Jake & Richard Share their latest HOLISTIC solutions for modern day stress

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Jake and Richards Website
https://usamedicalshop.com/

Tiktok Channel

https://www.tiktok.com/@usamedical

The USAMedical Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/groups/457463312054144

Jake Defines Holistic as something that has multiple benefits to the body.

E.g. Creative (supplement) vs Magnesium (holistic)

Here’s the Oxford Definition of Holistic

Characterized by the treatment of the whole person, taking into account mental and social factors, rather than just the symptoms of an illness.

Sleep hygiene is a big part of what inspires Jake.  Start with a particular hour range to go to bed each night.

Shout out to Tim Ferris who boldly declares his stance on limiting social media.

Jake’s approach to balance is to practice the ‘freedom’ to walk away from business when he feels the need to.  E.g. dropping what he’s doing to go to the gym.  

CBG Oil:  Comes from young Hemp.  It's the precursor to CBD. Jake recommends taking it in the morning.  It seems to me to be similar to the process of colostrum or umbilical stem cells.

CBG, Ashwagandha and Turmeric are the top selling supplements in their site.

Black seed oil is an immune booster.

Shilajit!!  Its a supplement he takes once a month.  Apparently its quite hard to find a legit source of it.  “He has a guy” that gets it for him.

Richard likes Apple Cider Vinegar.  

An Article on Shilajit…

https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a26766609/shilajit/

I review my cold shower routine.

Richard confirmed….  You never get used to getting in cold water.

LOL…. We Talk about the Liver King.  this was just a few weeks before youtube exposed him as a charlatan.   

Jake Recommends the “Nutra Eval Test” for a thorough blood exam.

Jake was a small town bodybuilder until he was injured.  Now he prefers Power Yoga.  

Jake's morning routine:  Walk!  He doesn’t like working out in the am.  

Inositol:  A Supplement to help with stress.  “Improves neural pathways”.  I have heard it is very helpful for people with ptsd.

Jake wanted to know about my teeth.  I can only guess it's because I more or less cut out sugar.  We discuss the addictive properties of sugar.

Ashwagandha: Jake considers this a ‘regulator enabler’

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Transcript

jake and Richard

 [00:00:00] Hi, and thanks for joining chasing energy. I'm your host. Most Daniel Lucas. I'm grateful to be with you today. Thank. Thank you so much for joining me. I've noticed, uh, the podcast groaning in different. Parts of the world, including Romania, shout out. Out to Romania. And I have continued to see reviews. 

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So that I can study up and prepare in a way that serves you best. Today's guest are Jake and Richard from USA medical. They have a tic talk. Channel. It's all. On the show knows their tick talk their face. Facebook page. Uh, and their website or all right here at the very top of the show notes. That I've put together. 

Please feel free to give them. Some love and reach out. I'm going to send them a few clips from. This interview. Uh, we talk about what holistic. Health means, and actually went up and after our interview and looked up the Oxford. Third deck definition. Allistic it pretty much matches. Up to what he was saying. 

I had not heard his definition [00:02:00] before. A lot of talk about CBG. Oil not CBD CBG. And why it's unique, why they carry it on their website and why they consider it to be a bit of a game changer. Uh, ashwagandha and tumor acre and also black seed oil is something. That we carry, uh, Carrie. But we talk about in this podcast. Uh most of those are carried on their website by the way those are freudian slip Uh some stuff about my cold shower routine and there's a Different tests for your blood to find out how your health is doing that he recommends one supplement that i have actually played around with over the last few months that he ended up recommending was an asa tall And i believe they are now carrying it on usa medical I've been using it to help us sleep a little bit better it's supposed to help when you're going through uh i know they've used it with people like P ptsd and whatnot but apparently it's good for your neuropathways. So a lot of talk about [00:03:00] supplements on here obviously no coincidence since they have a supplement website But it's a it's a very free-flowing conversation in fact probably one of the more Uh dynamic guests you can see why they have such a tik tok following because their charisma and character And showmanship comes across in the interview they're very charismatic gentlemen and i feel like they're there on the whole they're definitely trying to do everything they can to help you grow even though it's Um, You know tick talk style content. content that doesn't mean it doesn't have value Um Last but not least when i talk about um how are we staying in shape it is interesting to see how even though i'm a lot older than them how our, our sort of routines have aligned so i hope you enjoy this interview with uh, jake and richard they both had some great information to share i look forward to sending you the first [00:04:00] newsletter very shortly please check out the website i'm so Uh happy with it and thank you for joining chasing energy

Track 1: jake and Richard, welcome to Chasing Energy.

jake: Hey Daniel. Thanks for having us.

richard_: Hello.

Track 1: I'm grateful, grateful to have both of you on. This is, uh, this is the first time I've had two guests on in a while. Um, kind of excited. Keep it round Robin style. Yeah. Yeah. So Jake, um, and Richard, you run u USA Medical and you have quite the following on, uh, TikTok and Instagram.

Why don't you tell us a little bit about how you got started?

jake: Sure. So I actually met Richard, um, what was it, about 10 years ago at this point. Um, we met at Hollister. We were both Hollister Register employees. We

Track 1: Oh yeah.

jake: together and, uh, we went off our separate ways in college. We stayed in touch, but kind of did our separate thing. He was an English major. I was a digital media major, so I was in. Television and I was in, you know, marketing and advertising and that kind of stuff. And, uh, I ended [00:05:00] up working for some big corporations for a couple, couple years outside of college. And then what ha ended up happening was at kind of the beginning of the Covid era. Um, My job with, uh, I was with Fox Sports at the time. It became different and very stressful. And, um, you know, I wasn't, we talked before that we don't have a lot of vices. I don't, I didn't really drink a whole lot. I didn't really smoke anything. I just kind of went through my day, you know, uh, as Sora as can be.

And I was stressed. You know, I was stressed every day, all day

job. And I ended up meeting. Very randomly a investor who is all in on C B D. He had, he had anxiety, he had paranoia, he had tried C, B, D, he loved it and he wanted to invest in C B, D. So he made me try it. I tried it and I was like, wow, this is, there's something here.

