because there are also members of [inaudible].
Speaker 3:26:17Exactly, exactly. But not necessarily because they are members. I also worked with colleagues that are no members, they are very competent, very professional, but unfortunately he never had an opportunity to work with an IOC member, you know, so they can get in. But um, but most of the time that I try to recommend to colleagues because I know, I mean I can vouch for them. Uh, and that's, that's, that's, that's, I think that is the sensed. And that's the reason most people think we are an exclusive club. It's because we're always recommending the ones we work with, that it's not true. We are open and we are honestly in the process of trying to change this perception. That's why asked to our regional meeting. We want to have these kind of reaching out meetings us, you know, to to welcome more members and have this kind of conversation. So how have you going to become a member? What do we know about us? I mean the, the, the working conditions and how we think it's the right way to, to, to, to, to work. You know, why you should accept what you should not accept. But of course it's a free market, right? We have to be very careful with that because I, you cannot set about. We cannot define weights. We don't do that. It's just a professional association and we were trying to defend the best practices for our, for ourselves.
Speaker 2:27:45Right? But what I, what I do tell people about our week is the fact that some years ago I was giving a seminar for judges and one of the judges finally said, but obviously my. I get it now. I understand why people should be certified according to her photos versus just anybody that says they can do it. I understand certification, but I have another problem he told me now I don't speak 72 languages or I don't know if they interpret is that good or not? And I told him precisely sound. Uh, so when a judge, when you go to a dentist, you also, you studied dentistry, you have to trust the fact that some association gives them some kind of credential and because there's no specific credentials for a four conferences in interpreting, there's nothing better than I think because it is kind of that peer review is giving you that confidence. These people have gone through some kind of betting that is pretty rigorous had would assume because it's peered reviewed on, you said, did you have to work with three? I remember.
Speaker 3:28:49Yes. And you have to have 160 days that it takes two days of working conditions set up by a lack of conference, a conference event and things like that. So, um, and again, we don't provide certification is just when drawing. It's, it's, it's, it's almost like was being recognized as a very good and professional trumpeter because you vetted by and prompted by three are also recognize colleagues. So that's how it works. And Ms Dot. I think it's fair. I think it's a very fair system and we um, don't try to exclude anyone. If you are a professional interpreter, use your competent. If you follow the rules, if you want to try. Yes. If you have the opportunity to work with colleagues that can vouch for you, that concern for you, why not join us? We need more volunteers. We need good to hear. And also if you become a member of Ieee, is that a fee to become a member of five week?
Speaker 3:29:58Yes. Yes. Uh, in this, uh, it varies according to each region of the world. Of course he ain't unitus setup by Geneva. It's important to say that because the headquarter, it's based in Geneva in Switzerland, so he ain't the last. It's around why? Because the price comes in Swiss francs. So it's around $600 annually. It's an annual fee of $600 for you to have to pay annual dues that you have to pay. Yeah. Now I'm curious because you know, becoming a member of it seems very important. Interesting thing and it's a good path for conference interpreters, but because it's peer reviewed, is there a possibility for somebody to be asked to leave the. Can you be kicked out of the SOC? I don't pay you get kicked out, but can you shout a few? Yeah, I think that if you don't pay, we send, we send messages, you know, and you can be suspended, suspended because you didn't pay in then you got it to rejoin will have to pay all your earlier slide.
Speaker 3:31:17All the Jews that are, that I do exactly. And uh, but if someone can be, can be expelled in a way I don't. Please don't quote me on that because I'm honestly not the best person to provide this kind of answer. But I think you can, if you're not, if for some reason so Amman denounced as you because you're not following go the rules of procedure of the Aiq routes or something like this. I think it's possible. It is possible and you can challenge. And another thing, for instance, if it's a new candidates drawings association and if you for anyways, and you know that candidate, you know that that person might be a good interpreter that however, professionally and ethically speaking, not a good candidate because you know, because you have worked with him or with her in the past, you can challenge that as an IEP member. They can challenge that, you know, so it's activated because it's a peer with you. The power. It's within the members people you work with that, that sounds very interesting. Now I, I, you know, we're already at the 30 minute mark so I don't want to keep you because I know you have to go study for your conference. But I just wanted to ask you one more thing. So, uh, is gonna hold
Speaker 2:32:40or does a cold any specific trainings for nonmembers and is it training? Does the training for anything other than to have been trained in does not get you closer to membership, correct?
Speaker 3:32:54No, it doesn't give you closer to membership at all as a Santa process to draw to become a member is the one I explained that. Well we have recently created was actually last year we created a, a training committee, so I eat use when we start. We have started this year, so last year to offer trainings. We had had a few trainings with a wonderful conference interpreter that she's based in Brussels to um, how to market yourself, spreading much as a conference interpreter, how to negotiate contracts. We had a main in February of this year. We had another one with you? Yeah, in July in New York. So we are trying to have manners and not at seminar trains and these seminar training. So you're open to the part, to any conference in trumpet that wants to participate. We give a discount for members, but anyone knowing EAC members and she wanted to participate, it's more than welcome and we trying to announced that and disseminate when you're going to have our trainers. On our website, most of the time in all the newsletters as well, and we've seen a communication to, to members. Um, wonderful. Well, I mean anytime you want to send any, uh,
Speaker 2:34:16notification to us, we'll be happy to put her on our website and publish it on our facebook and we do have a few hundred, maybe a thousand photos and that if I or anybody wanted to become a conference interpreter, what's the first thing that you would say? How do you go about it?
Speaker 3:34:36Well, I think you can, you should want to become a conference interpreter if you can apply to anyone to some alternative versus here and seeing us that offer this kind of training as a, as an under grad or even as a graduate student. I think that's the main, the main way of how to become a conference interpreter. Like the Monterey Institute, they have a very well recognized and established undergrad graduate program as well in verse in Maryland as well. So I think that's the main way. Feel young. They leaving just just graduated from college and he decided he want to become a conference in trouble. Walking those international organizations, becoming a United Nations interpreter, that will be the key path for you, I'd say. Alright,
Speaker 2:35:27well thank you very much. I really appreciate your time. I know you have to go, but I one once again, I wanted to thank you for sharing your time and your expertise with us and we went to open our doors to communication with one to, uh, uh, be a bridge, uh, between associations and luminaries and people who are important in the field. So feel free to come visit us anytime you want. Thank you so much. And a senior leader like to thank you for this wonderful opportunity and yes, same, same here with us. We like to continue collaborating together and see how we can improve our profession. Okay, well take care of it over to God though Fau.