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Stop Being afraid of Your Partner Being Persuaded to Leave You

Dr. Donna Season 1 Episode 77

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Someone in their ear. A jealous friend. A protective family member. A random post on social media that makes you question everything. If you’ve ever felt that tight, panicky fear that someone could be persuaded to leave you, we’re going straight into it with compassion and zero sugarcoating.

I talk about what that fear is really trying to protect: the belief that you have to manage influence to keep love. We break down why that strategy creates an illusion of safety, why certainty in relationships is limited, and why secure connection cannot be built on constant reassurance, perfect behavior, or “saying the right thing.” Love is a daily choice, not a performance.

Then we go deeper into where this pattern comes from: childhood trauma, emotional inconsistency, abandonment wounds, divorce, grief, and the way your nervous system learns to treat connection as unstable. I also unpack how modern texting culture can trigger old fear and make normal silence feel catastrophic, and how to tell the difference between intuition and a trauma response.

The most liberating truth is this: healthy adults are not easily persuaded out of meaningful connection. If someone can be talked out of you, alignment was already shaky, and that’s information you can use to protect your peace. If this hits home, subscribe, share the episode with someone who needs it, and leave a review telling me what you’re ready to stop carrying.

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Welcome And The Hidden Fear

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Hello, it's Dr. Donna, and welcome to another episode of my podcast, Soul Talk and Psychic Advice. Today we're talking about something that quietly runs in the background for so many sensitive, loving, attachment-oriented people. And that is the fear that someone in your life will be persuaded to leave you, persuaded to not want you, persuaded by friends, persuaded by family, persuaded by social media, and persuaded by someone being better. And you know, sometimes this comes up in readings are like, Well, you know, are their friends gonna tell them not to be with me? Is this person gonna say not to be with me? And you know, sometimes I I say to the person, you know, if this person could easily leave you because somebody told them to, they're not for you. Think about it. Okay, you're building something with someone, it's it's going good. And someone says you shouldn't be with that person, and people do that, right? And often they do it out of control or jealousy, they try to break you up if you're having a happy relationship. But if that person could be easily persuaded, good Lord, there's stuff going on, and this is not your person. They they can't be your person because they're not connecting with you, they're more concerned about outside interference. And you know, yet it is a common concern that people have. But and we're gonna talk about this. Underneath that fear is something even deeper, and that's what if I'm not enough to hold someone's loyalty? That's really what it's about, right? And there's always that fear of you're gonna lose the person. Somebody's gonna tell them not to be with me, you know, their family, their friends. And that stress is strong for some people. They really freak out over it. They really worry, and I try to ground people and say, uh-uh, you know, and I ask them, Are there any signs? No, but it's still a fear. So we're gonna talk about this in this episode. We're gonna talk about releasing the exhausting belief that you must constantly manage influence, yours or someone else's, in order to keep someone. And you can't keep anyone anyway, right? If they want to stay, they will stay. If they want to go, they're gonna go no matter what you do. You can't stop that. Nothing's gonna change that. I know for women they think that we can because we were groomed to believe that. We were groomed to be social it's a social construct, right? To believe that you gotta keep a man and you have to fight to keep him, whether you gotta lose weight, get pretty, or get surgery, do whatever, right? Cook more, cook better, you know, be better sexually. It's a pressure that is still within women, right? It's a social construct that still exists. But think about this if someone can be persuaded away from you, they were already leaning towards leaving, right? And that's not rejection, that's information. Because if somebody can be influenced by someone saying, Leave that person, they're just looking for signs to do it. They're looking for permission to leave, and so nobody can make anybody do anything, and I think we all know that deep down inside that you can't. And so, you know, you can't make anybody make a decision that they don't want to make already. And so really sit with that, and that is important to understand. Now let's talk about the control illusion. When we worry about something being influenced, what we're really trying to do is control outcomes. Yes, we want reassurance, right? That comfort of reassurance, certainty, which certainty doesn't exist, it just doesn't. Security, feel safe in a connection and permanence, right? People want to know that they got it right, but if you think about it, very few relationships will last the length of someone's lifespan. It's rare, but it is the goal, right? To get that one partner. But remember it starts with choice. You have to choose each other daily. You choose to be in love, you choose to be there for each other, you choose to show up. It's a choice. Love does not float, you know, and make everything work. Love has to be there, but you have to choose it daily, and that's something that you hear from long-term couples. We choose each other daily, and that is important to understand. But here's the hard truth. You cannot control someone else's perception of you. You cannot. You cannot control who they listen to. No, you can't. You cannot control how they interpret situations, nope. And you cannot control who gets in their ear. No, and you cannot control their emotional maturity. Trying to control influence is an anxiety strategy. It gives an illusion of safety if I say the right thing. There's no such thing as saying the right thing for someone to someone who wants to leave. If I show up perfectly. How do you do that? What is perfect, right? If I don't upset anyone. You know, that's definitely a trauma response because we learned that as kids. Don't upset your caretakers, don't upset anyone. You know? And if I defend myself well enough It's sad, but a lot of people believe this. Then