You know, it reduced my stress for the first time, at least a little bit, and I really wanted to figure it out. So the long story, uh, short here is we started this company about two years. I reached out to Richard because I [00:06:00] knew he was, uh, he was looking for work and he, and, you know, I actually, he reached out to me at, at one point, um, about working together.

And, um, we got together, I said, let's see what we can do with this. And we just spent the last year kind of figuring out how to, a, make the best supplements possible, the best holistic, you know, herbal supplements and a lot of r and d. Actual lab tests and actual certifications and actually figuring out if things work or don't work, you know,

that don't actually work, you know,

Track 1: can you gimme an example of something where you said this doesn't work and we're not gonna carry it? As far as that?

jake: gosh. Yeah, I mean, well like a great example is like vitamin D. Um, and I think that is a very controversial example for a lot of people

lot of people take vitamin D, um, a lot of over-the-counter Vitamin D is actually D two, um, which is not what your body makes or wants. Your body wants D three and there are some over-the-counter D three supplements. But again, those are synthesized in the lab and those are very different when it comes to how your body handles. Versus actually [00:07:00] making it from, you know, sunlight or ingesting it from, like, food, like eggs, fish. So vitamin D is an example of one that I just won't carry because I, there's not enough research to prove that it actually works.

You know, when you're taking vitamin D internally, um, again, if you have a doctor's note or whatever, I'm not trying to, you know, steer anyone away from there. they're vitamin D. But for what we sell, it's just, you know, things like magnesium. Okay. Our bodies need magnesium, so

sell magnesium.

Okay. C, B, D I have used it. Richard's used it. We've tried it. We know it works. We sell that. You know, um, we talked about some other things like ASHWAGANDA and C B G, which I'm sure we'll get into, but.

Track 1: Yeah.

jake: year's just been figuring out what works, what are actual holistic supplements, what that that actually means, and then how to market that and say, Hey, we're not just trying to sell you a supplement.

We wanna actually be in your corner, figure out who you are, figure out how to actually help you, and then recommend supplements that we think might help, you know, and

Track 1: Okay, so let's start there. Let's talk about what does [00:08:00] holistic supplements mean to you?

jake: Mm. So the word holistic in my opinion, is like everything. It is involving your breath, it's involving your heart, it's involving your digestive system. It's everything. So when I say holistic supplements, we're looking at supplements that don't just do one thing, right? If you take creatine, well, creatine is is for one specific use case.

If you're a bodybuilder and you want to increase the amount of water in your muscles to, you know, Look bigger. That's a use, that's one use case. That's what it's for. It's, it works for that thing, but it's not necessarily holistic. It's not doing other things in your body. Whereas magnesium, right, is used for over 300 different processes in your body. Over 300 enzyme reactions need magnesium. Your cells need it like the. mitochondria in your cell. They need magnesium to create energy. So that's what I kind of mean in the sense of holistic supplements. Things that do more than just one thing. They're gonna benefit your breath, gonna benefit your heart, gonna benefit your body in different ways.[00:09:00] 

Track 1: Okay. Compounding effect, uh, if you will. So let's talk a a little bit about what, with your, with your following, what is the most common question that you find yourself answering over and over and over, whether it be TikTok?

jake: sleep? That's the number one question.

Track 1: Yeah. . And do you, do you fault, um, or say that stress is generally the, the issue with sleep?

Or how do you start with dissecting that?

jake: How do you start with dissecting? That's a good question. Um, it, you know, a lot, a lot of people do suffer from stress and anxiety and that does play a role into sleep health for sure. But, Is so, is so complex. You know, especially today, we have way more lights. We have blue light all over the

more noise, we have more stress and anxiety, we have more caffeine, we have more sugary foods.

You know, it's like all these things do play into sleep health. So what I tell everybody to start [00:10:00] with is you need a. Your bodies need routines. Our bodies love routines, right? The more we can be on a routine, the more happy our body is. So the first thing you gotta do is just decide an hour window that you're gonna go to bed every night.

That that is so important for your sleep health, you know, and it can be any, I don't care, right? If you are a night owl and you say between two and 3:00 AM okay, fine. You say nine and 10:00 PM Okay. Keep it the same every day, and that is gonna be instrumental in actually getting your body on a routine and that habit

Track 1: right? Mm-hmm.

jake: But we can talk about sleep for hours if you want.

richard_: Oh yeah,

Track 1: Um, I, I love, I love talking about sleep. I think it is, um, in terms of staying healthy, I think it is one of the most underrated, uh, Tools to have in your arsenal because it is, it is incredibly diffi difficult, uh, to train consistently and have a good demeanor in life if you are suffering from bad sleep.

As, uh, one of my statements on this podcast is it's hard to feel joy [00:11:00] if you haven't slept in two days.

jake: Mm-hmm. I totally agree with that. And also like when it comes to sleep health, like you know, if you, even if you sleep well, even if you get a good night's sleep, but you know you didn't actually recover, you didn't get the right amount of deep

sleep, you can feel it, right?

Track 1: that's right.

jake: and your're groggy and same thing, you're just not happy.

So there's so much complexity to sleep health and you know, we talked a little bit. Magnesium for sleep health, and I'd love to get into that a little bit later. But you know, things that can help relax your body and keep you asleep. You said you sleep for five hours and then you wake up. That's a,

Track 1: five would be great. It's more like four, three and a half or four. Yeah.

jake: It's so common we hear that over and over again, but there's so many things that influence that.

Track 1: Yeah. There is. And look, I've, I've, I'm at like six months with my ordering here, and I will say if you have, um, there, there's a, there's an old statement that anything after your first drink, you're borrowing tomorrow's happiness for today. And I will tell you, if you wear an order ring, it [00:12:00] becomes very, very obvious the.

jake: Mm-hmm.

Track 1: as you get older, um, the days that you have more than one drink, the impact that it has on your sleep becomes very obvious. Uh, it's, the data's right there, whether it's, and the same goes for like eating a big meal right before you go to bed.

jake: You're a

right.

Track 1: It just doesn't sit well. Um, the consequences, by the way, for it is, it's so impressive that you two gentlemen, uh, who are way ahead of your time in terms of, uh, what you're researching, what you're accomplishing, because I abused my body big time too.

For my career, for growth, what I thought were the right reasons. Um, and I definitely burnt the, the candle at both ends for many years, but the consequences now have become so much more obvious to me when I don't have a good night's sleep. Uh, and you talk about having that, uh, designated hour, for example.

I re, dude, I remember in my twenties I didn't, as long as I got near a bed, it just was, boom. I was fine. I, you know, it was just a [00:13:00] question of if I could get enough time in there.

I have to have a, a transition time to get ready for bed, get my mind to slow down. No more social media, whatever.

jake: You know, I think for me a lot of like not being able to fall asleep at night is just thinking about my business or thinking about social

or thinking about TOS or whatever. You know, it's like getting in that mindset of, you know, when I say have an hour, you go to bed. The reason I make it an hour is because there should

time to like really wind down. know, really put your phone down, really stop thinking about the day. My boss calls it, um, quiet mind hour.

Track 1: Mm-hmm.

jake: mind to be completely quiet for that hour. And there's a lot of truth to that. You know, turning your mind off before bed is so powerful.

Track 1: It's really, um, it's really impressive. Uh, I've, I've, I was one of the early Tim Ferris fans when he first had that first book and his message on social media. Is very stark from what you see from a lot of [00:14:00] other people, which is, he does not have any social media apps on his phone. Um, he refuses to put an email client on there.

It has, he has to go through a browser to check his email. And it's interesting to see how someone who is so powerful of an influencer has said, look, I'm not more powerful than the desire to just click, click, click, click, click. So it, it inspires. as someone who struggles with it and says, what is the right amount about?

And, and, and I'm a parent by the way, so I'm constantly telling my kids, Hey, while we're together, I expect you to put that phone away and I have to practice what I preach. I have to put my phone away as well. So it's, it's inspiring to see, uh, even influencers say, there's only so much control we have over this, and then we have to back off.

jake: Yeah. A hundred percent.

richard_: about it too much, you're, you're, you're burning the candle at both ends almost. You know, like as much as, as Jake kind of like when the business operates a lot through social media,

Track 1: [00:15:00] Yeah.

richard_: that, that kind of mindset of like, okay, well, like, you know, I've seen Jake do it, especially if we're hanging out and stuff.

Like, he, he's like putting his phone down for the day and like, it's like, all right, like this is you. I, I, this is too much now, right? Like I gotta, we'll pick up tomorrow cuz

jake: there's a balance between like responding to comments and being helpful and like actually being involved in those videos and, and people have all kinds of questions, right? So there's a balance between responding to comments and then being obsessed with the comments, you know, cuz I can get obsessed with them, you know, I get. get a thousand comments in a day, I'd love, you know, I wanna read them all. I do, I want to see what people are saying to me. But it's like, no, I can't, I can't spend five hours reading comments. I have to just put the phone down and, you know, be, be my own person, you know?

Track 1: Right. Okay. So do you have some rules in place for how you delineate those, those two parts of your, the dichotomy of the business you, the personal you?

jake: I've actually, um, integrated a lot more [00:16:00] recently. I a y two years ago, I thought it was more beneficial for the company if I really separated it and it was like, okay, I have business Jake hours and I have personal Jake hours,

really kept those things separate, whereas now, It's, it's almost better for me if I'm like available at all times, but I only spend, you know, the amount of energy that I feel is required at any given time.

So what I mean by that is like if I want to go to the gym at 2:00 PM. I'm just gonna walk away from my computer and go to the gym. I'm not gonna, like, I, I don't have any problem with that. But when I, when I'm walking to the gym, I might be texting, you know, with clients or I might be having calls or might be on TikTok or whatever.

So it's like I just try to go about my day and live my day normally now, and my business has kind of become just part of the day, you know, I am responding to comments or being online just at the times that it feels appropriate.

Track 1: But, but my question is, when do you say, I can't, I can't check on this anymore. When is, how do you [00:17:00] delineate when it's time to shut it off or whatever? Do you go by your, the time of day or,

jake: Yeah, I mean, I, I guess I, I, I, I really am like pretty active all day at different times. I mean, that, that hour before bed I think is really when my phone goes away and, and I'm not looking at anything at that

Track 1: mm-hmm.

jake: much from sign up to sun down, I, I will probably see. Comments and see texts and stuff.

Just because, like, again, it's better for me to be involved with the

Track 1: Yeah, you're in growth mode. You and Richard are, are growing, growing, growing. Yeah. Yeah.

jake: of people have time to text at night, right? So like, after they get off work, you know, 6:00 PM now they want to text and now they want to comment. So it's like,

want to be available for them at their, you know, their convenient.

So like you said, it is growth mode and you know, at, at this point I have, I don't really have a clock that I'm turning on and off when it comes. being online other than that hour.

Track 1: [00:18:00] Okay. Well, let's pivot a little bit. Um, we, we, uh, we had started our discussion on this, and I wanna, I, I was uninformed. I would love you to inform us a little bit about what C B G Oil is.

jake: Sure. I'll give the really short explanation and then we can get into more details if you would like. But C B G comes from hemp, um, also cannabis, but ours comes from hemp. And in a young hemp plant. [00:19:00] The only cannabinoid that exists, the only cannabis molecule is C B G. As it grows, it becomes C B D. It becomes T hc cbn, every other cannabinoid

Track 1: Okay.

jake: about.

Right? It becomes that. But C B G is that stem cell. It's that mother cannabinoid.

Track 1: right?

jake: So you start with C, B, G. When you extract CBG from young hemp plants, um, your body makes cannabinoids too. They're called endocannabinoids. And um, some of them, you know, one of the famous. Endocannabinoids is called anandamide.

That's the thing that triggers dopamine and serotonin in your brain.

Track 1: Mm-hmm.

jake: all neurotransmitters. They're all things that make your brain do things. So when you ingest a phyto, cannabinoid a cannabinoid from hemp, it's going to mimic what your body already does. Now, C B G is that stem cell cannabinoid.

It's that mother cannabinoid. So C B G does a lot of things in your body that other cannabinoids don't do, just. is the number one, it's the first cannabinoid, [00:20:00] and some of those things are reduce inflammation, reduce pain, help with br, you know, brain fog, that kind of stuff.