they say but then they stay, right? If you do all this, they're gonna stay. That's what you're hoping. But relationships built on influence management are fragile. Secure connection does not require constant persuasion. That's the difference. If you have to convince someone to stay, they're not gonna stay. Eventually they will go. They might stay a little bit out of guilt, but they will go eventually. So let's talk about where this fear comes from. Okay, this fear often comes from early relational instability, right? If you grew up with emotional inconsistency, abandonment. A lot of people have abandonment issues, divorce. If you experience divorce, you know, in just that pain of the breakup, a parent who changed loyalties, a caregiver who could be swayed, right? Easily manipulated, or even sibling favoritism and for people who play favorites with their kids, stop that, really. That's nuts. That's unhealthy, and that is trauma. And I know that you know, there are parents out there with their own boons, they grew up with that and they're passing that on, but hopefully with social media we're talking about these things more, that we will stop this stuff. You can't have a favorite kid and a kid you don't like, you just can't, you know, and that creates a lot of problems into adulthood for those children. On both ends. And so your nervous system learned that love is unstable. You may have internalized I must compete, I must perform, I must secure my place, I must stay ahead of threats, right? This can show up in adulthood as anxiety about friends, fear of ex-partners, you know, obsessing over who they talk to, wanting to control who they talk to. And you hear stories from you know, both men and women doing this saying my partner can't have any friends because they don't want the friends to influence anything, right? My partner can't talk to someone of the opposite sex, my partner can't stay out late, you know, it's like you start controlling all these dynamics out of fear, you know, and you know, it just also shows up as overexplaining yourself. I used to overexplain myself now, so like I give a one-word or one-sentence answer now, and I'm like, that just has to work. You know, we get better over time, and trying to correct the narrative, you can't, and monitoring tone shifts, you can't. And this isn't jealousy. None of that's jealousy when people say, I don't want my partner having friends or someone of the opposite sex. That isn't really jealousy, it may look like it, but it's abandonment fear is what it really is. You're trying to reduce all chances of being left, and it's often rooted in unhealed grief. Childhood trauma is unhealed grief if you haven't healed it. It's grief. You know, there's all forms of grief, not just someone dying. And then if you had a parent die at a young age, yes, it's going to trigger abandonment issues, yeah, you know, and so we really have to look at our childhood and how it affects our adulthood, because adulthood is a continuation of childhood. So let's talk about how influence is not the real issue. Let's reframe something. Healthy adults are not easily persuaded out of meaningful connection, right? Let me say that one more time. Healthy adults are not easily persuaded out of meaningful connection. If someone can be talked out of loving you, they were already unsure. Influence only works when doubt already exists. That doesn't mean you are unworthy. It doesn't mean that at all. It means alignment wasn't stable. You don't lose someone because of influence. You lose someone because of compatibility, maturity, or internal instability. Yes, when we fear persuasion, what we're really fearing is I am not chosen. That's what it is. But being chosen under pressure is not the same as being chosen freely, right? It's not the same. And so keep that in mind. But yes, if somebody can just walk that easily, my God, they were never there. They've got their own issues, right? Where they may be uh avoidant, they're looking for an excuse to run anyway, and sometimes some people can't stay, they get triggered in relationships because of their unhealed stuff, even when things are good. And so there's many reasons why somebody gets up and leaves, but it's not because so and so told them to leave you. And you know, I've I've had friends who try to well, they're not friends at work, who try to break up relationships that I had, and I knew to get rid of those friends because I asked them, Why would you do that? Why would you want to do that? And and often when someone tries to break someone up, it's because they're jealous that that person's having a good relationship and they don't want to see them happy. Or, you know, if you're in a friend group and you know everyone's single and you start dating, they're like, Oh, you're no longer single like us. So they may try to break you up. Different things happen. Are, you know, there's many dynamics. Sometimes even families get involved because of whatever reason. If that person starts dating someone, they're not going to give attention to the family, or if they're helping the family financially, they won't be giving money there anymore because now they're dating and they're going to be starting their own life in their own family. There's many dynamics, but it's never as simple, you know, as oh, somebody told me to leave and I left. Never like that. So let's talk about the exhaustion of managing perception. Trying to manage how others see you as deeply exhausting. You start over-editing your words, yes, overperforming kindness, over giving reassurance, avoiding conflict, and trying to appear unbothered, and controlling your reactions. And people do that, a lot of people do that in their relationships, trying to get the person to stay. All of that is nervous system dysregulation, it's hypervigilance and relational form. And ironically, that pressure can create the instability you fear. Because authentic intimacy cannot grow in a performance environment. If someone only stays because you are carefully curating yourself, that is not security, that is anxiety disguised as love. Plus, you can't have alignment if you're over-editing yourself or overperforming kindness, you're not being authentic. You don't have to do all these things. You shouldn't have to do all these things in a relationship. And in a relationship, there'd be conflicts as how you manage it. Are you able to talk it out instead of having nasty arguments? But if you're just avoiding conflicts for this person to stay, that's a abandonment response, right? A trauma response. And you can't live that way forever. Eventually, your soul will get tired of it. It just will because it's like, hey, I want to be aligned. So let's talk about if they can be persuaded, let them