Track 1: do you take it at a different time of day than you would C, B, D?

jake: yeah. I tell everyone to take it either in the morning or like early afternoon, kind of when you, if you feel like you have some brain fog or some, you know, your low energy or your

Track 1: Okay.

jake: a good time to take it. Whereas C B, D is much more of that relaxing, sedated evening.

Track 1: Understood. I'm glad you delineated that. So when you kind of, uh, spelled that out for me, there was two things I thought of. One was, uh, the umbilical process where they get the, the stem cells from umbilical, but also like colostrum, right? Where it's the first, uh, milk after they've had a baby that has all these super, super powerful nutrients and whatnot.

So that actually makes a lot more sense. Uh, the way that you were initially, you were telling me it was like the stem cell of cbd and now, now it kind of makes. . So I, I always ask my guest, what are your three go-to supplements? But I'm, [00:21:00] I'm gonna hit you with the curve ball after you answer that question,

jake: can't wait. Sounds good.

our top three, I think, um, are, at least selling wise, our top three sellers are C, B, G,

Track 1: Mm-hmm.

jake: and Ashwaganda. Um, turmerics a close nut number four, but the, all of these supplements are very much revolved around stress and energy and anxiety and

right? All of these things kind of do similar,

Track 1: It's a good, it's a good market to be in.

jake: It's a great market to be in. But like I said, all these things are stuff that we sell because we believe in it. You

take all of these

not just pedaling things.

it definitely is a good market because people need help with it.

Track 1: Okay, so those are your top three selling ones. So here's the curve I was gonna say was what are your three supplements that you don't sell, that you use?

jake: Black Seed Oil is one of our favorites. Um, as far as, uh, immune function

Track 1: Seeds is is from what?

jake: It's from the black human seed.

Track 1: Oh, okay. Yeah. [00:22:00] All right. So what do you and what do you take that sublingually or just put it in, in water?

jake: sublingual. You actually just take it. You just ingest. Actually have some right here in my. Counter. Um, it is, it's an immune modulator. So what it really does is it boosts white blood cell count and it helps your body to fight disease. enough. Um, the prophet Mohamed actually said that the black seed is a cure for every disease except for death. Is

Maybe. But it's interesting enough that it's been talked about since the time of, you

Track 1: Yeah.

jake: and such. It's a very old, um, medication. Um, so I love black seed oil for immune function. Sheila Jet, have you heard of?

Track 1: No, no. This is a good learning call. Yeah.

jake: we go. Um, Sheila comes from the Himalayas. Um, it's in, it's in the mountains. It's basically a black sludge, um, of hundreds of thousands of years of decomposition. And the idea is a small amount of this Sheila Jet has hundreds of thousands of years worth of fungus and plants and things that have [00:23:00] decomposed. Um, so it's a, you take very, very small quantities of it and very infrequently. I might take it once a month.

Track 1: and what do you notice when you.

jake: Energy. Like it, I just like, uh, it's, it's almost too much. Like when I say I only take a month, a month, once a month, it's, you know, it's all these micronutrients that might not even exist in the world anymore.

We don't even know what these plants are. It's just a

Track 1: So what's your source for that? So you know, you're not getting snake oil or whatever.

jake: a great question. It's very hard to find good Sheila g. Um, nothing on Amazon is worth buying. Um, I have a guy I know in the Himalayas that him, that, hi, he has a family friend who goes up and actually makes this stuff. Um,

Track 1: Oh, wow.

jake: asked them to source it and sell it on my website, but they don't make enough to, to do large sales, so

richard_: a guy.

jake: I got a guy.

Yeah.

Track 1: Yeah.

All right, so that's two. What's your.

jake: Two. Um, and Black seed, Sheila Jet. And let me think what would be a good number three to say. Cause we, we do take different stuff. Um, Richard, do you [00:24:00] have

Track 1: I generally, I generally tell people what is something that you, um, in the last three to six months, you have went to someone else and said, you gotta try this.

jake: Mm-hmm. . Richard, do you have anything you wanna say?

richard_: Man, I would say, um, ashwaganda, but it's Ashwaganda has kind of become popular a couple. Ashwaganda

jake: popular now.

richard_: popular enough. Um, honestly, um,

Track 1: is there a particular form of Ashwaganda or that you, you recommend?

jake: So that's a great question. Um, in general, anything that's like a powder or a capsule is gonna be a better form than a hard pressed tablet or a. Gummy, I know you

Track 1: Yeah. Yeah,

jake: just because the science of it is the more you heat something, the more you process something, the

efficacy it has.

Right. The less efficient it can isn't. So in general, capsules and powder are better. Um, but there's a company, um, That we work with called K S M, um, they're kind of the primo, ashwaganda company, um, in India. [00:25:00] So we work with them and we source with them. So everything that we sell comes from um, kind of the premier Ashwaganda league.

Track 1: Mm-hmm.

jake: but man, I'm really stru struggling with my last answer here. Cause there's, I take, there's so many good supplements.

richard_: um, I would say, uh, apple cider

jake: That's

Track 1: Okay. In the morning or.

richard_: cider vinegar. I take a shot at least once a week. Uh, my mom actually put me onto apple cider vinegar, and when you take it, it, uh, I mean it doesn't taste the best, but um, you just feel kind of this rush of like, like, yeah, like that felt like a good thing to take

Track 1: Yeah.

richard_: for the rest of the day.

I don't know the science, truly a lot of the science behind it,

jake: It just feels good.

richard_: great. Yeah, you.

Track 1: Yeah. And I, it's one of the, there's very little downsides to it. Um, I, I, the way you were describing it, Richard, uh, I do cold showers in the morning and it, it's turned, it's basically turned winter here lately. And that's how I feel when I get out my cold shower. I'm like, okay, I am now,

even if I had a bad night's sleep, when I get out, I go, okay, I am, at least [00:26:00] for the next hour or two, I am invigorated.

richard_: Yeah.

jake: start warm or do you start cold?

Track 1: Mm-hmm. I start cold. Leave it cold. 

jake: I couldn't do it.

Track 1: No, and it's funny, you ask that, Jake, um, I sometimes I'll even outta habit start the shower and stick my hand in to fill the water and I go, why am I filling the water? Of course, it's, it's like, what am I waiting for? Just go.

jake: That's awesome. I am not

I do a, I do a two minute cold shower, but at the end of my like warm shower in the morning, so I did like five minutes warm.

Track 1: okay. Yeah. Well, I have a, a series of things that I do when I get in where I go, okay, now you have to take like 10 slow breaths. And, um, I don't know if that just spreads it out to the point. , it becomes to where I go through the routine of breathing and whatnot, that I get used to it by the time I hit two or three minutes and, and I just kind of move on.

I will tell you, you guys are gonna see my head is shaved. Uh, cold water on your head is by far the most shocking part of the body when that [00:27:00] cold water hits. It's like my, my head and ears. So like, okay. And uh, I actually heard on Huberman, you can't get. To going into cold water, like you will always, no matter how long you've been going into cold water, you'll always have that effect for you.

jake: Mm.

Track 1: that they say

richard_: to that, uh, for sure. Cause I swam for years and years and years I swam competitively and, um, I don't care how many times I jumped into that

cold

jake: every time.

Track 1: I was, I was a, I was a triathlete for, for several years there, Richard. And I can tell you, um, whether actually when I was a trail runner, I was just telling someone yesterday about this, uh, I was the guy who on the really cold mornings would just put on gloves. Because my rule was once I get outta the car, if all I got on is my gloves, I gotta run fast or I gotta get back in the car.

There really, there really isn't a choice.

jake: Mm.

Track 1: um, now if I. Uh, fast runner, that would be a problem because you have to get hot enough to sort of [00:28:00] offset the cold. But I was, I was fast enough to make up for it at the time, so. Well, this is great feedback, guys. I appreciate you sharing your insights on the supplements.

Uh, very, very down to earth. One that I've heard, um, surprisingly commonly, ladies or, uh, lately is, uh, organ meats, uh, the powdered, uh, freeze dry order organ meats. Um, I have just started on that. I have no feedback yet, so,

jake: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Have you seen, um, like what's his, what's his name?

Liver King. Liver King. Have you seen that guy?

Track 1: I have heard of the Liver King. I wasn't sure if that was just like a catchy name or what.

richard_: No,

jake: I think, I think he's really doing it.

richard_: Yeah. I get the concept behind, um, right. The idea that he kind of pushes is that, um, if you're eating. of organs of, of bigger animals like an ox or, or something

Track 1: Yeah.

richard_: Um, in some way is adding to your own strength and increasing, [00:29:00] um, the, those that the part of your body that, uh, you're eating is also increasing the health of your body,

jake: Like

heart, it's gonna improve your heart, right? If you eat what?

richard_: And if you eat like an ox heart, it's gonna improve your heart to make you

an

jake: Maybe.

richard_: Yeah, that's what, that's what they're saying. Um, I mean,

it's good

Track 1: it, it sounds like it would give you some, a great number of followers. Um,

richard_: yeah.

Track 1: I'm, look, I'm not anti organ meats. If you can eat a liver more power, and I, by the way, I can swallow some pretty nasty. Health, healthy stuff. I mean, I, I put myself in the upper echelon, but when it comes to sitting down and eating an actual liver,

will tell you, man, I have never finished one and not thought that was just absolutely disgusting.

I mean, I've tried soaking into milk and everything and I was just like, I'll just take the supplement. That was one.

jake: raw or are you cooking it?

Track 1: no, I, I cooked it. I bought like a, I had, I think at the time I had bought a cow and I told him I want the heart. I want actually heart [00:30:00] wasn't that bad. Uh, but, but like the liver and stuff.

Whew, man. Oof that minerally taste, man. Oof.

jake: will just eat raw liver sometimes. I just, I don't know how he does it. I just, I can't, I can't do it

Track 1: Hey, more power to you man. More power to you, . Um, so these are, so, gimme a little bit, um, in terms of. Do you ever steer people, like what type of nutritional protocols do you kind of have? At a high level?

jake: Yeah. Um, so I always tell people that blood work is the most important thing we can do for understanding our bodies. Um, there's no way to have visibility into your health without blood work. Um, and there's a great test that every doctor's office has. Um, it's not covered by most insurances, it's like 300 bucks, but it's called the Nutra Eval Test. And it. single macro and micronutrient in your body, so you get a full panel of just like, you

are my levels?

Track 1: That's good to know. I wish I'd, I'd had my blood, I had my blunt drawn today. I, I should have asked them [00:31:00] that. I, I didn't know to ask them that. I did know. I mean, the, the, they're becoming very popular. They're not particularly cheap. The, uh, the internet versions of, you know,

jake: I think Everly, well is a, is a company online that does a lot of, um, internet testing. I've used them before, but if you don't want to pay any money, you can also see your doctor and say, Hey, I'd like to know specifically my magnesium, specifically my copper, you know, and asks for specific tests and they can absolutely order those tests.

And that's usually covered by insurance. Um, if you don't want the full thing, but

tests and, and then once you get a test, let's say, okay, you get a test, my magnesium is low. start to try to fight that, get another test in five months, six months, right? And see, okay, where am I at?

doing working or not?

Because you know, we, think we like to like think things are going well or think things are

Track 1: Oh, there's a placebo effect. Yeah.

jake: And that, that works to an extent. But we need to actually know, okay, are these things improving my health or not? You know? So blood work is the only way we can.

Track 1: I, I love that [00:32:00] answer, Jake. That is a great answer. Um, so in terms of, tell me some, uh, in the last year, what are some changes you've made to your diet specifically?

jake: Yeah, man. I mean, I have put a huge focus on just cutting out fried foods, cuz I mean, that's my, it's we, we, we love fried foods. I mean, at least I

especially, I grew up in Erie, Pennsylvania with Richard, you know, and we're a bar town man. We're drinking. Beers needing wings,

Track 1: Yeah.

jake: know what I mean?