be. Yes, I'm saying it. This part is strong, but it's liberating. If someone in your life can be persuaded to not want you, let them be persuaded, right? Because what you actually want is someone who cannot be talked out of you. Someone whose loyalty is internally anchored. You don't want to beg someone back because what if you have kids with them or marry them or you know buy a house with them and they can be persuaded that easy, you're going to be left with kids alone, uh house payment alone, um needing to divorce, and so you might as well know up front what you're dealing with. And you want someone who thinks for themselves. That is important, not someone who is easily influenced, and someone who asks you questions directly, someone who doesn't outsource their perception of you. Because when people start talking to their friends and stuff about their partner, they're really looking for a reason to leave. That's often what it is. They're not just venting. And ca and they go to people who they know will probably tell them to leave because they want that rubber stamp, right? That it's okay to go. And you do not want a partner friend or family member whose attachment is fragile. That is not safety. That is walking on eggshells. If someone leaves because of influence, you didn't lose security, you lost illusion, right? And illusions are heavy to maintain. Think about it. And even this happens with friendships, right? And sometimes that will happen where you know someone is persuaded not to talk to you, or you know, a group of friends that were once your friends, they go against you because of one person. You know it, it may hurt, but let them go because these are not your people and they are not stable and they are not kind. Let's talk about grief and the fear of replacement. There's another layer. For those who have experienced deep loss, especially if you've buried someone or been left unexpectedly, the nervous system carries the imprint. Loss teaches the body connection can disappear, right? So when someone pulls back, even lightly, the body reacts to it as a ca as being catastrophic, right? You may think they're changing, they're slipping away, someone is influencing them. Sometimes nothing is happening. It's your body reliving instability. Grief creates hyper-awareness, and part of healing is learning to distinguish is this intuition or the is this old fear? Because yeah, some people will sit there and they're they're like, Well, I didn't hear from the person today yet. And the day's not over. They're like they're like, Are they still interested? Do they still care? Do they still love me? And who knows, they could be busy at work or have an emergency or just tired, but it could turn into something's wrong. And usually it's not that something's wrong. And because of modern technology, we think if we text somebody or call somebody, they're supposed to answer no matter what part of the day is and what part of the day it is, right? They could be at work, they can be doing something, they can be in that mode. I have a time of the day where I do not answer any messages, I don't care if it's an emergency, I will find out later because I just wasn't getting stuff done. And so maybe people are having a moment like that, and you know, when we need somebody to respond right away, it's coming from something deeper. That's really what it is. So let's talk about releasing the need to influence, right, y'all. Let's see. Think about it. Some people try to secure connection by influencing positively, right? So we're gonna release that need. And so influencing in any way, good or bad, is not good, right? You can't influence somebody to stay, somebody to go, none of it. So some people try to secure connection by influencing positively, over-supporting, over-encouraging, being indispensable, being their therapist, being their savior, you know, doing all the little extras in the relationship, right? Giving them no reason to want to go. But that's still influence management. True connection does not require manipulation in either direction. It does not require you to convince, sell, yeah, you selling your worst, selling yourself, convincing them that you're worthy or winning them. Competing, no, it shouldn't cause you to outshine or outsmart everybody else, to say you're number one, you're the best thing that happened, and they should choose you and only you. Relationships are about alignment, and some people we just don't align with, even if we love them. Alignment does not require pressure. If someone needs persuasion to stay, that connection is conditional, and you deserve a voluntary love, a love that voluntarily shows up and wants to be with you. You know, not one where you go, Oh my god, is this safe? Are they gonna go? Am I gonna be okay? None of that. So let's close this out. Stop worrying about who might persuade someone away from you. You're not in a competition, you're not in a courtroom, you're not on trial, you're not in a marketing campaign for your own worth. You are not, you know, someone who has to be desperate to get someone to stay, even if you love them, right? You shouldn't have to fight for it. The right people are not persuadable, they are anchored. If someone leaves because of influence, it reveals their internal instability, not your inadequacy, right? Because you have to be internally instable or unstable, right? To just be influenced so easily. You cannot control who stays. No, you cannot. But you can control whether you abandon yourself trying to secure them. Let people choose you freely, and if they don't, let them go freely. Because love that must be guarded constantly is not peace, and often without guidance, you're not broken.

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Becoming more aware, awareness is a beginning, right? And so think of it that way. You're becoming aware of okay, is this person for me or not for me? And why would I be so concerned? Right? Why should I be so concerned that they could be persuaded? Are they for me? If somebody could just tell them to leave me, because that could happen at any time, even if I if they are planning to leave and I ask them to stay, when is the next time I'm gonna have to fight for them? When is the next time? Yeah. So think about it. You are becoming more aware, and this is your intuition kicking in because you're gonna regulate your nervous system, and so you can see clearly that I don't have to stay somewhere begging someone. I can get someone who wants to be here, who is excited to be with me, grateful to be with me, see me as the best thing, you know, for them as a partner. And that's how you want to look at it. So I want to thank you for listening. Have a great day, and I see you in the next episode.