So it's like getting rid of fried food is like, wait, that's everything I like to eat. You know,

Track 1: I, I, I will tell you I'm on the other side of that. I don't ever eat fried food. And what is, what is great about it is, um, Uh, it becomes harder and harder to tolerate it the longer you've been away from it. So if you were to lapse after, say, six months and go in it, you're gonna feel it when you eat, when you eat those type of foods.

What about you, Richard?

richard_: Yeah, I think, um, my biggest thing, uh, within the past year is probably just, um, being, eating more like organic, [00:33:00] uh, grass-fed, um, meats, things like that, staying away from processed. Uh, and that's really hard to do.

Track 1: Mm-hmm.

richard_: just trying to incorporate more like. Uh, farm Fresh eggs is like,

every day.

I make

know, they, uh, they're farm fresh, like they haven't gone through any kind of

Track 1: Yeah.

richard_: Um, same with meat, same with, uh, and when I go out and eat, I try and, uh, just order a little bit healthier. Um, obviously coming out of, you know, like, like I, like Jake said, Erie, Pennsylvania is a huge like bar in beer town, right?

So you're just eating junk. All the time.

jake: It's really crazy to me. Mm-hmm.

richard_: I try not to snack anymore.

jake: I go home to, to visit, if I see Richard or I go home to visit family, you know, I eat out a lot. Uh, I live in Los Angeles, but a lot of what I eat is I go to like, you know, a, a Thai restaurant and I get

Track 1: I was gonna say it's, it's not hard to eat clean in Los Angeles.

jake: it's very

Track 1: I would tell you is it's hard to eat a lot of [00:34:00] food in Los Angeles cuz the portions are super small.

jake: Yeah, but in general, pretty clean. And I, I don't even recognize that, right? I'm just eating. It's fine. It's fine. I go home, we go to a restaurant in Erie and I feel sick that night. It's like, wait a second. I ordered the same thing.

happened? Well,

oils and it was not farm, or it was farm raised and it's all this crap, right?

So, Yeah, I mean the changing your, your habits from being just like what I want to eat versus like what is correct for me to eat that is like, that's been the hardest thing, I think for both me and Richard.

Track 1: you know, you, you two kind of hit on something that I really struggle with, which is, uh, telling people that, um, if you are going to change, um, your persona of. in terms of health, like you want to get to the next level, whether you're morbidly obese or you're, you're sort of outta shape or whatever. You have to start by redefining who you are and who you hang out with and where you meet, because it it, it becomes this [00:35:00] thing where you're like, well, the only time I meet, we meet with the guys and we play, you know, trivia.

We're always eating wings and deer. You've got to redefine how is that gonna work with your new lifestyle. Your partner at home may say, no, we. Pizza every two nights a week. You've got, you've got to start at those points where you go, okay, I know that, that, that, that has been me historically, the guy in Pennsylvania who goes to the pubs because that's what we do.

But now I have to define who Jake is tomorrow, and this can't be part of that. Or maybe it's the exception when you're visiting home or whatever. I try, I try not to deal with extremes here,

jake: Mm-hmm.

Track 1: it, it, it is a difficult thing, man, especially for people that have known you a long time and you go, yeah, I don't eat that anymore.

Um, or I don't enjoy.

jake: Yeah. My, uh, my two friends here in LA will give me the most crap for not eating Chick-fil-A anymore. I don't want Chick-fil-A anymore. I'm done with it. It's fried. It's not good for me. I'm done eating. Know, but they, they give me the most like, come on man. It's Chick-fil-A. It's God's chicken.

We're not gonna go eat some God's chick. I'm like, you can't You can't do that to me. We're done with that[00:36:00] 

Track 1: Well, they got grilled options. Uh, they got some good salads there too. But, um, in terms of fast food, it's probably about as good as you get. But in LA they have a lot better options, uh, that you can get in and get out and get some great wholesome foods. Um,

richard_: Oh

Track 1: you're in the airports. Um, I had a, I had a call with, uh, someone the other day who was traveling and, uh, on the podcast and they've said, that's my time to fast.

They're like, when I'm going through airports, that's when I fast.

jake: Yeah.

Track 1: Um,

jake: are tough, man. Brutal.

Track 1: man. So tell me a little bit about, uh, what about any training that you do fitness wise. Can you tell me a little bit about what it your routines look like?

jake: I am, I'm such a big fan of yoga. Um, I was a, I was an actual bodybuilder when I was in college, um, trying to do shows, um, for just. Local region and I was like the least healthy ever. Right? I was just eating disgusting

on weight constantly. I wasn't even working out well. I'm just throwing weight around and trying to, you know, do more and more weight.

Track 1: [00:37:00] Right.

jake: myself really bad. I, uh, I ended up. Well, from working out, I injured my shoulder and my, um, my subscap really bad. Um, and then I actually also broke my hand skiing around the same time. So I was just a mess and I had to stop body building all together. And, uh, to get back into working out, kind of a year later I did yoga.

I was like, let's just see what this thing is just to stretch and move or whatever. And I ended. Like building the most muscle and losing the most weight and like looking the best just from doing yoga. And I was like, what is, what is all this? And it's because of just how much muscle activation there is

Track 1: Yeah. I'm assuming you mean like power yoga and stuff like that?

Yeah, because there's a lot of different forms and whatnot. Um, it doesn't surprise me at all when you bring up the bodybuilding things, because I think, um, when people see the influencers on Instagram and whatnot who are really just trying to, to peek out, um, uh, the, you, you, you might get these questions, uh oh, you know, are you 3% [00:38:00] body fat?

And I have to explain. I was like, do you understand? what 3% body fat is like to walk around with that level of it's, it's, you're exhausted. Your body, your brain is in a mess, your body's in a mess. You're not supposed to hold that.

jake: No.

Track 1: there's, when these celebrities have a shirtless scene, they have to plan that shirtless scene out a month ahead of time.

And then when they shoot it, they have to just basically sit in their trailer the rest of the day and start eating and drinking again to get basically Hydra. So there's so much that people. Or influence these days. I know this is a common discussion among women, but of, you know, what, what people see and what's expected, but when, when it comes to the shirtless men, you don't hear a lot of, it actually takes a whole month of like starvation and

all this to hit that one, two, or two or three day window where they have to get those scene shots sequentially.

jake: even then you need so much lighting and so many angles

Like I can take a great looking picture in the gym with the lights and thet [00:39:00] and you know, it's all, and I have the, the pump, but once I get home, the same picture in the mirror is like, wait a second, where, where'd all my muscles go?

You know, it's like the lighting and the angles are so much, so much involved, you know, as well. So it's like measuring yourself up to social media or to any kind of movie is just.

Track 1: It's so funny how your own perception of yourself changes because when I, I will agree. When I'm in the gym or when I'm lifting and you see yourself in the mirror, you go, oh, that's a pretty fit dude there. And then if I eat a large meal the next day, I'll be like, dude, I. , I feel like I'm fat. I feel like I've put on 15 pounds since y and that was me this morning in the gym.

jake: Mm-hmm.

Track 1: it's just so much of your brain, uh, is involved in that image of your perception of how, how well you're doing, and that's the internal shame mechanisms are hard to turn off

jake: a hundred percent.

Track 1: All right, so tell me a little bit about your morning routine.

jake: Sure. When I wake up in the morning, I go for a walk right now. Um, that's just kind of been my up and out

Track 1: Mm.

jake: I [00:40:00] always hate it. I always hate trying to get myself out of bed and trying to get onto the walk and start moving, but once I am walking, I feel great. Um, I f for me, there's just been nothing else that I, that is kind of a workout that I am able to do consistently in the morning.

I don't feel like working out in the morning. So the walk has always been the way to kind of just get me.

Track 1: I, I can, I, I can sympathize with that, Jake. Uh, so you said you set an alarm or, or you have an hour window where you, you go to bed. Do you, are you pretty consistent about when you get up?

jake: Yeah, I mean, I typically will just kind of wake up naturally around eight ish am.

of when I wake, my, my alarm is always set for 8, 8 30. Um, but I'm usually up before then. And, uh, if I'm not up by eight 30, it's gonna be a groggy day, , you know,

to the alarm, um, it's gonna be a groggy day.

But yeah, most days I'm in bed between like 11 and midnight and I'm up by.

Track 1: Yeah. And that walk, it's a multifaceted benefit because, um, there's a lot of science now that, uh, 10 to 15 minutes of sun exposure [00:41:00] early in the day, set your melatonin for the day. It set your energy levels. Um, and in LA there's no shortage. Right now here in the south, in Tennessee, uh, the sun does not even, you really can't get sun till like almost nine o'clock, and then it's down by six.

jake: It's

Track 1: you gotta, you gotta get it in while you can.

jake: Yeah, AB, but what you just said is so important. The sun exposure.

Track 1: Yeah.

jake: so afraid of the sun, right? Like, I, I, I have hundreds of thousands of people who have talked, you know, who've been in my comments and stuff who have said that they're, you know, the sun's bad for you.

sun.

Use sunscreen use. It's like, no, get outside for 10, 20 minutes.

richard_: Yeah.

jake: sunlight, improve, like

Track 1: dose is the poison man. The dose is the poison. I mean, there's, uh, more people die of, uh, over rehydrating than, than dehydration. I mean, it's called hyponatremia. But the point, the point of that is even wa even with water, which is essential, the dose is the poison. So get out there and start, you know, we're not telling you to get sunburnt, but get some sun exposure.

It.

jake: sunlight.[00:42:00] 

Track 1: also know how notice start taking stock of how you feel when you've been indoors all day. And if you're anything like me, I f I feel like I've lost my sense of when bedtime is or isn't. Um, and, and I'm rarely am I a joyful person if I haven't been outside for a day. I mean, I, I can think of one or two job roles where I worked in a basement and I told them after a month, I was like, you gotta transfer me outta here.

This is crazy.

richard_: Oh yeah. Especially when you're sick. That's one of the biggest things. If you're, if you're feeling a little under the weather, get outside once

like, it's so easy to just want to stay in bed all day if you're feeling poor, you know? But, uh, to get outside, to breathe fresh air, to get sunlight when you're not feeling well is so, so, so important.

Um, and I tell that to everybody all the

jake: Mm.

Track 1: So it's funny you say that, Richard. Um, we were talking about coffee, I think prior to the podcast. And my rule, if I feel like I need a cup of coffee after I've had my two for the day is, well, you can have it, but you have to go outside and walk for 20 minutes first. And I, I have, [00:43:00] I have never come back to my office and said, I still need that cup of c I mean, if I have, it's rare, but, uh, just movement.

It, it, it gets me out of the fog. Um, it's kind of like how one. Vices is, if I'm really bored, I'll start looking through my cupboards and I'll be like, I need something. And I'll be like, you're not hungry, you're just bored. Gimme a break here. So you ha you, uh, one of the things I wanted to cover before we ended was you said you had a product that was coming to your market that you wanted to talk about, uh, regarding, uh, for people with anxiety and O C D.

jake: Yeah. There's a, a product called Inositol. Um, it's actually a brain sugar. So you're, it's a, it's a sugar alk load in your brain. Um, and taking more of Inositol is going to improve your neurological function, right? Your, those neuro pathways. I see that you've probably heard of it.

Track 1: I do. And I actually do take this. Yeah. And, and yeah. And, um, what I will say is if you mix that, um, in some water with, um, it's not a substitute for [00:44:00] Gly Glyconate, but some of the other magnesiums, man, it tastes like a sweet lemonade. Uh, if you, if you mix those two together, but by, by all means. I'm sorry.

Keep, keep going.

jake: No, that, that's great. Um, yeah, it's just what we know about Inositol right now, and there's two types. There's Myo, inositol, and Dro. Inositol and our, we're gonna have both in that capsule. What it does is it just helps improve your. Your neural pathways, your,

communicates, and why is that good?

Well, if you have an addictive behavior, any kind of addictive behavior, whether it's O C D, whether it's actual addiction, whether it's depressing anxiety, these are just, they're repeat pathways. It's how your brain goes around and around in circles. So to get more of that, Brain sugar in and to try to break up those, you know, the default mode, the default mode network in your brain to break that up, that's gonna help just get you out of those addictive behaviors and habits.

So it's not a cure all. I'm not, you can't just take it and hope that you're gonna be cured of all addiction,

Track 1: Nothing is. [00:45:00] Yeah.

jake: using it as a, as a, you know, an aid when it comes to trying to get out of a type of addictive behavior, it's very be.

Track 1: I, I was gonna correct you and say, well, I hear black seed oils cure all, but that, that has yet to be, that has yet to be proven. No, I, and I'm glad, I'm glad you shared that. Uh, it does have some good science behind it, and, uh, I have, I have heard that they're leveraging it in some of the P T S D type type situations.

It has been such a pleasure to connect with both of you.

I'm super grateful to help share your message. Is there, is there anything else you'd like to share with the audience?

jake: you a question really quick? Daniel?

Track 1: Oh, fire away, man. Yeah.

jake: teeth. What are your, what's your, what's your dental hygiene routine? I'm so curious.

Track 1: Oh my gosh. I don't think I've ever heard that before. Um, I'll tell you what's probably the biggest thing. Um, I stopped eating sugar about a year or two ago,

jake: Huge. Yeah.

Track 1: and it was, um, it's funny because. . I've always had terrible teeth. I've always been in and out. I've [00:46:00] had more root canals than I care to share. Um, but uh, what I, what I noticed was that, um, kind like you were talking about the fried foods, um, it wasn't like I just suddenly got up one day and said, I don't wanna eat sugar anymore.

It became more and more of, I just started kinda like with people. Keep themself in check on drinking or something. They start taking a a bar and going, okay, I feel like crap the next day, which makes it hard to work out, which maybe well with sugar, what I started noticing was, By the way, I was an ultra runner so we could have, we had an open book on carbs cuz you're, you're running, you're running and you're just burning through so many calories that it's, it's kind of natural for you to start reaching for sweet stuff after a while cuz you need to hit that, that carb count.

And what I noticed was the consequences the next.

jake: Mm-hmm.

Track 1: and the next day was I would crave sugar at the same time. And then there was this crash, and then I was, I was like, man, this is just not worth it anymore. So, um, [00:47:00] as far as my routine, yeah. Yeah. I, I, I don't have anything else to share with you. No insights.

Other than that. I appreciate you, Sandy.

jake: that's the advice. Cut out sugar. Great. we can do that.

Track 1: It's made such a difference in my life, man. Uh, I, and kind of like we were talking about the fried foods. Uh, I've gotten to the point like my, I'll get my son an ice cream or something and I'll have a little bite of it and I'll be like, oh my gosh, I forgot how sweet this stuff is. Like, it hurt. Like as soon as it hits you, your brain starts firing in, in high mode.

It's, if you ever want to see, um, a like what it feels like to hit a drug for the first time, pull up like YouTube videos of kids having their first bite of, I. and they just, they take a step back and they go, oh my gosh. And then they stick their hand in it if they've never had it, because it is just, that's how sugar hits you.

It is such an addicting thing.

jake: There's

a video I shared in our Facebook group of a, like a two year old having her first sip of Coke. And you can literally [00:48:00] see like her brain overloading,

Track 1: Yeah.

jake: goes back and she's like completely, you know, out of her mind for a second. And then what does she do? She goes right back for that next sip immediately.

Track 1: It's addicting, man. It is super addicting, especially when it's got all the, uh, the caffeine and the, and the, the burn in there. Oh, it's,

it's, they've, they've concocted a wonderful thing to

jake: A very addictive

Track 1: very addictive thing, and it costs like less than a penny to make.

jake: how about.

Track 1: right. So Jake and Richard, anything else I can help you share today?

jake: Well, we would just love to connect with, uh, people in our Facebook group.

Track 1: Mm-hmm.

jake: it's private for, for anybody that believes in holistic health. Um, you know, that's where we just talk. We talk about information. We share our blogs, we share our podcast there. Anyone that we've done a podcast with, they can come in and share their clips there.

So we'd love to have you there and share some

Track 1: Of course, man. Happy to do it. Happy to do it.

jake: to connect. So come on over to the USA Medical family on Facebook and we'll, we'll see.

Track 1: U s USA medical family. And then I, um, I'm gonna put, what's your TikTok [00:49:00] account?

jake: just USA Medical.

Track 1: U S USA Medical.

And then your Instagram, is that the same?

jake: USA. Medical Family. Again,

Track 1: Okay. Oh,

jake: or USA Medical Family everywhere. Depending on if we got the user username or not.

Track 1: oh, wonderful ma'am. Well, I appreciate you sharing the message and keep in touch and, um, uh, I will, I will give some feedback on the podcast, hopefully by the time this airs of the, the products that I've gotten from you.

jake: Yeah, we'll get those over to you here

richard_: And if you want to send me your, uh, just your information,

jake: for sure.

richard_: and we'll get you set up with some ashwaganda and a, and a sleep pack

for sure. 

jake: that good stuff.

Track 1: Hi. Before we, we, uh, conclude Ashwaganda, um, how did that sort of find its way into the, like, do you consider that more of a sleep aid or stress aid? Um, what, what is your sort of like niche for that?

jake: So it's, it's a, it's a ancient, ancient drug. I mean, it's been used in Avadia, which is the oldest [00:50:00] medical system in the world for thousands of years.

Eastern Medicine has used it for a long time. What they describe it as, if you were to talk to one of the Avadia doctors, they describe it as a hormone balancer.

So above all else, it's gonna take. Whatever hormones you have and help your body to either make more or less of them. Right? It's gonna help your body clarify. So if you don't make enough melatonin, help your body to make more. If you make too much cortisol and you're stressed, it'll help you make less. So it's really more about hormones, your thyroid in your pituitary gland

Track 1: So it's some type of regulator, enabler,

jake: I'm.

Track 1: so it's some type of regulator, enabler.

jake: Yeah. And there's all kinds of, you know, research as to that it does this, but how it does this, well, you know, we're still trying to figure that out.

Track 1: Okay. Well, wonderful man. Well, I appreciate your message guys. Keep in touch and we will have the notes for everyone to connect, uh, in the show notes.

jake: Thank you so much, Daniel. I appreciate your

Track 1: Thank you, Richard. Thank 

richard_: you, Yeah.